Prince Charles Reveals Another Swollen Member! Part 2

Another interesting shot of Charles' swollen members sparking "great concern" over his health.

Royal ladies at Christmas - Part Two.

Swipe for some cute photos of royal siblings Charles and Anne through the years.

Swipe for the history of Buckingham Palace.

Beautiful photos of the late Princess Margaret Rose.

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For history buffs...swipe for the life of Queen Elizabeth I - Part One.

Swipe for the story and photos behind this lovely pearl necklace.

So, Liz, have you re-thought trotting Andrew out for the Christmas walk?

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Swipe for Diana's Christmas outfits through the years. I like 1983 & 1991 the best.

Calling all Brits...you can watch the Royal Variety Performance on ITV this evening.

Love the pearl and sapphire choker Diana is wearing here.

A reminder of what should NEVER have been worn.

Oh no! Prince Charles is being attacked by his swollen fingers!

And now he's being strangled by his puffy digits!

Whoa R17, Harry looks so much like Charles in that photo!

"So, Liz, have you re-thought trotting Andrew out for the Christmas walk?"

R9 - i keep asking the same question.

R3 I like Anne, but she sure was a homely baby.

The Royal Variety Show is so rubbish now. Back in the 80s, they had performers people had actually heard of.

R15 - Dear God that photo is horrifying. All overbite, vampire eyes, and hat.

But even more horrifying than the way she looks, is how unconscious she obviously is of how bad she looks.

How is that possible?!

r14 - Believe the center of that choker was a brooch given to Diana as a wedding present by the Queen Mother. Diana had it set into the choker rather than wear it as a brooch.

R12 - I don'yt like any of them, which is surprising as, although she did come out in some howlers, her formal day suits and gowns were usually spot on.

I think her Easter suits were probably better.

Camilla is looking really haggard lately. Even her hair is limp. I know she's been sick but I'm wondering if it's more serious.

Princess Margaret with her first child, David.

The Queen with Prince Edward.

I wish Kate would break out of her comfort zone and wear something colorful like these two Swedish royal women (Madeleine in pink and Sofia in blue at the Nobel Prize awards in Stockholm today).

Being bland is part of Kate's armor. Hard to create a problem if you're bland.

Huh? Kate wears blue a lot. She looks fantastic in turquoise and teal.

R12 I'll take 1985, she looked gorgeous in sapphire. I always liked her in slightly (not overly) old-fashioned styles that accentuated her English Rosiness, especially tartans. Love the muff. That's privilege, when you don't have to carry a thing and can stick your hands in a muff (which sounds so silly to say).

R28 Princess Madeleine is a real beauty. Something incredibly vibrant about her.

Another poster commented on that r25 a few months ago on DL. They said something like they saw Prince Charles seeming to take close care of her when they out are in public, paying closer attention, being careful about her, or something like that. I took that to mean that Camilla could be having some medical issue requiring some "monitoring."

I thought this thirsty fool of a woman was on break? Every fucking day since her "break" has been one "leaked" puff piece after another.

In her alternate reality, people are dying to see a photo of her helping out in a soup kitchen from several years ago.

Grifters friend's gonna grift, too: "Jennifer's team didn't understand members of the Royal Familiy cannot be used in advertising."

Nor, apparently, did a member of the Royal Family.

BP is supposed to have contacted Meyer and her people directly, requesting the photo takedowns. Hmm. Is this a sign of more to come, a crackdown on arbitrary bending of the unofficial rules re BRF members and business/financial relationships, in the wake of Andrew's downfall?

Would not surprise me at all if Camilla had cancer. She drinks and smokes like a chimney, and Charles has a terrible diet for all his organic gardening. The British diet is for shit. I wouldn't be surprised if there was more colon cancer in the UK than anywhere else. Very unhealthy, fatty, read meat diet. We'll be seeing a lot more of the kids and once they effectively disappear Andrew, Beatrice and Eugenie will get a chance to do some ribbon cuttings and block parties for the firm.

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The Jenn Meyer postings of MM started months ago. I recall seeing MM on the Jenn M Instagram several times over the past year. I love the candid paparazzi shot w/MM displaying the earrings like a model would on the Price is Right!

I do think that this is BP cleaning house. I am sure that they will be looking closely at everyone....after the Andrew debacle.

Anyway , both Andrew and Haz would not have a scheme and scam for cash if they were more adequately paid like Charles and William.

My question is, what use is an NDA when the high-profile client is wearing the stuff in public? I'm not sure one even exists, and this didn't come from BP it was another one of those "sources claim". I'm not even sure BP has the legal right to force a foreign business to do what it wants.

Meyer would certainly take the photos down if her friend Meggsy asked her to. But I doubt Meghan would - this is the kind of thing she lives for. If those photos are still up, then the story was either fake, or Meyer (probably with Meghan's full support) has stuck two fingers up to the Queen andhe called the BRF's bluff. I suspect the former. If the latter, though, this is another nail in the coffin of Meghan's relationship with "the family she never had" and begs more questions about her doing fundraising for a foundation formed under the imprimatur of her royal status.

The ladies on LSA believe this is MM lashing out at Meyer in defense of her friend Misha Nonoo. According to a blind item, Meyer had some sort of relationship with Nonoo's then-fiance. This makes sense as why would BP go after Meyer and not the myriad of other companies cashing in on her image. If true, it's incredibly stupid. No one in Hollywood would dare do anything that would be seen to go against the Meyers.

R42 - Now, that's an interesting bit, thanks for putting it up. It would explain a great deal.

But, if true, it would make Meghan look even worse in the eyes of the BRF, because she's leaked a fake news story using them as cover.

I dunno. Meghan is nothing if not aware of the power balances. There are photos up of her and Meyer hugging each other . . .

Very interesting.

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R46 - Of course they are NOT getting a cut of profits.

We'll be seeing the Royals dressed something like this tonight. Love the hosiery on the males.

Anne looked her best when photographed during the time of her engagement to her first husband, Mark Phillips.

Bea was pictured leaving a gym in Chelsea last month.

R47 - hi MeMe, are you OK?

R49 - I think the picture you posted was taken by Anthony Armstrong-Jones, 1st Earl of Snowdon.

Right now, today, Anne would like very acceptable, and even attractive at times... if she did something with her hair and her skin. She looks like the Farmer's wife who spends all day out in the fields then does a quick washing up and puts on a clean dress for company. She needs moisturizers and cosmetics. She definitely needs grooming for her hair. The color is awful, and the texture is brittle and dry and frizzy. She obviously puts no products on it. It looks like it's full of static electricity. And the style is shit.

I meant to add that it's a shame because often Anne has some very expensive decent looking outfits.

Anne has the old-money attitude of not needing to give much of a shit about her appearance. As the Princess Royal, she doesn't need perfect grooming to have confidence or respect.

Do the York sisters still have "jobs"? One was an art gallery manager and I don't even know what the other claimed to do but I recall reading here on DL they both were employed. What about Peter Phillips and Zara's husband, do they have occupations?

"She looks like the Farmer's wife who spends all day out in the fields then does a quick washing up and puts on a clean dress for company. "

R53 - What you wrote is exactly the truth except Anne is not the farmer's wife. She is the farmer and owns the farm.

Bea's got balls. Love her.

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I thought the Diplomatic Corps ball was tonight? When will we start seeing pics?

Meh, no pics, yet, but Kate has been seen in the car on the way to the reception wearing the Lover's Knot tiara once again. I was really hoping that she would bring out another tiara. Maybe when she becomes POW?

When she's POW she will have other tiaras to choose from, those that Camilla doesn't necessarily want to wear. But she'll primarily have the Cambridge Lovers Knot until she's QC.

R62 - She does wear others occasionally - she has worn the Lotus, for example, when the Chinese were here for a state banquet.

She looks as if she's wearing dark blue velvet and another magnificent diamond necklance on loan from HM.

She looks stunning so far in the photos, although I haven't seen the bottom of the dress, but the choice of dark blue velvelt and diamonds and pearls seems fabulous . . .

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Kate is wearing TQ's Nizam of Hyderabad necklace, a stunner. Another major loaner from HM.

Until we get more photosof the glitzy Diplomatic event tonigh, here is Princess Anne opening an affordable housing complex in Kent.

The DM's coverage is quite hilarious, describing Kate's earrings as "sparkling silver drop earrings" . . .

With the Cambridge Lover's Knot Tiara and the Nizam of Hyderabad necklace, Kate has worn silver and crystals instead of one of the many pairs of diamond earrings TQ has to lend her . . .

Gosh, Madeleine and Sofia of Sweden are rocking their outfits. Crown Princess Victoria not so much. She has worn two over-the-top dresses for the Nobel events.

Camilla in her tiara.

Swipe for photos of Kate in her Alexander McQueen dress and jewels.

Summary of Kate's jewels.

Mama Middleton arriving at Kensington Palace, probably to babysit the Cambridge kids.

R68 - Those photos are of last year's Nobel glitz affair. This year, Victoria is wearing black off the shoulder.

In those three photos, every one of those women look dire.

R70 - Kate's dress looks to be a departure for her, and very regal, particularly in the shoulders, which form a perfect frame for that necklace, which I like because it combines a certain delicacy with its Major Status Piece profile. No frou frou or ruffles. This is definiitely Kate looking like a future Princess of Wales and Queen Consort.

E73 - you are incorrect. These photos are from this year's event (second day). Victoria wore a monstrous black and white gown yesterday and a red one today while her sister and sister-in-law were stunning in pink and blue yesterday @R28 and the flowered ones today @R68. Queen Silvia looked lovely in blue this evening.

^ R73

R75- ah. I saw the first day's outfits then. Thanks. I agree that Victoria looked enormous in her black dress, as if she'd put on weight suddenly, but Madeleine and Sophia looked beautiful.

But I still think all three looked dreadful on the second day.

R69 - Is that the Honeycomb Tiara?

The Boucheron Honeycomb yes.

R79 - Camilla seems to favour that one, and it does seem to suit the shape of her face. I would like to see Kate try on one of those that fan out at the sides, like the Honeycomb, rather than sticking with the Lover's Knot, as it accentuates a long face rather than providing width at the top. I get that given her ducal title (that is, her husband's) it's appropriate, but the Oriental Circlet might be nice . . . but as it's still worn by HM doubtful it would be loaned out.

Finally some full length photos of Kate's dress (HELLO has a couple), very simple, very elegant, the polar opposite of last year's dress and the dress she wore to the Dutch State Banquet.

What did Her Majesty wear tonight?

Toby Maguire and Jennifer Meyer are divorced now?

r82 Her Maj wore a white gown, with the emeralds version of the Vladimir tiara and the rarely seen massive Greville Emerald necklace, the latter set with what to my eye appears to be extra hanging Cambridge emeralds. She was literally dripping in them.

(yes r83 divorced for several years now).

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Where the heck is our tiara and jewelry guy? I need info on Catherine's little necklace and earrings.

The necklace and earrings seem too ornate for the design of the dress. Something simpler and more refined would have been a better look, IMO.

Check the DM link I posted above for Kate's priceless jewels lent by HM. The Nizam of Hyderabad's necklace was a wedding gift to Elizabeth from the Nizam of Hyderabad (a local king or governor of India, then one of the world's richest men) and is one of HM's favorites. HM lent it to Kate for tonight and it is the second or third time Kate has worn it.

The necklace gift originally included a matching tiara. HM eventually had the the tiara broken down and used the diamonds from it with her Burmese rubies to create her exquisite Burmese Ruby Tiara.

The two articles at The Court Jeweller blog have the best photos of this glistering diamonds set in platinum masterpiece, made by Cartier in 1935. .

Check the DM link I posted above for Kate's priceless jewels lent by HM. The Nizam of Hyderabad's necklace was a wedding gift to Elizabeth from the Nizam of Hyderabad (a local king or governor of India, then one of the world's richest men) and is one of HM's favorites. HM lent it to Kate for tonight and it is the second or third time Kate has worn it.

The necklace gift originally included a matching tiara. HM eventually had the the tiara broken down and used the diamonds from it with her Burmese rubies to create her exquisite Burmese Ruby Tiara.

The two articles at The Court Jeweller blog have the best photos of this glistering diamonds set in platinum masterpiece, made by Cartier in 1935. .

R41 understands neither the proper definition of "imprimatur" nor that of the phrase "begging the question," or rather, his weird variation thereof. But then, we are talking about someone who speculates on Meghan Markle, aren't we? Carry on.

So that’s the coveted Vladimir, eh? It’s a doozy.

R91 - Yes, that is the Vladimir and together with that necklace HM is dripping emeralds - it's a wonder that poor little old woman can walk with that shit on.

If it is true, which we really don't know, that Meghan asked for the Vladimir, it would have shown HM immediately what she was dealing with.

One day, Meghan is going to be watching Kate Middleton walking around in those things.

I can see why MM wanted it. Most of her wedding decorations in the church were greenery so it would have gone with the theme. Strange she claimed not to know who Harry was but knew that tiara existed.

The Queen was dripping in emeralds. Dripping, I say!

Interesting neckline on Kate's dress.

The Crown Jewels - Part Four.

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R93 And green of course being synonymous with climate change and a general global progressive image. I may be stretching here, but emeralds would have been on brand, if in a somewhat ridiculous way.

How many colonial slaves were subjected to back-breaking, hard and cruel labor to mine those emeralds leaving the country of origin in economic ruin?

No, R93, I agree. I don't think she should have been allowed to wear it, but it would have been on brand and gone with the decor. It actually would have looked good on her olive skin. And with the dress, being as her dress was so plain. I can see how it would have pulled things together. Must have pissed her off.

R102 I was stunned by that dress. All that money, all that effort, and...it was a tube. YAWN

I think the tiara, earrings, necklace, orders, and sash brooch were too much. Since she had to wear the orders, sash, and tiara, going smaller on the necklace and earrings would have balanced the look.

I still think Meghan wanted Eugenie's emerald tiara. The one Meghan wore was remarkably similar to Eugenie's minus the emeralds (which of course made all the difference). Eugenie's hadn't been seen in public in decades, but since she was planning to wear it and had been organizing her wedding around that shade of green (which showed up on the invites and in the bridesmaids' sashes), Meghan would have been in a position to know about it. I can't believe that even Meghan would have the balls to ask for the tiara of a reigning queen, but she'd definitely try to snatch Eug's tiara, having already snatched her wedding date. It WOULD have looked fantastic with her plain dress. No wonder she freaked when told she couldn't have it.

R90

"If you give something your imprimatur, you give it your formal support or approval. An imprimatur is a fancy version of a thumbs-up sign.

Originally, an imprimatur was a license that permitted a book to be printed. This word still has the meaning of official or public approval."

Now, do tell us how forming a foundation as part of your work for the British Royal Family does not indicate "official approval" of same from the institution under whose auspices one founded the entity, and speculating about the legitimacy of using said name once separated from the institution that gave you the official approval for it in the first place?

"Beg the question Take for granted or assume the truth of the very thing being questioned. For example, Shopping now for a dress to wear to the ceremony is really begging the question-she hasn't been invited yet . This phrase, whose roots are in Aristotle's writings on logic, came into English in the late 1500s. In the 1990s, however, people sometimes used the phrase as a synonym of "ask the question" (as in The article begs the question: "What are we afraid of?")."

Very truly yours, Meghan Markle Speculator

Yes, Eugenie's tiara would have been perfect for Meghan. The Vladimir was what the French call 'de trop.'

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Swipe for the life of Queen Elizabeth I - Part Two.

Sophie Wessex at the Sandhurst Military Academy.

Beautiful coat on Sophie - she and Pss. Mary of Denmark both recently wore coats in this beautiful colour - different in style but very similar in colour. True powder blue isn't that easy to find.

Sophie is a very elegant woman. From everything I've read, over the years the queen has grown very close to her and Edward.

Sophie doeys occasionally get it wrong, but generally I find her choices charming and even whimsical sometimes without being offensive. She looks as if she's comfortable in her own skin, and the Queen is allegedly very fond of her.

She's quite adventurous with hats, too - not always to the best effect, but at least she tries. Like Camilla, Sophie looks like she'd be fun to hoist a pint with.

Apparently Camilla is a good cook.

Come to think of it, you never heard anything about Diana and cooking, not that she really had a chance to explore many pursuits in her life. It might’ve helped her to have something simple and down-to-earth to do other than being a global humanitarian icon.

I don't know about Sophie. I've read that she's a rather stern and unthoughtful conservative harridan who likes her perks/privileges and makes sure that the help know who they are and who the working class failures are. I guess it's part of that middle class without class who treats the help badly because she doesn't know how to be grand or even better than herself,

but we do hope that royal-adjacent people aren't as stupid as they appear

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Swipe for the life of Mary, Queen of Scots - Part One.

I heard on Entertainment Tonight that this necklace loaned to Kate by the Queen is worth 91 million. Is that possible? I don't know if that is in pounds or dollars but it's definitely a WTF moment! Swipe for photos.

According to R119's link, Cartier originally made the necklace with 5 (FIVE!!!) pendants, not just the one. (See the 2nd picture.)

The existing necklace (along with a tiara) were gifts to the Queen in 1947 when the Nizam gave the Queen permission to choose her own present from Cartier's stock.

Swipe for a history of Prince Charles' residence, Clarence House.

R116 - Eugenie was at that party too.

An old photo of the Queen with her dogs.

R116, Boris is not nearly as secretive as Trump. He parties with the Russian Oligarchs who have played a role in the UK's disruptions for the past 5 years or so.

R115 = I'd love to know where you read that Sophie is a "conservative harridan" - maybe the same place you read that the Queen was quite fond of that overbearing Teuton, Pss. Michael?

[quote][R115] = I'd love to know where you read that Sophie is a "conservative harridan"

Not R115, but I also recall reading the same. I think it may have been around the time of Gordon Brown's tenure. It was reported that Sophie made some nasty comments about Labour in a public setting that were overheard by a number of people. Rather a faux pas by a family that's supposed to be apolitical in appearances, at least.

The Wessexes are a bit of a cipher. Edward makes absolutely no waves after his production company disaster and Sophie has become the picture of perfect duty. However, she actually was first, long before Fergie, to offer the Royal family trough in exchange for personal gain for her PR business. (How someone who only went to secretarial school, like Fergie, and managed to become a principal in a high profile London PR firm is another matter altogether).

There are pictures in the press constantly of Sophie doing her sober duty (I guess the PR background helps) and has apparently become a favorite of the Queen. What's odd is that she's NEVER pictured with her husband. We never see anything about Edward's duties and appearances. The only significant thing I've read about Edward is that he is the least favorite royal among the Palace help and staff. He was known to order his chauffeur to always look straight ahead and not turn his head or make eye contact. Who knew? Maybe Edward is better at concealing his boorishness than Andrew is. Strangely enough, Philip was named as their favorite royal to work for. He may have flippancy issues, but he was well-liked among those who work for him. A cited example was that Philip attended the funeral of a long-serving staff member.

Yeah, Meghan could stand to take a tip or two from Sophie, an actual, real PR professional in her former life. She took a page from her own playbook and turned it all around. I suspect that many don't know about her attempt at influence peddling.

Yes, I know. Tl;dr.

I demand attention by calling Meghan Markle, client of Sunshine Sacks, to actually be nice to old people, unwanted children in foster care, or even prostitutes on the street. Could someone please tell me how they got away with so much self-promoting as Meghan's trolling the U.S. for even more contributors to the @SussexRoyal Instagram without really acknowledging how the contributions might be disbursed unless into the Duchesses' profoundly deep murk.

[quote] What the hell is Bea doing at a Russian oligarch's party celebrating the Conservative victory?

She hangs around with scum like this. She always has. So has her sister. The 2 of them have many shady friends, just like their dad does. They are just like their mother (only they don't speak out), but they will be friends with any type of trash as long as they can get a free vacation out of it. They go on cruises in the summer on russian oligarch's yachts

I can guarantee you that the 2 sisters have spent time at one of epstein's homes or somehow benefitted from money or gifts he's given them

The guy whose party they went to owns the Evening Standard newspaper. He gives a glitzy party for all his celebrity "friends."

Edward's allowed to be a snotty asshole to his staff: Many rich people are. If Andrew only shouted at those serving him, he could have gone on forever. It's not a felony to be a dick. It IS a felony to put your dick in trafficked young girls. Andrew won't see prison time for that, but he deserves to have his reputation in tatters and his Royal role permanently canceled.

Actually, you usually see Sophie and Edward together at foreign royal weddings, where the couple are invariably sent to represent the BRF, as the Queen no longer does these, nor do Charles and Camilla. The exception seemed to be the Spanish wedding of then Crown Prince Felipe (now King) in 2004, when Charles attended, solo. But the Wessexes are the ones trotted off to the others.

But you're right, Edward is something of a cypher. I suspect Sophie is by far the more interesting of the two, which isn't unusual in those circles.

I don't recall the incident mentioned, but that would hardly turn her into a "conservative harridan", and perhaps someone in the crowd heckled her and she responded.

Generally, she seems to be received with nothing but warmth and praise. Her daughter is the new generation's serious horsewoman, by all accounts, which surely pleases the Queen and Philip, as Lady Louise also seems to share his interest in carriage driving.

To the other poster asking questions about how American contributions to a British foundation opened under the auspices of the British Royal Family play out in reality, you aren't the only one curious about that.

I'd wager a good bit that the DM and a few other media outlets have people quietly on it, digging for whatever they can find.

Fergie never shuts her trap. She's repetitive, annoying and embarrassing.

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Swipe for the life of Mary, Queen of Scots - Part Two. The first part is @R118.

Before Meghan became engaged, someone asked her in an interview what traits she shares with her Suits character Rachel Zane. She said: she's ambitious and she loves shoes. Here is evidence of the latter.

Zara and Mike Tindall at a cancer charity event.

Swipe for photos of the stylish Princess Marina of Kent.

Read the article again, r134. It says one of George's first words was simply MARY. I wonder if the DM was implying things between the lines. They are masters at that.

R139 - the article was about Louis' first words.

I stand corrected. I reread the article and "Mary Berry" was mentioned. The large type headline is

"One of Prince Louis's first words was 'Mary' thanks to his mother's love of Mary Berry and the Great British Bake Off, Kate Middleton reveals on Christmas special"

He was probably talking about his brother.

Zaara's clothes always look so cheap. That dress looks like something she'd get off the rack at T.J. Maxx (UK)

R131 there's a little story in the Post today about the BRF's charity OFFICES in the US, and the exec director's $280,000 salary..

I agree the fit on Zara's dress is terrible, and the fabric looks cheap. But she is the definition of a 'handsome' woman.

Beatrice's wedding day will be announced in January. The queen has signed off for a suggested late spring date in 2020. But the wedding won't be anytime around 16-20 June so as to not conflict with the queen's favorite event, Royal Ascot.

Kate with Mary Berry.

The Mary Berry clip is lovely. I do wish, though, that Kate would cut back ever so slightly with the hand gestures when she speaks. All the younger Royals are like Italians in that regard. I prefer that prim old-school way of keeping hands down or behind back while talking.

The incessant hand gesturing are for publicity shots, r148. Static postures do not make for "interesting" photos.

- DL Daily Mail Complaints Department

R149 Ah.

More with Mary Berry. It’s all very wonderful and wholesome and British. Still, I can’t help picturing what Queen Mary would think of the future king and queen mucking about in the kitchen like this.

Queen Mary would applaud them for doing what they need to do to improve the overall image of the family during tricky times.

The old bird was a realist: She supported the initiative to change the family name, after all, when it was called for during even trickier times.

I'm not one of those people who obsessively hates Harry and Meghan or anything. I've got nothing against them, they seem nice enough and they're clearly in love. But I think they should learn from William and Kate's show with Mary Berry. I'm actually not a monarchist, but if we HAVE to have royals, this is the sort of role they should play. Much more palatable than a ridiculously rich couple talking about how hard their lives are. I think Harry lives in a bubble that blinds him to his privilege.

Harry's problem is he's spoiled, petulant, and thicker than a plank. Exactly like his mother Diana, only he didn't get a quarter of her beauty or charisma.

The Sussexes are still in the US or Canada. "Abroad", per sources, so that they will miss this week's BP Christmas party for family members.

Does anyone believe that Harry might be in rehab these past few weeks? It crossed my mind. (sorry Harry lovers - I don't hate the guy am just posting random gossipy thoughts).

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if they show up from their holiday looking 'refreshed.' Harry will suddenly, miraculously have more hair, and Meghan will be significantly slimmer and tighter.

The thing with Meghan is, she's a creative type at heart, into self expression in every aspect of her life. But she joined a company that frowns upon that sort of thing to say the least, unless it's photography or watercolor painting. She's not going to settle for pressed-flower arranging, like Princess Grace.

The only thing creative about Meghan is her backstory. When it comes to airbrushing her own past, she's more inspired than Picasso.

The full Mary Berry Christmas special: Like R151 said, very wholesome and endearing. They come across golden in this. This is great PR, hear that Sunshine Sachs?

[quote]Harry's problem is he's spoiled, petulant, and thicker than a plank. Exactly like his mother Diana, only he didn't get a quarter of her beauty or charisma.

The other problem is the manipulative knowing and zeroing in on the vulnerable and insipid Harry. And it worked out so well. Diana really was as think as short board about her intellect, but she did have a bit of a glue to work with. Harry's not so lucky despite thinking her Diana's wonderful, Saint status should be consigned to him and his wife, but it really doesn't work that way, especially as Harry and his bride decline to work for his own country. To stupid as the brain stems do not support their breathing, but others will step in to share and support their endeavors to make a bank out of them, the Sussexes' "name" and they way they tried to cash in. I think the away time from Sandringham is a good transition for them to just kind of fuck off from the UK and do justice to themselves, whatever that may be.

The problem with Harry blowing off Christmas this year is that it might be his grandfather’s last.

R161 I don’t know how he isn’t overcome with guilt. Both grandparents are on the edge of the mortal coil. Doesn’t he resent his missus a tiny bit for destroying that little tradtion for him?

[quote]The problem with Harry blowing off Christmas this year is that it might be his grandfather’s last.

It will be his grandfather's last if Philip hears the news that Harry is blowing drag queens named Christmas.

I agree that given his grandparents' age, the optics on Harry and Meghan choosing now to disappear, including with said grandparents' newest great-grandchild, whom TQ and Philip clearly are never going to get to know, is bad optics.

Doria Ragland, who really is Meghan's only family, appears to be in robust health and has many holidays before her, and the Sussexes could easily have spent time with her over their six-week "break" and joined the BRF briefly for public Christmas activity to keep the side up.

Frankly, I don't believe it was a "break" to "recharge their batteries" at all, but, in fact is a planning period, as well as a tacit acknowledgement that there is now a hostile chasm between the Sussexes and the rest of the family, who are just as happy not to have to pretend to a warmth and family bond that doesn't exist, thanks to Meghan Markle.

Having not shown up at Balmoral in the two summers of Meghan's membership in the BRF, skipped this year's Christmas celebrations, virtually accused the BRF publicly of coldness and indifference, embarrassed the family and undermined the Cambridges on their tour of Pakistan, and at the height of the Andrew criss leaked a couple of negative stories about Andrew and Kate (poor "unformed" Kate, it's amazing how successful she's been, isn't it?) at just the time the family expected at least silence) is it likely the Sussexes upon their return after New Year's, pursuing their lawsuit and, thus, still on a war footing with the UK press, will be warmly welcomed into the bosom of the family they have so blatantly disrespected?

R164 - I do not think we know for sure if the Sussexes "blatantly disrespected" their family. We really have NO IDEA what is really going on. I personally would not want to be at Sandringham if if Andrew was there.

Andrew is pretty busy at Sandringham right now r165. Sure you won't reconsider?!

Meghan would be there, if it worked for her, if Genghis Khan were there. This break was planned before Andrew was removed from royal duties and not expected there for Christmas. She isn't not there because Andrew is there: she's not there because she's got better things to do with her time, and her disrespect for the BRF goes back quite a ways before the Andrew crisis broke.

Agreed. Meghan Markle didn’t get to where she is today by being picky about the company she keeps. If she perceives that a situation will be beneficial to her, she’ll be there.

The Sussexes opted out well before the Andrew mess erupted.

Lady Gabriella Windsor modeling for Luisa Beccaria.

My guess is, the Sussexes view the whole Royal Family thing as relatively provincial in the context of a grand, global humanitarian vision.

Such an interesting soap opera, what happens next?

Charles opens a new Prince's Trust Centre.

As we wait for the royal Christmas cards for this year, here is the lovely one from 1996 of the Queen and Prince Philip.

Prince Edward's son James is 12 years old today.

[quote]Prince Edward's son James is 12 years old today.

Enjoy your hair while you got it, kid. Even though male pattern baldness comes through the mother, those nasty Windsor genes will override all others.

He got the flyaway Windsor ears, but it seems as if his parents were wise enough to get them pinned.

Prince Charles doing the weather in Scotland, 2012.

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A good-looking family that would be great looking if only Wills still had hair.

William was devastatingly handsome when he had hair. He is starting to look good again. I'm not quite sure why. I think it's because he's been working out and looks so incredibly.....fit.

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Prince Louis.

The Three Cambridge children.

The Queen's bracelet collection. There are some gorgeous pieces here.

Ooh, Charlotte looks like she’s decided she hates the photographers.

Let's hope Prince Louis will grow into his ears.

Will and Kate on the cover of People magazine.

Kate wore a festive red plaid dress.

Eugenie and Jack look happy. And Jack is wearing his glasses!

Louis has gotten so big - another one with blond hair.

Imagine showing up at your relative's Christmas do with crowds of people photographing you in your car as you arrive.

It seems like the Cambridges are being shoved out front and foremost as the future of the Firm. Smart marketing.

I wonder if that "dog collar" choker was very comfortable to wear for Diana?

It looks like Camilla can't be bothered to do her hair.

Little did Mummy know what an first class disgrace her cute boy would become later in life. A grave disappointment.

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[quote] Bea will marry in early June

We'll see

R186, those kids look miserable

Of course Eug is happy! She gets to climb that cutie Jack whenever she wants.

I was outside BP today and realized the arrivals were pending. It was easy to get a good spot. I saw a lot of them. Saw Prince George but didn't realize William was driving. In any event they all drive either Jags or Range Rovers.

Where is DL's patroness, PrinCESS Michael of Kent? What will her brooch tell us about her mood?

Jaguar gives the BRF courtesy vehicles.

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fwiw, there were far more Range Rovers.

Meghan's shoe collection - Part Two.

Charlotte inherited her great-grandmother's RBF, which SHE inherited from HER grandmother. They can't help it: Unless they are smiling broadly, their features just fall into grumpy lines.

R206 - If Charlotte also inherited her great-grandmother's exquisite complexion, the genetic trade-off will be well worth it.

As all young children have smooth skin, we won't know till Charlotte hits her teens.

If Charlotte is fortunate, she'll have her HM's complexion and her mother's hair and height. Looking as much like HM as she does, she still won't be gorgeous, but she'll be quite attractive. For a Royal princess, attractive is automatically upgraded to hot.

R197, Yes. Her reputation was already rehabilitated before this (to me, at least) but I don't know how anyone who reads that article wouldn't fall in love with her.

R195 I think Camilla's hair is pretty. It's a good grey-blonde, nice and thick and shiny.

In R186's photo Charlotte looks just like Missy in Young Sheldon.

I don't think it's the photographers. Look how pained George appears.

R208 - You never know, Charlotte may, especially given she is likely to be tall, also have inherited her late grandmother's legendary legs.

Imagine that: the Queen's skin, Kate's hair, her parents' height . . . and Diana's legs.

Those kids have Diana’s upward gaze.

R191 Great dress. I love when the Royals wear tartans.

Catherine was being festive, but also being MOM, in her red plaid festive MOM dress. Hi, Catherine Being Mom!

Charlotte's nickname in preschool was "Warrior Princess".

I suspect it fits. Formidable?

Given the "You're not coming." comment at Louis's Christening.

Perhaps she takes after her great-great-great-grandmother, Queen Mary.

R187 - Thank you Bracelet Troll! Please keep up the good work!

R217 - you're welcome!

Only the Brits think of such things...The Imperial State Crown, the Sword of State and the Cap of Maintenance have their own car with their own police escort. Hilarious!

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Princess Charlotte.

Prince George is not amused either. LOL.

The son looks like the HUSBAND of his mother.

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Bea and Edo at their engagement party.

Clever Bea to take advantage of the press' fixed gaze on the Queen's staf luncheon and hold her engagement party that same evening.

Edo clearly is standing by the family and his beloved and going through with it.

Charlotte looks very pretty in that photo. You can never tell till the duckling phase is past but I'm guessing she's going to be more than quite attractive.

Ditto her two brothers.

When the Cambridge kids hit their teens, the press will be all over them like a bad rash. No one will give a tinker's curse about the Sussexes or their (presumably) two kids.

Robert DeNiro was at the engagement party.

Anne needs some advice on hair care. I am so frustrated with her. She also needs serious skin care regimen. No excuse for the way she looks. She has a decent figure, and her taste in clothes isn't too awful, if she could just get her shit together with facials, moisturizers, proper make up, and yes....her teeth. It had to be said. And that electrified frizzed up pompadore on her head has to go. She needs highlights, she needs keratin treatments, she needs grooming. Like her fucking horses.

Hear, hear, R228. Anne really isn't that far off from that spoof character in the Windsors. Her mother looks better than she does.

Anne doesn't care, which is part of her appeal.

Well she needs to care. Wen she's sitting next to Mummy she looks like her sister. And when your 95 and your daughter looks llike your sister, it's a problem.

Nooo, Anne mustn’t change a thing!

Anne is almost 70 years old, and the Princess Royal. She doesn't need fucking keratin treatments.

(sigh.) I have a feeling I'm talking to a bunch of fraus who don't even know what keratin is and their hair is worse than Anne's. They probably still use AquaNet.

r234, So any advice for bald guys?

Work out so you can have a body like William, R235.

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The Christmas card of Charles and Camilla.

Bringing Philip back to London does not look good. If the Queen comes back too, I'd say there's a problem.

We'll get another photo from the Cambridges this weekend.

Diana's sparkler up close.

The Sussexes are missing in action this year but they believe that people need reminding that they were around last Christmas. Here's a look down memory lane.

Swipe for a history of Kensington Palace.

R231 - Anne could really do much-much better with only a little extra effort. However, I respect the hell out of the Prince Royal and if she does not want to put in any extra effort in the grooming department then so be it.

Posting photos from a year ago (must every little thing that happened a year ago be celebrated?) just reminds people that the Sussexes haven't done anything worthy of celebrating this year. They botched Archie's birth, and they touched the South African tour. Totting out Meghan in a too-tight dress sticking out her tongue at an old folk's home followed at the very end by one photo of Harry as an afterthought ain't doing them any PR favors. They are just idiots.

Sussexes wonder why they are disliked, when they pull out photos of a couple of hour long gigs for the royal variety over a year ago.

R248 - Are you from the UK or are you an American who the closest you been to England is the Deluxe Edition Box Set of Downton Abbey?

Meghan's visit to the nursing home was only remarkable the first time because of the ill-fitting, out-of-season dress she wore and the awkward exchange she had with one of the residents about her pregnancy. Interesting PR move to dredge it up again. The photo of Harry smiling is nice though.

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What I find so puzzling about the Sussexes reviving insipid memories of what they did a year ago, and anniversaries of their engagement day and her visit to the Hub Kitchen, is their oblivousness to how awkward and lame these "reminders" are, especially in the UK.

The Sussexes, or their PR, or both, have a startling gift for making gestures that suggest the opposite of what they want the gestures to indicate.

H&M: "Look - remember us? See how wonderful we were? See how much memorable work we did?!"

UK Public: "Whut?"

That Santa video is embarrassing to watch. Harry comes off as a drunk, sad-sack Santa. And bringing up how important families are and that parents will never be forgotten? Irony is just lost on those two fuckers.

The "anniversary" recognition is very much something that's done by the average person who's very into social media. I'm quite sure Meghan would be posting many more personal images, and much more often, if only she didn't have to somewhat restrain herself.

And that was the cheapest looking Santa suit I’ve ever seen.

I dunno...I have to think Harry is sincere in his support of this organization. But that video has a cheap, throwaway quality to it. Everything is "amazing." He's really picking up his wife's LA-speak. Ah well, maybe the kids liked it, I hope so.

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^skiing

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Glamorous Diana.

Liz Taylor chats with the Queen Mum

Charles and Anne dancing on a beach.

What will the New Year bring? The Cambridges will undertake two foreign tours and launch three high profile campaigns in 2020.

I've been watching the documentary The Windsors, and one that that made my ears prick up is that George VI while still Albert was made Duke of York when he married Elizabeth (the future Queen Mum). Did the Queen make Andrew, her favorite son, Duke of York in homage to her father? Asking the elite DL British historians. If so, the shame he's brought to his grandfather's memory in addition of course to the immediate shame to the living family members.

I had forgotten that Zara bagged herself a rugby player for a husband.

R265 the Duke of York is the traditional title for "the spare"

Thanks, R267.

Random, but has Harry ever even been in Los Angeles? Las Vegas, we know. In any case, he must be curious about his wife's hometown.

Glad you asked. Harry's last visit to Vegas, r269.

When in Vegas.....

Since Andrew is without sons, it's been speculated that Duke of York will be reserved for Prince Louis.

I was going to ask that, R272, but forgot. Thanks. One wonders if Andrew will go the way Margaret did and clock out early.

yeesh, did anyone read the piece at r260? These aristocratic people seem so out of touch. Some of my favorite lines:

"Early in 1971 Princess Margaret invited me to be one of her Ladies in Waiting — I continued in the role for almost three decades — and every Christmas she held a tea party for us all at the Stone Hall in Kensington Palace where a wonderful tree would be decked out with parcels underneath. Some of her gifts were thoughtful and generous. However she also recycled her handbags, giving away ones she’d obviously rejected after several uses. She also liked to buy things that were robustly functional and practical, and I’ll never forget the look on the face of poor Jean Wills, another of her Ladies in Waiting, when Princess Margaret presented her with a loo brush for Christmas, declaring, ‘I notice you didn’t have one of these when I came to stay.’ Jean looked mortified. Of course she had a loo brush. She’d just hidden it — as you would — when Princess Margaret had visited."

"Not having such an elevated title, my husband, alas, came right at the bottom of the heap. ‘You can walk with the beaters, Colin,’ decreed my father. Colin was livid, but, with rare self-control, somehow managed to subdue any visible signs of anger. My father always thought Colin’s family — whose vast wealth and industrial dynasty was founded on their creation of bleaching powder in 1799 — were ‘tradesmen’ and rather beneath him."

Meanwhile Colin’s West Indian friend Basil — whom he’d discovered in a ditch some years earlier after he’d fallen off his motorbike — acted as Father Christmas. Basil ran Mustique’s first bar — it is still there today, as is Basil — and he was happy to dress up in a red suit and don a huge false beard, to the delight of our children. He’d arrive in a boat (not a sleigh), tethering it at his bar, which stands on stilts in the water.

I am 87 now, and this Christmas will be infinitely calmer and quieter. I will spend it in my modest Norfolk home — my late husband having left most of his estate, on his death in 2010, to a West Indian friend called Kent (but that’s another story).

NOOOOO!!!!

Oh, you just mean the title, R272.

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That lady is not Scobie in the video. Her comments seem flattering to the Cambridges.

Princess Margaret in the 1960's.

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R280 - They didn't show us a photo of his most striking physical attribute, anecdotally the one responsible for his extraordinary success in those circles with both men and women.

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George looks worried as usual during the Christmas walk, but Charlotte is a STAH, darlings.

Cute kids, but making a four-year-old hug strangers and accept their gifts, yech. Yes I know, bah humbug.

They may as well get used to it now. Hugging strangers and accepting their gifts is going to pay for the incredibly luxurious lifestyle they'll lead the rest of their days.

A handshake (wearing gloves) is fine. I can't stand the hugging. Thanks a lot, Diana.

Happy 83rd birthday to Princess Alexandra of Kent.

A video of Charlotte who was the star of the show. She did very well for a four-year-old on her first walkabout.

The Royals leaving church.

Kate had a green dress on underneath her coat.

Actually, the woman in the wheelchair apparently reached for her and said, "Give me a hug," and Charlotte, with a bit of hesitation, obliged. Charlotte didn't start out to hug the woman.

It's definitely the photo op of the walk, and the Sussexes, as usually, totally blew it by leaving the field to the Cambridges and their adorable children.

Kate looks fabulous. Note that Edo was there with Beatrice, he's clearly not running off, as were Eugenie and her husband, and the Wessexes, and Anne, looking slightly butch as usual in a quasi-military coat and hat in a lovely shade of purple.

The Queen looked fantastic in red with that enormous diamond brooch on her left shoulder.

All in all, the underlying message was, Who needs the Sussexes? We don't.

The who?

Princess Charlotte is going through a bit of a holding-onto-Mum's-skirts phase, from what I can see. Not sure whether she's just got shy, or whether it's fear of getting it wrong with all eyes on her. She has always been dutiful, but when very small that just consisted of waving when told, etc. Now she's of an age where she can see she could muff it, and it's causing her to shrink back till given instructions. (She's probably been going through Aunt Meghan's press.)

R293 is right - the woman in the wheelchair smiled and held out her arms to Charlotte, creating a little pocket of reassurance (at the right level for a child) in a seething crowd.

P.S. Every time I see the Cambridge kids at formal events now I think of the words of this DL wit (not me) and chuckle: "Kate is creating 'working' clothes for them, which must also help with behavior: they'd know that when they're dressed like the ghosts of children who died in the War, it's time to behave and wave to the cameras."

I wonder just how many pictures this thread has been spammed with now. Its easily got to be over 100. I have to log out to read it without all these annoying links slowing my comouter down.

I wonder just how many pictures this thread has been spammed with now. Its easily got to be over 100. I have to log out to read it without all these annoying links slowing my comouter down.

Prince Philip is topping the 2020 Death List. For profession he's listed as "casual racist." Someone had a sense of humor.