By devoting his message to the subject of transphobia. So, open your hearts and your minds.
Owen Jones wishes you a Happy Pride
|by Anonymous||reply 98||Last Tuesday at 5:01 PM|
Oh FFS. Can we PLEASE cancel him already. He's an embarrassment.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/27/2020|
I cant imagine how I’ve managed to make my way in life without Owen explaining to me what I should think and how I should behave.
He really has a hilariously inflated sense of his own importance.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/27/2020|
He had his hair styled to make this video. And look at his house.
One of the most privileged individuals on the scene right now.
He's making bank by being a gay man who fashionably screeches the recent orthodoxy of "Gay Lives Don't Matter"
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/27/2020|
Is he made of porridge?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/27/2020|
Isn't that his COVID hair?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/27/2020|
No dear. It's Fashionable London Hair.
The only thing he's failed to do is brush it all forward in an intentionally mussed version of the 'forward comb'.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/27/2020|
He's a very youthful-looking 35.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/27/2020|
Wanna-be Forever Twink. With wrinkles.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/27/2020|
Naturally boyish face; could pass for 26-27
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/27/2020|
That would be a HARD 26-27, r9
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/28/2020|
The most gay man in British journalist, so naturally dykes love attacking him.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/28/2020|
Sorry, r11 - Could you try that again, this time in English?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/28/2020|
Most PROMINENT gay man.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/28/2020|
So THIS is Britain's most "prominent gay man"?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/28/2020|
r14 No that's Graham Norton. Owen Jones is a Twitter personality who writes opinion pieces for Britain's second most popular left wing tabloid (Guardian readers accept your fate) after the Daily Mirror.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/28/2020|
In journalism, yes.
Graham Norton is in media but not journalism.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/28/2020|
I assume all the nasty comments on this thread are and will be from fish.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/28/2020|
PHEW. Well thank GOD for that, r15.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/28/2020|
R16 he's not a journalist, he's an activist.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/28/2020|
He’s in the employ of a newspaper.
Words have meaning, fish.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/28/2020|
r16 The drunk Irishman has definitely given more insightful interviews to politicians than Jones.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/28/2020|
I see the misogynistic troll is awake at r20.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/28/2020|
According to r20's definition, the janitor at the Guardian headquarters is also a journalist.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/28/2020|
Owen Jones is being tirelessly attacked by homophobic radical feminists.
It’s sad that he also has to endure gay men defending that.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/28/2020|
Blocking the troll at r24.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/28/2020|
Words have meaning!
Unless I want to be homophobic and have them mean something else.
Right I’m off for a cuppa.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/28/2020|
He is starting to pork out.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/28/2020|
Most men like a little something extra to hold on to.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/28/2020|
R27 Yes, his jowls are getting porky, like the insufferable chav, Jamie Oliver.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/28/2020|
Gay men are sadly largely absent from the upper echelons of British journalism.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/28/2020|
R30 They aren't absent from the BBC.
The BBC luvvies believe in meeting draconian quotas rather than merit.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/28/2020|
A Labour MP (a gay HIV+ jew hating misogynist MP) is in deep shit for trivialising sexual assault by accusing JK Rowling of exploiting her sexual abuse history to attack trans people.
Naturally Owen Jones is supporting him.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/28/2020|
Also worth noting Owen Jones was supporting Lloyd Russell Moyle last night. This morning Russell Moyle offered a totally insincere apology for his comments, which are not being accepted by anyone.
Jones and Russell Moyle represent the absolute worst in misogyny amongst gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/28/2020|
Yes, rad fems love attacking gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/28/2020|
If the BBC beloved in hiring on merit rather than quotas almost no women would work there.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/28/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/28/2020|
Is it possible to have "unappealing dick face" or "skinny long dick face"...?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/28/2020|
[quote] Jones and Russell Moyle represent the absolute worst in misogyny amongst gay men
This is homophobic, but not unexpected.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/28/2020|
Why is he obsessed with trans rights?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/28/2020|
[quote]This is homophobic, but not unexpected.
A gay man recognising the misogyny in other gay men is now homophobic?
Would I be homophobic to describe as racist the gay men who put "no blacks, no asians, no offence" on their hook up profiles?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/28/2020|
And from a BBC article published this weekend:
[quote]And this discrimination also extends to what some people describe as transphobic preferences in the dating world: from cisgender gay men not wanting to date trans men, to the routine fetishisation of trans women.
If you're a gay man who doesn't find someone with a vagina sexually attractive, YOU ARE TRANSPHOBIC.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/28/2020|
[quote]Why is he obsessed with trans rights?
He isn't. He mentions them far less than say Janice Turner.
[quote]Would I be homophobic to describe as racist the gay men who put "no blacks, no asians, no offence" on their hook up profiles?
Wait, I thought forcing people to have sex with people they weren't attracted to was the worst thing in the world?
Or only when you can use that as an avenue for transphobia.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/28/2020|
I don't feel under attack or threatened by trans people.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/28/2020|
[quote]Wait, I thought forcing people to have sex with people they weren't attracted to was the worst thing in the world?
A gay man not being sexually aroused by people with vaginas is one thing.
Saying you would never consider meeting a guy because of their skin colour is something else entirely.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/28/2020|
And the mental gymnastics of fishlogic begin...
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/28/2020|
R44 What if I, a white man, said I was only into black men? You'd say that was OK, right? Or if I said I'm only into trans?
Despite both being obvious examples of fetishisation that excludes whole swathes of the population you wouldn't have a problem with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/28/2020|
[quote]What if I, a white man, said I was only into black men? You'd say that was OK, right? Or if I said I'm only into trans?
There's a difference between a preference and not finding people of a certain race attractive. There's not a single white person you'd contemplate having sex with?
And if said you were only into trans, fair enough! Assuming its trans men, you are attractive to vaginas and not penises. That's fine. We all have preferences when it comes to where we put our fingers, tongues and dicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/28/2020|
[quote]What if I, a white man, said I was only into black men? You'd say that was OK, right?
Yes. That's fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/28/2020|
Meanwhile the brave men and women who marched in the Moscow Pride were assaulted by the police and thirty of them arrested. Over to you, Owen?
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/28/2020|
Do you have a link for that, R49?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/28/2020|
[quote] Why is he obsessed with trans rights?
He joins those gay men and others who want to use “trans rights” as a cudgel against everyone else. They absolutely MUST virtue signal how incredibly fucking woke they are, and to do that they will make damn sure that you know this is THE most pressing and urgent issue of our time to which you must pay close attention. In fact — let me get the wording correct — “we must do all we can to center the most marginalized members of the community.”
This has less to do with trans rights and everything to do with letting you know that they are the wokest of the most woke. 🙄
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/28/2020|
Or maybe he just sympathizes with a group who he feels, like gay men, have faced a struggle?
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/28/2020|
Ignore the spammy troll (r20, et al) who just comes into these threads to insult women and accuse us all of being women and radfems. He shows up in every trans-related thread and his tactic is to distract and divide, anything to change the subject from trans.
He posts endlessly and the only solution is to block him and not engage. He's posted 18 times in this thread already.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/28/2020|
Owen Jones is not entitled to criticism for his views. That's how he makes his living. And he takes many radical positions that are far out of step with most people, who are mostly moderate. So it's inevitable he gets it back.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/28/2020|
Sorry, freedom from criticism...
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/28/2020|
Do you deny supporting rad fem ideology, R53?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/28/2020|
Owen Jones is one of the reasons people are fleeing Labour. To get away from the authoritarians like him and Corbyn.
It'd be nice if he stood up for actual gay people and Lesbians.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/28/2020|
And again, Pride and gay issues are sidelined for Trans. They've got to be out front every fucking time - taking the banners away from the gays and lesbians who started everything.
If you don't want to get lost in Pride, start your own damn parade on a different day so you can have all the attention to yourself. But no, they don't want that. They just want to takeover and sit in front without doing the work of putting the Pride events together.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/28/2020|
The anti-trans hysteria is scary. You are willingly giving power to conservative trash bags and promoting hatred and division.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/28/2020|
Owen Jones would rather suck a tranny ladydick than defend actual gay men. Fuck him!
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/28/2020|
If would be nice if you spent as much time attacking homophobes as you did gay men, fish.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/28/2020|
R46 is trying to divide and conquer. Most of us here do not discriminate by race when it comes to dating. This is about trans people Being sex nazis, hon. Stay on topic.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||06/28/2020|
R24/R61/etc. = Owen Jones, high on sniffing transman queefs
So, you're the pro-trans troll who shits all over the other threads with your nonsensical and deluded comments. Gay men here--like myself--either don't care at all or have been annoyed by tranny shenanigans for a while. You're just wasting your time. Go read some Pink News instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||06/28/2020|
This forum has always hated Owen for defending POC and not subscribing to bigotry and hatred of other minorities.
IMO, he’s one of the good ones. Not these bigot conservative and conservative-enabling garbage.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||06/28/2020|
[quote] Gay men here--like myself--either don't care at all or have been annoyed by tranny shenanigans for a while.
Well, I don’t care about trans either.
It’s not my issue.
But I do oppose to the increasingly obvious homophobia in the radical feminism that’s behind the spate of transphobia on this site and in broader culture.
Of all the pro-trans people they could attack — including straight men and women — the TERFs seem to love going after Owen Jones more than anyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||06/28/2020|
R64 - you have reading comprehension problems then. It's not black and white like that and you know it. You want to see it as people in support of things and anyone counter to 100% complete blind support must be bigots and conservatives.
Grow the fuck up or at least get an education to know how to think critically.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||06/28/2020|
What’s a woman r65?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||06/28/2020|
TERF is a manufactured term to demonize women who think differently on this matter.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||06/28/2020|
The Owen Jones fanboy in this thread is the same one who thinks sex categories in sport should be abolished and women should compete against men the same height as them.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||06/28/2020|
He IS a journalist. He's extremely intelligent. Oxford educated. But, he's just so fucking obnoxious.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||06/28/2020|
Owen Jones is angry that everything he's campaigned for over the last 10 years is coming to an end.
Sanders has been rejected in the US, so he'll be desperate for Trump to beat Biden so he can be pious in his "If Bernie had run he'd have beaten Trump" rewriting of history.
In the UK, Keir Starmer has only been leader of the opposition for 3 months and is already more popular than Boris Johnson and is the most popular leader of the opposition since Tony Blair. The candidate Owen Jones supported for Labour Leader was sacked for promoting an article by an actor with a Jewish conspiracy theory trope in, and Starmer's cabinet now has no Corbyn supporters of influence in it.
The movement he's supported is grinding to halt and he has no influence other than getting his 1 million followers to launch pile ons against women he doesn't like, which lets face it is most of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||06/28/2020|
Honestly, like so many of our progressive betters. My politics shifted from centre to the left during the last three months in particular, but I gotta be honest, many of the leading lights make it really fucking hard to be happy about it. You don't bring anybody along by hectoring or talking down to them or shaming, not unless you want to intimidate people into backing you... and those are pretty shifting sands. I know I will get killed for saying that.... DL is one of the great wellsprings of virtue by the running of the bulls.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||06/28/2020|
Hopefully, the gay rights movements keeps making inroads.
Despite people like R71.
Shower in acid, R71.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/28/2020|
R73 would be an example of what I was talking about.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||06/28/2020|
I know you hate the idea of gay men making progress, R74.
But we're going to keep fighting!
And we will stop the rad fem's homophobia like a punch to the face.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/28/2020|
R73 has been all over the trans threads, using misogynistic language, arguing women's sport should be abolished if women can't compete against men. He also doesn't like Jews.
"Hopefully your cunt gets stuck in a blender." is his most witty contribution to date.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/28/2020|
[quote]He also doesn't like Jews.
[quote]"Hopefully your cunt gets stuck in a blender." is his most witty contribution to date.
Food processors are also serviceable!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||06/28/2020|
R75, you're laughable. It is evident how much you know.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/28/2020|
Owen Jones is Britain's favorite champagne socialist.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/28/2020|
[quote] Owen Jones is Britain's favorite champagne socialist.
I thought that was Cherie Blair.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||06/28/2020|
Does anyone really care what a 35 year old bottom thinks?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||06/28/2020|
R81 what makes you think he's a bottom?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/28/2020|
Because every gay man in London knows he's one, R82.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/28/2020|
I've never heard that Owen Jones is a bottom, and even if he is, that's nothing to shame him for, especially compared to the jew hate and misogyny he enables.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/28/2020|
Owen refuses to compromise. And he walks out
|by Anonymous||reply 85||Last Monday at 12:33 AM|
He's smart to know never to compromise with people who hate gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||Last Monday at 12:49 AM|
Go back to bed, freak r86 (Who's posted 1/4 of the responses in this thread, all misogynistic).
|by Anonymous||reply 87||Last Monday at 12:52 AM|
That has nothing to do with Pride or Owen Jones.
Not everything must be about that fee-fees from that fish-hole betwixt women's legs.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||Last Monday at 12:54 AM|
Owen Jones is careful not to get out of his intellectual depth. He refuses to debate with Douglas Murray.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||Last Monday at 1:07 AM|
Douglas Murray is good. I love seeing a strong gay man out there who don't need no woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||Last Monday at 1:10 AM|
if only Douglas Murray and Owen Jones could hate fuck each other to death.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Monday at 2:21 AM|
Can't see Owen having the staying power really, R91.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||Last Monday at 4:50 AM|
I prefer Murray -- he's more gay centric, though I disagree with his conclusions as to whether trans are good for gays. All his politics are informed by what's good for gays.
Jones has the problem a lot of gay men have: caring about others. A lot of gay men tend to feel like stewarts of the broader LGBT community, unaware of the extent to which many on the not gay men in that community hate them. Jones' politics are more about what he believes is good for the world in general, not gay men specifically.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||Last Monday at 4:55 AM|
Nice chemistry with Peter Hitchens:
|by Anonymous||reply 94||Last Tuesday at 6:24 AM|
I don't think that will happen, R91.
1. Because Jones has refused point blank to actually talk with Douglas Murray.
2. Because Murray knows how to share and conciliate to come to a satisfactory resolution. Whereas young Jones jabs away like a baby spitting a dummy.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||Last Tuesday at 3:31 PM|
Plus, Jones isn't Murray's type. On any level. So don't hold your breath for "DougOwen."
|by Anonymous||reply 96||Last Tuesday at 3:58 PM|
[quote] Plus, Jones isn't Murray's type.
Really? Murray doesn't like leaving loads in the ass of craving bottoms?
|by Anonymous||reply 97||Last Tuesday at 4:54 PM|
What are you suggesting, R97? Do you claim to know something that we don't?
|by Anonymous||reply 98||Last Tuesday at 5:01 PM|