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Gallup Poll: Most Americans do NOT find Abortion, Teen Sex, Porn, Suicide, Adultery Morally Acceptable

Of the 21 issues included in the latest poll, all but five have been measured since the early 2000s, and 13 are considered morally acceptable to majorities of Americans.

At least seven in 10 U.S. adults say birth control, drinking alcohol, getting a divorce, sex between an unmarried man and woman, gambling, and smoking marijuana are acceptable moral behaviors. Likewise, two-thirds of Americans consider gay or lesbian relations, having a baby outside of marriage and medical research using human embryonic stem cells as acceptable. In addition to the death penalty, medical testing on animals, buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur, and doctor-assisted suicide are morally acceptable to narrower majorities. Views on abortion are split nearly evenly, with 47% saying it is morally wrong and 44% acceptable. The remaining seven issues are viewed by majorities of Americans as morally wrong. Extramarital affairs are rated as the most morally wrong behavior, followed by cloning humans, suicide, polygamy, cloning animals, pornography and teenage sex.

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by Anonymousreply 11307/18/2020

That’s why [strikethrough]Pence’s[/strikethrough] I mean TRUMP’s campaign sees taking a pro-life stance beneficial to their “religious freedom” platform, but they will undoubtably shy away from adultery and porn since both are common pastimes for married male politicians.

by Anonymousreply 106/25/2020

There is a large population of people who vote only on abortion - I know many. They ignore all the other horrible stuff - just to get a Supreme Court that may overturn Roe - which may not happen completely but can be whittled away successfully. It’s such a wedge issue that means a huge portion of voters will never go Dem no matter how horrible Rethuglicans get.

by Anonymousreply 206/25/2020

I agree that extramarital affairs are immoral. If you want to fuck someone else then either open up your relationship or get divorced! Cheaters are just greedy selfish assholes.

by Anonymousreply 306/25/2020

Is this another poll via landline phones?

I always wonder who these polls ask/target -- I've never once been included in any political or social poll in all my life.

by Anonymousreply 406/25/2020

R3 I disagree. Her vajaja just old and boring, same old same old. I needed something new and fresh and exciting. I still like her as a person.

by Anonymousreply 506/25/2020

Americans are far being the brightest people in the world. The USA was one of the last Western countries in the world to legalize same-sex marriage and their fanatical views on abortion are primitive, and the list goes on. This poll reflects the American mentality and it isn't good.

by Anonymousreply 606/25/2020

I also thought there was no chance in hell that a self-professed “pussy-grabber” could win the election in the current climate - until “365 Days” became the *NUMBER 1* movie on Netflix. I doubt America will ever escape its Bronze Age beliefs.

by Anonymousreply 706/25/2020

What beliefs do you think are Bronze Age?

by Anonymousreply 806/25/2020

With the recent advances in DNA paternity testing, I look forward to a world where abortion is illegal. (It is already almost unavailable in sh_thole states like S. Dakota.)

In such a world, a woman can easily get herself pregnant and claim child support. In fact, an attractive young woman can troll the bars until she finds a wealthy male during her ovulation. There would no defense in court.

by Anonymousreply 906/25/2020

I’m an independent voter. I’m gay and liberal in many ways but I do not think abortion should be legal unless under extreme circumstances such as when the mothers life would be compromised by giving birth or in instances of child rape. Using abortion as another form of birth control is unacceptable to me.

by Anonymousreply 1006/25/2020

Tucker Carlson nailed it when he said America is socially conservative and economically liberal. I've been socially liberal in the past but am moving more toward conservatism as I get older.

by Anonymousreply 1106/25/2020

[quote] I’m an independent voter

LOL

[quote] Using abortion as another form of birth control is unacceptable to me.

Someone else telling a woman what to do with her own body is unnaceptable to me.

by Anonymousreply 1206/25/2020

I don’t get how people feel that abortion is horrible - yet miscarriages happen all the time and there aren’t funerals for those “babies”. I know a lot of gay men who are anti-abortion and it boggles my mind. As a gay man, I think women who get abortions should be given compensation and considered moral heroes for their sacrifice.

by Anonymousreply 1306/25/2020

[quote]Gallup Poll: Most Americans do NOT find Abortion, Teen Sex, Porn, Suicide, Adultery Morally Acceptable

But apparently, they're perfectly fine with Hypocrisy and Lying.

by Anonymousreply 1406/25/2020

I noticed a lot more support for criminalizing early abortion (first trimester) among my fellow gays than I would have expected, but then we don’t have to be concerned with unplanned pregnancy, and if there are less abortions, there’s a bigger pool of kids to adopt should we want to.

[quote] I do not think abortion should be legal unless under extreme circumstances such as when the mothers life would be compromised by giving birth or in instances of child rape.

R10 Why do you not include adult rape victims as an exception? Are they responsible for asking their rapist to wear a condom?

by Anonymousreply 1506/25/2020

I think Abortion is abhorrent, evil. I’m liberal on a lot of issues, but not on this moral issue

by Anonymousreply 1606/25/2020

R15 an adult should have the emotional capacity to carry it to term and give it up for adoption.

by Anonymousreply 1706/25/2020

I think that all men should get a vasectomy, and should only be reversed when there is a legal document that says these men will, at the least, financially support the children they produce.

by Anonymousreply 1806/25/2020

[quote]an adult should have the emotional capacity to carry it to term and give it up for adoption.

R15 Then would you give an exception to developmentally disabled women, and women with severe mental illness or emotional trauma? Should they be allowed to have abortions after being impregnated by a rapist?

by Anonymousreply 1906/25/2020

^^ R19 was a reply to R17.

by Anonymousreply 2006/25/2020

I consider abortion to be a "necessary evil". Hell no, I am not pro-abortion but I am definitely pro-choice. There *is* a difference.

by Anonymousreply 2106/25/2020

I watch the news and it chills me to the bone to see American fattards being moralistic. The only thing here that bothers me is adultery and that's it.

by Anonymousreply 2206/25/2020

We must NEVER go back to the days of illegal, back alley abortions. I've read horror stories of women who died or were rendered infertile for the rest of their lives. Love it or hate it abortion MUST remain legal for the good of all, especially women. We can't go back to the Dark Ages.

by Anonymousreply 2306/25/2020

If the US would embrace comprehensive sex education and freely available birth control, abortions would be much less necessary. Countries that have these things have a far lower rate of abortion. Anyone who is anti-sex ed and anti-birth control but condemns desperate women for having abortions is sanctimonious hypocrite who just wants to control women.

by Anonymousreply 2406/25/2020

r10 in that case any man that gets a woman pregnant should be required by law to financially provide for that child or go to jail. You can't demand a woman be saddled with a child and not also demand that the utmost be done to care for that child's needs. Women still make less money than men and still have to fight for the good jobs that do exist. Forcing them to have children is further handicapping them.

by Anonymousreply 2506/25/2020

I suppose if gay men feel it is right to oppose abortion then our community should also be open to helping provide for or care for those unwanted children. If we feel we have a legitimate say in what a woman does with a fetus we should at least do the right thing and step up to lend any aid we can once those unwanted children are born.

by Anonymousreply 2606/25/2020

[quote]I do not think abortion should be legal unless under extreme circumstances such as when the mothers life would be compromised by giving birth or in instances of child rape.

So you’re fine with abortion as long as you get to dictate the terms.

by Anonymousreply 2706/25/2020

The great news is that the Republicans who want to criminalize all abortions are planning on instituting universal health care, expanding welfare benefits, and providing free mental health/childcare as well as college tuition to rape victims so that they can resume their education/career plans derailed when they were raped and impregnated.

Haha... just kidding.

by Anonymousreply 2806/25/2020

You should have been aborted, r26. A late term one. Still crying and disposed of as medical waste.

by Anonymousreply 2906/25/2020

Bitter, deplorable queen on aisle R29!

by Anonymousreply 3006/25/2020

Yet many of these same people do at least one (if not more) of these very things they claim are immoral.

by Anonymousreply 3106/25/2020

[quote] Yet many of these same people do at least one (if not more) of these very things they claim are immoral.

There are people who recognize that something is immoral, but don’t necessarily want it to be illegal or have people prevented from doing it. That’s why there is a difference in the number of people who say abortion should be illegal and the number of people who recognize it as being immoral.

by Anonymousreply 3206/25/2020

The late great gospel vocalist, Ethel Waters, was a product of rape.

by Anonymousreply 3306/25/2020

Abortion is the dumbest issue in the world. Is any other country on the planet still hung up on this shit? Keep it safe and legal.

by Anonymousreply 3406/25/2020

[quote]I know a lot of gay men who are anti-abortion and it boggles my mind.

It's about control. They don't give a shit about the "babies," they just want to tell women what to do. It's often the same gays who are constantly complaining about women not dressing properly, behaving properly, staying at home with the kids where they belong, stuff like that.

by Anonymousreply 3506/25/2020

I agree, R34. It's not my business, and it shouldn't be the government's business. It's a medical decision a woman makes for herself. Let her do it and stop butting in.

by Anonymousreply 3606/25/2020

[quote]The late great gospel vocalist, Ethel Waters, was a product of rape.

Wow - that’s amazing R33. Perhaps in addition to criminalizing abortion in cases of rape, maybe rape itself should be encouraged. Without it, there would be no Ethel Waters!

by Anonymousreply 3706/25/2020

Perhaps not but they all make terrific subjects for lifetime movies.

by Anonymousreply 3806/25/2020

If we didn't count the abortions, it wouldn't be such a problem.

by Anonymousreply 3906/25/2020

R34, many nations agree with the plurality of Americans who think abortion is immoral. In fact, at least 26 countries do not permit abortion under any circumstances. At least 39 only permit abortion to save the life of the mother.

by Anonymousreply 4006/25/2020

Nowadays I find myself leaning towards the anti-abortion side. Oddly, I don't like that part of my values, as I've always considered myself very progressive regarding social issues. However I've had several close female friends who have used abortion as a form of birth control; when you see it used in that manner, I do think that changes something in a person. I don't think it's a widespread issue, but there are instances where abortion is really misused, which I do think turns it into a broader social issue. And the women I know aren't hillbilly slobs; these are women who are educated, some even privileged, and yet they can't seem to fully grasp that hetero sex creates kids. I think it's easy for a lot gay men to take the pro-choice stance due to our own adversarial social issues (which is very noble and fine position to take), but when you actually see it abused by people who were just too drunk to remember to use a condom, or women who wont take birth control, it does get disheartening. Part of what fuels that thought in me is that I've known gay men who have made mistakes in protecting themselves and ended up compromising their health. There are no backsies or do-overs. As a millennial gay man who came into sex before PReP was available and had friends who compromised their health and would give anything to get that second chance to do it over, I just find the idea of women using abortion as birth control very repugnant and it really complicates my ability to take a progressive stance on the issue. Sex has consequences, and one of them for heteros is kids.

by Anonymousreply 4106/25/2020

In Brazil, abortions are only legal for women who have been raped by an assailant they do not know, as well as rape or sexual activity with a family member. The third and final reason why someone in Brazil would be able to schedule an appointment for an abortion is if the pregnant woman's body and overall health is at stake, as a result of the pregnancy.

by Anonymousreply 4206/25/2020

El Salvador, Nicaragua, and the Dominican Republic completely ban abortion

by Anonymousreply 4306/25/2020

Malta bans abortions

by Anonymousreply 4406/25/2020

Poland bans abortion with relatively few exceptions

by Anonymousreply 4506/25/2020

Haiti, Iraq, and the Congo also 100% ban abortion.

by Anonymousreply 4606/25/2020

Everyone should say whether they are male or female when they give their opinions that abortion should be illegal and the government should have control what adults humans do with their own bodies. Then, any of you who hold this opinion and are male can shove your fucking opinion up your ass.

If they get to control women's bodies, they get to control gay men's dicks and assholes, too, you stupid fucks.

by Anonymousreply 4706/25/2020

Abortion is banned in Andorra except in cases where it is necessary to save the life of the pregnant woman

by Anonymousreply 4806/25/2020

criminal provisions on abortion in the Philippines do not contain any exceptions allowing abortion, regardless if the life of the pregnant woman is at risk.

by Anonymousreply 4906/25/2020

San Marino imposes a total ban on abortion.

by Anonymousreply 5006/25/2020

Interactive map showing the countries with the strictest to most lenient abortion laws (for the curious):

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by Anonymousreply 5106/25/2020

“PigFucker Carlson nailed it” - R11

by Anonymousreply 5206/25/2020

A small majority think abortion is not moral. But a greater majority still think it should be legal, even if they also think it is immoral. So, the conservatives to fuck right off.

by Anonymousreply 5306/25/2020

This explains why a majority claims to be prochoice but many of these people vote Republican. People might think something should be legal, but if they think it’s immoral or sinful, they aren’t going to fight for it to be legal or prioritize its legalization. A lot of prochoice people are Nominally so and add soft on the matter. They don’t really care if it’s banned or not because they think abortion itself is wrong.

by Anonymousreply 5406/25/2020

[quote] I just find the idea of women using abortion as birth control very repugnant

It's not your fucking business, it doesn't remotely concern you. Many people find us faggots repugnant too, you know. MANY would love to have us be put to death for it.

Mind your own fucking business

by Anonymousreply 5506/25/2020

[quote]Sex has consequences, and one of them for heteros is kids.

Think of what life will be like for a kid who is a “consequence.”

[quote]...when you actually see (abortion) abused by people who were just too drunk to remember to use a condom...

Speaking of drinking heavily during conception or pregnancy, fetal alcohol syndrome or being born drug-addicted with permanent neurological damage is a consequence that the CHILD suffers, not the parents who can dump the kid off at an adoption agency once they are born. Since you care so much about human life, R41, would you be willing to adopt one of these physically/mentally impaired kids?

by Anonymousreply 5606/25/2020

I’m more interested as to why a woman would choose abortion over giving up the baby for adoption. There are a lot of gay and infertile couples who would like to adopt. Even though I identify as pro choice, I don’t see it as moral especially after the baby is born. Still shocked that Northams political career wasn’t ruined after his comments about letting an already birthed baby die.

by Anonymousreply 5706/26/2020

"I’m more interested as to why a woman would choose abortion over giving up the baby for adoption"

I'm more interested as to why a gay man would choose an asshole over a vagina. (See how that works, r57?)

You too are also a piece pf shit, r41.

by Anonymousreply 5806/26/2020

I was pregnant and going to give it up for adoption, but holy shit. The people involved were so scummy. They wanted to know if I was pretty. Not if the kid would physically resemble them, just if I or the father was hot. One of them screamed at their dog to shut up while we were on the phone. Another kept going on about Jesus and was so fucking tickled that I had a German background and wanted to know if I was blonde. Well were you a blonde child, no. Oh that's too bad, blondes are the most beautiful. The lawyers were just scum. Telling me i could get $20, 000 extra dollars if I held out for one rich couple. I asked if there were any gay couples who wanted to adopt and he acted like I'd asked for the Manson family.

The guy who knocked me up threatened to kill me if I didn't get an abortion. I didn't feel safe and I didn't want anyone I'd talked to have anything to do with that baby. It's insane that nobody gave a fuck about abortion until churches couldn't be openly racist and needed a new "moral issue". The world has too many people already.

by Anonymousreply 5906/26/2020

R41, you're basically saying women should be punished for getting drunk and not using birth control properly, by being forced to have a child.

Do you really think you're the moral, upstanding guy you think you are when you want to use a human baby as a means of punishment?

Not that I believe for a second that you have "several" "privileged' women friends who "use abortion as birth control," but even if you did, it wouldn't be any of your damn business.

by Anonymousreply 6006/26/2020

[quote]Even though I identify as pro choice, I don’t see it as moral especially after the baby is born.

There is no such thing as post-birth abortion, you propagandist. It does not happen.

Why at 3:00AM did we all of a sudden have a bunch of "I'm liberal but hate abortion because women murder their babies after they're born" folks show up? Christ.

by Anonymousreply 6106/26/2020

I think all but the 1% should be sterilized at birth. Being born into anything but that is torture on this planet.

by Anonymousreply 6206/26/2020

[quote]I’m an independent voter. I’m gay and liberal in many ways but I do not think abortion should be legal unless under extreme circumstances such as when the mothers life would be compromised by giving birth or in instances of child rape. Using abortion as another form of birth control is unacceptable to me.

Well sure. I can see where wanting to deprive other people of their right would make you independent, liberal, and gay.

They hypocrisy is breathtaking.

by Anonymousreply 6306/26/2020

The saddest part of r10 and his trolling replies is that there are people who actually believe that crap and see the world that way, as opposed to simply wanting to get a rise out of DLers.

by Anonymousreply 6406/26/2020

R57 Not only is childbirth occasionally dangerous, pregnancy changes and sometimes "ruins" a women's body, even if there is a movement to declare them "battle wounds." They have stretch marks, bladder issues, tearing, scarring, and more. Some women want control over their bodies and would rather not go through the process if it is a choice between that and an abortion.

by Anonymousreply 6506/26/2020

"Gallup Poll: Most Americans do NOT find Abortion, Teen Sex, Porn, Suicide, Adultery Morally Acceptable."

News flash: Polls show most Americans attend church on a regular basis.

News flash: Public records indicate there aren't enough pews in all of the churches in the country to accommodate all the fat asses who claim they go to church on a regular basis.

News flash: a large number of Americans lack any kind of self-awareness and are actually low info voters.

by Anonymousreply 6606/26/2020

I'm a "Gallup household " and I didn't get this. I wonder why. Also I get mine via email.

by Anonymousreply 6706/26/2020

I think birth control is a great advancement but I'm really uncomfortable with abortion. I don't mention it because I see what happens when anyone ever expresses a controversial opinion on the left--immediate cancellation. It's a shame because I would love to be able to argue this issue, both to be exposed to opposing arguments and to better explore my own position, but the idea of that happening in the current hyper-PC microaggresion culture is honestly laughable. So, at least in the short term, I don't see my view shifting, and I do vote in this issue sometimes. GG

by Anonymousreply 6806/26/2020

And yet, R68, you have no problem with the right "cancelling" a woman's right to control her own destiny, up to and including "macro-agressions" against abortion providers, including bombing abortion clinics and murder of abortion providers..

Very interesting double standard.

by Anonymousreply 6906/26/2020

[quote]you have no problem with the right "cancelling" a woman's right to control her own destiny, up to and including "macro-agressions" against abortion providers, including bombing abortion clinics and murder of abortion providers..

Really? I don't?? That's news to me!

Your response was as irrelevant as it was a poorly-executed caricature. What do you hope to accomplish by pretending that anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you is literally an abortion clinic bomber? This is exactly the kind of decisive, dismissive rhetoric that summary ends discussion and allows the mentally ill to think they've done... something? Do you really think that someone who says they are uncomfortable with abortion is necessary a supporter of clinic obgyn murder? Totally delusional!

by Anonymousreply 7006/26/2020

[quote]by pretending that anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you is literally an abortion clinic bomber?

Well, history has shown us that this divisive topic results in... abortion clinic bombers (with folks who laughably say "I would love to be able to argue this issue" but because someone on an anonymous forum calls them names, says "I don't see my view shifting" tsk-tking, and thereby granting their approval to radical abortion-clinic-bombing activists).

by Anonymousreply 7106/26/2020

[quote] by pretending that anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you is literally an abortion clinic bomber?

Please, fuck off with this phony innocuousness. This is what every right wing person says when they take heat after saying something stupid and/or non-factual: "I guess you don't like free speech", "how should I know the truth", "what I'm saying is just an opinion". If you can't take criticism, then don't share your "opinion" anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 7206/26/2020

R68/R70 is some ancient, faux elegant queen who hasn't been near a vagina since he sprang from his mother's loins 90 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 7306/26/2020

Anti-choice people who pretend to be “pro-life” always skirt the issue of what happens to the unwanted kids, especially those with physical/mental disabilities, who are dumped into adoption agencies and the foster care system. What’s your solution... not allow women to give up their kids if they are “non-adoptable?”

by Anonymousreply 7406/26/2020

If you're for bodily autonomy with abortions, you're for bodily autonomy with masks. Same legislation governs both.

by Anonymousreply 7506/26/2020

You're right R74, once you become a burden to society you should just be killed off. Can I have your stuff once your gone?

by Anonymousreply 7606/26/2020

Unmasked Americans can have volunteers escort them in and out of Whole Foods to keep the harrassers at bay.

by Anonymousreply 7706/26/2020

It is interesting that Moral acceptance of pornography has not grown much in the modern era. People still say it’s very immoral.

by Anonymousreply 7806/26/2020

R77 While wearing "I shop unmasked" shirts. A six foot distance must be maintained by pro-mask advocates away from the Whole Foods door at all times.

Pro-mask advocates will dig through the Whole Foods garbage to find used tissues, and will have them tested for Covid-19.

by Anonymousreply 7906/26/2020

Like the GOP uses abortion as a political tool, why then don't the dems use adultery?

by Anonymousreply 8006/26/2020

Yup R74. with the exception of say nuns who are pro-life but also pro-social programs and even sex ed/contraception (yes these rad nuns exist and they are awesome), “pro-lifers” are nothing but politically expedient fetus worshippers. That the GOP has cornered the market on anti-abortion is one of the greatest cons of the past 50 years.

by Anonymousreply 8106/26/2020

Abortions aren't a spiritual or ethical, they're financial.

Poor women have abortions to save money, because they can't afford kids.

Wealthy professional women have them because time is money, and their time could be put to a more lucrative end than childcare when they're young and building their careers.

Parents want them because it protects generational wealth. If your daughter gets pregnant in high school or college, get her to the abortion clinic and not only is her future career protected, grandma and grandpa don't have to finance the kid's upbringing.

I've always been baffled as to why lesbians are so gung-ho about abortion, presumably it's an aspect of their fear of corrective rape. They want a guaranteed option they can get rid of an unwanted kid.

by Anonymousreply 8206/26/2020

WTF - porn is morally wrong? Who the fuck are these people. And what the hell are they doing in their spare time

by Anonymousreply 8306/26/2020

[quote]If you're for bodily autonomy with abortions, you're for bodily autonomy with masks. Same legislation governs both.

R75 That’s like saying “If you’re pro-life, you’re pro mask. Same legislation governs both.” Both statements are stupid false equivalencies.

by Anonymousreply 8406/26/2020

[quote]You're right [R74], once you become a burden to society you should just be killed off. Can I have your stuff once your gone?

R76 It’s not about THEM being a burden to society; it’s about the suffering THEY will face from being neglected, abused, and not provided the medical and mental health services they need because most the same people who “cared” so much for them when they were an insentient blob of cells don’t give a shit about them once they are born into a complex human being.

by Anonymousreply 8506/26/2020

[quote]Like the GOP uses abortion as a political tool, why then don't the dems use adultery?

You tell me.

by Anonymousreply 8606/26/2020

People who are against abortion are so weird. My boyfriend is kind of but we don't talk about it. It just seems like a way to shame people for accidents that happen outside of marriage and force your personal preference on other people.

by Anonymousreply 8706/26/2020

[quote]It just seems like a way to shame people for accidents that happen

When the man’s erect penis accidentally enters the woman’s vagina and he accidentally leaves it there until he ejaculates?

by Anonymousreply 8806/26/2020

It seems a little extreme to risk giving up democracy, clean environment, healthcare, civil rights and your financial well-being just to keep some knocked up 16 year old you don’t know from getting an abortion. Single issue voters are bizarre. They don’t seem to see the bigger picture.

by Anonymousreply 8906/26/2020

R89, they aren't the brightest group.

by Anonymousreply 9006/27/2020

Americans' views on abortion have been stable over the past year, with the public remaining closely divided on the issue: 48% call themselves "pro-choice," and 46% say they are "pro-life."

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by Anonymousreply 9106/30/2020

It’s not true that on demand abortion is legal throughout the western World. Abortion is significantly restricted in most places

by Anonymousreply 9207/02/2020

The “my body-my choice” argument (and all the silly equivalencies being made above) fails to acknowledge that most antiabortion people believe that the embryo or fetus is a distinct human life. I’m not saying this is true or not, just that it’s the reason why the argument only preaches to the choir.

by Anonymousreply 9307/02/2020

Precisely

by Anonymousreply 9407/02/2020

A veritable priest-ridden country.

Fascinating how it is ok to buy military spec guns though like one was buying a chocolate bar.

by Anonymousreply 9507/02/2020

Useless question, to ask someone what they want to announce they think or feel. These are only claims and claims tell me what you want me to think of you. Pornhub history and Google searches and oh yes our actual actions show we have been aborting and fucking and suiciding and fucking other people's spouses all along and will continue to. So the question isn't, How do you feel about it but How can a society give you the best support and guidance and education for when you do things you're going to do and maybe decide to choose differently.

by Anonymousreply 9607/02/2020

People often do things they think are immoral, sinful, or wrong. People who lie often think lying is wrong. A lot of the psychosis we see is attributable to people’s guilt over Doing things they think are immoral or sinful.

by Anonymousreply 9707/02/2020

I believe in abortion and I'm one of those who also believe in the death penalty as well. And honestly I don't understand people who don't believe in the death penalty. Please don't give me your reasons because I've heard them a thousand times.

If you are anti death penalty I hope your anger caused you to protest the outrageous state sanctioned killings of Timothy McVeigh and Ted Bundy and others like them. If you had no problem with them being put to death then you are pro death penalty.

by Anonymousreply 9807/02/2020

It’s wrong to kill people. Period

by Anonymousreply 9907/02/2020

So one must never carry a gun including police officers or those waging warfare because one must NEVER kill. Period.

What a fantastic world you must live in. But it's not a world anyone living on this planet would recognize.

by Anonymousreply 10007/02/2020

Some of these things are really not equal to others. Equating porn and suicide to teen sex and abortion?

by Anonymousreply 10107/02/2020

r2 Same thing with guns. You could literally have someone say "I'll destroy the country and ruin your livelihoods", and they would still vote for that person because they are pro-life and won't take away your gund.

by Anonymousreply 10207/03/2020

Bump

by Anonymousreply 10307/18/2020

[quote] You could literally have someone say "I'll destroy the country and ruin your livelihoods", and they would still vote for that person because they are pro-life and won't take away your gund.

It’s true that there are single issue voters on both sides of both the abortion and the guns debates, but it’s not clear how many there actually are.

by Anonymousreply 10407/18/2020

Democrats have failed to make courts The litmus test, driving force issue Republicans have made it for their voters.

by Anonymousreply 10507/18/2020

Abortion is grotesque, most gay men feel that way. It's a necessary evil though...and men should not determine what women can or cannot do with their bodies.

by Anonymousreply 10607/18/2020

How about the huge number of women who think abortion should be illegal?

by Anonymousreply 10707/18/2020

R44 The Maltese do have the Morning After Pill now which in practice is a very early abortion (can be taken up to 5/6 days), they are also very good customers of British Abortion clinics.

The ladies of Ireland also made frequent use of the Abortion services offered a short distance away.

by Anonymousreply 10807/18/2020

Same here R4. Who are they polling? I don't have a landline, nor have I ever received anything in the mail.

by Anonymousreply 10907/18/2020

Lots of women think abortion is wrong until they, or a daughter, need one and then it's okay. They did a study of fundie types.

by Anonymousreply 11007/18/2020

Those against abortion obviously don't get it. They act like birth control is perfect (it's not) and having a baby is the easiest task ever. The US is something like #46 for mother mortality rate, we don't have national healthcare (having a baby takes tens of thousands of dollars), major surgery is needed in many births, there's life long health consequences, and so on. I hope they are aware that anti choicers count fatal pregnancies as having an abortion, and are just as eager to cut birth control as they are abortion.

Funny, as always, not one person in here against it made a stink about fertility treatments, that use embryos up like crazy. It can take multiple embryo implants to get a successful pregnancy, if at all.

It's also funny how many on DL mock out autoimmune diseases, but must not realize pregnancy often causes them.

This is called being a hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 11107/18/2020

Oh and to those that made the argument that adult women should live with the consequences of choosing to have sex -- it works both ways. How about not providing any std treatment? Or cancer treatment that came from an std? I don't believe in doing that to anyone because I'm mentally healthy, having empathy and minding my own fucking business when it comes to the medical care of other people.

by Anonymousreply 11207/18/2020

R110, you are way overstating what is an exception. There are plenty Of people who still don’t have or advocate abortion in those difficult circumstances

by Anonymousreply 11307/18/2020
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