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American brothers, 13 and 16, killed in New Zealand volcano eruption

Berend "Ben" Hollander, 16, and his brother, Matthew, 13, are the first Americans confirmed to have died in Monday's volcano eruption in New Zealand

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by Anonymousreply 49December 14, 2019 1:41 AM

It's always tragic when white American men die.

by Anonymousreply 1December 12, 2019 9:46 PM

This is sad but it has to be asked:

What was playing on their TikTok?

by Anonymousreply 2December 12, 2019 9:47 PM

[quote]It's always tragic when white American men die.

Only if/when they're attractive, which is the case here. Tragic!

by Anonymousreply 3December 12, 2019 9:48 PM

But it's never tragic when black American men die. Right, R1?

by Anonymousreply 4December 12, 2019 9:49 PM

Best thing for them really. Their therapy was going nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 5December 12, 2019 9:58 PM

“What was playing on their TikTok?”

Forever Young

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by Anonymousreply 6December 12, 2019 10:02 PM

If only Colorado had active volcanos—no police, no press, no mess.

by Anonymousreply 7December 12, 2019 10:06 PM

It sounds like the parents perished as well. They're listed as Missing.

by Anonymousreply 8December 12, 2019 10:06 PM

Told you I was hardcore.

by Anonymousreply 9December 12, 2019 10:17 PM

How sad.

by Anonymousreply 10December 12, 2019 10:24 PM

I actually think it's for the better that the parents died too. The grief over losing both sons would be too much I think.

by Anonymousreply 11December 12, 2019 10:41 PM

Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 12December 12, 2019 11:44 PM

Why weren't they in school like all other teens? It might have saved their lives.

by Anonymousreply 13December 13, 2019 12:11 AM

R13, some schools are on winter break?

by Anonymousreply 14December 13, 2019 12:37 AM

How is a 13 year old a man R1?

by Anonymousreply 15December 13, 2019 12:56 AM

Once they get pubes and produce sperm, they are men.

by Anonymousreply 16December 13, 2019 1:13 AM

Nobody kills Americans and gets away with it. Fucking nuke that volcano into oblivion.

by Anonymousreply 17December 13, 2019 1:15 AM

Like, R.I.P. Bro.

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by Anonymousreply 18December 13, 2019 1:17 AM

Were either of them organ donors?

by Anonymousreply 19December 13, 2019 1:38 AM

The evil New Zealanders who brought them to the volcano, assuring them they were safe, should fry.

by Anonymousreply 20December 13, 2019 2:36 AM

It was a hydrothermal eruption - you only get a few seconds warning of those. It's a wrong place/wrong time scenario. Tour guides died as well.

by Anonymousreply 21December 13, 2019 2:51 AM

Flaming queens.

by Anonymousreply 22December 13, 2019 2:54 AM

I heard today that the government will pay out to the victims, regardless of country of origin, etc...

However, they have no fault laws that would prevent an outrageous lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 23December 13, 2019 3:02 AM

It's ACC, our accident compensation system. If you live or are travelling in New Zealand and have an accident, all your medical costs from any kind of specialist are covered for the duration of your treatment. I'm not sure if that takes into account the fact that foreign visitors will have ongoing treatment in their country of origin though, but you can get a payout.

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by Anonymousreply 24December 13, 2019 3:06 AM

Here's some more information about the system.

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by Anonymousreply 25December 13, 2019 3:07 AM

, some schools are on winter break?

Sweetie, it's Summer in Australia

by Anonymousreply 26December 13, 2019 3:22 AM

the one on the lefts pings

by Anonymousreply 27December 13, 2019 3:23 AM

r26 these were American teenagers

by Anonymousreply 28December 13, 2019 3:25 AM

R13 per the article they were originally from Chicago but moved to Sydney. The boys attended prep school in Sydney, about 30k per year each. They were rich.

Australia is on their summer break now but besides that they break their breaks up a lot more. They don't have 1 giant American summer and a few weeks here and there at winter. They do it like a year round school schedule which I personally fucking hated but some people love.

Imagine high fiving your brother yeah we're going on vacations, flying over and having a volcano explode and dying in it. This world can't be really real. It's too absurd. If you pitched a movie with this premise it would not be greenlit. Crazy

by Anonymousreply 29December 13, 2019 3:30 AM

What about the trans women of color that perished in the volcano?

by Anonymousreply 30December 13, 2019 3:33 AM

I have r1 blocked but from the responses it’s clear why.

For some people, race guilt is a 24/7/365 thing.

by Anonymousreply 31December 13, 2019 4:02 AM

R31 I think r1 was being facetious.

by Anonymousreply 32December 13, 2019 4:42 AM

Yikes... there is something deeply wrong with you if you think that r1 is serious.

by Anonymousreply 33December 13, 2019 4:49 AM

New Zealand is a beautiful place. but it is full of smug mediocre people that definitely don't practice the most stringent safety regulations. I wouldn't trust their health care either as they are a tiny isolated population. All injured parties should sue the fuck out of NZ for letting this happen. Some of these people were kids for fuck sakes. Been there several times and their national pride certainly out weighs common sense.

by Anonymousreply 34December 13, 2019 4:53 AM

It's Mother Nature, and like someone mentioned, you only get a few seconds of warning for this type of volcanic eruption. You take a chance visiting places like these and 99.9% of people do so, without incident. Not everything has to devolve into lawsuits...

by Anonymousreply 35December 13, 2019 4:58 AM

Why did they move to Australia?

by Anonymousreply 36December 13, 2019 4:58 AM

Well...at least a dingo didn't eat their baybay.

by Anonymousreply 37December 13, 2019 5:05 AM

[quote]these were American teenagers

Ah, they were cut then.

by Anonymousreply 38December 13, 2019 5:12 AM

R34 maybe they can sue the volcano. I hear the volcano owns a billion dollar corporation. It seems to me, and I may be wrong, but I am almost certain the volcano is at fault. There was some hearsay that the volcano handed out a disclaimer signed in writing so if that's true, there's no way the lawyers will make it rain.

by Anonymousreply 39December 13, 2019 8:23 PM

Tragic heartbreak -- two cute young guys perished!!! RiP

by Anonymousreply 40December 13, 2019 8:34 PM

The sky was so ashy that day.

by Anonymousreply 41December 13, 2019 8:40 PM

[quote]Imagine high fiving your brother yeah we're going on vacations, flying over and having a volcano explode and dying in it. This world can't be really real. It's too absurd. If you pitched a movie with this premise it would not be greenlit. Crazy

Why do you think it would make a good movie? Sounds sort of depressing to me.

by Anonymousreply 42December 13, 2019 8:46 PM

iPods?

by Anonymousreply 43December 13, 2019 9:31 PM

They didn't die immediately, they died in the hospital. I hope they weren't suffering. How horrible.

by Anonymousreply 44December 13, 2019 9:40 PM

I heard they loved this song.

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by Anonymousreply 45December 13, 2019 10:11 PM

I find death easier to accept if the victims are ugly.

by Anonymousreply 46December 13, 2019 10:18 PM

Meh, they were spoilt little rich boys, they had a better 16 years than most people's whole lives. Who cares.

by Anonymousreply 47December 13, 2019 11:31 PM

You type poor.

by Anonymousreply 48December 14, 2019 1:30 AM

The parents are some of the missing. Wonder if they were blown off the island in the blast or just incinerated.

by Anonymousreply 49December 14, 2019 1:41 AM
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