Adolf Hitler 's Alligator is Dead to Me.
An alligator rumored to have once belonged to Adolf Hitler has died at quite a remarkably old age.
The reptile -- who goes by Saturn -- recently passed away in the care of the Moscow Zoo, which he called home since the 1940s after he was discovered by British soldiers and gifted to the facility shortly thereafter ... once Germany suffered defeat in WWII, of course.
Saturn is actually said to have survived a bombing at the Berlin Zoo back in 1943 -- where he had been living after being shipped there from America in the mid-'30s -- and somehow lived among the ruins until he was found again in 1946. After that, Russia was his new home.
For some reason ... rumors swirled in Moscow that the alligator might've once been part of Hitler's personal collection of exotic animals. The Moscow Zoo says it became an urban legend but doesn't elaborate on why something like that might've even been thought.I
Whatevs ... the scaly creature lived out the rest of its days in Moscow's care, and apparently -- he was a very good, but also cantankerous boy. Of the animal, the Zoo writes ... "He was fussy about food and loved being massaged with a brush. If he didn’t like something, he would gnaw on the concrete decorations." He had a diet of rabbits, rats and fish.
Now, the Zoo doesn't confirm whether the Hitler story is true or not -- the theory could never be proven -- but they do defend Saturn's rep by saying ... regardless of who he might've belonged to, an animal's an animal, and shouldn't be judged by any human action.
The alligator was 84.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/28/2020|
Some people use a dog for protection. But I guess this could scare your enemies away, too. But you better keep it fed well; you wouldn't want it getting hungry around you.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/24/2020|
Is Saturn a Nazi war criminal?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/24/2020|
He had a hot ass but he couldn't live forever.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/24/2020|
Was it suicide? Coronavirus?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/24/2020|
The phrase "who goes by Saturn" keeps cracking me up. It makes it sound like he chose to go by Saturn but that wasn't his birth name.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/24/2020|
Can we do a benefit, like Gator Aid?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/24/2020|
It was the Third Reich. He went by Saturn because his real name was Mort Goldberg.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/24/2020|
R11, was there a final solution to the alligator problem?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/24/2020|
I've read more than my share of Hitler and Nazi literature and this is the first time that I've ever heard of Hitler's keeping a collection of exotic animals. So, I'm skeptical of this alleged association.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/24/2020|
I don't trust Russians to be truthful about anything. This is a lie.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/24/2020|
Coming soon to the History Channel: Nazi Gator
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/24/2020|
I'm surprised that an alligator can survive Russian winters.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/24/2020|
The Russians named him Saturn. To Hitler, he was Jackbootsie Gumdrop
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/24/2020|
The alligator was not Hitler’s private pet. It was just one of many in the zoo in Berlin, having been shipped there from Mississippi in the 30s.
It was one of the few zoo animals that survived the bombing of Berlin in 1945. Most of them died. The British found it as well as a python or anaconda and gave the animals to the Soviets. They shipped the animals back to Moscow, where they were adopted by the zoo.
Originally nicknamed “Hitler” because he was from Berlin, the gator eventually came to be known as Saturn. He was a popular attraction there for an incredible period of time, outlasting the Soviet Union itself and the Cold War. He was a fixture of the zoo so long he outlived many generations of zoo keepers.
Not bad for an immigrant from Mississippi.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/24/2020|
Forgot to mention that Saturn was attacked on multiple occasions by drunken Russian zoo visitors — once so seriously that he hovered on the brink of death for months.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/24/2020|
Keep Hugo Boss away from the body!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/24/2020|
[quote] Forgot to mention that Saturn was attacked on multiple occasions by drunken Russian zoo visitors
How did they attack him? Why do you know so much about Saturn? Tell us more! MORE!
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/24/2020|
Imagine walking through the rubble of a bombed out Berlin and finding an alligator...
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/24/2020|
... and worst of all, being British....
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/24/2020|
I find this story hard to believe.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/24/2020|
See you später, alligator.
After a "Heil", crocodile.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/24/2020|
The zoo is in Berlin’s Tiergarten city park, in an area that was once the hunting area for the Elector of Brandenburg. (Like Hyde Park was once Henry VIII’s hunting ground.)
Immediately after the war, the starving Berliners ate many of the surviving zoo animals. They also denuded the park of trees for firewood, to keep from freezing. The park today has many mature trees and does not show obvious signs of having been reforested only 70 years ago.
At 6:30 in the link, is a momentary shot of the zoo in 1936, featuring an elephant who was no doubt delicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/24/2020|
[quote] Immediately after the war, the starving Berliners ate many of the surviving zoo animals.
How did the alligator find things to eat? Was it eating dead people?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/24/2020|
Why didn’t they bring him to a more civilized European country? Poor gator getting attacked by drunks
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/24/2020|
Custody of the Alligator was decided at Yalta.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/24/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/24/2020|
Wikipedia's got all the answers!
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/24/2020|
How could an alligator survive wandering around Berlin for three winters from 1943 to 1946?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/24/2020|
Hitler had 2 pet dogs named Blondie and Dagwood. However, Blondie was the male and Dagwood was the female. Don't ask - this is Hitler we're talking about.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/24/2020|
Was he large enough to have a nice matching set of luggage made out of him?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/24/2020|
Mel Brooks is busy rewriting "The Producers" to add a song for the gator.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/24/2020|
Perhaps the alligator was living in the sewers?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/24/2020|
Secret Alligators of the SS, tomorrow night on the History Channel!
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/24/2020|
The story about him roaming the streets of Berlin really makes me think there’s may be truth to a lot of the cryptological sightings across the world. Like panthers in England
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/24/2020|
I’ve really grown to love this alligator over the course of this thread. Rip Saturn. He was a survivor
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/24/2020|
Gators can go up to three years without eating.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/24/2020|
When he opened his mouth a purse fell out.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/24/2020|
[quote]Gators can go up to three years without eating.
Wow! I can't even go three MINUTES!
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/24/2020|
[quote]Gators can go up to three years without eating.
Bless The Beasts And The Children!
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/24/2020|
Second interesting thread today. Thanks op
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/24/2020|
Why didn't Hitler just buy the zoo??
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/24/2020|
[quote] Keep Hugo Boss away from the body!
I really HOPE you mean, “because he’ll make a wallet out of it.”
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/24/2020|
I know Russian drunks are mean, but beating up an alligator!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/25/2020|
[quote] Gators can go up to three years without eating.
According to the Wikipedia article, Saturn got depressed and went four months without eating and almost died.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/25/2020|
See you later, alligator.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/25/2020|
80 years from now: "A sloth rumored to have once belonged to Donald Trump has died at quite a remarkably old age."
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/25/2020|
84 years in a zoo.... pretty impressive. Sounds like he had a good life
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/25/2020|
[quote]80 years from now: "A sloth rumored to have once belonged to Donald Trump has died at quite a remarkably old age."
Do you think Barron will live that long?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/25/2020|
[quote] Do you think Barron will live that long?
In captivity the retard can live a long happy life.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/25/2020|
When Katrina left the New Orleans Aquarium abandoned, as I recall, most of their wildlife died, but the author wrote that there was hope for the alligators, since they can basically hibernate if it gets too cold, even below freezing; or food is too scarce. I’d guess they don’t do well if it gets too hot, though.
Berlin must really have been a nightmare in 1945.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/25/2020|
What's the difference between alligators and crocodiles?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/27/2020|
The skulls are significantly different, R64 - put simply, alligators have broader heads.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/27/2020|
[quote]Adolf Hitler 's Alligator is Dead to Me.
Definitely in the running for best Datalounge thread title of all time.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/27/2020|
[quote] When Russian tanks were moving down the Garden Ring during the 1993 constitutional crisis, Saturn cried out because of the vibrations, which a zookeeper thinks reminded him of the Battle of Berlin.
[quote] In the 1950s, the United States gave the Soviet Union a younger, female alligator as a gift. She was named Shipka, and she and Saturn began mating, but they did not produce any offspring as all of Shipka’s eggs were infertile. Shipka, who was thirteen years younger than Saturn, later died, and Saturn was so distressed by her death that he refused food for a time.
Aww. He sounds quite emo for an alligator.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/27/2020|
God needed another Nazi Gator
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/27/2020|
If he had actually belonged to Hitler, you just know Israeli nazi hunters would have been all over this. Think “Saturn in Jerusalem”.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/27/2020|
WW for the thread title alone. This thread is a balm to my soul at this depressing moment in time... 😂😂😂
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/27/2020|
"How could an alligator survive wandering around Berlin for three winters from 1943 to 1946? "
Russian Lamb coats, Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/27/2020|
Alligators are much more cold-tolerant than crocodiles. There are only two species of Alligators: the American alligator and the highly endangered Chinese alligator. The oldest recorded American alligator at the Cincinnati Zoo was 'Tojo', who was supposedly 81 when he died. I remember looking for him every time we'd visit the Zoo. Alligators are known to be protective mothers to their hatchlings. Auf verschiedene, Saturn.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/27/2020|
Alligators in the snow (captive) in Colorado.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/27/2020|
They always look so happy
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/27/2020|
[quote]The oldest recorded American alligator at the Cincinnati Zoo was 'Tojo', who was supposedly 81 when he died. I remember looking for him every time we'd visit the Zoo.
Tojo AND Hitler? Didn't Mussolini have any pet reptiles?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||05/28/2020|
Mussolini had a pet Narwhal named Walter.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/28/2020|
That gator don’t got nuthin’ on Robert Clive’s pet turtle Adwaita - he outlived not only Clive, but the Raj itself!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/28/2020|
I’ve never been a fan of alligators until now. “Saturn“ was a beautiful color.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/28/2020|