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Adolf Hitler 's Alligator is Dead to Me.

An alligator rumored to have once belonged to Adolf Hitler has died at quite a remarkably old age.

The reptile -- who goes by Saturn -- recently passed away in the care of the Moscow Zoo, which he called home since the 1940s after he was discovered by British soldiers and gifted to the facility shortly thereafter ... once Germany suffered defeat in WWII, of course.

Saturn is actually said to have survived a bombing at the Berlin Zoo back in 1943 -- where he had been living after being shipped there from America in the mid-'30s -- and somehow lived among the ruins until he was found again in 1946. After that, Russia was his new home.

For some reason ... rumors swirled in Moscow that the alligator might've once been part of Hitler's personal collection of exotic animals. The Moscow Zoo says it became an urban legend but doesn't elaborate on why something like that might've even been thought.I

Whatevs ... the scaly creature lived out the rest of its days in Moscow's care, and apparently -- he was a very good, but also cantankerous boy. Of the animal, the Zoo writes ... "He was fussy about food and loved being massaged with a brush. If he didn’t like something, he would gnaw on the concrete decorations." He had a diet of rabbits, rats and fish.

Now, the Zoo doesn't confirm whether the Hitler story is true or not -- the theory could never be proven -- but they do defend Saturn's rep by saying ... regardless of who he might've belonged to, an animal's an animal, and shouldn't be judged by any human action.

The alligator was 84.

RIP?

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by Anonymousreply 7805/28/2020

Some people use a dog for protection. But I guess this could scare your enemies away, too. But you better keep it fed well; you wouldn't want it getting hungry around you.

by Anonymousreply 105/24/2020

Is Saturn a Nazi war criminal?

by Anonymousreply 205/24/2020

Mein Fuhrer!

by Anonymousreply 305/24/2020

He was cute

by Anonymousreply 405/24/2020

He had a hot ass but he couldn't live forever.

by Anonymousreply 505/24/2020

Saturn bought the zoo!

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by Anonymousreply 605/24/2020

So young.

by Anonymousreply 705/24/2020

Was it suicide? Coronavirus?

by Anonymousreply 805/24/2020

The phrase "who goes by Saturn" keeps cracking me up. It makes it sound like he chose to go by Saturn but that wasn't his birth name.

by Anonymousreply 905/24/2020

Can we do a benefit, like Gator Aid?

by Anonymousreply 1005/24/2020

It was the Third Reich. He went by Saturn because his real name was Mort Goldberg.

by Anonymousreply 1105/24/2020

R11, was there a final solution to the alligator problem?

by Anonymousreply 1205/24/2020

What was on his i-Pod?

Crocodile Reich

by Anonymousreply 1305/24/2020

I've read more than my share of Hitler and Nazi literature and this is the first time that I've ever heard of Hitler's keeping a collection of exotic animals. So, I'm skeptical of this alleged association.

by Anonymousreply 1405/24/2020

I don't trust Russians to be truthful about anything. This is a lie.

by Anonymousreply 1505/24/2020

Coming soon to the History Channel: Nazi Gator

by Anonymousreply 1605/24/2020

I'm surprised that an alligator can survive Russian winters.

by Anonymousreply 1705/24/2020

The Russians named him Saturn. To Hitler, he was Jackbootsie Gumdrop

by Anonymousreply 1805/24/2020

The alligator was not Hitler’s private pet. It was just one of many in the zoo in Berlin, having been shipped there from Mississippi in the 30s.

It was one of the few zoo animals that survived the bombing of Berlin in 1945. Most of them died. The British found it as well as a python or anaconda and gave the animals to the Soviets. They shipped the animals back to Moscow, where they were adopted by the zoo.

Originally nicknamed “Hitler” because he was from Berlin, the gator eventually came to be known as Saturn. He was a popular attraction there for an incredible period of time, outlasting the Soviet Union itself and the Cold War. He was a fixture of the zoo so long he outlived many generations of zoo keepers.

Not bad for an immigrant from Mississippi.

by Anonymousreply 1905/24/2020

Forgot to mention that Saturn was attacked on multiple occasions by drunken Russian zoo visitors — once so seriously that he hovered on the brink of death for months.

by Anonymousreply 2005/24/2020

Keep Hugo Boss away from the body!

by Anonymousreply 2105/24/2020

[quote] Forgot to mention that Saturn was attacked on multiple occasions by drunken Russian zoo visitors

How did they attack him? Why do you know so much about Saturn? Tell us more! MORE!

by Anonymousreply 2205/24/2020

Imagine walking through the rubble of a bombed out Berlin and finding an alligator...

by Anonymousreply 2305/24/2020

... and worst of all, being British....

by Anonymousreply 2405/24/2020

I find this story hard to believe.

by Anonymousreply 2505/24/2020

See you später, alligator.

After a "Heil", crocodile.

by Anonymousreply 2605/24/2020

The zoo is in Berlin’s Tiergarten city park, in an area that was once the hunting area for the Elector of Brandenburg. (Like Hyde Park was once Henry VIII’s hunting ground.)

Immediately after the war, the starving Berliners ate many of the surviving zoo animals. They also denuded the park of trees for firewood, to keep from freezing. The park today has many mature trees and does not show obvious signs of having been reforested only 70 years ago.

At 6:30 in the link, is a momentary shot of the zoo in 1936, featuring an elephant who was no doubt delicious.

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by Anonymousreply 2705/24/2020

[quote] Immediately after the war, the starving Berliners ate many of the surviving zoo animals.

How did the alligator find things to eat? Was it eating dead people?

by Anonymousreply 2805/24/2020

Why didn’t they bring him to a more civilized European country? Poor gator getting attacked by drunks

by Anonymousreply 2905/24/2020

Custody of the Alligator was decided at Yalta.

by Anonymousreply 3005/24/2020

M-i-s-s-i-s-s-i-p-p heil!

by Anonymousreply 3105/24/2020

Wikipedia's got all the answers!

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by Anonymousreply 3205/24/2020

How could an alligator survive wandering around Berlin for three winters from 1943 to 1946?

by Anonymousreply 3305/24/2020

Hitler had 2 pet dogs named Blondie and Dagwood. However, Blondie was the male and Dagwood was the female. Don't ask - this is Hitler we're talking about.

by Anonymousreply 3405/24/2020

Was he large enough to have a nice matching set of luggage made out of him?

by Anonymousreply 3505/24/2020

Mel Brooks is busy rewriting "The Producers" to add a song for the gator.

by Anonymousreply 3605/24/2020

Perhaps the alligator was living in the sewers?

by Anonymousreply 3705/24/2020

Secret Alligators of the SS, tomorrow night on the History Channel!

by Anonymousreply 3805/24/2020

The story about him roaming the streets of Berlin really makes me think there’s may be truth to a lot of the cryptological sightings across the world. Like panthers in England

by Anonymousreply 3905/24/2020

So young.

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by Anonymousreply 4005/24/2020

Will he be canonized?

by Anonymousreply 4105/24/2020

I’ve really grown to love this alligator over the course of this thread. Rip Saturn. He was a survivor

by Anonymousreply 4205/24/2020

Gators can go up to three years without eating.

by Anonymousreply 4305/24/2020

When he opened his mouth a purse fell out.

by Anonymousreply 4405/24/2020

[quote]Gators can go up to three years without eating.

Wow! I can't even go three MINUTES!

by Anonymousreply 4505/24/2020

[quote]Gators can go up to three years without eating.

Bless The Beasts And The Children!

by Anonymousreply 4605/24/2020

Second interesting thread today. Thanks op

by Anonymousreply 4705/24/2020

Agree, this is a delight

by Anonymousreply 4805/24/2020

Why didn't Hitler just buy the zoo??

by Anonymousreply 4905/24/2020

[quote] Keep Hugo Boss away from the body!

I really HOPE you mean, “because he’ll make a wallet out of it.”

by Anonymousreply 5005/24/2020

I know Russian drunks are mean, but beating up an alligator!

by Anonymousreply 5105/25/2020

[quote] Gators can go up to three years without eating.

According to the Wikipedia article, Saturn got depressed and went four months without eating and almost died.

by Anonymousreply 5205/25/2020

See you later, alligator.

by Anonymousreply 5305/25/2020

80 years from now: "A sloth rumored to have once belonged to Donald Trump has died at quite a remarkably old age."

by Anonymousreply 5405/25/2020

Alligators are ugly.

by Anonymousreply 5505/25/2020

84 years in a zoo.... pretty impressive. Sounds like he had a good life

by Anonymousreply 5605/25/2020

[quote]80 years from now: "A sloth rumored to have once belonged to Donald Trump has died at quite a remarkably old age."

Do you think Barron will live that long?

by Anonymousreply 5705/25/2020

[quote] Do you think Barron will live that long?

In captivity the retard can live a long happy life.

by Anonymousreply 5805/25/2020

When Katrina left the New Orleans Aquarium abandoned, as I recall, most of their wildlife died, but the author wrote that there was hope for the alligators, since they can basically hibernate if it gets too cold, even below freezing; or food is too scarce. I’d guess they don’t do well if it gets too hot, though.

Berlin must really have been a nightmare in 1945.

by Anonymousreply 5905/25/2020

Oh, snap!

by Anonymousreply 6005/25/2020

Now I want an alligator!

by Anonymousreply 6105/25/2020
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by Anonymousreply 6205/25/2020

My condolences...

by Anonymousreply 6305/26/2020

What's the difference between alligators and crocodiles?

by Anonymousreply 6405/27/2020

The skulls are significantly different, R64 - put simply, alligators have broader heads.

by Anonymousreply 6505/27/2020

[quote]Adolf Hitler 's Alligator is Dead to Me.

Definitely in the running for best Datalounge thread title of all time.

by Anonymousreply 6605/27/2020

[quote] When Russian tanks were moving down the Garden Ring during the 1993 constitutional crisis, Saturn cried out because of the vibrations, which a zookeeper thinks reminded him of the Battle of Berlin.[11]

[quote] In the 1950s, the United States gave the Soviet Union a younger, female alligator as a gift.[3][11] She was named Shipka, and she and Saturn began mating, but they did not produce any offspring as all of Shipka’s eggs were infertile.[3][11] Shipka, who was thirteen years younger than Saturn, later died, and Saturn was so distressed by her death that he refused food for a time.

Aww. He sounds quite emo for an alligator.

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by Anonymousreply 6705/27/2020

God needed another Nazi Gator

by Anonymousreply 6805/27/2020

If he had actually belonged to Hitler, you just know Israeli nazi hunters would have been all over this. Think “Saturn in Jerusalem”.

by Anonymousreply 6905/27/2020

WW for the thread title alone. This thread is a balm to my soul at this depressing moment in time... 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 7005/27/2020

"How could an alligator survive wandering around Berlin for three winters from 1943 to 1946? "

Russian Lamb coats, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 7105/27/2020

Alligators are much more cold-tolerant than crocodiles. There are only two species of Alligators: the American alligator and the highly endangered Chinese alligator. The oldest recorded American alligator at the Cincinnati Zoo was 'Tojo', who was supposedly 81 when he died. I remember looking for him every time we'd visit the Zoo. Alligators are known to be protective mothers to their hatchlings. Auf verschiedene, Saturn.

by Anonymousreply 7205/27/2020

Alligators in the snow (captive) in Colorado.

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by Anonymousreply 7305/27/2020

They always look so happy

by Anonymousreply 7405/27/2020

[quote]The oldest recorded American alligator at the Cincinnati Zoo was 'Tojo', who was supposedly 81 when he died. I remember looking for him every time we'd visit the Zoo.

Tojo AND Hitler? Didn't Mussolini have any pet reptiles?

by Anonymousreply 7505/28/2020

Mussolini had a pet Narwhal named Walter.

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by Anonymousreply 7605/28/2020

That gator don’t got nuthin’ on Robert Clive’s pet turtle Adwaita - he outlived not only Clive, but the Raj itself!

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by Anonymousreply 7705/28/2020

I’ve never been a fan of alligators until now. “Saturn“ was a beautiful color.

by Anonymousreply 7805/28/2020
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