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“Defending Jacob” Apple TV+ Original Series starring Chris Evans

I just bought myself a new Apple TV and they gave me Apple TV+ free for one year. It’s surprisingly good! It’s about a kid who gets murdered on his way to school, and Evans is on the case to find the murderer, only his son (Jaeden Martell) becomes the main suspect. It’s set in a Boston Suburb. Michelle Dockery plays his wife.

It’s actually quite good. It’s probably the best acting I’ve seen from Evans.

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by Anonymousreply 86Last Saturday at 12:10 AM

I'm watching this, I like it but I don't like the mother.

by Anonymousreply 105/02/2020

A character played by someone named Jaeden deserves the chair.

by Anonymousreply 205/02/2020

I didn’t care for her in episode 1 but she was good in 2 and 3. R1

by Anonymousreply 305/02/2020

The show really kicks in gear in the 3rd episode.

I want to slam the kid's head into a wall. He was just as insufferable in KNIVES OUT.

by Anonymousreply 405/02/2020

I can’t believe that any child of Captain America would ever commit a random murder. I also can’t believe that any child of Lady Mary would ever stop at one.

by Anonymousreply 505/02/2020

R4 he was better in the IT Movies

by Anonymousreply 605/02/2020

They look too young and pretty to have a 13-year-old son.

by Anonymousreply 705/02/2020

Both Evans and Dockery are 38 years old.

So they very well could have a 14 year old son.

by Anonymousreply 805/02/2020

They obviously could have a child that age, but it’s more of a class thing. His character is a lawyer and I think hers studied art history, and those types don’t tend to start families until they’re closer to thirty, at the earliest.

by Anonymousreply 905/02/2020

R9 Doesn’t mean ALL.

by Anonymousreply 1005/02/2020

True, R10, and if I remember correctly they do mention how she got pregnant while he was in law school, as if the show felt the need to address it.

The show doesn’t do much for Dockery at the start, but the fourth episode is a really great showcase for her, especially the diner scene,

by Anonymousreply 1105/02/2020

R11 I just finished episode 3 and she is fantastic as she slowly derails.

by Anonymousreply 1205/02/2020

Chris Evans needs to stay blond.

by Anonymousreply 1305/02/2020

I like him with darker hair. Either way, he's super handsome, especially with a beard.

by Anonymousreply 1405/02/2020

He’s naturally brunette and looks better with it.

by Anonymousreply 1505/02/2020

I think the beard is a little much and his coloring a bit too severe in this. Gifted was a better example of a similar look for him.

by Anonymousreply 1605/02/2020

He’s playing a father whose 14 year old son is on trial for a murder. He isn’t gonna look a 10. They have makeup on him during the court room scenes to look exhausted and distraught.

He looks great still!!!!

by Anonymousreply 1705/02/2020

I agree with the comment above about the actors being too young to play well off parents. Yes, people have children young but this trend of casting 30 something's as upper middle class parents of teens has become absurd.

by Anonymousreply 1805/02/2020

You’ve never met a 38 year old with money? Weird.

I’ve met 28 year olds that are upper middle class.

by Anonymousreply 1905/02/2020

R19 Of course I have but the type of couples with college degrees and careers generally have children in their 30s. The ones born to wealth will sometimes have kids earlier but not the ones who had to establish themselves first. My point is not that they couldn't possibly be his parents but that casting of actors of Evans and Dockerys' age is statistically over represented. Having both Dockery and Evans be working class would have been more realistic.

by Anonymousreply 2005/02/2020

I actually find it is usually people who can’t afford to have kids that have kids. And usually young.

by Anonymousreply 2105/02/2020

Different people have kids at different ages, there is no set age for anything.

The mother acknowledged that she got pregnant while Andy was in Law School, so he wasn't planned.

Dockery is phenomenal in episodes 3 and 4.

by Anonymousreply 2205/02/2020

Caught up. It is very good. I am sad it is only like 8 episodes total. Evans and Dockery are doing great! Martell not so much.

by Anonymousreply 2305/02/2020

I’m conflicted about Martell. He’s supposed to be exasperating to some extent, but I can’t decide whether I’m responding to the character or his performance.

by Anonymousreply 2405/02/2020

Probably his performance r24. He’s pretty limited.

by Anonymousreply 2505/02/2020

Evans is killing it

by Anonymousreply 2605/03/2020

I cant wait for the new episode tomorrow

by Anonymousreply 2705/07/2020

Even though I fancy Jaeden, I still can't get over one of the most exhausting actresses ever, Michelle Dockery. She just ruins everything she is in.

by Anonymousreply 2805/07/2020

You fancy a 15 year old????

by Anonymousreply 2905/07/2020

Evans nude or barefoot in it ?

by Anonymousreply 3005/07/2020

No nudity. There is no need for nudity in a show about a 14 year old being murdered in broad daylight and another 14 year old being the main suspect 🙄🙄🙄

by Anonymousreply 3105/07/2020

So? Did he do it?

by Anonymousreply 3205/07/2020

Upper middle-class parents of teenagers often look old enough to be the kids' grandparents. They don't start having kids until their late 30s these days.

by Anonymousreply 3305/07/2020

Again, not everyone is the same. Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 3405/07/2020

They’re not upper middle class. They have a relatively small house in rich town. He works for the county; she works for a non-profit.

Having said that, I’m not sure where his Audi fits in. He’s obviously not from a wealthy family. We don’t know much about her family.

by Anonymousreply 3505/07/2020

There is always a need for nudity when Chris Evans is involved

by Anonymousreply 3605/07/2020

He never does nudity.

by Anonymousreply 3705/07/2020

R10, it’s based on a book, so you could find out the answer if you wanted.

I don’t know the actual answer, but I’m leaning toward no at this point. The two other kids probably factor in, since their roles seem larger than they should be, if they’re irrelevant to the plot.

by Anonymousreply 3805/07/2020

Episode 5 was pretty good. It went by very fast.

JK Simmons as the dad is perfect.

by Anonymousreply 3905/08/2020

What is the framing mystery? Why us Andy testifying at a grand jury AFTER the trial? It must be another case involving the same facts.

Speculation only. No spoilers from novel.

by Anonymousreply 4005/08/2020

[quote]You fancy a 15 year old????

He's 17 now, legal in the UK. DUH! But the series is shit boring anyway.

by Anonymousreply 4105/09/2020

Moving too slowly. Better as a binge.

by Anonymousreply 4205/09/2020

[quote]JK Simmons as the dad is perfect.

I loved it. It was as if he slid right back into his "Oz" character Vern Schillinger. Bastard through and through.

by Anonymousreply 4305/09/2020

R40 telling you would be giving it away

R37

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by Anonymousreply 4405/09/2020

R44 that is once, in 2001? For his first movie role.

He hasn’t done nudity since. He uses an ass double.

by Anonymousreply 4505/09/2020

Still not never. And I busted many nuts to it long before he became Captain America

by Anonymousreply 4605/09/2020

He agreed to the “nudity” in Not Another Teen Movie because it wasn’t even real nudity. You still don’t see his bare ass.

And I doubt a man your age was jerking off to that.

by Anonymousreply 4705/09/2020

Chris Evans is good in this.

by Anonymousreply 4805/12/2020

He was naked in that movie with Anna Farris.

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by Anonymousreply 4905/12/2020

R49 the ass shot was a double

by Anonymousreply 5005/12/2020

In the present court room scenes, they talk about the mother in the past tense. So I’m guessing she’s dead.

POTENTIAL SPOILER

Plus as per Apple’s leaked internal memo to production staff at Apple TV, bad people can’t be seen to using Apple products. The only two that haven’t used them So far is the pedophile and the Asian school boy. So clearly the Asian boy is the killer.

by Anonymousreply 5105/12/2020

R50 well that's disappointing.

by Anonymousreply 5205/12/2020

R51, it was Rian Johnson who revealed that about his movie Knives Out, the other murder mystery with Chris Evans and Jaeden Martell.

by Anonymousreply 5305/12/2020

I've really been enjoying it. Some great acting by both of the leads, although I did have to laugh at someone who is a d.a. handling a potential murder weapon with his bare hands.

by Anonymousreply 5405/12/2020

I can't imagine anything worth spending the money on Apple TV.

by Anonymousreply 5505/12/2020

Apple TV is only $5

by Anonymousreply 5605/12/2020

R55 Apple has been giving away a free year when you purchase any device.

by Anonymousreply 5705/12/2020

If you don't know how to watch everything for free by now, you're hopeless.

by Anonymousreply 5805/12/2020

Only allowing the good guys to use apple devices is completely the sort of logic Apple would use. Totally believable that they would mandate this without any wider thinking of how this would impact story telling.

by Anonymousreply 5905/12/2020

It hasn’t been a problem for the past thirteen years, since it looks like no one figured it out before Johnson revealed it. It’ll really just affect mysteries where the identity of the villain is unknown.

by Anonymousreply 6005/12/2020

Most movies and shows only use Androids anyway.

by Anonymousreply 6105/12/2020

R60 I am referring specifically to Apple TV produced content - not about promotional consideration for other shows / Movies.

by Anonymousreply 6205/12/2020

You should you check out Mythic Quest, OP! It’s truly hysterical

by Anonymousreply 6305/12/2020

R63 that is on Apple TV?

by Anonymousreply 6405/12/2020

Yes

by Anonymousreply 6505/12/2020

Stealing is not my idea of getting stuff for free.

by Anonymousreply 6605/12/2020

Streaming isn't stealing.

by Anonymousreply 6705/12/2020

Streaming without paying is stealing, unless it’s a trial or promotion.

by Anonymousreply 6805/12/2020

Just torrenting the first episode to see if you'd like this boring shitshow first, then buy it if you would. It's so moribund and comatose like Michelle has sucked the life out of it.

by Anonymousreply 6905/12/2020

Really, R69? You go to all the effort to download the torrent, then pay?

Anyway, you can’t buy it. It’s for Apple TV+ subscribers.

by Anonymousreply 7005/13/2020

Apple TV+ costs $5.

by Anonymousreply 7105/13/2020

It’s Friday... you know what that means... NEW EPISODE

by Anonymousreply 7205/15/2020

Does Michelle Dockery use an American accent? How good is she at it?

by Anonymousreply 7305/15/2020

R73 shes good.

by Anonymousreply 7405/15/2020

New ep is up.

by Anonymousreply 7505/15/2020

I'm loving it.

by Anonymousreply 7605/15/2020

R76 me too. I look forward to watching it every Friday. Although today I didn’t get to, so tomorrow lol.

Still haven’t seen the new episode of Mrs. America

by Anonymousreply 7705/15/2020

I imagine the mom was mentally packing her bags the moment the shrink told her that the kid doesn't have the murder gene, which is apparently only inherited from the mother's side, but has all the other sociopath DNA stuff he could get from his father's side. She can leave the mess of a family life and start new somewhere else without all the dark baggage of her husband and son.

The spoiler deduction of who the murderer might be, at r51, is hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 78Last Thursday at 11:33 AM

Man, I would've slapped the kid so hard for posting the murder story only a few days after the murder happened and keep it a secret until it came out in the trial.

by Anonymousreply 79Last Friday at 2:16 AM

Has Jaeden presented dong or even armpits yet?

by Anonymousreply 80Last Friday at 3:24 AM

Would it be too obvious for the grandfather to have hired the hit man (who is stalking the family) to pressure the creep into admitting the murder to get the kid off the hook?

by Anonymousreply 81Last Friday at 9:23 AM

I feel like mom is about to run away. She clearly can’t handle this pressure.

Chris Evans is doing a phenomenal job. Very impressed with him.

Jaeden is terrible.

by Anonymousreply 82Last Friday at 4:59 PM

R80 He's fifteen, you pedo!

by Anonymousreply 83Last Friday at 8:23 PM

R82 Jaeden got acclaim from The New York Times and others. His role is very difficult and he's doing a fine job.

by Anonymousreply 84Last Friday at 8:24 PM

He speaks like he is 5 years old. He can’t deliver a line without sounding like a toddler. He also has one facial expression.

by Anonymousreply 85Last Friday at 8:31 PM

I want to strangle that little shit so bad. The parents are pretty decent, and yet he drags them into more shit by keeping secrets that come out in the worst possible times. Of course there would be almost no story if the kid would've come forward right away and had the smarts to not post that admission of murder or murder fantasy.

by Anonymousreply 86Last Saturday at 12:10 AM
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