Pete Buttigieg on Institutional Racism, Economic Inequality, and White Supremacy

Wanted to post this in the original thread, which of course got deleted because the conversation got out of control.

Couldn't you have used an existing thread to discuss these two racist cunts?

r2 Literally explained at r1, race-baiting troll.

I'm so sick of him playing into all of the racial questions. He's focused so heavily on what minorities think of him that it's distracting him from the causes that have gotten him this far in the first place, and it's going to cost him the race. Putting the majority of his attention on racial issues is going to distract from his other platforms and alienate him as a candidate. We're watching his chances of presidency slide down that slippery slope because he's too worried about what black people think of him.

He should totally ignore black people. They’re never going to vote for him.

When every conversation is about blacks and their issues, white people will look elsewhere.

That’s how we got Trump after eight years of listening to Michelle Obama call white people racists.

This is still the primary, not the general - those Democrats who bother to come to his rallies do in fact care about their fellow (black) Americans, shocking as that might sound to you. He's been bringing up his Douglass Plan in rural Iowa and they sure as hell don't seem to mind.

Yes, the general election will involve convincing the swing voters who might not be interested in these issues, but we're not there yet. So you might as well talk about non-white issues right now.

R6 Because the majority of his platforms don't have anything to do with race. They're great platforms, but it's like he and his team are so frightened by the fact that black voters are disinterested in him, that he's abandoning them completely and focusing almost solely on racial issues. What he should be doing right now is drawing in the eyes of the white uptight people of the midwest and the southern states, considering all of the causes he's championing are things they exclusively care about. It's a gamble, considering he's openly gay, but it's just as much of a gamble of trying to appeal to black voters while openly gay. It's already been established that most black voters are voting for either Biden or Bernie anyways. He should stop wasting his time trying to push the boulder up the hill when it's just going to roll back down after he's done, and instead focus on appealing to the blue collar and the middle class white folks that will be looking for candidates that care about their interests, which are rarely ever found in the democratic party and leads most of them to become deplorables. Not to mention one of his biggest platforms is supposedly trying to fix the divide in this country caused by the 2016 election and the two party system. Trying desperately to appeal to uninterested black voters doesn't represent that and is going to work against that cause.

This is why this man is so awesome and should be our next president. He doesn't run from criticism and he is willing to have a conversation about difficult issues. Plus, he is so fucking smart. And the fact that he riles so many progressives up makes me like him even more. Go Pete go!

Go vote for a fucking Republican, R8. Oh, and die in a grease fire while you're at that.

Pete made that dipshit look like a total dumb ass. That guy was in way over his head trying to have a discussion with Pete.

r7 He's not neglecting anyone, as you can see from his policy drops - comprehensive K12 education plan being the latest one. His climate change plan addresses farmers, who are a big deal in Iowa, he released a plan for free college, a plan for women (50% of the population), retirement plan (also important in Iowa)... I don't understand this exclusionary mentality. He's talking about everything to everyone and no one is losing anything in the process. Though I'm sure his strategic team has identified certain areas and demographic groups where he needs to work extra hard - campaigns' whole strategies are usually formed through the lens of electoral votes, so they might not make perfect sense to us in the moment.

Also, black voters aren't disinterested in him, they just haven't heard about him yet to form an opinion. That's why he's investing heavily in ads in South Carolina, because his Name ID is so low there. That's also the reason Steyer is currently polling better than Warren among black voters in South Carolina - because his ads are fucking everywhere.

R8 It's the fact that he doesn't just let the criticism roll off his back that's the problem. He isn't having conversations, he's talking to brick walls. He'd be a great president but this has made it clear that he'll never get that far. The racial shit that should've only been the basis of maybe one or two speeches about what he can do for black people and how he plans to accomplish it has completely sidetracked his campaign.

R12 You said it all right there. He needs to quit wasting time with these assholes.

When you are President, you are President for all people. Even the ones who don't support you and didn't vote for you. You don't give up on anyone and this is why he is a great candidate and would be an amazing POTUS.

This video reminds me of the three things initially liked about Pete: his demeanor, his intelligence, and his earnestness.

The two things that have threatened to derail him in the past month or so are, one, a perception of craven pivoting and, two, ignorance of minority culture. What I'm hoping this video displays is a return to his original sensibilities which, in my opinion, got lost as people who didn't/don't/won't EVER like him seized on his gaffes and lack of specificity rather than the intent behind his words.

The problem with this exchange is that it is just too verbose for most people. He comes across as wonky and a bit dour even as he does a fair job of explaining his motivations and attempts for equanimity. The later trait especially is not going to endear him to the left and the former may not be enough to overcome the skepticism of those who only know him from his controversies.

That being said, I am going to be Pollyanna-ish and hope that this is who he really is and that he would rather lose with integrity than be guilty of the pivot some have accused him of. My hope is that he is truly guided by his faith and will craft policy proposals to reflect that. Will those proposals be enough to get him to the finish line? Honestly, I doubt it. Will they be able to help shape the conversation? Honesty...I hope so.

Harriot, on the other hand, is toast. He tried to present himself as the oracle of black America but he outkicked his coverage with the provocative headline and has now incurred the wrath of black twitter with this video.

[quote]Also, black voters aren't disinterested in him, they just haven't heard about him yet to form an opinion.

How long are we going to have to keep hearing this??

This campaign has been going on for almost a year now, and he has been a frontrunner for many months now.

“Black people haven’t heard about him yet” is an excuse to cover their homophobia.

r16 His level of name unfamiliarity in South Carolina was at 60% in the latest poll there. I think those of us who are more into this whole election process sometimes overestimate how many people tune into the primary and when. The truth is that a lot of the voters will look at the news out of Iowa on February 4th and they still won't make a decision. That's why it's so important to do well in the first four states, because that leaves an impression on people.

I'm sure some DLers are going to love this take published today.

[quote]Pete Buttigieg's real 'black problem': He has been convicted of white privilege

I'm so glad that white gays are smart enough to not beat around the bush and confront the real reason he polls low with black people. It's time to call a spade a spade. It's homophobia.

Because that's the easy way out and allows you to confirm your own biases R19.

As a neutral European observer (probably missing a lot of nuance and context), the video and the comments below make one thing clear to me: It appears that many (some?) of his African Americans detractors are simply motivated by some sort of animus against Buttigieg. The negative response seems completely disproportionate to what he does/did, whereas other candidates seem to get a pass on similar issues. Buttigieg simply cannot please them because he never had a chance in the first place. Nothing will be good enough, it seems. Whether it's homophobia, I cannot judge... From an outside perspective, however, it seems strange that other candidates who are just as "privileged" or "elitist" as Buttigieg are treated differently.

R9, you're gross.

A black lesbian and a white gay walk into a political forum....

I love how Pete never lets any criticism go unchallenged and unanswered.

Booker has a bigger Black problem that Buttigieg. Pete is new on the national scene. He doesn't have 40 years of mediocrity like Biden who's riding Obama's ghost for all its worth. Warren doesn't fare any better. And Kamala is gone.

Blacks booted Kamala from the race. Just what the Republicans wanted.

It is not that we blacks don't know him. We just don't like him and we have no interest in him no matter how hard the media pushed him.

R27 = Cough, Cough homophobia.

Be honest, you don't like him because he is gay, it's as clear as day even to outsiders of this country. What has he done that is so outrageous that any of the other candidates have not? The rampant homophobia in the black community is being exposed and you don't like it. That's not his fault, you are not the victim in this argument dears, you are the perpetrators. Time to look in the mirror.

Yes, yes, keep hating on Pete, I could use another 4 years in the White House advocating for the minority whites who have been under represented and discriminated against by blacks milking the system.

You guys really think Pete isn't disliked by the black community because of homophobia? Morons. I thought people on a gay forum would know better than that.

R30, you are giving simplistic answers to complicated questions and issues. Yes, some black people do not like Pete because he's gay, but it's probably no bigger a percentage than the number of any other racial or ethnic group that doesn't like Pete because he's gay.

The problem with polling is that polls tend to break white people down into all sorts of sub groups. College educated whites, non college educated whites, whites 18-34, whites 35 to 60, suburban whites, rural whites, some polls even break whites down by religion.

But for black people it's just black people. Granted, we are a 12% of the country minority, but we don't get the benefit of subcategories. We're just one demographic -- black people and that paints us all with a certain brush. Older black people are all in for Biden, but that's not the case for younger black people who seem to be leaning towards Bernie just like their white millennial counterparts. Some of us are heavily in favor of Pete. Some like Warren, especially the older college educated blacks that I know. Some black people don't like Pete for reasons that have zero to do with him being gay.

This is not to excuse black homophobia and I'm not going to say that it doesn't exist especially among the churchy set. But polling isn't fair to us. It lumps us all together and makes it seems like all black people think alike. Which just isn't true.

R31, thanks for the explanation!

[quote]you are giving simplistic answers to complicated questions and issues. Yes, some black people do not like Pete because he's gay, but it's probably no bigger a percentage than the number of any other racial or ethnic group that doesn't like Pete because he's gay.

WRONG. That's just factually not true and a lie that people like Al Sharpton have been peddling every time people point that out. It's a diversion argument like No Quid Pro Quo. Fact is homophobia dose exist everywhere but it is exponentially high in the black community.

Of course not ALL black people are homophobic. Just like not ALL republicans are homophobic. Majorities matter, though, because they make up the collective voice of whatever party/race/religion they belong to.

R28. Like I care about your hurtful feelings. You can point out black homophobia all you want. Most blacks don't care. We don't like petey for various reasons. We are Biden or Bernie or bust.

Various reasons = gay and white

R35 Which is exactly why we're saying Pete's wasting his time and should move on. Black voters are a lost cause and pandering to them is a waste of money. They've made up their minds, like you said, they're Biden or Bernie or bust. Pete should be spending his time trying to appeal to the white voters that don't like him since they're more likely to listen to him and change their minds. They don't buy into Biden's bullshit or Bernie's empty promises like black voters do. Pete should just move on to greener pastures. It's the fact that he's wasting valuable time talking to brick walls that'll cost him his chance at the presidency.

Thank you, R23 Call me crazy, but I enjoy hearing both of them speak. There's a hell of a lot of wonkiness buried in there, but I find that hopeful.

[quote]Most blacks don't care. We don't like petey for various reasons. We are Biden or Bernie or bust.

This is why blacks in the US will remain in poverty for the rest of their lives. Cutting off their nose to spite their face will get Trump re-elected. Careful what you wish for.

R39. They remain in poverty because they refuse to vote for petey boy. Bitch have a seat somewhere. We don't have to vote for him while there are better candidates. We don't owe you or petey boy nothing. Besides most blacks are not in poverty. Such racist bullshit talk.

The whole blacks vs Buttigieg is so tired already.

Pete needs as many supporters as possible. Socialists won’t vote for him in the primaries- forget them. Old blacks and lazy blacks (same for lazy whites who want to get paid $25 for flipping burgers) won’t vote for him, so forget trying to appeal to these people.

Smart, hard-working, level-headed people of all races love Pete. Those are the people who will get him to be our candidate. The socialists and homophobes will have to vote for him in the general election anyway.

Socialists and homophobes would rather have Trump than a smart person that doesn’t check off every single box.

America is over if people are going to say, “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.” And it looks like that’s where we are right now.

I dislike Pete. But if he somehow magically wins the nomination. I will cut a bitch to vote for him. As should ALL of you cunts. Same with any Dem nominee. We’re not fucking going through this shit again where people get butthurt when their candidate doesn’t win and either stays home or votes for Tulsi (cuz you know that cunt will run third party.)

He's the only viable gay candidate for president any of us will see in our lifetimes, and to think otherwise is delusional. So the willingness of people in his own "community" to slander his reputation and sabotage his campaign is ... enlightening. Works well as an object lesson to gay kids: stay in your lane.

he is soooo unfortunate looking. what a hideous queen.

in the unlikely event that he's the nom, dems deserve to lose again.

Can someone explain to me why Pete seems to have a problem with Hispanic voters? This is always said in passing, but I haven't seen any speculation about the causes. Is it even true?

R47, I'm assuming it's the usual problem: lack of name recognition. It's hard to believe if you're an election junkie, but most people honestly aren't paying that much attention to the primary right now.

He's done Spanish-language PSA spots in his own city, so I don't know why they don't buy time for Spanish campaign ads on Univision or locally in Nevada.

It’s not just homophobia. Judging from my social media feeds, plenty of black gays dislike Mayor Pete. Several are quite explicit, calling out Pete to white gays or just rolling his perceived faults into the list of horrible things white gays are responsible for perpetuating.

This guy Pete was talking to is a moron. He says Pete is wrong when he said the black communities don't have enough positive role models for the children.

The positive role models that the black community has so many of are a bunch of rappers, professional sports stars and a bunch of criminals. If he's fine with that, I'm fine with it too. According to him the black community is more than fine. That's works out well for them because trump is going to be re-elected and no one is going to do anything for them, but again, they don't need anyone's help

Michael Harriott got his 15 minutes. Be gone!

It is literal homophobia to support any candidate other than Mayor Pete. Blacks should be ashamed of themselves. It makes me cry when I think about how ungrateful they are.

Black support Pete in South Bend. They’ll support him everywhere.

There is zero problem if you oppose Pete for his actual positions, which would be evidenced if your emotional response is similar for other candidates with left center views. Just as opposing Obama is fine but if you went after his social spending or demanded his birth certificate with racist overtones, you should not be surprised when you are called out. Mayor Pete’s views and actions do not warrant the vitriol he receives.

What is the correct amount of vitriol? Any opposition to Pete is immediately labeled homophobia, just like any criticism of Meghan Markle is deemed racism. It's lazy and stupid. There are many good candidates. Pete is one of many who happens to carry serious baggage.

R55 he virtually has no baggage

C'Mon man!

2008 Hillbots sounded a lot like the defensive r55. They would write Obama off as being an airhead, aspiring to a position he wasn’t entitled to hold, and irredeemable for sitting through Reverend Wright’s sermons. When they were rightly called out for their dogwhistles, they whined that you couldn’t criticize him without being accused of racism.

Obama was a US Senator and a professor of constitutional law. He was far more experienced and qualified than the precious Mayor Pete. Of course, acknowledging Obama's strengths is also likely a sign of bigotry in the demented world of Mayor Pete fans.

[57] and then they got off of their asses and voted for Obama when it counted

I will not be voting for that fat, unqualified black woman Stacey Abrams if she somehow ends up on the ticket.

OP I enjoyed the video. I watched the whole thing and thought that Mayor Pete showed how beautifully he can comport himself.

What is going on on Twitter right now?

It's like a BernieBro Lynch Mob

Buttigieg had a fundraiser at someone's house tonight. Bernie Bros showed up to bang on pots and yell outside. One of them broke into the house, according to the on-site pool reporter. Someone called the cops. Protesters filmed themselves being chased off by cops. New narrative: Pete calls the cops on black people!

The ultimate goal of the other campaigns is to scare off/cut off Buttigieg's funding sources. Since he's not a millionaire or billionaire like them, this is going to be problem.

What is the "right kind of gay" that these people want?

R63 this is the video of the trespassing protestor ... the entitlement and delusion on display as he demands to just be let in to a fundraiser at someone's private residence ... it's a bit disturbing actually. Seriously quite glad Pete has robust security because honestly I have concerns about these groups of people. This is feeling more and more like an ugly game of revenge for Their #1 Guy who was so unjustly scorned and shutout in 2016. There's potential for it to get actually physically dangerous.

What's the over/under Sanders will chastise this type of behavior?

Bernie is a disgusting person. He is not even a Democrat.

Buttigieg's campaign has been careful, up to now, to not release addresses or names, but the other campaigns used the press to pressure them into being "more transparent." The Bernie Bros also found the very expensive funding for his security detail in the FEC reports, and Bernie Bro twitter has been having a field day spreading around rumors that Buttigieg is secretly CIA and is hiring mercenaries and some shit.

Now that they're getting names and addresses, they've been trying to goad the press into revealing more information about Buttigieg's security/shaming him into cutting back. Bernie's supporters really are cultists, and Buttigieg does get threats -- that's been obliquely acknowledged. This is getting dangerous.

R64 You don't get it, there is no "right kind of gay" to these people. All gays are the wrong kind of gay to them.

The people that dislike Pete are responsible for enabling monsters like Bernie.

r68 how do we know these aren't Republican aligned groups stirring up trouble. We know Russians pushed hard for BLM in 2016. Same thing can be happening here. I'm no Bernie supporter, but some of the Pete fans on here have shown their true racist colors. When not demonizing blacks, they turn on progressives. Obama's team didn't spend half as much time complaining as some of Pete's supporters, but maybe it's because black people know life is hard. Pete's supporters have this sense of entitlement about him, that voters should fall in line before we've had a chance to fall in love. If you keep up these consistent tribal attacks you may end up turning off other members of the Party, like the Bernie-Bros did.

On second thought, some of the racist pro-Pete voices on these threads are probably other Russian troll farm employees trying to cause more racial division before 2020. Dems do not win nationally when blacks stay home, like it or not. So Pete needs to keep answering the questions from all segments of his the Party and Dems as a whole need to be more transparent and less willing to cover for wealthy donors and corporations.

r70 or maybe they like the other 12 candidates in the race, binary choices are so 2016. If you wanted a coronation or head-to-head match up, then Pete and everyone else of that mindset should have run against Hillary.

Why is this Harriott guy calling Pete a lying MF. Who else is he targeting like this? Did he write anything about any other candidates?

The author and interviewer is an asshole - and Pete walked right into it. Nothing he said was going to be good enough.

[quote]What is the "right kind of gay" that these people want?

I was tempted to think one who isn't white and male, but that's not right. Democrat primary activists don't find those qualities toxic in Bernie or Biden as they do in Pete.

The "right kind of gay" is probably one who isn't.

Oh god, please tell me we aren't reverting to the "republicans and russians are behind the stupidity of aggressive liberals" argument again. Boris isn't the boogeyman, ya know. Sometimes you people create problems for yourselves. If you'd take some responsibility for your fuck-ups every once in a while maybe the rest of the world wouldn't see Americans as violent immature retards.

R71, it doesn't matter in the end who is instigating all this bullshit -- Russians or whoever. All that matters is that Bernie's people are adopting it wholeheartedly and unquestioningly. I honestly do not care whether you or anyone else LIKES Buttigieg. The point is that he, his husband, and their staff do not deserve to get maimed or killed because they had the effrontery to run a campaign in the same election as Bernie Sanders.

r75 it has been proven that Russians pushed hard for the BLM drama that lead activists to storm Hillary and Bernie events. They never got close to a Republican stage, I wonder why? Because Republicans were already bought and paid for by the Russians. Look at the NRA. Now, the 2016 Russian flavor of the month before the Primary, was Reparations. That quickly died out from Twitter and the internet after Dems successfully took the House. Now, we have a solid candidate like Pete and the he's not black enough Twitter and online push has begun. This will ensure that blacks turn against centrist in the general. There were plenty of passionate people that joined those bandwagons, but they had a strong online presence, similar to what I'm seeing today with Pete.

My eyes and ears told me that the Russians interfered with the 2016 election. No official has said that their actions have stopped. Many people don't like Pete, but the racist comments from some DL posters, coupled with the little nuggets about Pete's anti-black records (however flimsy) seems suspect on both sides.

r76 if they feel unsafe they can ask for Secrete Service for protection. I doubt a Bernie Bro is gonna give him a Kennedy exit. But, it could happen, and everyone that runs for office knows the risk. Right now, things don't seem any more crazier than any other election. You just seem personally connected to the candidate, which is understandable.

Oh and if Pete isn't the nominee, we might be able to make this guy our first gay POTUS in 2024 or 2028. We have more options coming down the pipeline.

And he will have an easier time relating to blacks and Hispanics (?), since they are a a part of his family!

right kind of gay would he someone handsome and charismatic for one.

[quote]The problem with polling is that polls tend to break white people down into all sorts of sub groups. College educated whites, non college educated whites, whites 18-34, whites 35 to 60, suburban whites, rural whites, some polls even break whites down by religion. But for black people it's just black people.

r31 This is complete nonsense. Do you know what 'cross-tabs' are?? Every reputable polling inst of course DOES collect all the demographic data they can about every person polled, and AGE, RACE, and EDUCATION are absolutely collected for EVERYONE. Have you ever actually looked at polling data, not just read some "journalist's" dumb interpretation of polling data (which the journalist probably didn't even take the time to see the raw data either)??

In 2008 exit polls, democrats were asked whether they supported same-sex marriage. Every demographic group had majority support for same-sex marriage except for one. Guess which.

in 2017 PRI did a survey of 40,000 US Adults. Here's one of the findings, via the linked 538 article:

[quote]A majority of black people (52 percent), Hispanics (61 percent) and white people (63 percent) back same-sex marriage.

So, on average, black people support same-sex marriage about 10% less than latinos and whites (both much larger groups, population wise). Put another way, on average, whether any given black person supports same-sex marriage is essentially a coin flip.

It's NOT racist to acknowledge this. I'm not saying all black people are homophobic and anyone who doesn't support mayor pete is likewise, but I AM saying that the dishonest shell game some people partake in to wave away the real, existing, and statistically GREATER homophobia in the black community is reprehensible. Yes, there are white homophobes and latino homophobes and even asian homophobes, etc etc, but the DATA, the cold unfeeling DATA consistently show that there is a statistical bias towards homophobia in the black community.

To paraphrase Dr. Now, the data don't lie, people do.

r82 how come it's hard core bias when there is 52% support but not considered hard core bias when hispanics only have 61% support or white's 63%? I think what you fail to mention, is that unlike whites and hispanics, blacks have a proven track record of loyalty to the Democratic Party. Homophobic whites and latinos can swing to Republicans, while blacks remain within the Democratic Party. Put another way, this is what a big tent party looks like when it included social conservative Christians. Pete is a gay white man, that presents himself as someone aloof to engaging with people of color. He doesn't connect. Maybe he will down the line, but right now he is new and the media that permeates for black people is his sexuality and less than stellar record with blacks in his home town.

r83 What's a 'hard core bias?' I said a statistical bias, which is demonstrable in that survey found the black community was on average 10% less supportive of same-sex marriage than the whtie or latino communities.

And I don't know what point your getting at when you say "Homophobic whites and latinos can swing to Republicans." The survey results I quoted didn't differentiate based on party affiliation--the black/white/latino community mentioned is the total community, not just democrats--so we should actually expect there to be LESS support for same-sex marriage among whites and latinos, since they span both democrats (expected to tend towards 'support same-sex marriage) and republicans (expected to tend to "not support same-sex marriage), especially with whites. In other words, In order to get to 63% support for same-sex marriage among whites, you'd need a lot of white republicans to support it since white republicans are the majority (party affiliation of US whites in 2016: 54% republican 39% democratic).

But I do agree with you somewhat about pete. Even though he is making a major effort to "connect" to black people (like by doing the meeting this thread is about) I do feel a lot of it comes across as almost cynical pandering--which it very well might be! I agree that pete doesn't connect with black people, and I actually think that his inability to gain black support has less to do with homophobia and more to do with the very strong instinct among black people to be strategic voters, since unlike "woke" white liberals, black people are historically the most strategic voting block, and will regularly vote for a candidate who promises a little but can WIN vs. a candidate who promises a lot but realistically cannot win. There's lot of good data backing up this tendency as well.

I like pete and support him but personally I have major doubts that he can win, and my thinking is probably along the same lines as most black people who think similarly--not due to homophobia but due to pragmatism. But who knows, we'll see!

Buttigieg and Booker are both Rhodes Scholars. If the Cauceses began in South Carolina instead of gringo Iowa the Democratic Primary would be more American. More representative of real Americans

[quote]Bitch have a seat somewhere. We don't have to vote for him while there are better candidates. We don't owe you or petey boy nothing. Besides most blacks are not in poverty. Such racist bullshit talk.

Who says you owe him anything? You sure project a lot. And FYI facts don't lie. Pointing out that the largest group in poverty is black is a fact not just some racist rant. But the fact that you cant accept a fact tells me you are unable to separate and deal with your raw homophobic emotion from your cloud of hate.

Go ahead, vote for Trump instead of any other Dem. See what happens when the gloves come off and he has free rein to stack the courts, judges, police force with white nationalists. All because you don't like the gay guy.

[quote]. If the Cauceses began in South Carolina instead of gringo Iowa the Democratic Primary would be more American. More representative of real Americans

Oh really? More American? Do Tell.

Maybe try New Mexico

The Democratic electorate in South Carolina is less representative of America that the Democratic electorate in Iowa. The Democratic electorate in SC doesn't even match the demographics of the general population of SC.

I really hope if Pete dose not win, he gets picked as a VP. I love seeing homophobes eating crow.

There is absolutely no reason to oppose Pete. Stay focused on Trump.

R86. You are the one projecting low economic class unto blacks. There are other well qualified candidates so petey is irrelevant. You make it sound like the votes has been counted and the eventual nominee has been picked. Hey, Bloomberg might end up been the candidate to go against trump. Petey fans have such fucking entitled mentality just like their candidate. Excuse you, negros are not gonna fall in line because some of you said so. Here is the thing, we can survive four more years of trump because he is the devil we know. It is white liberals like you that will fucking go into hysteria or complete meltdown.

I’ll never support a black ever again because of their behavior toward Buttigieg, which stems from homophobia. Never forget that they are also responsible for Prop 8 passing in California. I don’t trust a single one of them and never will. I don’t care if you call me names. I’ll never have anything to do with blacks and they all should’ve been sent back after the war!

R92. Your post is amusing. We blacks don't care how you feel and your emotion is irrelevant to us. Bye bitch.

R93...

R93 I don’t give a shit about you either. I wouldn’t piss on your black ass if it was on fire.

With supporters like r92, Pete can't lose!

I’m being provoked by this slatternly negress. Editor!

Do they have chemistry? Does that black dude want to fuck Pete?

White americans should colonize Eastern Europe and build a great new country. Blacks and mexicans want America so badly? Let them have it. But they will have to create their own industry.

[quote]Petey fans have such fucking entitled mentality just like their candidate. Excuse you, negros are not gonna fall in line because some of you said so. Here is the thing, we can survive four more years of trump because he is the devil we know. It is white liberals like you that will fucking go into hysteria or complete meltdown.

Blacks have such an entitled mentality. There Fixed it for ya.

So you can survive 4 more years of Trump? Oh really? He will start a full on elimination of rights and green light all the racist policies of the 50's and codify them into law for the next 30 years with his hand picked judges. Your votes will never be counted again. Banks will be allowed to redline your neighborhoods like they used to. I on the other hand can blend in as one of them if I have to. I will be untouched and probably benefit from the Trump white privilege coming your way. You will end up cleaning my house for minimum wage if you are lucky. But Trump will allow me to pay less than that so I will probably take advantage of his policies.

R100. I have an amazing career that pays well so I don't have to listen to your bitter cracka ass. You will be doing my bidding bitch. I hope trump rolls back gay rights and most of you will have to go back into hiding. I hope gutting that bullshit gay marriage is next. Marriage needs to go back to been defined as a union between a man and a woman. R95 I won't piss on your fag ass if you were on fire either.

R99 R101

"I just took a DNA test turns out I’m 100% that nominee" :)

Karens are triggered by your intolerance for Mayor Pete and they demand to speak to the manager of this place!

"Don't ever let anyone steal your joy, especially not the internet." --@lizzo #Decision2020

Has a meme ever gotten this tired this quickly? I'm looking at your R104.

There are two major groups of blacks people.

There are the ones who have manners, are educated, work hard, etc. They fit in well with other races in the US. They’re regular Americans and when white people interact with them, the whites don’t even realize that these people have a different skin color. It’s not an issue. These people may vote for Pete.

The second group is the stereotypical ghetto trash. These are the homophobic “takers” and are the black version of WT. They don’t fit in to mainstream society. This is the group that does not accept mayor Pete. The truth is that they don’t accept the first group of Blacks I described. Pete has to forget this group- he will never win their support.

I have many friends who would be in the first group, and they’ve told me over and over how the ghetto ones hate them. It’s the same reason white trash despises successful Whites.

R107: are you okay? Did you get lost on the way to Reddit? PLZ save the "I'm black retort" as Black people CAN be racist and can internalize anti-black sentiment.

Non-white people do not trust Pete because we can recognize an individual who has likely NEVER interacted with people of color beyond superficial interactions/service jobs. Why would we want him to represent us? He is on record stating he doesn't want black people's votes. In 2019/2020, a sound bite like that is idiotic. I thought his selling point was intelligence...

[quote]Non-white people do not trust Pete because we can recognize an individual who has likely NEVER interacted with people of color beyond superficial interactions/service jobs.

That's ... not true though. Though I am beyond thankful he's never pulled a Trump "here's my black person," he does have people. They're not hiding out or anything. I mean, like that other guy in his Harvard graduation pictures is his roommate, the novelist Uzodinma Iweala. Per him, they still hang when he zips through town.

Another major bestie's Kareemah Fowler, who ran a double-ticket with him during his second mayoral race. She's been on the trail for him. She posted some of their old campaign lit, where they both look like Disney teens.

Do you think he was in an all white, all American division in Afghanistan, r108?

Gad you are an idiot.

[quote]Non-white people do not trust Pete because we can recognize an individual who has likely NEVER interacted with people of color beyond superficial interactions/service jobs. Why would we want him to represent us?

And Barack Obama never stepped foot into in a gay bar until he wanted our vote. F- U and your entitlement.

[quote]He is on record stating he doesn't want black people's votes.

Link Please or you are just spreading lies.

[quote] I don't have to listen to your bitter cracka ass. You will be doing my bidding bitch. I hope trump rolls back gay rights and most of you will have to go back into hiding. I hope gutting that bullshit gay marriage is next. Marriage needs to go back to been defined as a union between a man and a woman. [R95] I won't piss on your fag ass if you were on fire either

Oh look, black racists in the DL. And homophobic as well. TRUTH

R113 ignore the fool. This misquote came when he returned to South Bend to try to comfort a black woman after the shooting there by a policeman. He said " I am not here for your vote" in response to something she said. It was meant as an olive branch, NOT a slam .

[quote]The second group is the stereotypical ghetto trash.

The second group is 95% of American blacks.

R116. The same can be said about whitey. 95 percent of you are weirdos, trans, fags, opioid and meth addicts. You see how stereotype works.

I don't get why he's trying so hard to get black people to like him. If he wants their vote why doesn't he just lie to them and then renege on it once he becomes president like every candidate elected since desegregation has done. This thread just proves that they'll never like him because at the end of the day there's nothing black people hate more than a white, successful, educated gay man. If their vote really matters that much just trick their dumb asses into thinking you'll give them tax exemption or something, he shouldn't be wasting valuable time and money while on his campaign trail trying to appeal to people who would probably beat him to death if they saw him walking down the street holding hands with Chasten.

R118. You are right about one thing. We don't give a fuck about him. He could drop out tomorrow and we would say, what took him so long.

Now, let's take a look at other racist garbage R116 spewed:

[quote] He should totally ignore black people. They’re never going to vote for him.

[quote] When every conversation is about blacks and their issues, white people will look elsewhere.

[quote] That’s how we got Trump after eight years of listening to Michelle Obama call white people racists.

[quote] “Black people haven’t heard about him yet” is an excuse to cover their homophobia.

[quote] I will not be voting for that fat, unqualified black woman Stacey Abrams if she somehow ends up on the ticket.

[quote] My Mother, tragically, got the Upper Peninsula confused with the Outer Banks.

(Presumably, she was to busy ironing pappy's white cape and hood)

[quote] Sorry, but St. Louis is forever tainted in the rest of the country’s minds by what went on in Ferguson.

little boy Pete is not ready to be president. He will not be elected!

Using ignoredar to create dossiers on other posters is so fucking loserish, even for DL.

Could we send the slatternly negress back to LSA, please?

Wow, black people are REALLY mad that white people don't want Pete to give them attention, which is odd considering they keep saying they won't vote for Pete and that he's a piece of shit. You'd think that if you really hated somebody you wouldn't be angry at not getting their attention and potentially being ignored by them. Could it be that black people get mad when the conversation isn't 100% focused on only them and their issues? Nah, that's crazy, what am I saying? Black people are all better than any of us, and to say otherwise is racism.

R122 R124

[quote]little boy Pete is not ready to be president. He will not be elected!

He served in the military, they are trained to take charge and make split second life and death decisions based on that training. They are trained to lead. What did Cheeto know about being President?

All he has to do is announce that he will sign an executive order for Reparations to all blacks in the US and his score would shoot to 100 percent. I am surprised Bernie hasn't tried that yet among his other lies that will never happen.

Blacks and gays are similarly impossible as voters, at least as voting blocs and in their media and journalists. Unless everyone is happy, then no one can be happy: it's a nearly impossible standard within either group and a more than impossible leap from without. Bona fides and proof of past perfection in all tings weigh too heavily for the good of either group.

Gays gave Obama the benefit of the doubt even though he was opposed to gay marriage during the campaign. Black giving Pete the same, not so much.

R124. We don't give a fuck about him but white liberals and the media keep yapping about why blacks are not supporting him. Even in this site there are numerous threads about it. You guys are the ones that want our attention so badly. We ignore Pete but you guys keep acting like an annoying idiots. This is us telling white liberals and the media to snafu. I don't know why we are in your mind and why your candidate keep obsessing over us.

R123. I got you salty faggot.

"blacks have such an entitled mentality"

and y'all really wonder why people can't stand white gays and why fugly Pete's numbers are dropping.

What a sinning strategy for Donald Trump. Not only pitting gays against blacks, but white gays against nonwhite. But enjoy your Pete hate.

Winning strategy. He likes that.

Someone is unhinged today.

R130 Yet you're mad when we say he shouldn't be focused on people who according to you "don't give a fuck about him". Pete shouldn't waste his time on a demographic that has apparently collectively decided they don't care about him and aren't voting for him, but of course, that idea pisses you off because it implies you wouldn't be the center of attention. You don't like Pete and don't want to vote for him? Fine by us. But then why should he dedicate his time and effort towards you if you've made your bias against him clear? Doesn't really seem fair, disinterest should work both ways.

[quote]y'all really wonder why people can't stand white gays and why fugly Pete's numbers are dropping.

Racist much? You translate what people say on a gay chat board to a reason you hate a gay man you have never met because he is white? Blacks are just as capable of racism as any other race. Arnt you the one calling someone Cracker up thread?

“not ready Pete” is not ready for president. He will let down dems!

R136. Where in my statement did I claim I am mad. You are the one upset not me. I could give a fuck if he stop trying to "appeal" to us. Most of us could give a damn. We will appreciate if the media and white liberals stop talking about us in regards to Pete. Stop obsessing about us and enough with the damn threads.

[quote]He served in the military, they are trained to take charge and make split second life and death decisions based on that training.

There are split-second life and death decisions in accounting?

He was also a driver responsible for the split second decisions of military transport in a world of IEDs.

Fuck you r140.

He also singlehandedly gave Chick-Fil-A to the starving lepers.

[quote]Most of us could give a damn. We will appreciate if the media and white liberals stop talking about us in regards to Pete. Stop obsessing about us and enough with the damn threads.

Why because you don't like the spotlight on your communities undeniable homophobia?

I dont care if Pete drops out tomorrow, I will continue to shine the light on your issues with gay people and the amount of anti-gay things your community overwhelming supports over other groups given actual statistics. We never forgot you guys are the ones who voted to over turn a law in California so you could ban gay marriage after it was legal. It's obvious things have not changed. I see no reason why gay people should any longer support a community that responds with such hate and discrimination and your racist comments about anyone who in a person of color.

R143 also seems to have issues with Jews on another thread.

[quote] Thinking Judaism is better than Goy.

[quote] Jews who always want to argue over everything.

Why am I not totally surprised??

R144 But he made a valid point, and quite frankly, I agree. Even if Pete drops out tomorrow white gays will never, ever ignore the homophobia that's encouraged and passed down in the black community. You can claim racism all you want, attack us with slurs, but at the end of the day we refuse to stop shining a light on the violent hatred of gays in the communities of POC. Sorry, sweetie, the race card doesn't work with us. We see through it, and unlike straight people, we know that it doesn't give you a pass to be homophobic. Bigotry comes in all colors, shapes, and sizes bitch, and we aren't afraid to point that out. Get used to it, because we refuse to pretend like it's okay anymore.

Pete's response to a woman at tonight's fundraiser who suggested Prop 8 passed in California because of “the people of color vote.”

In short, we're all in this together, so don't fall for the agents of chaos trying to pit us against each other.

Prop 8 wasn't voted in by black people, morons, they barely even turn up to vote for presidents. It was rich Californian conservatives.

BTW, R145 I am white, if that matters to your black/white worldview ilk at all, but I know bullshit when I see it as well as bending over into a pretzel to justify it. Oh, shouldn't you be out there on the ledge defending Kevin Spacey?

He should mention that blacks are Super Predators.

I mean, it's so obvious that this identity politics thread is straight out of the right wing playbook. Maybe we can guess who the frequent posters are:

1) The followers of that donkey-toothed loser whose name shall not be mentioned since he's drawn to publicity like a fly to a pile of shit 2) Milky Loads' acolytes 3) Good ol' Log Cabinettes 4) Crazy Matt Anscher ... ??

R146 that woman honestly sounded like a plant. Obvious baiting setup and then odd comments about the room being very gay and rich and white.

[quote]Prop 8 wasn't voted in by black people, morons, they barely even turn up to vote for presidents. It was rich Californian conservatives.

That's completely opposite of the facts, do you write for Fox News too? It's already been said many times here but maybe you just dont read or care to live outside your bubble. During prop 8, the Mormon church look for the largest anti-gay group they could find to vote against gay marriage. Their research was clear, it was black communities in California. They then promptly set up signs and advertisements in this community all over the state and the black community delivered them the results they wanted.

"70 percent of Blacks cast their ballot in favor of Proposition 8" UCSD.edu "In Favor" means you wanted gay marriage to be made illegal.

R147 = Boris, Ivan or Natasha.

R146 once again he is smartest man in the room.

R145 Black gay man here telling you to keep your mayonnaise white savior nonsense off my sandwich. You don't know shit about my community and are operating on stupid racist stereotypes. Unsurprising for a Pete supporter of course. How about you fix white homophobes first. You know, the ones who literally ran a political party on homophobia. The ones who are voting in representatives with openly homophobic platforms. The ones that kick you out of housing or refuse to bake your wedding cakes. The ones that fuck you and then beat you to death. Go deal with them first. We'll deal with our own. Thanks.

All the gay black people I know tell me how homophobic the black community is. It's not exactly a secret.

[quote]Go deal with them first. We'll deal with our own. Thanks.

Apparently you haven't by the homophobic remarks here about gay white men. I never use the N word but I have seen more of the F word on here than any other site.

I find it ingesting that when it comes down to brass tacks and we start discussing homophobia in the black community, the response is always a deflection or avoidance of the problem. "We'll deal with our own" "Most of us could give a damn. We will appreciate if the media and white liberals stop talking about us" or racists comments like "mayonnaise white savior"

R156 Bitch why are you lying? We can tell you have never had a friendship with any black person, gay or straight. Now I don't need to be told by white gays how homophobic white communities can be. I see it every day. From assholes who are both racist and homophobic in my actual day to day life. From the massive block of WHITE voters who vote for openly homophobic leaders. Fun fact, NONE of the cases challenging anti gay discrimination laws is from black litigants. All white. Sounds about right. White evangelicals vote exclusively Republican. The black Church votes almost exclusively Dem. But then you'll argue that not all white people are like that, right? Well then it's exactly the same for black people. Not all black people are like that. In fact the vast majority don't give a shit.

Heres my experience, in case you need a break from your stereotypes. I've been out since I was 15. My parents were great about it. Only my maternal grandfather struggled with it but he's an asshole about everything including the fact that my sister and I are from different dads. My cousins literally don't give a shit. They just want intros to my hot female clients. I got a lot of friendly ribbing from my high school friends when I came out and I preferred it that wa since we roast each other about every single thing. I'm glad they never got awkward or tried to pretend they didn't know or started to treat me like a girl.

Also, I have never been physically or verbally attacked for being gay by a black person. Never. No aggression. And while on the subject of black stereotypes, I have never been in a gang. Never been arrested. Never even smoked weed.

My parents never had the sex talk with me but my best gay friend is blatino and he was put through the same rite of passage as his bros. Gay sex talk plus pamphlet. Obviously some in my circle weren't as lucky but they are the minority. I even have a black lesbian friend who moved in her girlfriend into the family home when they were teens. The girls mum was going to prison for identity theft or some shit. Maybe get out of your little racist bubble and speak to real people

Maybe acknowledge that the black community is very homophobic.

No more than white people. And certainly nowhere as politically mobilised white people.

Pete is a shit candidate who treats us exactly as his supporters treat us....with contempt. It's got nothing to do with homophobia and everything to do with his years of disdain suddenly replaced with his insincere pandering now that he knows who the base is.

I’m getting really tired of black people calling white people racist slurs, then telling whites to look at whites, and only whites, for racism or homophobia.

Being black does not give you Teflon armor against all possible criticism. If white people went around with every other word out of their mouth a racial slur, people would not be saying, look somewhere else for racism, it’s not us.

If you want anybody to take seriously this idea that blacks cannot possibly be criticized for homophobia no matter what they say, how about quit calling my entire race racial slurs every time you open your mouth. You’re not proving you’re better than anyone else.

[quote]Pete is a shit candidate who treats us exactly as his supporters treat us....with contempt.

Stop 👏 talking 👏 on 👏 behalf 👏 of 👏 all 👏 black 👏 people. You don't speak for me. And where was this crying like a lil' bitch when Pete was in the single digits, I wonder? Now go spend your energy on boosting your own fucking candidate instead.

[quote]It's got nothing to do with homophobia and everything to do with his years of disdain

Years of disdain? You mean like cutting the unemployment rate of South Bend by more than 60% over eight years? A city that is 40% non-white? Come back to me when Sanders or Warren have something similar to show.

'Buttigieg as racist' is a false narrative created by the press and threatened republicans.

R143. Did I state you guys should support us. Who is really obsessing about us?. It is white gays and white straight liberals. We don't give a damn if you don't support blacks. You make it seem like we sit around wondering what gays are doing and saying. You are the one doing the most.

One dude's projecting a bunch of trash on Pete Buttigieg that he don't deserve. The other dude's projecting a bunch of trash on the black voters that they don't deserve. If Little Red Footballs was still around, y'all could head on over there to holler at each other and spare the rest of us. Jesus.

R167

R167 can go back to LSA.

I am soooo over the blacks. You’ll never make them happy no matter what, so it’s better to just ignore them and their noxious bellyaching. If I see one coming, I cross the street. Not interested in their bullshit.

R170. I have never had an account on LSA. Nice try idiot.

R172

[quote]I have never had an account on LSA.

Sure, Jan.

Do white people just not understand how bad black people have it in this country, or do they just not care? You white gays are far better off than the majority of black people. 99% of you would never want to, or be subjected to, the awful conditions in many majority black neighborhoods. The fact that you would ignore this is disgusting. Many poor black people are living in conditions as bad as third world countries. That is foul and this country should be ashamed.

R175,

It’s not about being black, it’s about being poor. You’re conflating race with socioeconomic status. All of my black friends have gorgeous homes because they’re all lawyers, surgeons and bankers. They also support Pete Buttigieg.

r175 the violence in those neighborhoods is self-created, white people have nothing to do with it.

Also, being poor in the US is a helluva lot better than being poor in a lot of other countries.

r176

Your "black friends", if they even exist, are by far in the minority.

r177

Take your right wing talking points and shove them up your ass.

[quote]Do white people just not understand how bad black people have it in this country, or do they just not care?

Honestly, most white people think that black peoples’ problems are mainly self-inflicted.

R175. Why are you attempting to have a conversation about racial inequality with a bunch of racist gays. You are wasting your time and why discuss it in the first place.

It’s giilt-ridden white college students who are spurring on the hate.

[quote]Take your right wing talking points and shove them up your ass.

Sorry, it's not right wing, it's a fact of life. The problems with violent crime are not white people's fault or anyone else's. It's not going to change until the black community stops playing victim and blaming everybody else for their problems, and creates change from within. It is appalling to everyone else (not just whites) how degraded and dysfunctional these communities and neighborhoods are.

R175 those horrible black areas used to be beautiful and now are run down and dysfunctional, Fact

Apparently white people don't have poverty and crime ridden areas. Idiots. Even your twink god agrees that institutional racism is real and undeniable and dooms millions so that you have to be lucky to make it out. The fact that his own supporters don't get it just goes to show how weak he is. He cant even convince his own cult?

I'm so sick of blaming everything on the "institution". Anytime somebody smells a fart on the subway it's "institutional something-or-other". Look, the government sucks, and yes, there's something wrong with the class system in America. But not every goddamn problem you have is society's fault. Blaming bad days on Big Brother is easy, I think, and that's why so many people cry "institution!" when they don't get their way. Introspection or playing with the cards you've been dealt is harder than tossing the blame to somebody else.

[quote]my best gay friend is blatino

That right there is why you should be ignored.

R185. Cease discussing black issues t hanks. We did not ask you for your opinion any further and the previous poster shouldn't have bought it up. On behalf of all black people, snafu.

R185 is the reason Pete CAN'T win. I mean we all know he will not but R185 provides the reason why he can't. When a candidate can't even convince his core grassroots of an idea he claims to hold deeply, he is just a poor politician. Particularly when it's an idea that's as uncontentious as systemic racism. He can't even sell them a core Democratic platform, how's he going to convince the rest of us on his ideas?

Dead in the water.

Pete is in the top 5 right now R188. Deal with it.

[quote]Even your twink god agrees that institutional racism is real and undeniable and dooms millions so that you have to be lucky to make it out.

Institutional racism is NOT real. And the more that Democratic politicians continue to push it and use it as an excuse for the failure of black communities...the more that white people tune it out and vote Republican.

Ta-Nehisi Coates's revitalization of the concept of institutional racism has made him a millionaire. His angle is that prior discrimination, particularly in housing, is the reason AAs can't currently billed wealth. So... Reparations.

Why Buttegieg faces a hard road.

For politicians, substituting DEMOCRAT for DEMOCRATIC PARTY is racist code. Any politician using DEMOCRAT incorrectly is not so secretly revealing that they are a white supremacist. Presenters need to call out this horseshit. The only one I've seem call them out is Chris Matthews. If you work in broadcast pass this along. Call out these nasty motherfuckers.

It means they are Republicans, not necessarily (but quite possibly) white supremacists. Call out nasty motherfuckers, but please do so appropriately and accurately.

The Left is eating itself.

Nope. "Democrat" is CODE for racist.

And yet a good percentage, maybe not the majority but still million put the current racist in the white house because they didn't feel all warm and fuzzy with Hillary. Voting against their own self interest based on silly emotional expectations of a politicians personality instead of ideas.

The problem with Pete doing this is that he doesn't have enough support among white folks to start taking a left turn and focusing a huge chunk of his attention on black voters. Now, instead of having a big percentage of white supporters and barely any black supporters, he'll have barely any white OR black supporters. He's shooting himself in the foot with his lack of concrete strategy for tackling the racial politics and structure of America.

He's not going to get white America as he is. He repulses white progressives. Irritates minority voters. And is essentially a back up pick for centrists (those who don't mind the gay couple in the white house, anyway). And any voters who prefer to dig into candidates history are instantly turned off - no national background, pandering to racists in his small town, big donor money and avoiding transparency, and the half truths like taking credit for Mike Pence Statewide economic successes or claiming that winning the blue pocket that's South Bend (it's one third black for fucks sakes) as though he won a hard repubican town.

major BS alert at R199. Spew your filth elsewhere.

[quote]The problem with Pete doing this is that he doesn't have enough support among white folks to start taking a left turn

Nice try, but no. He has plenty of support, and in my opinion moving to the center like Biden is smart. We cant win with far left people, there simply are not enough voters to do that. We actually need to peel off some independents which usually swing right to win the electoral college. They will definitely stay with Trump if their choice is Warren or Bernie. Why do you think Biden is still at the top of all the polls since he started? He is closets thing to the center and Pete is not far behind. And while the haters say Pete's youth is a negative, I see it as a positive, he is not stuck in his way, he has different ideas like adding more supreme court justices to the court to even out the all the conservative Trump stacked it with. He will be more progressive that people think if he were to win the presidency.

R199 is right and r200 and r201 are both delusional.

[quote] You can point out black homophobia all you want. Most blacks don't care. We don't like petey for various reasons. We are Biden or Bernie or bust

Those various reasons are they want to remain exactly as they are. Mostly uneducated, living in ghettos, kids in and out of jail, raising their kids on welfare/medicaid/food stamps and every social program that exists. Most children born to baby mamas. That's the kind of stuff they like and want.

You’re worse than what you describe, R203, not only because you’re a racist, but because you’re only supporting this Republican In disguise because he’s gay (openly for a whopping 4 years!).

Fuck you and fuck Petey.

He will NEVER be the nominee, much less POTUS.

The black diva troll on here is so entitle. Apparently she is clairvoyant too. Too bad her crystal ball is made of cheap glass.

R205. And you are filled with cheap hot air blowing gas. Entitled fag calling some else entitled. Talk about a kettle calling the pot hot.

I don't expect people or candidates to bow down to me for their vote R206. I think it's clear who the Diva is.

R207. Coming from someone who expects blacks to automatically fall in line for petey. You need to focus on your own entitled asshole behavior.

It must be so nice for Pete that he gets to go to lavish, luxurious parties living it up with his wealthy donors.

This is why he will never gain support from black, young and poor people. He's so out of touch with the underprivileged.

[quote]Coming from someone who expects blacks to automatically fall in line for petey.

Never said that, you are projecting just like Trump. Seriously, no one here said that. It's all made up shit in your head to justify your hate.

It must be so nice for Obama that he gets to go to lavish, luxurious parties living it up with his wealthy donors.

There, fixed it for ya. It's ok for the black guy to do that but not the white guy. Talk about double standards!

R210. Are you fucking stupid or just completely delusional. You must have not read some of the comments on this thread. Not only are you a liar, you are also full of shit like some racist entitled assholes in this thread.

Nobody takes that obese Dumbo interviewer seriously, she is a joke.

You black divas throwing shade are exhausting. You know what you can do with that:

Murial Please Block this Homophobic Troll. R22 Here are just some of her anti-gay remarks.

As a straight person, I love to see gays turn on eachother. Well you are making our work easier.

R96. Bingo. You said it perfectly. If he wasn't a fag he would have been a right winger.

R123. I got you salty faggot.

I hope your trump derangement syndrome turns you insane when trump is not impeached.

As a black person, I don't give a eff what a bunch of gay white men think about my race.

If gays can pressure chick fil A to drop salvation army and other Christian charities then million moms can pressure hallmark to take out the gay content from their channels.

^block R204^ she is a troll.

R204 is dropping the F word on a gay board, this is not cool. Go back to wherever you came from. Or did they kick you out there too?

some of these posters are turds, but im opposed to banning or blocking, its giving in to the right wing tendencies....

The homophobic asshole must be ghetto or a complete troll. The black people I know would never talk like that.

r4, you sound like he has a chance to win. He doesn't.

Doing this helps him in the future to expand his supporters. No one is winning the primary with 0% of the black vote.

It is ok for most of you to call women cunts and blacks all kinds of degrading names. Cry me a river bitch.

R215. Why are you stalking people. Get some therapy psycho. I see I got you bothered. How many people have you obsessively stalked online.

This thread is filled with anti-Semitic, anti-gay, and anti-black trolls, from abroad and likely domestic as well. White people pretending to be black and homophobic, straight people pretending to be gay and trying to start a race war. So obvious, so pathetic.

TROLL. THREAD. CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If R215 doesn’t care what a bunch of gay men think, what is he doing here? Why go on a gay site to post obsessively about how you don’t care what gays think?

That’s got to be a paid Russian troll. Nobody’s so crazy they go to a site that thinks the exact opposite of what they believe, and posts over and over about how they hate the people on the site. That’s a paid troll.

It's an unwritten Datalounge rule that angry black femmes can say "fag" and "faggot" here all day long. Their posts won't even get crossed out, let alone red tagged.

R225. Angry gays can call women cunts and blacks ghetto all day without been blocked or red tagged.

Angry gays can call EVERYONE cunts.

Ya twat.

We're not allowed to call black women cunts. They are queens, descended from African royalty.

R219

"The black people I know would never talk like that."

Not around white people, at least.

R228. So you admit you are nothing but a racist piece of shit. How dare I call you out for calling black people degrading names. As we say in America, bitch have a seat somewhere.

Um, I'm laying out the rules for Datalounge! Don't call black queens cunts! Or black femmes. Did 'queen' become a degrading term in the last hour? Doubt it!

[quote] It is ok for most of you to call women cunts and blacks all kinds of degrading names. Cry me a river bitch.

This is a gay website so you should not slur the people who set it up. No one is forcing you to be here. Show me a feminist board where I could use the C word without being blocked by the moods. Ill wait. Show me a board with people of color where a self acknowledged white man can use the N word without being blocked? Still waiting.

[quote][R215]. Why are you stalking people. Get some therapy psycho. I see I got you bothered. How many people have you obsessively stalked online.

Its public information, you posted on a public board. Cant handle being called out on your own shit I see. Sorry but anti-gay trolls need to be called out. I dont care how free you feel to use the F word here, I will call you out on it every time. Your trolling has been exposed.

R233. Exposed for what. Bitch please. Misogynist like you need to be called out and quit stalking people. Sicko. R232. This site is called pointless bitchery. Meaning the shade is free for all. If you can't take been called out then you are not ready to read the comments. Who told you can claim ownership of this site.

Stupid people can’t handle Pete.

Sit back R203. You are about to learn why you cant get to the Dem nomination without black grassroot support. It won't even be close for him. Come back in about 8 years when you and your white twink emperor learn some fucking manners.

NYT late to the party but its about time mainstream media stopped treating him with kid gloves. We all know he is the candidate of the donor class and that buys protection early on but his grace period run way too long. Knives out, girls. We are about you carve ourselves so over-hyped white moderate Republican turkey. Bon appetit

The welfare queens don’t have to worry. Pete won’t make you work, he won’t take away your HUD apartment or your food stamps. You’ll still get to keep Medicaid. Calm down and stop your racist comments like “mayo Pete”. Would it have been acceptable to call Obama something like “Ba-choco-bama?”

R234

R239. Sit your white racist ass somewhere. You and mayo Pete can kick rocks.

I don't get how people can call Pete a donor candidate when Warren and Bernie have just as many donors as him. Just another example of the hypocrisy that's tearing the left to pieces and helped Trump win. Oh, well. If Pete gets ousted I hope you fuckers enjoy Trump's second term, considering you'll be responsible for it.

r242

There's a huge difference between grassroots donors and wealthy elitist donors. Bernie has the most grassroots donors (I believe). Buttigieg's money is pouring in from Hollywood and big tech.

R242. Pete is not the only nominee so have a seat somewhere.

Here's a list of Bernie donors. Lots of celebrities and higher ups. For God's sake, Ariana Grande donates to him. Grassroots my ass.

Here's Warren's.

r245

They all obviously have wealthy donors. You can't legally stop wealthy people from donating. But as I said Bernie has the most grassroots donors.

And Ariana Grande? Really? She has no power, unlike the Hollywood and Silicone Valley execs fueling Buttigieg.