Biden is Polling Worse with Hispanics Than Hillary

You'd think with all the anti-Latino/brown people rhetoric, they'd want Trump out of office at any cost. Is it the stimulus check they received?

I am befuddled by the poll. Did ripping babies away from their parents, locking children in cages at the border, with no plan for reunification or even basic care not mean anything to Hispanics?

It's one poll . Let's wait to heap on the Latinx

He’s 10 points ahead of trump that is all that matters.

R2 - A lot of hispanics are not exactly dying for more of the same to come into the country. I'm not sure why that is, but it's a pretty common sentiment. Right now there seems to be some anger in the hispanic community regarding their exclusion from BLM protests/movement and feel left out, though they experience many of the same atrocities.

r2 the caste system among Latinos/Hispanics is very strong, they're just as classist as whites.

Interesting poll, OP. Yes, odd that Trump's Hispanic numbers are up so much from 2016, but odder is that his black numbers are up. 5% to 8% is paltry, but still, why up at all?

I think non-Latinos still don’t understand a significant percentage of Hispanics agree with Trump. Many Latinos are evangelicals now. When you say you are shocked so many Hispanics support Trump, you reveal you don’t know a cross section of Latinos.

Perhaps it’s his Alpha male maschismo, but Trump May do better with black men than any Republican in the modern era.

"Alpha male maschismo"

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[quote]I think non-Latinos still don’t understand a significant percentage of Hispanics agree with Trump.

White people just don't fucking get it. They think all Latinos are the same. It's pretty ignorant. It would be like thinking all Europeans are the same.

And the way Democrats talk about Latinos doesn’t help. Many Latinos resent that you associate them with illegal immigrants

R12 Or that you talk about them like they're toddlers you're tasked with babysitting.

White liberals mean well, but fuck if they aren't condescending.

[quotes]Many Latinos resent that you associate them with illegal immigrants

To put it in a white perspective: It would be like lumping upper middle-class people with redneck hillbillies. Neither group can stand the other. Latinos have all the same socioeconomic differences.

From what I recall a lot of Latinos were angry with the Obama administration about their policies against undocumented immigrants from Central America.

Also the religious disconnect and chasm is peeling away a small but potentially consequential number of people of color

Why the fuck would any hispanic or latino person support Trump? How does that make any sense at all?

Are they going to vote for Trump, asshole?

Hispanics aren’t exactly known for being smart. They’re so desperate to be accepted by whites even though most whites look at them as “brown people” or the help.

Yeah, real Alpha... with his bronzer makeup, hair dye, diapers, girdle and feminine hand mannerisms.

Why did fuckface even put that lie up there?

[quote]Right now there seems to be some anger in the hispanic community regarding their exclusion from BLM protests/movement and feel left out, though they experience many of the same atrocities.

Then let them form their own protest group, R5.

I am beyond sick of other minority/disadvantaged groups piggybacking off black American protest/civil rights movement. It's as if MLK had traveled to India when he was 18 and demanded Gandhi to make his movement about black Americans in the Jim Crow South.

Where is the 2020 Cesar Chavez? Remember the Oscars So White protest a few years ago? And Asian, Latino/a, and gay people were lambasting Ava Duvernay, Jada Pinkett, and essentially all black Americans for "not including" them in the protest?

When what seems to be the case is those other minority groups being insanely averse to the Whack-a-Mole operation that happens with black leaders/celebs/movements. Al Sharpton speaks out, and all the Tawana Brawley comments get posted. Jesse Jackson--Hymietown. Barack Obama--Rev. Wright, HL Gates, drone killings. Will & Jada--secret Scientology bots. BLM--making heroes of black thugs. And on and on and on. And on.

If you're not willing to be attacked and blackballed in service to your rights, don't come for black people who have been targets of harassment, employment insecurity, social ostracism, and physical violence.

And I get it--its hard to be the squeaky wheel, the strident voice, the target. Especially if you're educated, well-employed, with a nice home in a nice neighborhood. But don't come for black people until you've created your own, ongoing movements that go beyond Cesar Chavez or Act up, or whatever Asian American civil rights/protest group from decades ago.

Hispanics went big for Bernie in the primaries, so they resent Biden.

They can be very religious... I also find that some immigrants who are already in here turn up their noses at those who try to get in. Some call homeland security on each other. They can be clannish too— its mostly cubans, mexicans and puerto ricans who are already voting here, they probably are not too happy with the influx of central americans, who they seem to look down upon.

The problem with going all out to get Hispanic vote is at Most you’re only get 70% of the vote compared to possibly over 90% of the black vote. Moreover Hispanic turnout is a lot less reliable than African-American turn out.

Going big for Bernie just exposes even more political ignorance ... but it does show sort of the same sense. Bernie is just the flip-side of Trump. They're both populist demagogues.

R25, that’s not being clannish. It Is the reality that people from different countries are going to have different cultures, values, and beliefs. Do you expect people from the Dominican republic to be lockstep with people from Uruguay?

R5: Based on what I saw from my friend who lives in Pilsen in Chicago (a majority Mexican neighborhood), people marched together, black and white and Hispanic and everyone was on the side of BLM. So, at least in Chicago, that is not true. I can't speak to the rest of the country.

[quote]I am beyond sick of other minority/disadvantaged groups piggybacking off black American protest/civil rights movement.

Like trans/nonbinary/genderwhateverthefuck with gay people.

It's wrongthink to even bring that up, R30.

According to some, on DL and beyond, "trans rights are gay rights".

Latino voters were all in for Bernie. Biden has some work to do. He’s lucky his numbers with white people are so good because if not he’d be in trouble.

Hispanics were mowed down by the Obama administration for 8 years. They were expected to be the majority in 2040 and that no longer is the case. Of course Hispanics went tits over Bernie Sanders over the alternative, Joe Biden.

Unlike the black vote where a lot is lost in red Southern states, the Hispanic vote is vital for the survival of the Democratic party throughout the Southwest, where most of the Hispanic vote is found.

This is not a difficult concept to grasp people. There is no love lost between Hispanics and Biden.

Biden needs a Hispanic VP or Warren/Harris who have become popular with Univision and Telemundo.

[quote]Like trans/nonbinary/genderwhatever - thefuck with gay people.

Which is EXACTLY what I said REPEATEDLY in 2007-2008. The closer G&L got to marriage equality, medical equality, and DADT repeal, the angrier they would be at trans and non-gay Qs using the G&L AND black civil rights movements to push their agenda through at warp speed.

And just as not every "person of color" is a black ally, not all Ts, Qs, and Is are G&L allies.

But black people and G&L people aren't allowed to say that in public.

WTF. The Latinos need to be voting for Biden and not that current motherfucker. Help save the country. Don’t put us through another four years of a nightmare.

Even after clenching the nomination, Bernie Bros are still at it. HE LOST. Get over it. Be on the bus or be under it.

Are Bernie Bros the new Russian Bot straw men that liberals point to when there’s evidence that they might lose? If you want to win, take that message seriously and adjust your tactics accordingly instead of sticking fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and trying to convince yourself it isn’t real.

Hispanic voters (I know several) seem to resemble Protestant fundamentalists in their thinking. It's not Trump that they like, it's cultural conservatism. Cultural issues, such as abortion and trans rights, really upset them. They also have a lot of rage towards the white upper middle class, who they view as condescending.

So are you honestly telling me r33 that Hispanics are more angry about Obama's immigration policies and rhetoric than Trump's? Why?

[quote]Then let them form their own protest group, [R5].

Exactly. Why is it that black people always have to include other groups yet other groups never want to include blacks? Black people have been used for decades and are over it and have decided each group is on their own.

I know a lot of Latinos, am friends with many, have some in my family. Evangelicalism and Pentecostalism is large and growing fast with them. They often express reservations about voting Democratic because they say Democrats are against Christians and support Abortion. These are the young ones.

Ugh, that sucks. Religion poisons everything r41. Just be Pagan Catholic and have a few street processions and plastic saints. Never take the nonsense in the Bible too seriously and you'll be fine. and sure as fuck never take American Evangelicalism seriously. It's just a bunch of racist old fucks ripping each other off.

R41 Which is why I don’t trust Latinos. If they’re religious and don’t agree with abortion, you can bet they’re likely to be anti-gay too.

r37 Biden has adopted almost all of Sanders's proposals, even freebie bullshit. I think you and your ilk better decide if they want to see Donald Trump get reelected. Like seeing your rights get stripped away? Be on the bus or be under it.

A large percentage of Hispanics are racially white and see themselves as such. It shouldn’t be surprising that many go Republican. If you look at Hispanics who don’t identify as white, I would bet the numbers are very different.

I'm not a Bernie Bro, but he should support some of the freebie stuff. It's a very top heavy economy, based on the vast majority of income congealing at the top. We need to start spreading the money around, with whatever excuse is needed. Covid may be the best excuse we have, but whatever the reason, start spreading the money around. Stop feeding the rich. Been way too much of that shit in the last few decades.

Well surprising, maybe no, r45, but anyone voting Republican is being an asshole, black, white, hispanic, whatever, the only reasons are asshole reasons: racism, misogyny, homophobia, greed, stupidity, love of war. There really is no reason to keep supporting that braindead, Trump cult, bullshit party.

The longer Latinos are in America and become assimilated, the whiter they become

I've actually wondered if we will start redefining them as white, r48, in panic as we get closer and closer to a country that isn't majority white. At what point will we decide that Latinos, at least some Latinos, Cubans, Argentinians, Chileans, are actually white, just so we still have a "white" country. There was a time when the italians, and even the Irish, weren't "white", and we'd have ceased being a white country if that hadn't changed a long time ago.

R44, I have never nor did I plan on ever voting for Bernie. What I clearly said is that if you’re having trouble with attracting Latino voters, than you need to adjust your tactic in courting them instead of pretending like polls like this are just Bernie bros bitter about losing the primary trying to stir up shit.

Pretending the evidence in front of you isn’t real and instead choosing to believe conspiracy theories is the kind of delusional bullshit that is going to lose us the electron AGAIN.

[quote]Latino voters were all in for Bernie. Biden has some work to do.

Let's be real, R32. It's the Latino voters that have some work to do.

[quote]So are you honestly telling me [R33] that Hispanics are more angry about Obama's immigration policies and rhetoric than Trump's? Why?

Are you saying they were not devastating for the Hispanic community? In many more ways they were equal.

Hispanics are not enthusiastic about Biden, it's not a difficult thing to understand why. In the end Biden will carry the Hispanic vote by 60%, which is what would guarantee him the presidency and the Senate. He cannot win without the Hispanic vote. He is less progressive than young Hispanics, and older Hispanics have a score to settle with him. Still, it looks like he is going to carry them.

well, he's less progressive than young EVERYONE, of course. But Trump has been worse in every way. The idea of voting for Trump because you are mad at Obama's immigration policies is literally insane. Hopefully, as you say, they will not do that for the most part and Biden will carry the Hispanic votes by large margins. And again, there is no actual positive reason to vote for Trump. None whatsoever, whatever your old resentments are. None of them justify voting for the shittiest president in American history, especially since he is guaranteed to get worse if he gets a second term.

First generation Latinos might be more attracted to Trump than you think. Strongmen and blowhards have led Latin America with popular appeal for centuries

“Why would these stupid, simple-minded Mexicans support a racist?”

That’s exactly why a lot of Latinos dont support Democrats ⬆️

So were told that Hispanics are angry at Democrats for allowing illegal immigration and we’re also told they’re angry at Democrats for cracking down on illegal immigration under Obama. Do I got that right? This is insanity.The only party that has unabashedly in on the record encouraged illegal immigration and given amnesty is the GOP. Democrats have always been responsible about illegal immigration as you can see under Clinton and Obama.

I'm sick of the Hispanics. A lot of them are republicans. Fuck them. They are dragging the democrats down and the democrats are allowing themselves to be dragged down by them by fighting for immigrants. Most people in America are not for strong immigration

I don't care what celebrities or stupid politicians have to say on this matter, the average citizen is not pro-immigration. That right there loses the dems a lot of supporters.

^^we’re told

And can we stop this shit with the Legal Hispanics hate the Illegal Hispanics. For a lot of them, those illegals are grandma and granpa, aunt and uncle. The Cubans fuck it all up, because they're all "legal," so Republicans love to rush to the Cubans to declare that they are terribly concerned about all this, but it's all bullshit. And the fact is Trump hates the most legal of all: the Puerto Ricans.

The GOP is strongly pro immigration behind the scenes because they want all those low paying jobs filled with immigrants so they can pad their wallets.

Latinos aren't that culturally conservative. They supported Bernie and Julian Castro, who were the most far-left candidates we've seen in quite some time. They seem to gravitate towards more socialistic candidates. I've also noticed that Latinos don't respond well to pandering. They respond to the same issues that white progressives do.

If anything, Biden is too conservative for them. A more progressive running mate like Harris or Warren would help him tremendously with the Hispanic vote.

R48 for the win. By gen 2 or 3 they are assimilated. And if they have success--gainful employment, living the American dream, savings, home ownership, kids going to college, etc.-- they are as likely as white people to be repubs.

is that culture or economics r62. I think we forget how Protestant we are sometimes, where a worship of money and a worship of the Bible go hand in hand. I don't think Latin America has that dynamic.

R64, you’re aware that evangelicalism and Pentecostalism is sweeping Latin America?

yes, I do. And that is definitely part of the problem here. The worship of money is spreading, and we should stop.

Any Hispanic person that votes for Trump is a self-loathing piece of shit.

Any American that votes for Trump is shit, maybe self loathing, maybe not, but shit all the same.

Black men see Trump is a thug and a gangster and for a small percentage of them, they like him for it. Recently a relative of a black Trump fan explained to me that the guy didnt know much about policy. but "he likes how he is with women". thats probably true of a small but real percentage of many american men.

as for hispanics, the "us and them" divisiveness works well. Trump outperformed Romney. Romney worked his ass off and spent huge money courting the Latino vote. Trump called Mexicans rapists and ran on building a wall and it got him an 8% bump with hispanics. It's not all Hispanics, but for hispanic VOTERS (who are all citizens, and many are older and financially estabilshed) they like the idea of strict immigration policy just like a lot of white people.

Latinos turn Republican within a generation in the U.S.

thank you stephen miller, but I'm not so sure there will be a Republican Party in a generation.

This will not be a popular comment, but nevertheless,... I wonder if Biden's most likely choice of a woman for VP will cost him votes with this group.

With Biden as old as he is, there is a very significant likelihood that, if elected, his Vice President would become President.

And like it or not, there is a large number of men who simply do not want to even think of a woman as President.

Biden is not even (if stories are true) considering any men as his VP choice and that may cost him a significant number of votes.

or he's just going to have to win it with women and men who aren't fucked up assholes. It's a struggle, won't deny it, but it does happen sometimes.

The Hispanic community knows Biden is all talk. Joe and Obama deported more Latinos than any other administration before it and kept children in dog pound cages. He needs to stop pandering to black community and prove his commitment to them.

again, whatever you think of Obama as a Hispanic, or really anyone else, Trump is worse on every level. Voting for Trump is just a stupid decision that can only be made for stupid reasons.

R62, who told you they supported Julian Castro? No they didn’t.

This is Latino people. As long as they get a white person to throw some alms to them they’d vote for Hitler

Ironically, you sound like a Hitler voter, r77.

R77, you sound like you’d vote for Hitler yourself.

Ah R78, I wasn’t around back then so I compensated by voting for Dubya and then McCain. I lost my way the last two elections by voting for a black person and then a woman.

OP, asshole, the the difference between 58% and 61% is within the margin of error.

still kinda weird it isn't 90 percent anti-Trump. In fact, for everyone, why does this asshole incompetent have more than 10 percent of the vote from anyone?

News flash to the DL: Not all Hispanics are brown. Some are white. Also, you keep forgetting the ever courted Cuban community in Miami, which has been decisive for republicans in three big elections in the last 20 years.

I think we get that r83. But I don't think we started that. The minute you start talking about anything like the "Hispanic" community, obviously you start bringing in a lot of groups that may or may not like each other or feel anything in particular towards each other.

All it means is that Biden is due for some humble pie and it must kill him.

He will have to choose a Hispanic woman, which clearly was not the plan, if he wants to win in November.

or not, oracle, or you are completely wrong in your entire analysis and there is no reason to choose a Hispanic. There is that.

Black voters are much more solidly Democratic voters and vote more reliably than Latinos.

I have to say this election has shattered all my expectations. The twist and turns, the drama, from one extreme to the other, and in the end here comes Karma.

Fucking glorious !! Where is cunty Castro when you need him? I must know his reaction. lol

Wonder if the growing population of evangelical Latinos could be affecting some polls of support for Biden... But when it comes down to it the vast majority of Latinos fully recognize Trump as El Diablo in the flesh

Again, the idiot (I'm using strong language because once again people are trolling and smell like phish) at R85 proves how rotten people are here.

Humble pie? Biden hates that? Have to choose a Hispanic woman if he want to win?

What kind of non-brain barf pudding are you spewing here, R85, you pretentious ass?

I'm a statistician. I work in politics. I know my shit. Enten's presentation shows all of Biden's strengths and no weaknesses, except among . And his comparison of Clinton's and Trump's final polling with Biden's and Trump's three-month-average is the stuff of gross comparison, bordering on being irresponsible if interpreted outside the narrow range of his stated intentions.

Biden is not "down" by double digits. Biden and Trump are known quantities and it is standard to expect fewer undecideds in such a case.

Again, these comparisons are bad. And Enten has a reputation for shooting from the hip in the name a new story. He's immoderate here.

But the hand-wringers are worse. They're either dim, trolls, or both.

Christ, and then the 13-year-old twat shows up again at R88, piddling about nothing.

Go back to the sandbox, you stooge.

[quote] At what point will we decide that Latinos, at least some Latinos, Cubans, Argentinians, Chileans, are actually white

Is this a joke post? 90% of the people from the countries on your list ARE white. There's nothing to "decide".

there is in this country r92? you been in this country long distance? You have any idea how things work in this country?

[quote]t what point will we decide that Latinos, at least some Latinos, Cubans, Argentinians, Chileans, are actually white

Most Americans don't see them as white, but who fucking cares? The Hispanic community will continue to grow and be their own thing.

Biden must be shitting his pants though. Time for some humble pie uncle Joe.

[quote] Hispanics went big for Bernie in the primaries,

Correction--Mexicans went big for Bernies. The other latino groups did not.

The group most effected hy Obama and Trump's putting kids in cages and deporting innocent people were mexicans. It's not a suprirse they lean more progressice.

oracle, why exactly do you think that Joe Biden has some big problem here? Trump has called all Mexicans rapists and stuck Central Americans in cages. What is the trauma that Joe Biden needs to overcome here?

R97, Joe put kids in cages too. See r74

Trump is actually identified with the policy. Anyone who thinks about Trump and Hispanics, first question: didn't he stick kids in cages? He's very much the guy with the problem here.

It's true the Obama administration put kids in cages but they did not have a policy of seperating up families. If Mexican voters genuinely don't see that Biden is better than Trump, well, that's just messed up

or highly interested r100. Yes, of course, there are hispanics, like whites and blacks who like that he's corrupt old fucker who doesn't give a shit about anything but money, but most will pause and say, do I actually want this racist shit in power?

Many Hispanics don't like illegal immigration. Go figure.

they're relatives r102, define "Hispanics."

[quote]The longer Latinos are in America and become assimilated, the whiter they become

Sorry but real white people don’t consider them white.

it's actually good that Republicans are losing their minds. they are clearly losing the plot.

Some immigrants align themselves with Republicans so they can think they will 'fit in' and assimilate.

Little do they know how much that party would like to kick everyone of their brown asses out the door if they could.

Hell - look at the Log Cabin Republicans. How much fucking proof do they need that Republicans are anti-gay and 'working within the party' has produced NOTHING from them. Literally no progress.

Yet, they're still there - licking the boots of their oppressors.

Log Cabin Republicans are sad and ridiculous. I pity them.

Some people want to associate with the powerful and wealthy. People for whatever reasons think of Republicans as the Alpha strong party, and Democrats as the weaklings party. I think a lot of people of color and women who are Republican do so out of a desire to associate with the powerful and dominant.

I don't know a single young Hispanic who likes Trump. Not one, and I know a lot. That bodes well for the future. They all can't wait to vote for Biden in November. The only Hispanics who might vote for Trump are men over 40.

GRU trolls.

People should stop worrying about the Hispanic vote and take care of the extremists and anarchists in the party. Priorities.

The good numbers are that white voters have increased.

But they are prone to go back into Trump’s arms when he slimes Biden

Not buying this bullshit. GRU baby, they never give up.

How was the Obama administration, as bad or worse than Trump toward the Hispanic population, again? That sounds like Bernie Bro bullshit...but I'm open.

I'm EXHAUSTED by ALL of this and it's not even Summer. Two steps forward--one step back. EVERY month there's something new and Trump and his board of supervillains are just sitting back and watching the world burn. Interjecting just to stoke the fires of his idiot supporters and like mongoloids, they fall right in line. I'm doing my due diligence here but if Trump wins again, I'll be looking forward to being completely unplugged from any politics for the next 4 years.

[quote]"Latinx"

This is why.

Michael Moore is right: people underestimate the power of white male rage to help Trump. But they also underestimate how many women and people of color share the same views as those white males.

Democratic pickup year.

Blacks are not going to be just 83 percent for Ds. They will be just over 90 percent.

Hispanics are not going to be +25 for the Ds. They will be at least +33. (Meaning, 2-to-1 for the party.)

Whites, at 44 percent, is bad for the Republicans. Barack Obama, with re-election in 2012, received 39 percent nationally from whites—and he won the U.S. Popular Vote by nearly +4 points and received 51 percent in the U.S. Popular Vote. The Republicans need Democrats to be under 40 percent. Closer to 35 percent.

For a Democrat to be polling at 44 percent, by whites, and then what was reported with Blacks and Hispanics is not what would play out in a presidential election that switches the White House party from Republican to Democratic. Likely what would happen are national shifts across the board—or almost across the board.

R118, the election isn’t in June

Hispanics matter in the sense that their vote goes further in the general election.

In contrast, the black vote is diluted once we move to the general because most of the black vote is found in the South, historically republican and racist.

The Dems can win the election as long as Hispanics vote 2-1 Democrat. They don't need Hispanics to vote at a greater margin because Texas is too gerrymander to ever be truly in play at the moment. Native Texans already vote majority Democrat, so other factors are in play.

I would look for PA, Arizona, Michigan, and North Carolina as the path to win the election.

Biden isn't doing poorly with Latinos, though, that's just the spin being put on it.

[quote]Clinton ... led by 61% to 23%.

[quote]Biden, on the other hand, holds an average 58% to 33% lead among Hispanic registered voters

This could mean that the difference between Biden's and Clinton's support is almost nil and explained by margin of error, but Trump's definitely improved significantly with the Latino demographic.

It doesn't look like anything to worry about yet, but I'd be paying attention to future polls pretty closely. Interesting stuff here.

Actually, the black vote is absolutely critical in swing states Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Michigan, Florida, and Wisconsin. Hillary’s inability to inspire the level of black turnout necessary to win those states led to her defeat. If turnout is not hyperenergized In Milwaukee, Philly, Charlotte, Richmond, Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Detroit, Democrats will lose bigly.

[quote] but Trump's definitely improved significantly with the Latino demographic.

If he is getting re-elected.

But, it is highly unlikely given COVID-19.

2016 result, for Hispanics, was: Trump 28% vs. Hillary 66%. Margin: Democratic +38. So, Trump lost them by –38. In this pandemic, and with massive unemployment, he is not likely to improve voting support with Hispanics much less shift them in his direction nationally by +13.

Well, the poll indicates that if voting were today, Trump would lose "only" by 25 instead of 38, as he did in 2016. I agree that he doesn't have a chance in hell of actually winning the Latino demographic, but I do personally think it's interesting that he's gained 10 points in that demographic, from 23% to 33%.

[quote] How was the Obama administration, as bad or worse than Trump toward the Hispanic population, again? That sounds like Bernie Bro bullshit

It wasn't. Anything bad Obama did, Trump did 3x worse. At least.

Abacus poll: Biden leads by a wide margin among those 50 and under. Trump is competitive among registered voters 51 and older.

Among White voters (70% of the electorate), Trump and Biden are tied (44% to 43%). Biden leads by a huge margin among Black voters (77% to 6%) and among Hispanic or Latino voters (61% to 19%). Trump leads by 9-points among White voters without a college degree while Biden and Trump are tied among Whites with a college degree.

Among men, Biden leads by 13, although he is tied with Trump among White men. Biden leads by 15-points among women and 14-points among White women. Biden also leads, albeit by a smaller margin among White suburban women by 7-points. In our sample, Clinton lost suburban White women to Trump by 9-points in 2016. This represents a 16-point swing in Biden’s favour.

NOBODY with a college degree should be supporting Trump.

[quote] Margin: Democratic +38.

Margin of error?

R128,

The margin means difference. And, in that case, difference in percentage-points margins.

Margin of Error would be stated as such (or abbreviated).

Nationally, Joe Biden has opened up an eight-point lead

4 yrs ago this month Hillary had a 1 point lead over Trump

Just more evidence of how strong misogyny & sexism are in this country.

Fox News poll:

Biden 50% Trump 38%

Biden's lead comes from the backing of black voters (+79 points over Trump), those under age 30 (+37), suburban areas (+22), women (+19), and voters ages 65+ (+10).

I don’t know how Trump wins without women and old people.

Well republicans never win women

R134, Trump won the majority of White Women in 2016.

Traitors to their own sex. They coulda had an amazing woman President, but they voted for the abusive sexual predator instead.

Fucking white women are the fucking worst.

R135, I said women overall

[quote]They coulda had an amazing woman President

Who would that have been?

But Democrats chose someone even more despised than Trump

R137, I know you're trying to seem clever and edgy (you're neither), but Hillary Clinton would have been a fantastic President. She would have handled everything amazingly. Whatever lies you choose to believe about her are on you.

And no, Hillary is not and never was "more despised than Trump". Why do you idiots keep parroting that lie? She got more votes than any white man to ever run for President, she's never lost the popular vote in ANY election she's ever run in (even in 2008, Obama won the nomination but lost the popular vote to Hillary). She was voted "Most Admired Woman In the World" a record 22 times, an unprecidented 16 times in a row. She had a best selling book and a sold out book-tour. While she served at State under Obama, her approval rating was routinely in the 60s. It didn't drop until she ran for President, and the GOP smear machine turned on, amplified by all the sexist assholes who can't stand seeing women reach for a higher goal and achieve more than they ever have.

If you're shit-talking Hillary, you're just a dumbass sexist moron.

Correction: she was more despised than Trump in swing states

Correction: Trump & the GOP suppressed tons of votes in Swing States, Russian hacking may have affected outcomes, and the far Left were sexist and racist and didn't like Hillary being an intersectional woman.

Even lots of Democrats disliked Hillary. She had way too much baggage and just wasn't likable at all.

R141, maybe but a lot of young people didn’t turn out for her Because they didn’t like her. Most White women voted Trump because they didn’t like her. A significant percentage of people of color didn’t vote because they didn’t like her. That was enough to doom her

It just shows how much better Hillary was... Joe is only carried by nostalgia.

Depends on what you mean by better. Some would say not rigorously campaigning and expecting to win demonstrates one is a bad candidate, or at least politically incompetent

[quote]Even lots of Democrats disliked Hillary. She had way too much baggage and just wasn't likable at all.

Too many Democrats were seixst, and bought into the lies told about her. Which is sad.

Her "baggage" is mostly fiction... made up crap pushed by RWNJs for 30 years, smears of a good, strong, capable, liberal woman who "didn't know her place".

And she's quite likable. As pointed out earlier, when she was in the Obama Administration, her favorables were very high, higher even than Obama's.

Stop mindlessly parroting this fiction that has been created about her.

[quote]A significant percentage of people of color didn’t vote because they didn’t like her. That was enough to doom her

This is such revisionist history bullshit. She carried 96% of Black women. If Black turnout was down from Obama, it's PRIMARILY becaue this was the first Presidential election after the gutting of the Voting Rights Act, and the GOP voter suppression was off the charts. They tried and COULDN'T vote.

Oh bullshit r146. It wasn't all Repug shenanigans. Hillary had tons of baggage by her own damn self and she was just an unlikable person.

R148, keep believing that lie... keep being a gullible delusional moron that buys into the 30-year smear from RWNJs. That's on you.

r149 many Democrats were less than enamored with Hillary Clinton for reasons unrelated to the Repug smear machine. She was a shitty candidate who was much too polarizing to win by any significant margin.

And many gay men were not Hillbottoms i.e. "Hillary is my DIVA" and all that other embarrassing shit. We thought she sucked. We still voted for her but we still thought she sucked.

Leave it to US citizens to vote for people they would rather have a beer with rather than a person's background and qualifications.

We deserve what we get.

R150, all your 'reasons' have been debunked, and if you think she sucked -- especially as a gay man -- then it's only because you let yourself be brainwashed. I'm ashamed of you. Truly. You cannot wake up from your stupor to see how you were manipulated, and we were robbed of an excellent candidate who would have been an excellent President. Even in the face of Trump, you cannot let go of your baseless and irrational "hatred" of her. Shame on you.

r152 nobody was manipulated and Hillary was not an excellent candidate. I still voted for her, because I certainly didn't want Trump, but I basically held my nose and did it reluctantly.

Most people were manipulated, and Hillary was absolutely an excellent candidate. There's never been anyone as qualified, experienced, knowledgeable, hard-working, competent, or capable as her. Period.

You realize that most people who are manipulated don't realize it, right? Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean you weren't. Maybe if you learned more about her, you'd wake the fuck up, and stop mindlessly parroting all this stupid debunked bullshit.

Most pundits and political strategies, even liberal ones, say Hillary ran a horrible campaign. Even Obama called out her inept campaign.

The black voter turnout rate declined for the first time in 20 years in a presidential election, falling to 59.6% in 2016 after reaching a record-high 66.6% in 2012. The 7-percentage-point decline from the previous presidential election is the largest on record for blacks. (It’s also the largest percentage-point decline among any racial or ethnic group since white voter turnout dropped from 70.2% in 1992 to 60.7% in 1996.) The number of black voters also declined, falling by about 765,000 to 16.4 million in 2016, representing a sharp reversal from 2012.

Latino voter turnout rate held steady at 47.6% in 2016, compared with 48.0% in 2012. Overall turnout remained flat despite expectations heading into Election Day of a long-awaited, historic surge in Latino voters. Due largely to demographic growth, the number of Latino voters grew to a record 12.7 million in 2016, up from 11.2 million in 2012. Even so, the number of Latino nonvoters – those eligible to vote who do not cast a ballot, or 14 million in 2016 – was larger than the number of Latino voters, a trend that extends back to each presidential election since 1996.

blacks made up 11.9% of voters in 2016, down from 12.9% in 2012 – the first time since 2004 that blacks have declined as a share of voters.

Some have attributed the decline in black turnout to voter suppression tactics made possible by the Shelby v. Holder (2013) decision that rescinded key protections from the Voting Rights Act. But black turnout saw similar declines in states where no new voter laws were implemented after the Shelby decision.

Trump won Wisconsin by 23,000 votes … in Milwaukee, 93,000 blacks didn’t vote.

Obama — about to hand off the presidency to a man whom he declared temperamentally unfit to serve — pointedly declined to endorse Clinton’s own explanation for her defeat, instead suggesting that the former secretary of state’s failure to “show up everywhere,” not just the big diverse cities she targeted in her final campaign push, proved to be her downfall.

“How we organize politically I think is something that we should spend some time thinking about. I believe that we have better ideas, but I also believe that good ideas don’t matter if people don’t hear them,” Obama told reporters Monday ahead of a foreign trip to Greece, Germany and Peru. “And one of the issues the Democrats have to be clear on is, given population distribution across the country, we have to compete everywhere. We have to show up everywhere. We have to work at a grass-roots level, something that’s been a running thread in my career.”

Obama outperformed Clinton substantially in most suburbs and in critical swing areas in the Midwest, like Michigan’s Oakland and Macomb counties. 👏🏽

Hispanics by and large live in blue states anyway. The only place they will really matter is Florida. The way things are looking in other swings such as PA, MI, and WI, that won’t matter.

Not true. Modern elections are so close Hispanics can determine outcome of all swing state electoral votes

National Polling Throwback:

June 19, 2016: Clinton: 40% Trump: 35% Lead: Clinton +5

June 19, 2020: Biden: 50% Trump: 41% Lead: Biden +9

[quote] Hillary Clinton would have been a fantastic President.

I agree completely. Anyone who still thinks Trump would be the "lesser evil" to Hillary is out of their mind. Would Hillary have just sat on her ass while covid spread? No. And this is just one example. There are countless comparisons where Hillary would have been better than Trump. But I do think sometime around the Obama time period, Hillary became despised by many on the left. I heard from countless people--mostly Bernie supporters, of course--how Hillary was evil, just a Republican in disguise, part of the "establishment" (why is this even a bad thing?), etc. It was people like them who helped hand the election to Trump in key swing states.

I keep forgetting there's a US election in less than five months.

[bold]America’s vitriol towards Clinton reveals a nation mired in misogyny[/bold]

National GE

Among Black Voters: Biden 66% Trump 28% . Among Hispanic Voters: Biden 56% Trump 41% . Among White Voters: Trump 50% Biden 46%

@atlas_intel, LV, 8/24-30

[quote] National GE Among Black Voters: Biden 66% Trump 28% . Among Hispanic Voters: Biden 56% Trump 41% . Among White Voters: Trump 50% Biden 46% @atlas_intel, LV, 8/24-30

Trump won 8% of the black vote. He surrounded himself with white nationalists. He spent the last 3.5 yrs pushing white supremacist policies. He is running his re-election campaign against BLM. Yet you believe a poll showing him with 28% black voter support is worth discussing.

It’s almost as if the Democrats should’ve not put all their focus on the small percentages of the vote instead of doing anything to court white independents.

The Hispanics I know and work with appreciate law and order. They don't tolerate people who aren't doing their best to get ahead. They want criminals punished and hard work rewarded.

I could see why they would be leery of Democrats and their historic lax policies on crime and punishment and welfare. But I do find it surprising that anyone could overlook our current President's shortcomings and still consider him to be the best choice.

The problem is there are now several polls showing Trump with about 20% of the black vote

I don’t think Trump will get 20% of the black vote, but I think it’s quite possible that he will do better than his republican counterparts have done with Blacks in decades. I think he appeals to a significant percentage of black males.

[quote] The Hispanics I know and work with appreciate law and order. They don't tolerate people who aren't doing their best to get ahead. They want criminals punished and hard work rewarded.

Whom do you know who does not “appreciate law and order.” Most everyone hates crime. Even criminals don’t want to be victimized.

[quote] I could see why they would be leery of Democrats and their historic lax policies on crime and punishment and welfare. But I do find it surprising that anyone could overlook our current President's shortcomings and still consider him to be the best choice.

Translation:

You support Trumps lies about Democrats and you hope and pray Latinos will also. They won’t.

Bleah. WTF is wrong with black and latino voters?

Law and order doesn’t just appeal to white voters, In 2016, Trump said he believes he could win by appealing to voters who want a strong man in leadership. I think that is the essence of his appeal across demographics. I Also think that a significant minority of Black people have started to vote based upon their evangelical or religious conservative identity, which is starting to peel away a small but consequential number of black voters.

In many ways, misogyny is an even more entrenched, deeper bias in this world than racism.

[quote] I don’t think Trump will get 20% of the black vote, but I think it’s quite possible that he will do better than his republican counterparts have done with Blacks in decades. I think he appeals to a significant percentage of black males.

[quote] The problem is there are now several polls showing Trump with about 20% of the black vote

[quote] Law and order doesn’t just appeal to white voters, In 2016, Trump said he believes he could win by appealing to voters who want a strong man in leadership. I think that is the essence of his appeal across demographics. I Also think that a significant minority of Black people have started to vote based upon their evangelical or religious conservative identity, which is starting to peel away a small but consequential number of black voters.

Trump won 8% of the black vote. He surrounded himself with white nationalists. He spent the last 3.5 yrs pushing white supremacist policies. He is running his re-election campaign against BLM. Yet you believe a poll showing him with 28% black voter support is worth discussing.

The problem is that, like Trump, you are full of shit.

It's right after the R convention. This will all come down to the economy and the covid (mis) handling. Trump is doomed if Biden gets out the basement and tells us why he wants to be president. Trump will probably win because he speaks so authoritarian and confident. People respond to that. Biden needs to risk his health among the pandemic and speak to the ppl with urgency. Trump is doing that.

Despite two weeks of party conventions and amid civil unrest prompted by the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wis., the state of the race between President Donald Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden stands largely unchanged from its pre-convention numbers in some of the country’s most-contested states — with the notable exception of Arizona.

While Biden was trailing the president in the Southwestern battleground by 2 percentage points in an Aug. 7-16 Morning Consult poll conducted before the Aug. 17 start of the Democratic National Convention, the former vice president has improved his margin over Trump by 12 points.

According to the Aug. 21-30 survey of 943 likely Arizona voters, which has a 3-point margin of error, Biden leads Trump, 52 percent to 42 percent, driven by a 10-point increase in support among Arizona men, statistically tying him with Trump (49 percent to 45 percent), and a 7-point increase in support with suburban Arizonans, who now favor Biden by 9 points, 51 percent to 42 percent. He also leads among women (55 percent to 40 percent) and independents (51 percent to 37 percent) in the state.

Biden continues to hold a sizable lead over Trump in Michigan (52 percent to 42 percent) and Colorado (51 percent to 41 percent).

And while Trump has sought to leverage to his electoral advantage the images of civil unrest that arose from the Aug. 23 Blake shooting, Biden leads Trump in Wisconsin by 9 points, 52 percent to 43 percent, in the latest polling, up 3 points since before the conventions but inside the two surveys’ margins of error. As he does in Arizona, Biden holds an advantage over Trump among Wisconsin independents (52 percent to 32 percent), women (54 percent to 40 percent) and suburbanites (54 percent to 40 percent).

Additionally, trend data shows Biden’s standing with white voters in the Badger State — which Trump won by less than 1 point in 2016 — is virtually unchanged since before the conventions and the unrest in Kenosha, regardless of the level of educational attainment: 44 percent of white voters without a college degree prefer Biden compared with 49 percent who said they’d vote for Trump, and Biden continues to hold a large lead over Trump among college-educated whites (59 percent to 38 percent).

Nationally, Biden continues to be on more solid polling ground than Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was four years ago, when she led Trump by 3 points following the conclusion of the national conventions.

The latest survey, conducted Aug. 28-30 among 12,966 likely voters, found Biden 8 points ahead of Trump, 51 percent to 43 percent. That includes a 12-point lead among women (53 percent to 41 percent), an 11-point lead among independent voters (48 percent to 37 percent) and an 11-point lead among voters in the suburbs (52 percent to 41 percent).

The figures, which are nearly identical to polling conducted Aug. 14-16, come after daily tracking of the head-to-head contest showed a narrow improvement in Trump’s standing against Biden on Friday. That post-convention bump proved to be fleeting, with daily tracking on Saturday showing Trump trailing Biden 43 percent to 51 percent and Sunday’s responses putting Biden back to a 9-point lead and 52 percent of the vote. The Saturday and Sunday polling came with respective 2- and 1-point margins of error.

Similarly, movement away from Biden and toward Trump that was detected on Friday among white voters and suburbanites was short-lived, with the three-day survey showing no significant national shifts among those groups.

Compared to 2016, voters are 11 points less likely to be undecided (6 percent now vs. 17 percent then) heading out of the conventions, with just 2 percent of voters saying they’d choose “someone else” over either Biden or Trump.

A slim majority of voters in the latest survey (51 percent) have positive views of Biden, up 3 points since before the two conventions, with 46 percent viewing him unfavorably, down 2 points during the same time. Voter sentiment about Trump is statistically unchanged: A majority (55 percent) have negative views, while 43 percent have positive views.

[quote] It's right after the R convention. This will all come down to the economy and the covid (mis) handling. Trump is doomed if Biden gets out the basement and tells us why he wants to be president. Trump will probably win because he speaks so authoritarian and confident. People respond to that. Biden needs to risk his health among the pandemic and speak to the ppl with urgency. Trump is doing that.

Ma'am why do you let these idiotic Trump trolls bait you with their bullshit. The race is essentially unchanged. Trump still trailing. Every time these trolls post some new bullshit. The pearl clutching and hand wringing starts. Which is why they continue trolling. Cut the Trump bullshit about the "basement."

A lot of lesser known pollsters suddenly coming out with good numbers for Trump. Can we get some expert analysis of these pollsters?

🚨🚨🚨Russian journalists have discovered data from Michigan voter data rolls—including the personal info of 7.6 million Michigan voters—on a Russian hackers’ platform. It also includes voter info from other swing states, including Florida and NC

The last time I went to the presentation I got a free lunch and a timeshare! Screw having my family together! Latinos for Trump! My law and order President! 🤡

R186 See, and once someone of a different race than you has an opinion you disagree with, you immediately turn into as bad a racist as the Trumpers. That’s why people are rolling their eyes at the idea of Democrats being some more moral authority.

R173, those polls are clearly bullshit.

Any minority (racial, religious, sexual, anything) that votes for Trump, is a self-loathing asshole of the highest order.

Trump is a BLATANT straight white male Supremacist. And will violently enforce said supremacy. He's fanning the flames of hatred and violence, trying to stoke a second civil war.

Fuck ANYONE that votes for Trump, but ESPECIALLY anyone who is a minority.

R189, Trump may be fanning the flames but the Dems are setting the fires. These kind of hysterical posts are pointless when we’re stuck with two awful choices. Trump may be incompetent, but many people have legitimate worries about the Democratic Party in its current state having power and they absolutely have a right to be.

This isn’t Freddy vs. The Final Girl. It’s Freddy vs. Jason.

Stop the both sides crap

And Democrats don’t give a flying fuck about gay people. One criminal got killed by a cop and the party has held a four month protest over it. Sixty gay people got shot and there was a few days of media coverage in which the only topic we were allowed to discuss was gun control and we were not even allowed to acknowledge the toxic Islamic brainwashing the perpetrator was subjected too or the consistent violence perpetuated against gays by Muslims. Hell, the party nominee held a rally where the murderer’s father was prominently displayed.

Trump came into office as the first president to support gay rights — not Obama — and actually addressed the violence. The only anti-gay legislation he’s passed doesn’t involve actual gay people. Transgender people on personality altering hormones aren’t allowed to be in the military, just like people on ADHD meds and other mental health prescriptions aren’t able to enlist. And that anti discrimination bill they’re expecting everyone to get bent out of shape essentially boils down to “If you have a penis, you can’t force a doctor to give you a Pap smear.”

Democrats are no longer entitled to the votes of gay men and women. And with the absolute contempt they show for us, it doesn’t seem like they care anyway.

Expect a rude awakening come November.

So in other words Trump is going to lose Arizona by worse numbers that initially thought thanks to Latinos.

The Ruskie trolls are losing the battle

R192, your views are vile dude

Biden hasn't trailed in a SINGLE nat'l poll by an A-B rated pollster in 2020. Clinton trailed in TWELVE by 9/1/16. Just four ties for Biden (two for Clinton), and only one w/undecided factor ≥10% (Atlas 2/3: 45/45); in other words, when leaners break, they break for Biden.

[quote] Trump came into office as the first president to support gay rights — not Obama — and actually addressed the violence.

😂😂😂😂😂

What a 🤡

He’s a nightmare on every front. “Addressed the violence.” 🙄

Not the violence visited on LGBT people from his reich-wing supporters.

At the same point in Obama’s election, he was telling The Advocate he didn’t believe in gay marriage in order to coddle black homophobia. He was a Democrat. Trump went into office supporting gay marriage. Obama didn’t think of us as humans until his daughter watched Glee and that changed his mind.

Let’s not forget what Clinton was doing during this.

Tell us again why Democrats are obligated to the votes of gays and lesbians. It seems they have more interest in supporting the people trying to us kill than they do with us.

Fuck off, deplorable! R198

R197 "Trump went into office supporting gay marriage."

You're such a fucking liar.

Same-sex marriage

In 2000, Trump stated his belief that "marriage is between a man and a woman."[127] Despite this, as a candidate running in the Reform Party in 1999–2000, Trump included support for civil unions in his campaign platform.[148] Trump congratulated singer Elton John on his civil partnership to his same-sex partner in 2005,[149] writing, "It's a marriage that's going to work ... If two people dig each other, they dig each other."[150] Trump did not indicate whether he had changed his political position on marriage or civil unions.

In early 2011, Trump told Greta Van Susteren on Fox News, "I'm probably as conservative as anybody on your show ... I'm Republican, a very conservative Republican ... I'm not in favor of gay marriage."[151] A month later, when asked by the Des Moines Register if gay couples should receive the same benefits as married couples, he said his "attitude on it has not been fully formed" but then responded simply "no."[152][153]

At the beginning of his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump continued to oppose same-sex marriage. In June 2015, when asked about the Obergefell v. Hodges ruling in which the Supreme Court guaranteed the right to same-sex marriage nationwide, he said he personally supported "traditional marriage".[3][154] He added: "I would have preferred states, you know, making the decision...But they [the Supreme Court] made the decision ... So, at a certain point you have to be realistic about it."[155]

In January 2016, when asked about the landmark Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges which had legalized same-sex marriage nationwide, Trump said he would "strongly consider" appointing conservative Supreme Court justices who would overturn the ruling, arguing that it was a matter that should be left for states to decide instead. [156][157][4][158][159][160] The Advocate, an American LGBT-interest magazine, characterized Trump's proposed Supreme Court nominees as "LGBT-unfriendly", noting that "not all have ruled in LGBT rights cases, but those who have are largely unsympathetic, and some have the backing of anti-LGBT activists."[161] A month before the election, Trump wrote to the president of CatholicVote.org to express support for legislation that would protect the religious liberty of Christians who oppose marriage equality.[162]

However, in November 2016, a few days after he was elected president, Trump suggested that he did not, after all, plan to nominate justices who would overturn the Obergefell ruling. He told Lesley Stahl on 60 Minutes his personal view on same-sex marriage was "irrelevant," that he was "fine with" same-sex marriage, and that the Obergefell decision had "settled" the matter[157][163] (though some expressed skepticism that he had really changed his position).[164]

In 2019, his counselor and spokeswoman Kellyanne Conway claimed that he approves of same-sex marriage.[165]

[quote] Obama didn’t think of us as humans until his daughter watched Glee and that changed his mind.

More lies and falsehoods.

Yes, indeed, do fuck off. You’re not changing anyone’s mind to vote for Twitler.

I’m not saying everyone should vote for him. I’m saying that imbeciles like R189 have no leg to stand on when they say that all minorities are obligated to vote blue.

I think it’s reprehensible For any minority to vote Republican.

R202 All humans with any sense of morality are obligated to vote Trump out! Fuck off, you disgusting deplorable facist trash!

I guess that means we should all give up and note vote, right OP?

Idiot.

R198

"Tell us again why Democrats are obligated to the votes of gays and lesbians."

The word that your auto-translator is looking for there is 'entitled', not 'obligated', Boris.

Decent translation otherwise though.

Who Is Likely To Win?

Biden: 36% (-4) Trump: 35% (+4) Both As Likely: 13% (-)

Redfield & Wilton / September 1, 2020 / n=1,835 / Online

(% chg w August 20)

[quote] You'd think with all the anti-Latino/brown people rhetoric, they'd want Trump out of office at any cost. Is it the stimulus check they received?

Frankly, in my experience, Latinos are more racist towards black people than white people are.

If Trump sends another stimulus payment out,he'll have the election on lock.

A lot of people are attracted to the strongman, Alpha male schtick

[quote]Trump may be fanning the flames but the Dems are setting the fires.

R190, that's utter bullshit. Completely false. Utterly ridiculous.

[quote]These kind of hysterical posts are pointless when we’re stuck with two awful choices.

But we DON'T have two awful choices. We have an utterly terrible disastrous choice on one hand, and a good & decent choice on the other.

Side note: We didn't have two awful choices in 2016 either. We had one unqualified, unfit, awful, terrible choice... and a great choice.

[quote]Trump may be incompetent, but many people have legitimate worries about the Democratic Party in its current state having power and they absolutely have a right to be.

I'm just laughing at you now. One side is a proven pathological liar, abusive bully, narcissistic sociopath, criminally corrupt fraud, and traitor... the other side is a good and decent man with good and decent policies, who is fully qualified and experienced. It's not even close.

[quote]This isn’t Freddy vs. The Final Girl. It’s Freddy vs. Jason.

No... it's Fascism vs. Democracy. It's criminally corrupt vs. Decent competency. It's the end of the USA, our freedoms, our environment, our democracy... or the repair of all that has been damaged in the last 4 years.

Again, this is a clear cut, obvious, no-brainer of a choice. It's also an existential choice. It's death vs. life.

[quote]And Democrats don’t give a flying fuck about gay people.

R192, why do you make such empty, blatantly and laughably false assertions? You couldn't be more wrong. Provably so.

It's REPUBLICANS who don't give a flying fuck about gay people. Or anyone who isn't a wealth straight white Christian male.

R197 is the kind of false equivalencies, logical fallacies, and intellectual dishonesty. How fucking stupid ARE you that you actually typed that bullshit with a straight face?

R202, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

New @QuinnipiacPoll

Biden: 52% (+10) Trump: 42%

Among men Biden: 48% (+1) Trump: 47%

Among women Biden: 56% (+17) Trump: 39%

Among whites Trump: 50% (+4) Biden: 46%

Among Blacks Biden: 83% (+72) Trump: 11%

Among Latinos Biden: 56% (+20) Trump: 36%

R209 everybody knows it’s not Trump or the GOP sending those! The man is trash!

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH WHITE MEN?!?

r217 1) Tribalism 2) Victims of Fox News 3) Most Americans really dont get politics. They have no sense of how it works or what good government policy looks like. They have no hopes for improving government.