Amy Klobuchar Surging into Third Place in New Hampshire

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Good, maybe she will cease throwing things at her staff.

Staple throwing aside, she does well in debates.

I think Biden will have to drop out. And Warren is dropping by the minute.

I'll drink to that!

If Eliz Warren drops out, would her supporters go to Bernie or Amy? I think Amy and Pete might get some of the Biden voters.

Yes, go, Amy.

Go far, far away.

R6 Former Warren supporters will largely migrate to Bernie (and have already been doing so, presumably), whereas former Biden supporters will move to Pete and Amy now that Biden is sinking like a stone.

If Biden and Warren drop out, and it just comes down to Bernie, Pete, and Amy... I think moderate people will conclude that Amy is more electable than Pete.

Some of the women's vote with Elizabeth Warren may go to Amy.

Voting for Amy would be like voting for Linda in HR.

The View hosts are planning to challenge her on her shitty record on race when she goes on the show tomorrow.

Will she throw a stapler at their heads?

Sunny made a very good point that Kamala Harris was attacked constantly for her record as a prosecutor while no one has gone after Kloubachar's record. And Sunny has specific cases which she finds troublesome and which she is going to ask Kloubachar about tomorrow.

People who have studied her record say it's not very good, so we shall find out.

if Klobuchar is doing simple math, she must think that knocking off gay-boy Pete will collapse his support to her, giving her 33% of the vote, beating out Sanders. That doesn't even include the Biden vote that could go to her if Biden collapses.

Pete, you in trouble, boy. She's mean, she's dressed all in purple, and she's after you. She'll be like the school bully on the playground attacking the gay kid, but instead of taking your lunch money, she wants your votes.

Here’s $100 million Amy and you can be Attorney General.

This cunt cannot win a national election, JFC, how is this happening?

[quote]If Biden and Warren drop out, and it just comes down to Bernie, Pete, and Amy... I think moderate people will conclude that Amy is more electable than Pete.

You completely forget Bloomberg. He'll be a factor soon in a major way.

He's not on the ballot till the 4th primary? I guess that's Super Tuesday. I will vote in that.

This is similar to the chaos that happened in 2016 in the republican primary. They are hacking the primaries to get rid of Biden and Warren, keeping the Russian asset and the unelectable gay man and staple-throwing frau.

Mark my words...

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R20 you’re right. Who the fuck wants Amy???

I can see Amy getting some of the disenfranchised ex Trump supporters. Instead of staying home and not voting for anyone I can see them voting for Amy.

R21 bless you for the GIF.

Big deal. 3rd place in New Hampshire. Wait until they move on to all the other states away from the coasts and see her buried, and Joe Biden start winning like mad.

You are underestimating the people R25.

[quote]This cunt cannot win a national election, JFC, how is this happening?

Oh, but she can. She's never lost an election, and she sure as fuck isn't going to lose to a "local official" like Petey.

Tim Kaine had also never lost an election, R27. I don't see him presiding over the Senate, though.

If Pete drops out I would throw my support to Warren before rage-shakes Amy.

She is a shitty manager and can not keep a staff. She would make a horrible POTUS. Attrition in her cabinet would rival Jabba The Trump's. Quite frankly I believe she's power crazy and that's why people can't work for her for very long. Plus she seems like a raging bitch.

Pete couldn't even win a state-wide election.

Half the responses here are from one paid troll. It’s to encourage discord. Don’t engage them.

[quote]You are underestimating the people

Or you're overestimating them. South Carolina makes or breaks Biden. He may suddenly look more electable than he does right now. Or the trend continues.

She has Karen-adjacent hair.

When I first noted Klobuchar I thought that is how Ginny in billing looked.

Amy Klobuchar is like your sleep paralysis demon.

She's the only one that Republicans will vote for.

They will vote for Pete--they did in Iowa. That's how he won.

Pretty sure you can’t caucus for the Democratic nominee and be a registered Republican.

She had a good debate.

I don’t have the sense that she’s as smart as I would hope. She can’t tell a joke or an aside, though she keeps trying. I think both of these are an indication of intelligence. Not the TELLING of the joke; but instead, the recognition that one is appropriate, how she forms it, the contents of it, and such. I often am left scratching my head.

Also, she’s repetitive, as if she can’t think of new responses. She keeps using the word “receipts”, and saying that 59 is the new 39.

She looks like a Polish cleaning lady.

Surging like a case of acid reflux

Adult children of alcoholics are often rage-filled people with a ton of issues. Think Rosie O'Donnell.

I grew up in Minnesota, and Amy reminds me of a lot of women that I knew. They will be civil to your face when other people are around, but will be nasty and judgmental when you turn your back, or are alone with them.

If you call them on it they will say that you misunderstood, they were just trying to help. Then they'll tell you that they'll pray for you.

R43, that is perhaps the most insightful comment I’ve read about this politician. People underestimate her at their peril.

[italic]Third[/italic] place? Why, her campaign has the momentum of a runaway freight train!

Thanks, R44. It's why I will, under no circumstances, vote for her in the primary. I will vote for any of them in the general, including her, or, even worse, Bernie.

Amy strikes me as a catty frau who sits around at break time eating Danishes and gossiping about their coworkers. She’s the frauiest frau that ever fraued.

R30, Iowa is a state, which you would know if you didn’t live in Moscow.

She also complains about Pete being a newcomer and compares him to the “newcomer in the White House”.

The problem with Trump is that he is a stupid man with severe mental health problems and possibly drug addiction and dementia. It’s not that he’s a newcomer.

That facelift was not a good one. It’s frozen her face in a sad expression and is blocking her ability to look, well, normal. Ability to look expressive, I guess.

You have just described gay men R43.

R49, that was the moral equivalent of saying that Pete has no more morals than Trump. Trump isn’t a shitty President because he has no experience. He’s had three years of on the job training. He’s a shitty President because he’s incapable of learning anything and has no morals of any kind. How does that compare to Pete?

She thinks a Rhodes Scholar and a thing with an IQ lower than a table are exactly the same thing? The more I hear her talk, the more I think she’s stupid and judgmental.

I prefer Elizabeth Warren over Amy Klobuchar.

When Trump volunteered that he was a very stable genius, it indicated that he learned at some point, that he was mentally unstable and a stupid man. Very much so.

I love Amy and her common sense approach to the issues. I hope she gains traction.

So she’s getting the bronze?

R49, the “newcomer” argument pisses me off. She lobs it at Pete to diminish him, but by doing so, she’s also hitting Obama with it.

BO had 7 years in IL congress before 1.5 years in the US Senate before running for President (finishing three US Senate years). Arguably, being the chief executive of a city of 100K people with a $368M budget is on par with state legislative experience—especially if you favor mayors and governors who actually execute policy versus legislators who argue about and pass policy. Thus, Pete’s only missing a national rotation to make him equal to BO in experience.

That would bother me, but this fucking nation elected Trump lowering the bar to zero government experience. As a result, Pete’s experience is adequate.

Amy has to stop whining that people aren’t buying what she’s selling. She argues that Pete is diminishing the lifetime of work the Senate candidates have, but she fails to own that people hate congress (see below). So, Pete’s stating the obvious.

Overall, I wish she’d step off. With his election, Obama destroyed our norms. As a Gen Xer, I used to believe that success comes from working hard, paying your dues, and waiting your turn. Obama’s election demonstrates that exceptional talent and charisma can augment and replace experience. I used to believe that leaders should appeal to our best selves—especially after taking office. Then, Trump amassed power by pandering to and legitimizing our worst selves. So, when the lady attacks a charismatic, political lightweight, she attacks the choices of Americans over the past twelve years and a younger generation forged in the instant gratification of helicopter parents, the Internet, and smartphones.

Amy acts like she should be working the PTA cake walk fundraiser . She doesn't have the mettle for anything larger.

R58 = sexist.

[quote]Also, she’s repetitive, as if she can’t think of new responses. She keeps using the word “receipts”, and saying that 59 is the new 39.

Guess who else was repetitive? Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Donald Trump... people who have won the Presidential election.

Why all this hate towards Amy? You guys really want Biden or Warren? Really?

Amy is the most electable, especially among disenfranchised Republicans.

CNN just covered her getting off the bus at a voting station. For some reason I expected the talking head to say: Amy Klobuchar has just gotten off her campaign bus and started beating New Hampshire voters. Look at that, she's absolutely pummelling that older woman. They seem to love it and plainly, so does she.

I might actually support her then, R63. Unapologetic no fucks to give Amy would be more fun than the current pretend to be nice Amy.

I like her, but I do tend to support underdogs.

You elitists must hate anyone who's not from the East or West coast area. Might explain the hatred toward Amy and Pete...

Can't keep staff is always a bad sign. Especially in government. If I have to listen to her voice for 4 years to dump Trump, OK, but it won't be a picnic.

None of you seemed to care that Hillary fired the entire White House travel staff.

That's because there was no physical violence involved.

She's as personable as a cold bowl of oatmeal with skim milk and and unripened banana on the side.

Hey R70:

If Amy tried that R71, she'd break her hip and throw her shoulder out of the socket. Athletic she ain't. That's why she throws staplers at people.

Still, she's the most violent candidate to ever seek the Democratic nomination. And that's why I love her!

I suspect Hillary was more violent and had some drunken rampages.

[quote] R57: the “newcomer” argument pisses me off. She lobs it at Pete to diminish him, but by doing so, she’s also hitting Obama with it

I now understand that the government will run itself for a good period and if there are no huge disasters. The most important characteristics in a President seem to be intelligence; judgement; character; and the humility to appoint good advisors and listen to them, yet overrule them if wise.

Pete has all those things, I believe, and Trump has none.

Oh, R57, the problems with Trump, two of them anyway, is that he’s truly stupid, and mentally unstable. It’s not that he’s new.

[quote] With his election, Obama destroyed our norms. As a Gen Xer, I used to believe that success comes from working hard, paying your dues, and waiting your turn. Obama’s election demonstrates that exceptional talent and charisma can augment and replace experience.

In your rabid defense of Obama, remember that he said that it is time for a woman to be a president. Don't kid yourself. He is gentle but has an ego like the rest of them. Trump takes his job and then Pete succeeds Trump and does a better job than Obama ever could. Obama's legacy gets chipped away bit by bit, until he is just that black president. Think about that before you defend his honor.

Oh, please. Obama will always be the President that saved the economy. If you credit the Fed instead, fine. Then Obama is the President who didn’t get in the way, and that is still saying something. He also got bin Ladin, which was justice, and that’s important. Then there was healthcare. He also reduced our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. These are all monumental accomplishments.

So, R71, you're saying that Amy is an unstable rageaholic and prone to acts of physical violence? She needs anger management therapy, not the Presidency.

I have said I have exceed expectations in New Hampshire. If I don't, I will announce that my whole staff was punched in the throat by me personally and then I'm going looking for the fucking drug addled state!

R76 Trump isn't stupid at all. People underestimating Trump was one of the reasons he won.

Klobuchar is easily the smartest candidate running for president. Whether or not that helps her win the nomination remains to be seen.

Go Amy go, go Amy go. We need you to help bump off some of the old white guys. Still too many old white guys.

[quote]Go Amy go, go Amy go. We need you to help bump off some of the old white guys. Still too many old white guys.

Yeah, let's replace them with a screeching harpie adult child of an alcoholic with major rage issues. SO much better than those white dudes!

I'll fucking pop you, R84

Let’s replace the old white dudes with a woman who has passed more legislation than any current Senator. So much better than an old do-nothing like Bernie Sanders.

Fucking right, R86. I'm gonna kick those old bastards right in their enlarged prostates and then I'm gonna kick their asses in New Hampshit!

Agree R81. Trump is way beyond stupid.

He couldn’t spell, or even say, a four syllable word if his life depended on it

She reminds me of a family restaurant manager. Big, fake smile for the public- but all the employees hate and dread her.

Amy is rising from the middle the same way Obama did. She also speaks sense, is practical and has been very effective getting bills passed, even with Republicans in charge in the Senate. Unfortunate to say it, but she's not gay or Jewish or a socialist, which are tropes that could come up if the Buttigieg or Sanders or Bloomberg would get the nod. So what if she threw some stapler -- I think if she's aggressive, she won't be threatened or intimidated by Trump at a debate -- the way Hillary didn't know what to do when the Orange Asshole was standing in her shadow. Amy would tell the jerk off right to his face.

The Queen of Mean

She's All Woman, and More Man Than You'll Ever Be.

When someone throws a stapler at you, believe them the first time. Don't wait for them to throw the fax machine, also.

Hillary must be choke-holding her grand kids right about now.

I just can't wait for Biden to start doing well after we get past these lily-white states and watch the Bernie Bros heads explode.

Absolutely. South Carolina will breathe new life into Joe's shambolic campaign and put a spring in his step. A state he will totally lose in November.

At this point the only thing that should matter is whether a candidate can beat Trump. Anything else is pretty immaterial. If Amy Klobuchar beats Trump she will be welcome to throw things at my head.

R86 I am so over old white dudes. Isn’t it time to move on.

R90 yeah so what if she threw a stapler, big fuck’n deal, it just tells me that she is a real person and gets frustrated from time to time and that she has some passion for this process.

R95 I am scared of what is going to happen to the Bernie Bros. I fear they are all going to self destruct with exploding heads syndrome. Stay tuned and keep your fire extinguishers handy.

[quote]I just can't wait for Biden to start doing well after we get past these lily-white states.

I'm finally wondering who this Amy is, and she's doing around here. So I guess she's doing better.

But what would be best would be her offering her supporters to Pete and dropping out. I don't see what she is offering that Pete doesn't have and better.

[quote]I don't see what she is offering that Pete doesn't have and better.

She’s an accomplished Senator who has a strong record of getting legislation passed.

Pete, on the other hand, is a former local official.

R68, it’s the prerogative of an administration to turnover a department in total. It’s a sign of poor management to have ELECTIVE attrition at high levels.

R68, that whataboutism. Not relevant.

Well, Amy is now in third place in New Hampshire. As predicted by this thread.

which, considering that she was about 5th before, is moving in the right direction after getting acclaim for winning the last debate. Third place right now is actually very good. Let Bernie and Pete be the targets of each other and of Biden and Warren. Amy will continue to do well in debates and get more people to notice her and vote for her. So 3rd place tonight (more than double the votes for Elizabeth) is actually pretty darn good for now.

Amy has the personality of a moldy potato that has begun to sprout and grow green eyes.

AmyMentum! 7 Whole Human Delegates!!!

^ Most of whom fear a beating.

Amy K's an absolute bore. Does she actually have a policy proposal that ANYONE can elucidate?

I"m sick of Dem moderates. Why do Dems always have to put forth a moderate while the GOP keeps pushing out right wingers without apology

No but her dad is an alcoholic and in a nursing home. I know that. I think it may be part of her platform.

Because the fucking right wingers get out and vote. We can win elections of people get off their damn asses and vote.

Bloomberg is offering Sanders staff members jobs that double their salary.

[quote]I think if she's aggressive, she won't be threatened or intimidated by Trump at a debate -- the way Hillary didn't know what to do when the Orange Asshole was standing in her shadow. Amy would tell the jerk off right to his face.

As volatile as she is, I could just as easily see him pushing her buttons and making her cry.

I am praying whoever finds themselves in that situation this time just stops, looks at him, points and says: You, got to your spot, stand there and behave.

And if he doesn't: Folks, here he is, the President of the United States (shrugs)

Agree R115. She seems fragile and always on the verge of tears or a nervous breakdown. She doesn't telegraph strength and confidence.

Trump gets people mad in public -- he hasn't brought anyone to tears. Amy will slap him verbally if he tries to pull his usual shit; she already pushed back on Buttigieg being the "new cool kid" with "inexperience".

Just saw her on CNN's State of the Union. Poor thing. She's suffering from Biden syndrome.

1) take someone who is an adequate presenter but not a natural communicator

2) cram them full of soundbites rather than allowing them to talk like a human being

3) media train them to never [bold]NEVER[/bold] stop talking until they've gotten out all their soundbites

3) put 'em on TV and wonder where it all went wrong.

She looks like an angry woman. Sorry but she does. After 4 years of angry Dump face, I don’t want to see testing bitch face.

Resting

AMY IS GONNA DEPORT you fuckers who didn't support her this early on. SHE IS THE ONE

Especially now that AOC has said Bernie will most likely have to pivot his healthcare plan so that it is EXACTLY the same as what Amy has proposed. I’d rather vote for the candidate that had the correct and implementable plan the first time.

Yang (withdrawn) and Steyer (needs two state polls that aren't likely to happen) are both out for the next debate on Wednesday. All the more time for Amy to turn her fire on another candidate. More Pete-hate, or someone else like Bernie?

I found her unlikeable on Bill Maher on Friday and found Maher somewhat rude and demeaning to her. Anyone else feel similarly?

Maher doesn't have time for plain old frau Klobuchar, that's for sure. And Klobuchar doesn't seem to know how to roll with the punches of the many personalities she must deal with to get what she wants.

I'm looking forward to seeing how thin-skinned she gets if she's attacked at a debate, which was Harris's undoing.

She’s going to seem so Presidential and likeable now that racist shitshow Bloomberg has entered the debates.

She certainly was thin skinned. We got to see multiple times last night, why she has high staff turnover. At one point she picked up her note pad, and slammed it back down, but I thought she was going to throw it at Pete.

If she can't handle questioning by calm, rational Pete, she would have a stroke on stage against Trump.

She’s not thin-skinned. She gets mad, and I like it.

Her delivery style is clunky when she's calm, she is not a nimble intellect (which isn't saying she's stupid, either) and when her internal feelings get riled she's even less effective. Trump would eat her alive. He rattled Hillary Clinton from time to time and she's cool as a cucumber all the time and had been playing the game for forty years. Amy wouldn't have a chance. Voters would judge her not ready.

[quote]She gets mad, and I like it.

For a reasonably large campaign donation r130, I am sure she will spank you.

In the after-debate interviews last night, she was still talking about the momentum she got from the previous debate. What she didn't say was that her mo was finally stopped last night by the 'mo.

^ LOL.

She IS a clunky speaker and she can get riled. So does Nancy Pelosi. Nobody would say she’s not effective or “not ready”.

I'd argue though Pelosi has a kind of quality that makes her likeable. She has a natural sense of humour about herself and DC that she lets loose from time to time. She doesn't take it only seriously.

Amy always seems like she's tempted to read the (smile before reading joke) instructions in her script.

Amy is currently doing a Town Hall on Fox News.

Her reaction to Joe Biden interrupting her was my favorite moment of the debate.