Bloomberg is running the "Death Star" of presidential campaigns

One argument for Bloomberg is that he'll be able to run a huge turnout operation in the fall of 2020 that will help a lot down ballot.

R1, Aren't you concerned that all of this expenditure on campaigning, when some are worried about a possible recession in 2020 and trying to limit their own spending, will turn a lot of voters completely off?

I live in a super Tuesday state and his annoying ads are on constantly. And now Sanders is also polluting my TV.

[quote] Bloomberg employs more — much more — staff than any other candidate, and pays them unusually well. And not only that, he offers them three meals a day and iPhone 11s.

The monster!

How can this cruelty be stopped?

R4, that sounds like the free stuff that Bernie wants to give away.

He needs to chill and focus more on something different than merely flooding the airwaves. I'm already so sick of his nonstop ads that I'm beginning to hate him rather than just dislike him because he's a racist, sexist lifelong Republican who's going to do a leveraged buyout of the DNC.

Trump 2.0.

Gross. Wasting all of this money is not impressing me.

Calling Bloomberg "Trump 2.0" is facile and misses the unique awfulness of Trump. On so many issues Bloomberg is significantly better than Trump.

[quote] On so many issues Bloomberg is significantly better than Trump.

And so many of the other candidates are significantly better than Trump. Which is why I'd much rather vote for them.

Any of the other candidates will be absolutely destroyed and crushed by Trump and the Republican machine, R10. They've already destroyed Biden, and if Bernie gets the nomination, Republicans will saturate the airwaves about a communist/socialist wants to run the USA. And as far a Mayor Pete goes, I agree with Fran Leborwitz: I wouldn't want him head of my condo president much less the President of the USA. If you think that's a brutal assessment, wait till you see what Republicans have in store for him.

R11 is 100 percent right.

[quote] Any of the other candidates will be absolutely destroyed and crushed by Trump and the Republican machine,

I don't buy this line from the Bloomberg campaign. In fact, I think it's a bullshit line that they stole from the Biden camp. I don't need this latecomer Bloomberg camp waving their obscene wads of billions at me and telling me that they are the only ones capable of beating Trump, when he hasn't even shown his face at a debate or town hall.

So will Bernie lose to Trump Dukakis-style, or Mondale/McGovern-style?

[quote]I don't need this latecomer Bloomberg camp waving their obscene wads of billions at me and telling me that they are the only ones capable of beating Trump, when he hasn't even shown his face at a debate or town hall.

He's above all that, you know.

George McGovern/John Danforth-style, R14. In other words, a rout of historic proportions.

"when he hasn't even shown his face at a debate or town hall."

The whole process has been a long, drawn out farce that needs to be stopped dead in its tracks. These debates and these small state primaries/caucuses are complete and total bullshit and only serve to make the candidates more vulnerable than they already are.

Bloomy is out to Dump tRump, however that happens.

Thats his focus. I see nothing wrong with that.

R14, Mondale and McGovern each only won 1 state plus D.C. So a Bernie loss is more likely to be like Dukakis's in 1988, who won 10 states plus DC, maybe add on a few more states.

I gave Bloomy's campaign my phone and email. They were right on top of it asking if I wanted to do volunteering. I told them that I would wait til after the convention, after everything shakes out. My neighborhood went very heavily for Trump and I could easily see canvassing for Bloomberg around here. He would *not* be a tough sell, imo.

What does this tell you! A person who is so above it all and can do anything fucking thing he wants and does do it, isn't what we want for president. We already have one of those. With his power and money he will pay to destroy government programs faster than anyone ever could. He will buy off anyone to do his bidding. He is more dangerous than Trump because he does have a working brain and SO much more money. The only reason he is for clean air is that the evil rich have to breathe too.

I did the same R19, on Saturday, and got an email from the Bloomberg campaign today asking if I would volunteer.

[quote] A person who is so above it all and can do anything fucking thing he wants and does do it, isn't what we want for president. We already have one of those

But this one isn't insane. That's a big difference.

Like Trump, Bloomberg refuses to release his tax returns and any assessments of his health.

Bloomberg is 5'8" and has a speech impediment.

R22 spot on. Those who say Bloomy is just another Trump do not understand or appreciate how uniquely awful Trump is.

The super rich, including the Hollywood elite got Bloomberg to run. Why are they and corporations and Wall Street and the entire 1% so terrified of Bernie if as so many here claim, Bernie can't get elected or get anything done. If that were true the 1% would have nothing to fear. Those who might not be quite 1% but have plenty, lots of posters here, would have nothing to fear. But yet you're all scared shit because you know Bernie can beat Trump and he can accomplish what he says he will. Why do you so fear the poor and near poor having just a little. How will it hurt you, even if you end up paying a fraction of 1% more in taxes. Does it so bother you to live in a world where there is less suffering. Do you somehow feel superior only if there are many under you? If so you should be examining your own motives for all the Bernie hate. I used to think it was just antisemitism but it goes so far beyond that.

All his money won’t make him tall.....trump will BURY This little silver spoon rodent mini Mike was an investment banker.his money was handed to him from his parents correct Trump had money handed to him also but he’s lost it and remade it several times something that mini Mike would never be able to do .it’s called street smarts and that pampered a little bitch doesn’t have it .Trump has it and he’ll wipe the floor with him and it’ll be fun to watch

Reading the OP's post, I was remembering reading how Hillary Clinton, who was buddies with kazillionaire Bezos at the time, was paying her staff peanuts, didn't give a fuck where they stayed when they campaigned for her (suggesting they sleep on some volunteer's couch if they could) and all in all, despite her own (and Bill's) huge fortune was a cheap bitch when it came to paying the people who were campaigning for her.

So, I'm not going to attack Bloomberg's paying fair wages.

WTF is wrong with some of you?

R27 makes no sense and is factually inaccurate.

I'm in a heavily Russian neighborhood. They admire people who have money. Sanders is a non starter around here.

R27, what?! Trump is not an accomplished businessman when you look closely, c'mon. How many times did he declare bankruptcy? Bloomberg came from a very modest background, are you for real??

Street smarts!

R30 touches on something that's important to acknowledge. Americans, as a whole, like people who have been successful. Just look how much attention gets showered on wealthy celebrities including business people like Bezos, Gates, Buffett, Zuckerburg, Musk, etc. The "screw the rich" message from Bernie will turn people off that would otherwise vote for a Democrat for president.

Please read the linked article written by a NYC journalist.

[quote] Bloomberg is 5'8" and has a speech impediment.

Berniebro, if that's the best you can throw at the American people right now you'll have to try much harder.

An order of magnitude worse than Trump. Mike supporters need to pull their heads out of their asses.

R33 That article is sickening.

It's exciting.

"I'm Mike Bloomberg and I paid for this thread."

R36, I agree it is sickening. It was posted on LSA, and one of the reasons why I daily skim that site despite its obvious deficiencies.

R27 has drunk the Trump Kool-Aid and is now suffering the very serious consequences, just like every one of his idiotic fanbois/fangurls.

After the death of Pertinax, the army put the empire up for auction (!). Didius Julianus made the highest bid and was proclaimed emperor in AD 193.Didius Julianus would gain historical notoriety only for the means by which he became emperor, by winning the bidding at what has been called the "Auction of the Empire." scene became that of an auction, with Flavius Sulpicianus and Didius Julianus outbidding each other in the size of their donatives to the troops. The Roman empire was for sale to the highest bidder. When Flavius Sulpicianus reached the figure of 20,000 sesterces per soldier, Didius Julianus upped the bid by a whopping 5,000 sesterces, displaying his outstretched hand to indicate the amount. The empire was sold, Didius Julianus was allowed into the camp and proclaimed emperor.

Please watch this brief video and convince me that extremely racist and elitist Bloomberg can win against Trump.

No wonder LSA detests the man.

[quote] [R1], Aren't you concerned that all of this expenditure on campaigning, when some are worried about a possible recession in 2020 and trying to limit their own spending, will turn a lot of voters completely off?

A little...

Bloomberg is an actualization of what the Trump candidacy was supposed to be. Trump is a fake but he wanted American voters to think he was so rich he stood to gain nothing by being President so that his motives must be altruistic. He appealed to poor white people based on this falsehood, some really believed that he was a successful, capable businessman who wanted to make things good for them. But we now know that Trump is a broke conman -- in debt to foreigners -- who needed to exploit the office of President to restore his waning 'fortune.'

I appreciate that Bloomberg is offering proof that he is not a fake billionaire. I wonder if those poor white people will respond to an ultra-rich Jew the same way they embraced a wealthy bigot.

So he’s buying back democracy and Bezos is buying back the environment.

On one hand I want them to die, but on the other had, I feel whatever will take down Putin and Trump should be done.

Bloomberg is an asshole, but he’s not a fucking horny moronic psychopath like Dump. I can’t take four more years of that twat.

[quote] The whole process has been a long, drawn out farce that needs to be stopped dead in its tracks. These debates and these small state primaries/caucuses are complete and total bullshit and only serve to make the candidates more vulnerable than they already are.

Now you talking my kind of talk...

R43, Know many that do not like any aspect of Trump's personality. However they agree with him on one or two issues and that's why they won't vote Blue no matter who. The DNC has gotten way, way too Liberal for them on some points.

Predicting many voters will be staying home in Nov 2020.

R46, that is what Democrats must to be conditioned to do. Hold their noses and vote for Bloomberg (or Biden or Bernie). Our hope in 2020 is that Trump has rallied the anti-Trump electorate who witness his tyranny, lack of character and decaying mental state and see the clear and present danger of his continued presidency. Most of us have never witnessed anything like Trump in our lives. The unease he has caused in our communities, the nation and the world must end. If that means I have to vote for Bloomberg, so be it.

R47, Just read on LSA that Bloomberg's and Biden's NV unfavorable ratings are very high. Supposedly Sanders is leading especially among Hispanics/Latinx and the "youth vote."

Wonder who will be waiting in 4-hour lines to vote their choice. Rain is predicted on Caucus day 2/22 which might mean a lower turnout too.

So the Dems who lecture everybody about old white men, the 1%, racist utterances, misogyny, buying elections, manipulating social media....etc, etc....and their last hope is?

Michael Bloomberg.

The youth don't vote.

Neither do Twitter users.

Whatever we can do to stick a fork in Bernie and throw him and his supporters on the trash bin of history works for me. They are almost MAGA level unhinged.

I don't know how or why, but I can't go onto YouTube without full screens of Trump ads trying to educate me about socialists and what they want to do with the country. When I finally get rid of that, then Bernie's equally obnoxious ads come up.

WTF, I just want to watch a video!

R52, yep, that's all we're going to hear from now until November.

ublock origin r52.

Bloomberg is a GOP’er.

Except when he’s not.

Until he is again.

Bloomberg may have a speech impediment, ¡perrow ell ahbluh espannyole mooey bee-enn!

I'd rather not have a miserable, finger-wagging Jewish oligarch with a massive chip on his shoulder dictating to me how things are going to be done from now on, TIA.

Is Bloomy in bed with the oil pigs? I won't vote for a POTUS unless he/she promises a solar and green energy revolution.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

He's going to learn, like Mitt Romney vs. McCain, that you can't buy a nomination.

[quote] So the Dems who lecture everybody about old white men, the 1%, racist utterances, misogyny, buying elections, manipulating social media....etc, etc....and their last hope is?

[quote] Michael Bloomberg.

Not by choice, by circumstance. No matter who vote blue.

[quote]Not by choice, by circumstance.

And what exactly is the circumstance?

It is getting ridiculous and intrusive. I'm voting blue no matter what but I will grudge vote if he gets the nom, which I doubt will happen.

OMG R41 you beat me to it. I remember reading about that in college and thought it could never happen again. Yet here we are. You do realize the empire was never the same again after that. 100 Years of peace ended and the fall began. It took awhile but it happened.

R64 The past is never dead. It's not even the past.

Can someone much more observant than I am please explain the motivation behind Bloomberg's Marry Poppins performance? This clip has been posted all over the internet, and most are asking "WTF?"

I'm excited by his rise. Finally someone with the ammo needed to win.

Then there's Bloomberg's "Little Mermaid" performance. Check out the interesting outfit he's wearing.

The check is in the mail R67

What we really need after the rise of a conservative populist authoritarian is for a conservative elitist authoritarian to buy the presidency. That won't destroy what's left of this country.

R67 " I'm excited by his rise." So am I.

It's going to be like the GOP nomination in 2016, when the other candidates ignored Trump until it was too late. They also took him on one at a time instead coming at him all together. The Democrats all need to be campaigning full force against Bloomberg. Some of the candidates especially are known for fighting billionaires and here's one that's going to smash them if they don't fight with every means possible.

I would vote for Bloomberg but get the goods up front whenever possible.

[quote]I'm excited by his rise.

That's because you have no principles. This is not a game.

I'm not in a Super Tuesday state and his ads are pissing me off, especially on YouTube.

R66 Amateur.

[quote]So will Bernie lose to Trump Dukakis-style, or Mondale/McGovern-style?

Which way will you desperately be wishing for, Hillary stan?

R76, In that clip I see 2 politicians having a lot of silly fun in an over-the-top way, like a fraternity prank.

By contrast both of the Bloomberg clips portray very bad acting, singing, movement, by a man who's clearly not comfortable in his role on stage and definitely not having a very good time doing it either. Bloomberg's performances definitely needed a super light touch to be anything but embarrassing for all concerned.

Would have loved for Bloomberg to yell, "Ill sue if you drop me" while flying around as Mary Poppins. That would have gotten him an honestly big laugh. He needed to pretend to be a good dancer and move around a bit in the 2nd clip.

^^ In R76's clip I see to senile sexual predators making me nauseous. Slow nite on Reedit R78 ?

R78 Bloomberg is not and entertainer, hes a damn oligarch. Of course hes going to be stiff as fuck on stage.

R80, Then why is he onstage instead of acting like an in charge politician if he can't pull it off?

Remember Bill Clinton before he was POTUS playing the horn on late night TV? He had a good time doing it and therefore it worked out well for him.

Bloomberg a d Clinton are two completely different people too.

I originally liked him. I'm beginning to fear him.

R82, Of course Bloomberg and Clinton are two completely different people.

Still doesn't answer the question of why the former was on stage is he absolutely cannot sing, dance or even move well, let alone act or even recite lines with any level of truth. Overall a completely cringe worthy performance. The least he could have done is use a light touch to make fun of himself. If he can't do that than he should stay off the stage. What a total buffoon.

Bloomberg is also not a reality show star. You're Fired R78

R85, Again if Bloomberg isn't a reality show star than why is he on stage pretending to be an actor?

The common people are too stupid to know what's good for them. They need a billionaire CEO in charge to tell them what to do and to govern them.

Bloomberg is the epitome of effectiveness and he will probably be that way as President. However, it seems he will veto any form of a wealth tax. He knows billionaire heads are on the chopping block next and he's leading ahead in this way to block off anything that is too harsh on his kind. If we don't tax the uber rich, how are we going to balance the economy and work down the deficit? Bernie represents a clear message that he's going to hit the rich hard! It may boil down to whoever the nominee chooses as VP.

R88 Nothing ever boils down to who is the VP nominee. Except when it does.

^^^Well then I hope the rumors are true that Cheeto will have Ivanka as VP.

R90 wanking to

Free Tuition

Free Health Care

Free Housing

Free iPhones

Free Telsas

Free Everything!

And Wall Street will pay!

Nothing but the shadow of my smile.

[quote]Why are they and corporations and Wall Street and the entire 1% so terrified of Bernie if as so many here claim, Bernie can't get elected or get anything done

It's that Bernie can't beat Trump. Anyone who was paying attention saw that Bernie was not building coalitions or a larger voter base over the last four years. The Unity Tour in 2017 made the divisions in the party worse, and the loss of ALL of Bernie's candidates in 2018 sealed the deal. He can't win. He's a non-starter.

They're not afraid of him, they're afraid of losing.

The Democrats really haven't recovered from Obama winning in 2008. They'd assumed Clinton was going to get the nomination and she very nearly did, but when she lost, the party had to work with Obama who, as we all know, didn't like the DNC one bit. He didn't do a lot of work for downticket races and he spent DNC money without working to fundraise and earn it back. Which is entirely his right, and this isn't meant as criticism, but the DNC wasn't able to bounce back from that easily.

So then in 2016 HRC runs and it's an uphill battle, not just because of interference but because of conservative backlash and the fact that it's historically very hard to win when your party has just held the White House for 8 years; Americans tend to want to alternate back and forth. She loses and the DNC is again caught off-guard.

They did really well in 2018 and are to be commended for pulling it together and winning the House, but the upshot of their focus on the House in 2018 is that they didn't seek out and nurture the kind of candidates we need for 2020.

Bloomberg is taking advantage of that, and as much as I appreciate that he is trying to stop Trump, I do not like the fact that he's taking advantage of a situation because he's a billionaire, just so he can make himself president, instead of using his wealth to help the Democratic Party (or everyday citizens, for that matter).

I will vote for him. I think he's got a shot. I like that he's one of the few billionaires to sign The Giving Pledge. So far he's given away $8.2 Billion of his fortune.

PM me your Pay Pal account R96.

Michael Bloomberg campaign rally .

[quote]Just read on LSA

Stopped reading after this. Go back to that dump site and stop polluting DL.

R42, that is the reason he WILL get elected. No fear of speaking the truth.

^Oh, and forgot to add. Fuck off back to racist, homophobic LSA.

R57: “ I'd rather not have a miserable, finger-wagging Jewish oligarch with a massive chip on his shoulder dictating to me how things are going to be done from now on, TIA.”

Well, I'd rather not have a miserable, finger-wagging Jewish millionaire with a massive chip on his shoulder dictating to me how things are going to be done from now on, TIA.

#1 among moderates. NPR poll today.

Biden loses in NV and SC (thank you Bernie), drops out. Bloomberg is the only moderate up there.

If he's goes up to the debate stage and does well... Prepare for the inevitable Bernie v Bloomberg ideological primary battle

Questions about Biden from The Intercept, Bernie outlet.

R99, Of course LSA is a racist and homophobic site. However you ignore that segment of voters at your peril.

Bloomberg came into the race, not to stop Trump, but to stop Bernie. It wasn't until Bernie winning became a real thing that the 1%, WS, very rich celebrities, etc. got busy pushing Bloomberg. It suddenly became very real to them that for the first time in their lives they might actually have to pay their fair share. Red or Blue, for the most part the very wealthy are all the same. They don't like to share. They don't like to see real workers get ahead. They sure as hell don't want to see the poor getting anything, not even food. Do you think for a minute that even celebrities who pretend to be oh so Liberal pay their staff a living wage, treat their maids and nannies and gardeners fairly, pay for them to have Social Security, or any kind of means of supporting themselves when they're too old to work? No way in hell. The rich are all the same, they are takers, never givers unless there is some publicity and a big tax break involved in it.

Another thing, if Bloomberg is allowed to buy the presidency, who will buy it next time, the remaining Koch brother? The head of Goldman Sachs or someone just like them, one of those big church religious right preachers?

More on what a super piece of shit Bloomberg is. I will never trade one bully for another.

"Bloomberg is running the "Death Star" of presidential campaigns"

Does this mean that it has a very visible, very easily accessible vent just wide enough to allow a single determined rebel fighter to fly in and blow apart the whole thing?

The sad thing is that Trump didn't even buy the Presidency, at least not by spending his own money.

Most likely Trump spent Putin's money. Of course I'm sure Putin happily offered. Whatever the price it was cheap for owing the USA.

I no more want Bloomberg to own our country and like Trump Bloomberg will see himself as king.

The Force is with Bernie.

R106 LSA is a reaction to racist white society. You have the nerve to call LSA a racist and homophobic site, but won't even give a thought to how racist classist and elitist people can be right here on DL on a daily basis.

Remember anti white sentiment is only possible because of the centuries long behavior of white society. So keep ignoring that very real fact.

White Society has never owned their ills against the others.