CNN: Bernie Sanders surges to top Democratic presidential pack

Bernie is going to win.

Well, we're screwed. Four more years of Trump.

I don't care about national polls because they're meaningless, but the media creation that is The Klobusaur at 4% nationally... I can't.

[quote]Bernie Sanders surges

Pics please.

Ugh.

R4 E-mail CNN.

Pete, Liz and Amy all having their people call Hillary to see if she can say something nasty about them next.

If wishes wer horses--etc.

R7 Great thread idea: WHAT WOULD HILARY SAY

CNN finally reports truths!

Why do you Bros love Trump so much? What are Trump's policies that you like and why?

The sane Democrats are being divided among too many people (Biden, Buttigieg, Bloomberg, Klobuchar) while all of the leftists coalesce around Bernie. This is what Bloomberg wanted to happen.

R11 Trump is gross. Y'all Bernie-haters don't really care about unity, do you?

Sanders supporters don't care about unity, R13. Don't try to claim that they do.

Bernie beats trump by greatest margin. Bernie is the only way we can get Trump out of office. Biden is hemorrhaging voters; as is Warren.

"You know Hillary, Senator Klobuchar has cankles too. Really big enormous cankles,. People cringe when they see her cankles.... well yes, we were hoping you might issue a statement saying that people hate the Senator's unsightly cankles and that you would have to think long and hard before supporting a candidate whose cankles people mock."

Trump would win either way.

Overall, he hasn't inflicted enough damage yet.

People need to die or lose everything. They have to learn the hard way. And the hard way has to get way harder than it is now. The good news is, Shit Gibbon is working overtime to fulfill on that hypothesis through all sorts of idiotic decisions.

I'm hoping an economic collapse occurs EARLY in his 2nd tenure. So his awfulness is just rubbed in all of those deplorable faces like so much dog feces. Yeah, we will all go down - but absent that, some other madman will come down the pike eventually and get into office and wreak even greater havoc. Which is what Im really terrified of. Fuckface Trump has opened the Overton window on a whole slew of awful shit. The next Republican idiot will use that as a starting point and go to town.

R13 They’re not about unity because they’re Republican seat holders in disguise.

Exhibit A 👇🏻

[quote] When Fox News's Neil Cavuto asked whom Manchin would vote for if the Vermont progressive ended up becoming the Democratic presidential nominee, Manchin responded, "Well, it wouldn't be Bernie."

Link to Manchin’s “trusted friends” interview:

[quote] Trump would win either way.

Trump won by 70,000 votes from 3 states.

His base = 40% of the electorate

At least 50 percent of the electorate will vote for anyone but him.

"Hey gurrlina!!! Yes, this is Marc Peter Charles Goodman from the Buttigieg campaign. You know, between us gals, Pete has like zero experience-- I mean South Bend! If the light is green you'd drive right through it!!... Right, so we were hoping that you would tell Variety that everyone, I mean simply EV-ER-Y-ONE thinks that Pete is too inexperienced to be President and that as the Most Qualified Candidate you would not necessarily support a MAN who was so unqualified!! And if you could give is a shot of you with a big thumbs down, that would be great too!!!"

These polls will continue to shift from week to week.

The American public, would never vote Bernie into office. He’s too far left.

R14 you're damn right that those us on the far-left don't usually appeal to platitudes such as "unity". If anything we realise it for sham civility politics that it truly is. Here's the reality of the situation: Sanders has a base that is unwilling to support another candidate with rare exception. Fuck unity, do you want to beat Trump, or not?

R13 Another turncoat. Exhibit B👇🏻

R19 They won't show up for someone like Bernie with no appeal outside of his cult. Ordinary voters don't hate Trump as much as you think. Only if the stock market crashes would people be motivated enough to get rid of Trump.

Let’s focus on calling out the Republicans-in-disguise in our very own party.

THEY ARE THE PROBLEM.

It's great news and Bernie has much more of the black vote than Biden. I knew that Biden's support was never real. He's a regressive, corrupt, lying dufus. He's a failure at most things. Bernie resonates as being himself, warts and all.

R16? Shut the fuck up you racist ancient millennial pig. I'm sick of your misogyny and racist slurs on this site. You're a poison. And you're at least 60 years old. Ancient white gay man speak. Cankles = hilarious.

TheMillenialFriend is odious.

[quote]you're damn right that those us on the far-left don't usually appeal to platitudes such as "unity". If anything we realise it for sham civility politics that it truly is.

So then stop bitching when other branches of the party don't care about unity either, dipshit.

Only when they stop being so hypocritical about it, darling R28!

Daddy is winning!

[quote] [R19] They won't show up for someone like Bernie with no appeal outside of his cult. Ordinary voters don't hate Trump as much as you think. Only if the stock market crashes would people be motivated enough to get rid of Trump.

The same ordinary voters who turned out in record numbers for the midterms (which they often sit out) and who have turned out in record numbers for the off yr election that they usually sit out; they don’t really hate Trump very much and they’re going to turn out for every election but the presidential. That makes perfect sense.

R31 With Bernie as the other choice, they will stay away or hold their nose and vote for Trump.

What a lot of Never-Bernie's fail to realize about building a "revolution" is running as a candidate that actually inspires people to come out to vote. Frankly I expect their lack of support for Sanders after his nomination to be Democratic candidate to be inconsequential compared to what we'll gain.

We’re an adolescent country at under 250 years. It makes sense that we would be teetering on the edge of self-destruction, as we are. It’s what adolescents do.

[quote] [R31] With Bernie as the other choice, they will stay away or hold their nose and vote for Trump.

Again: The same ordinary voters who turned out in record numbers for the midterms (which they often sit out) and who have turned out in record numbers for the off yr election that they usually sit out; they don’t really hate Trump very much and they’re going to turn out for every election but the presidential. That makes perfect sense.

[quote]CNN: Vladimir Putin surges to top Democratic presidential pack

FTFY

Bernie's biggest problem is his supporters. They are particularly obnoxious. Go to the Reddit politics forum for ample proof. If you don't love Bernie, then you must be evil or wrong. It became particularly obnoxious last week during the Elizabeth Warren kerfuffle. They were practically calling for her head on a platter. They're really the same as the Trumptards oh, just on the other end of the political spectrum.

They're currently whining that the mainstream media is out to sabotage Bernie because he hasn't garnered the same amount of coverage as the other candidates. He's really lucky that's true -would he survive the same onslaught of media attention that Hillary Clinton got? Or Joe Biden? Or Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren? If anything, Bernie has greatly benefited from the lack of media spotlight. If elected, he's not going to get anything done. His ideas are too extreme for the majority of the American public and, as Hillary said, nobody really likes him.

I would still take him over the current though.

R36 Girl, please. You wreak of desperation like cheap perfume.

Bernie is going to win no matter how much you slander his supporters and try painting him out to be Hitler.

Who are the fucking retards supporting him?? God the people in this country are stupid.

"Hey Hils honey. How's Chelsea and the grandkids? Oh great! Great!! Listen, Jill and I were wondering if you could say something nasty about Hunter and that whole Ukraine thing. You know, like maybe you say that you think it's much worse than your emails and that a broad would never get away with that and you can't give me your support until this whole Hunter thing is cleared up..... Okay, then can you say that too, that you agree with President Trump that the Ukrainians were behind the 2016 election too--I mean you've already blamed everybody else, right, so why not the Ukrainians... and put it on the Twitter too that you're not going to support me and my guy says put "hashtag Iowa Primary" on that.

And the Bros wonder why most people don't like Bernie...

R40 You’re the three-pronged retard, dear. emotional, intellectual and spiritual retard.

R42 "Most people?" You may prefer your self-segregated opinion, but please speak for yourself...

R33 is AOC.

Biden doesn't arouse any great enthusiasm in most voters, it's just that the establishment junkie Democrats are desperate for the person they feel as the safest choice.

R42 “Most people”?

Did your RETARDED ass read the poll numbers in op?

Also: to give you Never-Bernie folks a tip, calling supporters of one of the most diverse coalitions in this campaign "Bros" makes you look like a joke...

R48 Or like the SHILLS that they are!

"Hey Hills-- Maya Harris!! Been way too long!! Listen-- I have a big favor. Can you say something nasty about my sister? Like maybe say that she's a big phony and has no convictions and that's why you could never support her for vice president. Yeah, and if you really feel inspired, you can say how a Biden-Harris or Sanders-Harris ticket would be the worst thing to happen to this country and you hope nobody votes for them!! I mean you're The Honest Hillary now, no one cares if you come off a little racist, right?"

WTF are you going through, R50?

Both Tulsi and Sanders saw their polls shoot up after Hillary dissed them R51

Apparently Bernie is recruiting AOC, Bon Iver and Portugal The Man for some kind of rockstar presidential rally in Iowa this weekend.

Oh boy! I hope he manages to get an extra nap in and wears an extra pair of Depends - the excitement is sure to be a lot.

This place is always funny (and wrong) about politics.

He'll go up further. The dissing from Clinton will only help because SHE'S NOT POPULAR and even pretty widely disliked within the party (and falling, as she pulls this stuff).

Tulsi and Sanders voters truly dislike Hillary. I don't think that Hillary commenting on the other candidates would really have the same effect.

I'm not so sure that appearing with those celebrities is necessarily for Iowa voters as much as a visual for younger non-white voters in upcoming states. Ms. Turner will be furiously circulating them almost immediately.

So "Feel It Still" vs "High Hopes" lol

Que @slander the voters” default #3457854.

I'll spare you the Karens dancing

I won’t vote for him.

How unexpected, R59.

[quote]Both Tulsi and Sanders saw their polls shoot up after Hillary dissed them

Hilz should probably just STFU from now on. She jinxes everything!

R61

Like Baldric, she has a cunning and clever plan to be the nominee for her do over triumph. She's busy whittling down her list of running mates as we speak.

I wouldn’t put it past her, R62.

I wonder how she feels about the upcoming FX series centered around the her husband’s impeachment, especially since it’s being produced by one of her supporters, Ryan Murphy...

Hollywood is so strange, lol.

[quote]Girl, please. You wreak of desperation like cheap perfume.

о, Боже

What are Pete's chances? I like him but just got into an argument with my ex. I don't think he can win even though I would happily support him. Is the country ready for a gay president? I don't think so.

Bernie cannot win more than 2 states.

[quote] What are Pete's chances?

He’s in 4th place barely out of the single digits. What do you believe his chances are?

Bernie has zero chance of being President.

Funny, Monmouth poll also released today says Biden is ahead.

OP, get your facts straight.

I've been ambivalent on Bernie (I believe we need a strong generational shift and fresher, younger, forward-thinking blood in government), but I'm casting my vote for him in the primary anyway, and I now hope he becomes the nominee. This country needs a dramatic restructuring shakeup to counter the regressive backward lurch we have taken with the fossils who have been in charge (and ruining things) for too long. I hope the younger generations turn out in droves. Not sure that they will if the Dems offer up a dreary status-quo like the doddering Biden, though. Even though I'm hesitant about Bernie's age, he's definitely not doddering.

I fear Bernie would turn everything over to the Woke crowd, making Liz look like a member of the John Birch Society.

These polls are complete bullshit.

Shhh don't tell that to the Bros. They only look at the polls that look positive for their god.

Whoops, now there are three polls released today saying Biden is ahead.

And still one CNN poll saying Bernie is a little bit ahead.

Sanders would, at best, be a one-term President - I can't imagine he has the stamina for 2. He would get next to nothing done (much like his Senate career) and moderate voters would come running back to any GOP candidate who seems remotely reasonable in 2024. Can you imagine this guy at a world economic summit? The other leaders would be laughing behind his back too.

I'm not nuts about Biden, and am not sure he's got the stamina for 2 terms either. But I think he might be smart enough to pass the torch in 2024 if his ego doesn't get in the way.

Hey, "YourMillennialFriend" - once was enough. It's not particularly funny, and you're running it into the ground. Enough.

Bernie burned too many bridges in 2016, and his "Berners" have been burning them right and left since the top of the year. Now they have realized they need everybody, they're floating the idea of "unity" in spite of the fact that they have harassed, in the most awful way, anyone who wasn't on board with Bernie from the getgo. Fuck you, Berners. There are literally thousands of "#NoBernieEver" voters.

I think they prefer to called "Bros". At least that's what they named themselves.

Why yes - the 1,156 people polled out of over 300 million people in the US speak for the entire country.🙄

Quit being so gullible and quit taking polls seriously. All the polls during the last election swore Hillary would become president and look how that turned out.

Bernie will never become nominee.

Hillary had a lead until after the last debate; she likely would've won had the election been a couple of weeks earlier. The polls lagged at fully capturing her slide in those states.

Some of these poles are pure bullshit...will we be able to trust Iowa to give us something real?

The South Pole is real R81!!

I’m voting for Pete. Period.

I'm voting for Bernie. He's going to win.

Bernie will win.

Of course Bernie will win.

He’s been building momentum since ‘15.

Beautiful numbers!

Who will Bernie pick for VP?

He should pick Pete for VP. He's right enough to balance Bernie's left. For me Pete is too right to be president, but he's okay for VP. Of course Bernie should pick a black woman but I don't know who. No one really likes Harris.

Bernie vs Biden, the adult diapers war.

Ms. Ball schools the children as David “delicious dick” Doel commentates.

Yas!

Receipts R91! Excellent. Bernie tells the truth. That's the perception. The more people see of him, the more popular he becomes. The opposite is true for Biden, Warren and the local gay official.

Yes, R93.

Also, isn’t David dreamy?

There's something sort of beautiful about unapologetically cranky Bernie surging to the top. Compare him to Warren who acts like everyone's embarrassingly overly enthusiastic mom, which is entirely an act. She never behaved that way until about a year ago.

I don't know if Bernie can win if he gets the nomination, but, of all the candidates, I'd be the least displeased voting for him. I don't agree with him on a number of issues, but I appreciate his sincerity. (Although I think he's pandering on immigration, which is disappointing. Normally he's not a panderer.)

He'll come back down again.

Bernie will lose 45 states.

If Bernie gets the nomination it is his VP pick that will get the votes.

And he would probably pick someone like Amy to counter him.

I think Amy would turn him down.

Amy would be a terrible a Veep choice for Sanders. To be honest, I’m not sure anyone still really in the game would even want to be Bernie’s Veep, nor be a good second for him.

I mean, Bernie won’t get it. But if he were to, his choice of Veep would be crucial, because he’s a nearly 80 year old man who just recovered from a heart attack.

Bernie will continue to surge.

Bernie’s VP could be Warren, Buttigieg, Amy, Harris, Nina Turner or AOC if he really wants to light a match - there really are so many options.

This thread is HILARIOUS.

"Surges". Sigh...

He's TWO POINTS higher than Biden/Trump. And again in R85's Newsweek link, the difference between the Sanders is TWO points. That's hardly a surge. And when the same poll finds Tom Steyer TIED with Trump, that shows how laughable it is.

Also from the Newsweek article:

"According to the RealClearPolitics NATIONAL POLLING AVERAGE... Biden is in the lead in the race for the Democratic nomination. Biden is at 27.7 percent, Sanders at 21.7 percent, Warren at 14.8 percent, Buttigieg at 7.8 percent, and Bloomberg at 7 percent."

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R102 = 20 year old first time voter.

Bernie is surging

Bernie is surging no doubt about it. Klobuchar should absolutely not be his VP choice. Go with Stacey Abrams!

Yeah, a socialist Jew and a black woman. lmao

Go for it. I can’t wait to watch Bernie lose and watch his cult have meltdowns, maybe even see them shoot up a baseball field again.

R107 He’s going to win.

If we listened to your stupid ass, we should’ve expected him to drop months ago.

Months ago, months from now...he'll lose.

The 2020 ticket. Grumpy Cat and Snooty Dog. ouch

2020 Ticket: Orange Mound of Shit and Militant Fag in the Closet

Looks like he’ll continue to surge.

[QUOTE]Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team said in an indictment last year that workers at a Russian organization called the Internet Research Agency were instructed to “use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump — we support them).”

R113 ...

You're a fool if you think "support them" doesn't mean "run them and finance them".

And the Bros will get suckered in by them again.

No, you’re clearly RETARDED if you think Russia is backing Bernie Sanders.

Were they funding his Civil Rights protests and arrests in the 1960’s, too?

Actually, back then your kind was probably screaming, “It’s the Commies helping the niggers! We’ve got to stop them!”

What a delicious day for a surge.

In a surprise move, MSNBC explains #DemocraticSocialism and details how "hallmarks" of Democratic Socialism are already part of the American ecosystem.

The difference between Biden and Bernie is that young people might actually come out for Bernie and be excited about him.

Biden may have the largest amount of black support but Bernie has always sat at number two ahead of everyone else.

If he gets Iowa he has a real chance of winning.

Also, Trump barely won the Presidency. He's already proven himself to be the worst President in history. If that doesn't motivate people then I don't know what will.

Dumping Trump in favor of Bernie is from worst to almost-as-bad.

Yes, it would totally be "almost as bad" or not at all.

Not true at all. Ridiculously untrue R121. Do you really know where you live? You live in a fascist land. Whether you're an American or a Russian Bot. Bernie is a social democrat. It's too bad the US doesn't have a better word for it. In most other civilized countries, he'd be called a liberal. Trump is a fascist kleptocrat, placed in power by a right wing religious, white supremacist mob of supporters and kept in power by greedy and corrupt elected officials. Bernie isn't the second coming of FDR. He's the right man for this time only.

From the old horse's mouth:

“In Vermont, everybody knows that I am a socialist and that many people in our movement, not all, are socialists. And as often as not — and this is an interesting point that is the honest-to-God truth — what people will say is, ‘I don’t really know what socialism is, but if you’re not a Democrat or a Republican, you’re OK with me.’ That’s true. And I think there has been too much of a reluctance on the part of progressives and radicals to use the word ‘socialism.’”

And that quote will be used against him over and over and over.

Great news. Instead of 2020 being a referendum on Trump, Democrats will be playing defense with every down ballot candidate distancing themselves from their own presidential nominee. I’ll take Hunter Biden and Burisma over this shit any day of the week. I can shut that down with two sentences. I can’t defend socialism, however.

More than likely the candidate you are dragging through the mud today is the candidate you are going to have to defend tomorrow. It doesn't make any difference if it is Biden, Warren, Sanders or any of the other candidates. We can express our differences without making the other potential nominee look bad.

How Vermont goes, so goes the nation. NOT!!!

[quote]More than likely the candidate you are dragging through the mud today is the candidate you are going to have to defend tomorrow. It doesn't make any difference if it is Biden, Warren, Sanders or any of the other candidates. We can express our differences without making the other potential nominee look bad.

It's been a musical chairs of who the media is going to attack based upon the latest poll. Rage gets people to "click." I'm actually very upset that the media is going this route these days. Anyone on top gets hammered down, not praised.

[quote]"Berners" have been burning them right and left since the top of the year. Now they have realized they need everybody, they're floating the idea of "unity"

Now that the Joe Rogan thing happened, if you look closely on Twitter and Reddit, you'll see that they're pushing the idea of unity WITH REPUBLICANS. Never Democrats, because all they do is sit online all day and whine about Democrats.

What Joe Rogan thing?

Young people don't vote. Bernie's numbers are over-inflated because he has more support with young voters (who will never turn out).

R130 He endorsed Bernie.

R131 EXACTLY. They never turn up. Even his batshit crazy voterbase is not enough for him to win. Gen z and Millennials would have to break records for him to even stand a chance. Not going to happen. Meanwhile, Biden has a secure voting base with older people and black people, you know, those who actually vote.

Bernie's not the one to help win the most senate seats. Even if he can get the largest popular vote margin over Trump, they'll be wasted votes in the bluest states.

It’s going to be hilarious watching Berniebecome the nominee. DL swore Hillary would win and told everyone to shut up. They also said Trump wouldn’t run, wouldn’t get the nomination, wouldn’t win, wouldn’t last a year. Face it, you guys are always wrong.

R125 This should help defend DEMOCRATIC Socialism.

R135 That's because she DID win asshole. She won the popular vote by millions.

Train wreck

R137. Here we go with people like you who seems to beat on and on about the popular vote. I myself was pissed when she lost to trump but the popular vote is irrelevant when she failed to win the electoral vote. Which is how we pick a winner not based on people that only live in LA and new york.

R137, even Democrats are tired of hearing that. She lost

I just don't see Bernie or Elizabeth winning. A person who should be winning, is not running. I don't like Bloomberg but I think he has a chance.

Did anybody else ready CuntyAnne's piece in the Washington Post?

I won't link to it because it seems like a rare occasion WaPo played pure click bait... and it should know better than to give space to that known liar. But C&P from The Hill which captures the essence of her "argument": "In fact, if Democrats were serious about electability, they’d nominate the guy who actually won primary contests and proved he can play David to Goliath in key places four short years ago," Conway wrote, referring to Sanders's 2016 presidential bid.

It seems to me if they're talking up Sanders, they are entirely unworried about him.

And the socialist thing, while laudable, is wholly contrary to the American DNA/fantasy of the American dream. You ever notice for all they bang on about it how few people actually emigrate from the U.S.? No matter how deplorable, it is home, and it is natural people stay.

R136 that didn't work out too well for you yesterday either did it Bro?

R137 is Hillary sitting in the Oval Office right now? No. She LOST. No one cares about the popular vote.

R139 Elections should be based on how THE PEOPLE VOTE, not swathes of land.

One person, one vote. I don’t care where the fuck in the country you live or “what it says about the voter”.

One person, one fucking vote. Done.

Republicans have been demonizing "socialism" for decades, and guess what? Young people don't care and are supporting Bernie anyway.

Maybe some of you shouldn't be so hung up over the word "socialism" (it seems to trigger a lot of people) and start looking at actual policies.

R146 Fuck ‘em. Their flimsy deck of cards and the house it forms is crumbling, as TRUE Democrats and even upstanding Republicans are flocking to Senator Bernie Sanders.

We are going to win this thing from the inside out, straight down the middle, all parties welcome!

He’ll continue his upward surge.

He will continue to surge.

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The Joe Rogan endorsement has sparked a nasty fight among the Twitter Woke

What did we learn from the #TrumpTapes?

✅ Trump is only scared of Bernie Sanders.

✅ Trump wanted Joe Biden to run.

I hope the campaign does an ad with the audio!