John Payne, he of the'' Miracle in the 34th St. '' hottest leading man Hollywood ever produced

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Why have I never heard of him before? What ever happened to his career?

You've never seen or heard of Miracle of 34th St one of the most famous films of all time?

^ Is that the one with Taylor Swift?

R2 he was disfigured in a car crash and disappeared for many years, when he came back, Hollywood was dead. But he was the hottest thing ever

In an interview many years ago Joan Collins said that one of the first things she wanted to do when she reached Hollywood was to meet John Payne.

Crazy for John..

R6 That was edited. She said she wanted to fuck John Payne.

Yes that's the one. With Taylor Swift.

I remember when she interviewed Jane Russell, she said something along the lines of ' oh you had hard times, but you had an affair with JOHN PAYNE, so you DEFINITELY had a good time too, ! ' Jane smiled and said..'well...YES'.

Classic

[quote]In an interview many years ago Joan Collins said that one of the first things she wanted to do when she reached Hollywood was to meet John Payne.

Just last week she said she wanted to fuck LIAM Payne.

Heard he hated the gays...

1940s poster boy for AWG.

Not bad looking.

His daughter Julie Payne, with first wife actress Anne Shirley, died in June of this year.

SORRY R6, I read Joan RIVERS.

teamed up with Alice Faye in a 1974 revival of the musical Good News / national tour

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AWG ? Really R14 ??

THE DINGHY WAS BANGING AGAINST THE BOAT !!!

His wives called him John "Pain as in agony."

jane russell was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too classy to be on this show... and joan just wouldn't let it go!

Long legs, too short trunk. He was oddly shaped, which is why he looks best in photographs taken from a certain angle.

I'll take him. The short torso comes from the swimming trunk tucked all the way up to the armpits. Not short perfect.

His muscular build kind of ruins it. I prefer the slim Handsomeness of Gregory Peck from that time period.

Saw GOOD NEWS. He was dull, but I wiah I had known his beefcake history.

Epic case of BDF

R27, he's a waste when dressed.

R2 he was HUGE !!!

I wonder if he ever engaged in the homosex.... Here he is with Randolph Scott in To The Shores Of Tripoli (1942).

Photographed by the legendary George Hurrell, with a Gable-esque mustache.

Now THERE'S a man!!!!

(Though the shitty mustache was a mistake....)

He was suckin' in his gut in all those photos.

[quote] Here he is with Randolph Scott

That bitch!

With Miss Janet on Columbo.....

Rich boy prep who grew up in a slaver's mansion in Virginia.

With that body R31, How could he not ?

Defining ' handsome '

Admiring Tyrone...

Aside from his beauty, he was an excellent actor -- very natural and likeable on screen. I think a large part of the success of MIRACLE ON 34th STREET is that he's so utterly likeable in a role that might have come across far less so if someone else had played it. Some of the other actors in the movie have the occasional false moments, but not JP.

Where are the dressing rooms please ?

He could also sing very well, as the clip with Betty Grable above shows, so he was also used in quite a few 20th Century Fox musicals. He was in a terrible car crash later on, but did have plastic surgery that was mostly successful, and he started acting again. Very handsome guy, and a talented actor/singer, too. What a hottie! Kris Kringle lucked out to have him as a roommate!

Indeed

Why were men's swim suits and even pants so high back in the 30s/40s? It's very frustrating.

Hike your pants up so that the waistband is center over your naval, r45. That's where your actual waist is.

Why was I partnered with Mickey fucking Rooney and Karl 'alfalfa' whatnot ? THAT'S very frustrating !

You're welcome R45

That's quite a nice photo R48

I only know him from Miracle on 34th Street. He reminds me of Kevin Spacey (or vice versa I guess.)

Yes he looks exactly like Kevin Spacey.

[quote]I only know him from Miracle on 34th Street. He reminds me of Kevin Spacey (or vice versa I guess.)

Sorry that your vision is deteriorating, R50.

OK tasteful friends, what the hell kind of costume de bains is Monsieur Payne sporting in R48?

Feeling the Payne for no reason

The legs

I want to nibble on that lower lip for days.

[quote]Some of the other actors in the movie have the occasional false moments, but not JP.

Who are you calling false? You take that back this minute or I'll come over there and give you what for!

He had an amazing "V" shaped torso that may seem curious now, but it was THE ideal 1940s male figure, perfect for sharply tailored double breasted suits.

He was extremely smart and well-spoken, and made one of the best celebrity questioners on WHAT'S MY LINE? He played to win.

I want to nibble on something else

[quote]He had an amazing "V" shaped torso that may seem curious now, but it was THE ideal 1940s male figure,

Are you suggesting that a V-shaped torso on a man is not currently in fashion -- and won't always be? Are you on drugs?

r40: Todays taste would demand much more pumped pecs and arms, but that is the most extreme 'V' I've ever seen. That waist is TINY .

Sorry, meant r60. See what I mean? John had the "V" of "V"s.

R58 I love it but my 2019 aesthetic finds the production levels so shabby.

Did John Payne have slutty "playboy" phases? Was he a faithful husband? Man whore?

When I was a little boy and thought John Wayne was the greatest thing ever, I used to sometimes see movies with John *Payne* in the TV guide and eagerly wait til they were on to watch them, then be bitterly disappointed to see Wayne wasn’t in the movie. That happened at least twice! How embarrassing.

As a matter of fact, John Payne was indeed beautiful, but his costar in MOTFS was even more so.

[quote] His daughter Julie Payne, with first wife actress Anne Shirley, died in June of this year.

Oh my god, they died together? Was it a car crash or murder suicide?

Why is he wearing spanx @R5?

In other pics, Payne's pic doesn't look SO small in comparison to his chest as in the pic at R61. Anyway, my main point is that a V-shaped torso is still, and always will be, the ideal for a male.

Sorry, I meant: In other pics, Payne's WAIST doesn't look SO small in comparison to his chest as in the pic at [R61].

I 've never seen si much of a golden age star.

He's a sweaterful!

The famous "Kid Nightingale" photo with his bulging cock and balls in the silk boxing trunks is so hot I'm surprised it was publicly released at the time (1939) . Movie stills were often rejected or retouched if considered too suggestive or revealing.

The original Betty Grable over-her-shoulder pin-up showed her ass crack which had to be airbrushed away to get the censors approval.

John Payne's 2nd wife was the very talented Gloria DeHaven, who unfortunately never really became a very big star at MGM despite a beautiful singing voice. Here she is singing "Who's Sorry Now", which was introduced in vaudeville by her mother, who she is portraying in this clip.

Gloria was a lucky bitch

More hotness

He had a nice body, he didn't need those grandma panties

R73, Gloria played Judy's younger sister in "Summer Stock".

Au naturel (unshaved)

forget john payne! the real lucky lady was to have clint walker in bed! OMG TO THE nth degree!..

Blech:

[quote]Payne was a Republican and in October 1960 he was one of many conservative notables who drove in the Nixon-Lodge Bumper Sticker Motorcade in Los Angeles.[30]

Blech:

[quote]Payne was a Republican and in October 1960 he was one of many conservative notables who drove in the Nixon-Lodge Bumper Sticker Motorcade in Los Angeles.[30]

It's obvious he fucked Tyrone

R82, Who didn't?

He was handsome, all right, but he was no Rory Calhoun...

R84, he also didn’t have the pleasure of Guy Madison fucking him in the back seat of a Buick.

Steve Cochran aces John Payne for me.

I don't know who that guy is @R85, but I googled more pictures. Damn, he was gorgeous.

R87, Watch "Till the End of Time" on TCM the next time it's aired. Guy Madison is hot as fuck in it and he has a couple of shirtless scenes.

No. John Payne still wins.

What makes them all gorgeous esp. Clint Howard, is their glorious hairy chests. Literary tall, dark and handsome. Just gorgeous.

Oh fuck, Clint WALKER. I meant!

R90 clint walker: add in his super masculine manner, his baritone voice and his natural built physique and height and come on! he was THEE walking wet dream of his era.. and no man since has been his match or the same type in hollywood.

guy madison was so damn pretty..

i would also add steve reeves, who was a perfect combination of pretty boy and masculine handsome... perhaps the most perfect example ever of those 2 opposing male hot description in/of looks.

sword and sandal star and former bodybuilder reg park was also a slab of beefcake with his beard in those hercules and other movies.

mike henry as tarzan with dark virile look to him, that deep voice and that hairy ripped chiseled physique and the smallest loincloth of any tarzan ever!

Gloria DeHaven did a night club act in Windsor, Ont. All the senior kids went there after prom. That's how low she fell.

I saw Good News the night Alice Faye's Donald Brooks couture gown open in the back and you could see the waist band of her pantyhose and the mike wire running down her back. John Payne was dancing with her and he was still super handsome, but both were too bland on stage and the show was weak.

I was dating Donald Brooks at the time and he wanted to introduce me to Alice and John, but I was too shy.

R94 are you CRAZY ??? YOU COULD HAVE MET JOHN PAYNE !!!!

Why were the movie stars of that era so much more handsome than those of today?

Because they were seared and brought up by real men and women, not the degenerated single mother fraus that we have now. Who couldn't raise a chicken.

I went to an MGM stars reunion at Carnegie Hall; it must have been the mid-to-late 1980s. I saw Ann Miller outside the stage door with her huge pile of hair (rumor is one time she fell and it broke!). Anyway, the best performers that night who attended and who still really had it at top level were Gloria DeHaven and Tony Martin, who in his late 80s or early 90s still sounded wonderful singing "All The Things You Are", I believe. Gloria, I think, sang "Who's Sorry Now" beautifully. I think Ginger Rogers was there, perhaps Mickey Rooney, don't think Jane Powell or Debbie Reynolds made it that evening, but there was a pretty big representation of what was MGM that evening. Google hasn't helped yet in my search for the details.

B-movie actor. Second string Tyrone Power when he was at Fox. Went on to freelance in bad Universal films, then episodic tv. Hardly a leading man.

R98: I'll bet Rooney was there---probably mugging for any cameras present and hoping someone would cast him in something, anything, so he could pay his wives' alimony.

Tyrone Power was in the top 3 most popular leading men in Hollywood for his entre career. A second string to that is still a big deal. Cunt

Not at a relatively small studio like Fox.

[quote]OK tasteful friends, what the hell kind of costume de bains is Monsieur Payne sporting in [R48]?

I recall reading somewhere that the suit was of his own design, and he even tried marketing it. It looks like it might be just a piece of fabric, wrapped around and fastened by tying the corners together, and might "accidentally" come untied pretty easily!

R98, I saw that show, and yes, I remember how beautifully Tony Martin sang, even at his very advanced age. It was quite extraordinary.

Was this the show R98/R104?

I guess it was the show, though I seem to have remembered it being sometime in the 80s. Hell, 20, 25 or 30 years in the past seems about the same by now. It was a fun evening. I don't know if there were any changes between the two nights in terms of who performed.