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Biden signals to aides that he would serve only a single term

[quote]Former Vice President Joe Biden’s top advisers and prominent Democrats outside the Biden campaign have recently revived a long-running debate whether Biden should publicly pledge to serve only one term, with Biden himself signaling to aides that he will serve only a single term.

[quote]According to four people who regularly talk to Biden, all of whom asked for anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters, it is virtually inconceivable that he will run for re-election in 2024, when he would be the first octogenarian president. “If Biden is elected,” a prominent adviser to the campaign said, “he’s going to be 82 years old in four years and he won’t be running for reelection.”

Are we seriously going to repeat this super expensive primary process in 2024? 🤔

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by Anonymousreply 82December 12, 2019 9:03 PM

[quote]The adviser argued that public acknowledgment of that reality could help Biden assuage younger voters, especially on the left, who are unexcited by his candidacy and fear that his nomination would serve as an eight-year roadblock to the next generation of Democrats.

[quote]By signaling that he will serve just one term and choosing a running mate and Cabinet that is young and diverse, Biden could offer himself to the Democratic primary electorate as the candidate best suited to defeat Trump as well as the candidate who can usher into power the party’s fresh faces.

[quote]“This makes Biden a good transition figure,” the adviser said. “I'd love to have an election this year for the next generation of leaders, but if I have to wait four years [in order to] to get rid of Trump, I'm willing to do it.”

[quote]Another top Biden adviser put it this way: “He’s going into this thinking, ‘I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years but if that’s not possible or doesn’t happen then I’ll run for re-election.’ But he’s not going to publicly make a one term pledge.”

by Anonymousreply 1December 11, 2019 12:41 PM

Please, if he actually manages to win the White House I guarantee he is going to run for a second term as long as he is still kicking. Once you get used to power it is hard to give it up.

by Anonymousreply 2December 11, 2019 12:44 PM

[quote]Once you get used to power it is hard to give it up.

Not just power, but he'd get coddled constantly by his staffers and most of the duties relegated to his VP. Best gig in the world. Question is if people want that.

by Anonymousreply 3December 11, 2019 12:48 PM

Warren campaign smear.

by Anonymousreply 4December 11, 2019 12:55 PM

Not in this instance. This is his campaign putting out feelers to see what the reactions to this idea are like.

by Anonymousreply 5December 11, 2019 12:57 PM

Jesus Christ, talk about shooting yourself in the foot. If he publicly pledges to serve only one term, it will kill his campaign. The fact that they’re putting this out there is terrible news in and of itself. This is worse for Joe than Anita Hill or Ukraine or any gaffes. Nobody wants to vote for a one-term president when there’s multiple younger candidates they can still choose from who will give us eight years of Democratic stability in the White House. This is just all around bad.

by Anonymousreply 6December 11, 2019 2:44 PM

I'm good with him serving as the safest candidate to get elected (and defeat Trump!), while picking a VP who is more progressive who he can turn things over to at any point (maybe even without finishing his term). TRUMP MUST BE DEFEATED! But personally, I think the country is yearning for real change, which Biden doesn't represent.

by Anonymousreply 7December 11, 2019 2:56 PM

So are we to assume his VP would be running for president in 2024, then? Or do you think she'd get primaried? In other words, wouldn't that make the 2020 election kinda about her future presidency as well?

by Anonymousreply 8December 11, 2019 2:59 PM

Yeah, no, most of the country is moderate. Obama and Nancy recognize this and have even commented that the party needs to come to the center. The two progressive candidates, combined, only have just over 30% of the vote. It was also moderates that gave the house it's majority.

Twitter isn't reality.

by Anonymousreply 9December 11, 2019 3:02 PM

That’s just one part of how weird and complicated things would get if we hand the nomination to someone who pledges to be a one-term lame duck, R8.

by Anonymousreply 10December 11, 2019 3:05 PM

I don’t care whether he intends to run for a second term or not, you fucking LIE and say he’ll do it anyway. Otherwise the stench of death and fragility will hang over him all throughout the general election. Voters will question whether he can even make it through one term.

Why are these advisers “privately acknowledging” that he won’t run again? Fucking keep your trap shut and tow the line! I don’t care how believable it may be. “Joe has such a strong heart, I don’t doubt for a second he’ll run for re-election after he spends four years restoring American democracy.” Trump’s people lie all fucking day and night for him! Once again Biden and his camp make life more complicated than it has to be.

by Anonymousreply 11December 11, 2019 3:10 PM

Dear OP: In the United States we have elections every four years. Yes, regardless who is elected, we will go through the super-expensive primary process again.

As for Biden, it was only a matter of time when he torpedoes his campaign. Yes, please announce you're only running for one term and see how it plays out. Bye Joe!

by Anonymousreply 12December 11, 2019 3:10 PM

I'm sorry but I recall that he mentioned this long ago at the beginning of his campaign and no one was freaking out about it. So please keep stockpiling kitchen sinks.

by Anonymousreply 13December 11, 2019 3:14 PM

[quote]Yes, regardless who is elected, we will go through the super-expensive primary process again.

r12 Erm, what now? You do know that the Dem primary won't be repeated in 2024 if Biden is elected in 2020 and then decides to run again, right?

Get your basic facts right before you decide to "dear" me.

by Anonymousreply 14December 11, 2019 3:16 PM

[quote]I'm sorry but I recall that he mentioned this long ago at the beginning of his campaign and no one was freaking out about it. So please keep stockpiling kitchen sinks.

Yes, literally mentioned in OP:

[quote]Former Vice President Joe Biden’s top advisers and prominent Democrats outside the Biden campaign [bold]have recently revived a long-running debate[/bold] whether Biden should publicly pledge to serve only one term, with Biden himself signaling to aides that he will serve only a single term.

by Anonymousreply 15December 11, 2019 3:18 PM

Yeah, r13, I recall the same thing. It was always a given that it was one and done. I assume the angst now is because Warren is dropping in the polls and Bernie is isn't moving the needle the way Biden has been. So let's create a fake controversy.

by Anonymousreply 16December 11, 2019 3:19 PM

He won't, R6. He'll never officially pledge to only one term, he just wants to get a talking point about it out there so people can point to articles like this one when someone complains about his age. He'll be sure to pick a younger VP candidate as well.

by Anonymousreply 17December 11, 2019 3:19 PM

You can tell how beneficial it is for Biden by peeping who trumpets this news online: the rightwing trenches and leftwing socialist dark corners of the web including Twitter are gleefully spreading the article around. Wonder why?

by Anonymousreply 18December 11, 2019 3:19 PM

I don't believe he can make it through even one term. Trump will skewer his ever gaffe from the Twitter sidelines.

by Anonymousreply 19December 11, 2019 3:19 PM

No president gets anything done in one term

by Anonymousreply 20December 11, 2019 3:23 PM

r20 The biggest achievements usually do come in the first term, because they tend to lose seats in Congress in the midterms. Didn't Obama get Obamacare passed in his first two years as well?

by Anonymousreply 21December 11, 2019 3:26 PM

Anyone's first term after Trump will be restoring the country back to normalcy, rebuilding the government he broke, filling positions that have been vacant bis entire term and rebuilding foreign relations.

by Anonymousreply 22December 11, 2019 3:27 PM

r18 Okay, calm down. This is coming directly from his campaign - they are simply trying to gauge the reaction. If people are opposed, they'll come up with a strong statement refuting the idea. Primaries 101.

by Anonymousreply 23December 11, 2019 3:27 PM

If you can only serve one term, you’re too fucking old.

by Anonymousreply 24December 11, 2019 3:34 PM

R6 I agree.

by Anonymousreply 25December 11, 2019 3:41 PM

Chester A. Arthur declined to run. Why not Biden?

by Anonymousreply 26December 11, 2019 3:43 PM

This is sure to end well.

by Anonymousreply 27December 11, 2019 3:46 PM

This is all part of the the plan to foist Mayor Pete on us as the Great White Hope.

by Anonymousreply 28December 11, 2019 3:59 PM

This is all part of the the plan to foist Mayor Pete on us as the Great White Hope.

by Anonymousreply 29December 11, 2019 3:59 PM

It literally says in the article he will not pledge to serve one term r6.

by Anonymousreply 30December 11, 2019 4:01 PM

Hillary, we need you!

by Anonymousreply 31December 11, 2019 4:08 PM

We do NOT need Hillary. We have plenty of talented candidates. Virtually all of them are even willing to do the job for eight years.

I don't see any reason to vote for someone who can only serve four years. Lame duck from day one.

by Anonymousreply 32December 11, 2019 4:16 PM

It says he’s still thinking about it, R30. Do you not see the headline? He should not be thinking about this shit at all. There should be no debate within his campaign. Bernie Sanders is older and just had a fucking heart attack, and do you hear anything about his advisers questioning whether he’ll run for two terms? The continued discussion within the Biden camp signals indecision over the issue, and it starts with the boss who refuses to forcefully end any internal debate over the issue whenever it may come up.

by Anonymousreply 33December 11, 2019 4:18 PM

This was brought up even before he officially announced his candidacy. It’s not new.

I agree it’s terrible. If you’re too sick or weak to work for eight years, then you’re too sick and weak to be hired for four. It’s the most complicated job in the world, especially after Trump gets through ruining everything he can get his hands on.

It’s not a job for a sickly, weak old man. I’ll vote for Joe if he’s the nominee, but I’ve always been worried about this. I actually voted for him in the primary when he ran years ago. But he was much younger then, in his prime, and that candidacy went nowhere.

We need to have a constitutional amendment with an upper age limit. Republicans might even vote for it. These Methuselah for President campaigns don’t work for anybody.

Health aside, the world has changed a lot since the 1990s, personal computers and the internet. We now have to worry about foreign countries hacking our utilities and satellites, and other threats that didn’t even exist a couple of decades ago. We need someone younger. And I’m old so I know.

by Anonymousreply 34December 11, 2019 4:30 PM

R14 OP: If Biden is elected president in 2020, and decides to run in 2024, we still have to go through the whole election process again. He doesn't get a second term because he wants to.

by Anonymousreply 35December 11, 2019 4:33 PM

[QUOTE] I agree it’s terrible. If you’re too sick or weak to work for eight years, then you’re too sick and weak to be hired for four.

It makes one wonder, R34, if there’s some health issue we don’t know about. And if I, as a Biden supporter, have to question such a thing then how will voters react when rightwingers start pumping out conspiracy theories that the newly nominated Joe Biden is near death? I don’t understand why else he would want to privately telegraph to the Democratic establishment that he only has four years in him.

by Anonymousreply 36December 11, 2019 4:42 PM

And a big talking point in the 2024 election would be, “he’s too old, vote for me, Nikki Haley.”

People need to think ahead. Somebody young in 2024 has a good shot against him. Imagine all the gaffes video they’ll have to work with: “Here’s Joe, saying mmmph instead of milf, or calling black people ‘clean’.” We already know it’s going to happen. Why do we do this to ourselves?

by Anonymousreply 37December 11, 2019 4:43 PM

2024 is a long time away. We can cross that bridge when we get to it. For now the only thing that matters is November 3, 2020 and Joe Biden should be doing everything to convince us that he’s the man to get us over the finish line. This is not the way to do it. He doesn’t seem to understand that talking about not running in 2024, which is entirely irrelevant, hurts us NOW! Why keep allowing the wound to fester? Just say you’re running in 2024. You can always revisit the issue later.

If he can’t tackle simple things like this, then maybe he has no business being President in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 38December 11, 2019 4:54 PM

Presidents run for a second term, i'm pretty sure is just a campaign tactic, same when he praises republicans. Do you guys really think he doesn't know that republicans can be dicks, he's just trying to win over that small group of republicans that might vote for him.

by Anonymousreply 39December 11, 2019 5:06 PM

A campaign tactic? What on earth is there to gain from this, politically speaking?

by Anonymousreply 40December 11, 2019 5:13 PM

r40 Placating folks who don't like Trump or Biden or folks who don't like anyone that's running. Probably also has something to do with easing concerns about his age that he'll only be there 4 years.

by Anonymousreply 41December 11, 2019 5:28 PM

I believe it. Think about it - IF he did one term, he’d be 82 by the end of the first term. Do you really want someone who’s already showing the signs of losing his marbles running the country from 82-86 years of age???

This old man (and Bernie and Liz) need to go away and let Pete be the nominee. Enough old ass people.

by Anonymousreply 42December 11, 2019 5:34 PM

The Wokesters are desperate in their efforts to find reasons to tear Biden down, because most Democrats like him more than they like the Woke candidates.

They would rather see Trump get four more years than Warren and Sanders lose to Biden.

by Anonymousreply 43December 11, 2019 5:39 PM

r42, the Butty Geek will never be the nominee. Not when 90% of registered democrats want someone else as nominee.

by Anonymousreply 44December 11, 2019 5:40 PM

But making some other poor person start from scratch with well established, well known Nikki Haley is unfair to the party and the country.

And who is he going to pick for VP? It sounds like he’s more interested in getting an affirmative action VP (black or a woman of color) as opposed to someone that can bring other regions of the country or could take over and win in 2024. Stacey Abrams seems to think she’s guaranteed a VP position. Why, when there are others who are either running and being vetted now, or have more to offer?

Look at the microscopic attention Buttigieg is getting. And he should. But put Abrams in there with no vetting, and who knows what the Republicans are going to drag up. Has she been secretly hiring illegal nannies, or using campaign funds to build her dream house? Does she have health issues? I don’t know.

If she wants to be VP, get off her ass and run. Let people see if they like you. She could be another Sarah Palin, looks good on paper, but when people start investigating, God knows what’s in there.

by Anonymousreply 45December 11, 2019 5:40 PM

[quote] Are we seriously going to repeat this super expensive primary process in 2024? 🤔

We would have to repeat it even if he did run again, you idiot.

by Anonymousreply 46December 11, 2019 5:41 PM

[quote] No president gets anything done in one term

LBJ sure did.

by Anonymousreply 47December 11, 2019 5:41 PM

POLITICO journalists who are co-hosting next week’s Democratic presidential debate did an AMA on Reddit earlier today Someone asked them about this, so it'll be interesting to see if this is brought up at the debate.

[quote]Q: Joe Biden suggested today that if elected he wouldn't seek a second term, and in 2016 Bernie Sanders made a similar statement. Do you see ceding a potential incumbent advantage in 2024 as something that could have an impact on the 2020 primary?

[quote]A: Might not be the most satisfying answer, but I'm not sure! Just off the top of our heads, we couldn't recall a major candidate making that pledge in recent memory. It could help mollify concerns about a candidate's age this primary, certainly. It would also, more than ever, put a lot of pressure on their vice presidential pick. VPs aren't always assumed to be the heir apparent, but probably would be with a president who pledges to only serve one term.

[quote]Check out POLITICO's reporting this morning, where Ryan Lizza reported that "Biden has for now settled on an alternative strategy: quietly indicating that he will almost certainly not run for a second term while declining to make a promise that he and his advisers fear could turn him into a lame duck and sap him of his political capital." And, for clarity's sake: Biden's deputy campaign manager pushed back on the story in a tweet earlier this A.M. -- Zach

by Anonymousreply 48December 11, 2019 5:47 PM

LBJ had a lot of Democratic support in Congress. He was in Congress for years himself and was a wheeler and dealer and famous for it. Wikipedia:

“Johnson won election to the US House of Representatives in 1937. Johnson won election to the United States Senate from Texas in 1948 after winning the Democratic Party's nomination by an extremely narrow margin that was manufactured by friendly political machines. He was appointed to the position of Senate Majority Whip in 1951. He became the Senate Minority Leader in 1953 and the Senate Majority Leader in 1955. He became known for his domineering personality and the "Johnson treatment", his aggressive coercion of powerful politicians to advance legislation.“

He also was the Speaker of a group called “the little Congress,” basically a lobby group inside Congress. He went from that to VP to President. He knew Congress inside and out and had lots of friends there.

Then JFK died and he used his death as an excuse to pass a lot of previously impassable bills, out of respect for Kennedy, who wanted them passed. He guilted people into it. He was a ruthless negotiator.

Nobody today has that kind of pull.

by Anonymousreply 49December 11, 2019 5:48 PM

Biden is such a losing proposition. Just a nice old second-fiddle of a guy who has nothing to say but obama good Trump bad.

by Anonymousreply 50December 11, 2019 5:51 PM

LBJ = Think Nancy Pelosi, but with a set of thumbscrews and brass knuckles in his pocket.

And he did hate people.

by Anonymousreply 51December 11, 2019 5:52 PM

[quote]We would have to repeat it even if he did run again, you idiot.

No, we would not have to repeat the primary process in 2024. If he says he's running again and no one contests it, there's no real primary.

by Anonymousreply 52December 11, 2019 7:55 PM

r49: Excuses, excuses. He did it all in a term and a year. Deal with it.

by Anonymousreply 53December 11, 2019 10:07 PM

Only Republicans call facts “excuses.”

by Anonymousreply 54December 11, 2019 10:15 PM

Geriatrics will be our downfall.

by Anonymousreply 55December 11, 2019 10:15 PM

r54, if it makes you feel any better to call me inaccurate names, then go right ahead, dear.

by Anonymousreply 56December 11, 2019 10:19 PM

Biden doesn't want the Democrats gaining "too much" power because he feels it would be unfair.

You can't make this up.

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by Anonymousreply 57December 11, 2019 10:21 PM

I have no idea why this should be any sort of problem.

by Anonymousreply 58December 11, 2019 10:22 PM

He just hammered the final nail in the coffin of his presidential aspirations. Americans are not going to vote for anyone who is literally saying that they can't serve out their terms. They'll stick with Trump before they elect that.

by Anonymousreply 59December 11, 2019 10:23 PM

[quote] They'll stick with Trump before they elect that.

Why? What possible reason?

by Anonymousreply 60December 11, 2019 10:24 PM

He probably found out he has a terminal illness and knows that he will not be around for a second term.

by Anonymousreply 61December 11, 2019 10:25 PM

This is a non issue. It's some shit the media will fixate on to create a story. You have how many candidates over 70? Or politely putting it, mid-seventies, late seventies. I think we, as voters are aware of their advanced ages and the possibility that any one of them may very well be a one term POTUS either by choice or by necessity. This is just bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 62December 11, 2019 10:33 PM

This whole to-do of him running, and repeatedly saying ridiculous things, mumbling and sputtering, talking about his hairy legs and all, is just setting us up to believe he's got dementia, so when the whole bag of shit blows up and all his dirty deeds are exposed, he won't serve prison time. The Hunter thing is just the tip of the iceberg. The never ever expected an outsider in the Whitehouse. He's covering his ass. Expect his odd behavior to get worse soon. Tax payer's $$$ goes to Urkraine, and then goes back to official's family. Again, Hunter is just the tip of the iceberg. They're all garbage.

by Anonymousreply 63December 11, 2019 10:41 PM

Yeah. And Trump was chosen by God, right, r63?

by Anonymousreply 64December 11, 2019 10:43 PM

Is that right, Comrade R63? How’s the weather in Moscow?

by Anonymousreply 65December 11, 2019 10:47 PM

Everyone you disagree with is a Russian hack. Got it, mess.

by Anonymousreply 66December 11, 2019 10:51 PM

A single term for Joe is one too many.

by Anonymousreply 67December 11, 2019 10:53 PM

[quote] A single term for Joe is one too many.

Because...?

by Anonymousreply 68December 11, 2019 10:59 PM

This actually makes it easier to vote for him if he is the nominee if he picks a woman VP. I am tired of men and would like to see a female POTUS.

by Anonymousreply 69December 11, 2019 11:02 PM

The Republicans will dump all the debt they've been running-up for 3 years on the poor 2020 Democratic winner. Then corporations- always in bed with the Russiapublicans- will create a recession. Layoffs, foreclosures and bankruptcies follow.

Welcome to 2021.

by Anonymousreply 70December 11, 2019 11:31 PM

The *average age* of congressional Democrats is 71 years old. Unlike the Republicans, the Democrats didn't bother to cultivate their next generation. Even now they won't let the handful of congressional Gen Xers run anyone for president without fucking them over (bye-bye Kristen, Beto, Kamala, Corey ...). We're all going to pay for this.

by Anonymousreply 71December 12, 2019 12:05 AM

Those people aren’t being “fucked over.”

Some have fucked themselves over, like Beto saying he was going to seize people’s guns, which would not only bury him, but the entire party, and Kamala criticizing Biden about busing decades ago, which was unnecessarily divisive. She wasn’t really promoting a lot of her own policies in a consistent manner either. And I think Cory Booker using Rosario Dawson as a beard didn’t help. It’s phony.

I see people on twitter now referring to Lindsey Graham as Miss Lindsey. People in the closet are not fooling anyone any more, and if you’ll lie about that, what else are you going to lie about? Graham is the perfect example of why being in the closet is bad for politicians. He’s a blackmail target.

On top of that, Rosario isn’t really politician’s sidekick material, she’s got her own ideas that don’t necessarily line up with his.

Gillibrand dropped out once she realized she was not catching on, and I respect her for that. She did not have money to continue anyway.

Nobody is “not letting” these people run. They mostly ran out of money, because people didn’t support their policies. They’re young, they’ll learn and can try again if they want. This happens every primary season. The weaker ones are weeded out. That’s the whole point of the primaries.

by Anonymousreply 72December 12, 2019 3:03 AM

There are younger people who should have run, but unfortunately due to impeachment duties or being in a seat we would lose, they can’t. Sherrod Brown (67) is in a seat we don’t want to lose. Adam Schiff (59) would be great, but he’s an important part of the impeachment trial and can’t be spared. Same with a lot of other Congress members.

Claire McCaskell (age 66, Senator of Missouri twelve years) might make good VP material, but I don’t know if she’d do it.

by Anonymousreply 73December 12, 2019 3:11 AM

They're not "young." In no other area of life are people in this age group considered young. And there's only a handful of them in office. All the other offices that people have managed to prize from wizened Democratic hands have gone to Millennials. By fucked over I meant the lack of support from their own party -- it's ludicrous that Biden, Warren, and Bloomberg are running. (I don't count Sanders as a Democrat. He's a cult leader. Of course he'll keep running until he falls over dead.)

by Anonymousreply 74December 12, 2019 3:15 AM

I love this idea, but American and their media are too stupid to consider a restoration presidency.

by Anonymousreply 75December 12, 2019 11:30 AM

I'm old. Not Medicare old, but really close. I lived through Watergate. I was 14 in 1972 and my parents were very active in the Democratic Party, friends of the governor, etc. I remember when McGovern ran, and we got our asses handed to us by Nixon. Nixon wanted to run against McGovern. He did. We got creamed. We set ourselves up for it partly due to party reforms that blew up in our face, and a candidate too far Left.

When Americans face a period of turbulence, it is usually followed by "benign neglect." Caretakers. Guys like Ford, and Carter. So right now, Biden makes sense. And there are some Republicans who are not too rigid in their extremist views, who would let it happen. Of course Biden is a one term President. He's being sent in to calm things down, and stabilize the ship of state.

We have Biden, Buttigeig, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg, and possibly Booker, all of whom are moderate to Liberal, Center-Left. The Bernies and Elizabeths not only cannot win, they would not be able to govern. We need Bernie & Elizabeth in the conversation. They are great for framing issues and seeing into the future. But they are not who we need as nominees. If they get the nomination, they will be McGovern 2020.

I've worked in politics almost my whole life. We need, quite frankly, another Bill Clinton. He really knew how to get things done. A consummate politician. Yes, I know. But if we had another Clinton type without the baggage, he could be very effective.

by Anonymousreply 76December 12, 2019 12:01 PM

[quote]He doesn’t seem to understand that talking about not running in 2024

But he HASN'T talked about not running in 2024!

This entire thread is fantasy and wholly unsubstantiated rumor.

by Anonymousreply 77December 12, 2019 12:53 PM

Hey. We need to be smarter. We already know they will lie, cheat, and steal. They will divide us, scare us, and undermine, sabotage, exploit our weaknesses, and pull out every dirty trick they can think of. We have to be smarter. We should turn off the noise machine. Period. We're Democrats, or at least independents with a progressive lean. We know what they stand for. We know their proposals. There is nothing really to learn or to be gained from the constant media hype of a horse race. They want to create spectacle and controversy. it sells ads. IMO, if I check in with the Dem candidates about once a week to keep things on track, so to speak, that's it.I want to focus on what I can do in my home state right now. I want to boost Democratic members of Congress in red districts, I want to make sure we get a good state legislature to fix some of the shit that's broken. I'm not going to get caught up in the media's bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 78December 12, 2019 1:04 PM

Hes too old for even one term.

by Anonymousreply 79December 12, 2019 1:20 PM

So he would be a lame duck president the minute he takes the oath of office. Yep - he'll get a LOT accomplished.

by Anonymousreply 80December 12, 2019 1:22 PM

I honestly do not know why ANYONE over the age of 70 would sign up to run for President. Even 70 seems to old if you factor in 2 terms for 8 years. I cannot WAIT to get out of the daily rat race, and I am certain my life is not even close to that of a President...well, except for our current pResident...

by Anonymousreply 81December 12, 2019 4:56 PM

It is sickening , gross really to watch old white men unable to let go. Rudy, Trump, Bernie, Biden, BLoomberg.

by Anonymousreply 82December 12, 2019 9:03 PM
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