Need Elder Gay advice. Or any advice really.
I've started going to the Y for the first time and....wow. Wow! Damn. Hot guys of every color. I'm not a gym bunny and never needed to be but have decided to start working out a bit (turning 30 motivated me, and since I know you're all wondering, no, I'm not fat or a hunchback or missing teeth).
So this gym thing is pretty new to me. Spent no time in lockerrooms outside of high school...so this is very different/kind of exciting. And cruisy.
It's easy to see guys stealing glimpses of each other in the lockerroom...but no one really talks unless it's with a pre-existing friend. There was one old guy giving loud, unsolicited membership advice to a young guy who was trying to be polite but obviously wanted him to go away. Super awkward and exactly why I assume you just don't start up a chat with a half naked stranger.
...but what if you see someone hot and want to do something? I guess I'm asking
1) How do you approach someone you might want to befriend or date and 2) How do you have a quicky sexual thing there with a willing partner? What do you say?
I need Dos and Don'ts I guess.
I would rather not do the second one because that could lead to an arrest....but I was in the sauna the other day and a guy with a perfect body was eying me, let his towel open and started getting hard. There were others around, old guys with their eyes closed, so he was subtle but his interest was clear. After I left, we both showered in the open shower area and he was at half mast. We gave each other peeks. But all I could think was "well, where is this going?" A crew came to clean the showers and sauna so we retreated to dry off and change, kept stealing glances...and then he left and I left. Was I supposed to just go up to him and say "hey, am I getting you hard and do you want to exchange numbers??!"
I know lockerroom sex is all about finding a safe place to go at it undetected, but if there is no such space, and therefore you don't try anything, doesn't the other person interpret that as lack of interest?
Is there A Way to approach someone while you're both dressing, or is that crazy risky and stupid?
...and how about when you're clothed and just using a machine? I figure that's the safer way to approach a guy and make small talk, but I'd like some tips on how not to come off as creepy. Are there "lines" to avoid?
Or is the gym best kept as a Look, But Don't Approach Him place.... because if you try to interact or meet up outside, then you get a reputation for being a slut or something...and if you both keep going back to the same gym after you've flirted and bombed, of course that's awkward as all hell.
I'm a really modest, old fashioned guy. I'd rather go out for coffee and get to know someone... but honestly the guys I generally meet tend to find that too involved. They want a HJ or BJ....not a dinner and a conversation first. Still, I'd like to think the next time some Adonis dude makes eyes at me, I'd know how to handle the situation and what to say when walking up to him so we could both hold onto our self respect and still meet up at his place or mine...
...but I'll also welcome advice on how to execute the quicky sauna HJ ;) Just in case.
Seriously: how do you convey "I like you but I'm not a bottom" through just your eyes?
Thanks for the help.