Was Kamalas collapse caused by racism or sexisim

Speaking as the next campaign to collapse

She's fulfilled her duty and will serve in either the Biden or Warren administration.

Sit down, Julian, you're not getting any of Kamala's few supporters.

[quote]Was Kamalas collapse caused by racism or sexisim

Her "collapse" was caused by her unsuitability. Voters are not as stupid as she thought.

The most important job of the president is hiring the right people. She doesn't have a good track record.

She didn't have that "drag Queen sans wig" look that Ms. Julia has.

I was behind Kamala until she pulled that stunt on Biden.

Kamala supporters on twitter can suck my dick. How the hell was the nytimes article unfair?

Both, OP.

I really liked her. A lot. Easily my pick. And then she ran a terrible campaign. The end.

Quick, tell me one substantive proposal that Harris made.

Now tell me one significant thing she did in the Senate.

That's your problem. You could tell me Biden, Sanders, Warren and I can tell you what they stand for. I may not necessarily agree with it, but I can tell you their "brand" so to speak.

Black voters, which take up a large part of the Democratic electorate and tend to vote as a block, are still coalised around Biden. And Harris' record of locking up thousands of black and brown kids for nonviolent drug offenses left nothing to inspire.

So I say good riddance. Castro needs to drop out too.

Quick, tell me one substantive proposal that Harris made.

Now tell me one significant thing she did in the Senate.

That's your problem. You could tell me Biden, Sanders, Warren and I can tell you what they stand for. I may not necessarily agree with it, but I can tell you their "brand" so to speak.

Black voters, which take up a large part of the Democratic electorate and tend to vote as a block, are still coalised around Biden. And Harris' record of locking up thousands of black and brown kids for nonviolent drug offenses left nothing to inspire.

So I say good riddance. Castro needs to drop out too.

Nope. She’s just a cunt.

Bad campaign and came across as thoroughly unlikable. Race and gender really didn't enter into it (but probably made her collapse a bit easier).

Not likable. Someone I might higher as a lawyer on a team but not as a leader of the most powerful country in the world.

Yes, because Democrats are all racist and misogynistic.

Republicans are all racist and misogynistic.

There, fixed it for ya.

I thought Kamala was really likable. When she first announced, she was great in interviews. But it became evident over time that she really didn't stand for anything. She always tried to stake out a me-too position based upon whatever the popular proposal was at the moment. You can't really build a campaign on that.

Her pussy stinks.

Kamala’s Collapse was caused by money. Not enough of it.

We TOLD you so, DL's Kamaltoe troll / cheerleader.

Well, since she was polling poorly with the black community, I'd say...

No, not really.

No one was that into her.

Always such a good idea to take on the media. He’ll do really well with this strategy. Who’s running his campaign, Kamala?

She was a bad candidate. No one liked her.

Yes. And now we face an all white Democratic debate panel

Yes. And now we face an all white Democratic debate panel

That depends. Which one was her nickname for her campaign?

Castro is another one who's been making it all about race recently. Not a peep about how Iowa and New Hampshire are too white to be the first caucus and primary of the cycle... until Pete started polling well there. Now he can't shut up about it!

He has a point. Castro was whitewashed out of the debate lineup...and now this?

I can't believe that people are using racism as an excuse for what happened to Kamala. Kamala had three big issues. A horribly run campaign, no clear message, and she could never gain traction with black democrats.

The busing thing, the t-shirt, and money for homes to increase black ownership didn't help either either. That wasn't racism, people saw it as disingenuous and pandering.

[quote]Castro was whitewashed out of the debate lineup

What. Does. That. Even. Mean?

People saw his nasty true colors when he (wrongly) rode Biden's ass for misremembering a thing and his polling took a dive. That's it.

Kamala was running when we are, culturally speaking, in a very conservative period, and a woman running for president upsets a lot of people. A black woman is completely off the table for more Americans than we want to admit.

That said, I don't think it was mainly racism. She was formerly a prosecutor and a lot of liberal and leftist folks who would have voted for her otherwise, as well as people of color of any political orientation, weren't happy with that.

She flip-flopped a lot, seemed uncomfortable in a lot of public situations, pandered in obvious ways, and like others noted, had no real message.

[QUOTE] She was formerly a prosecutor and a lot of liberal and leftist folks who would have voted for her otherwise, as well as people of color of any political orientation, weren't happy with that.

Oh sure...just let criminals run the streets. Shows the mentality we are dealing with then.

Her history as a prosecutor wasn't exactly spotless, R33.

There's a difference between being uneasy with her prosecutorial record and her being a prosecutor. Biden leaned into the latter at one of the debates, pointedly saying he chose to be a public defender instead. But we need both for the justice system to work!

Misogyny. And the Russians.

I actually admired her tough stance on crime.

What about her anti-white racism and anti-male sexism towards Pete along with her stealth homophobia that manifested itself in her campaign with the way she tried to talk down to him?

She's married to a white guy. She's no racist.

R39 Bad analogy. Like saying a man married to a woman can't be a misogynist.

It was neither. She didn't have a plan, was wishy washy. Once her past came out, that didn't help.

Sorry, I just don't buy the misogyny thing.

The single most controversial woman in the country won the popular vote, as people are so fond of repeating ad nauseam her. And, yeah, on a good day a lot of people found her hard to like - but for the electoral college she won the election, and that's a structural matter. The states she lost didn't vote against her they voted for that Tweeting pumpkin disgracing us all right now.

So where's the proof the country won't vote for a woman? It did. She won the most votes.

If there's a problem it's that the Democrats keep putting forward the wrong women as candidates, but that's a different story.

The day this happened Van Jones was grinning and moaning about all the things stacked against Kamala. Didn't make a comment I caught with regard to her campaign and platform problems. But it was clear Jones feels black Americans are entitled to a black candidate on the ticket. My impression was every time there's a ticket, going forward. I didn't know what to make of it and I don't know if it's sustainable. Bakari Sellars, another CNN talking head I used to really admire, was also a pretty petulant Kamala supporter.

Does anyone else find it hilariously sad that CNN had Charlemagne The God on their channel to discuss his support for Kamala Harris? What does Charlemagne know about politics?

She has a scolding tone to her voice. She trots out her blaccent (or not) depending on the audience. Hillary did that, too.

That’s just the surface.

So, the only surprise out of this Democratic presidential nominating process has been the success of Buttigieg. Biden, Bernie and Liz being front runners isn't a surprise and there's only room for a certain amount of people at the front of a huge pack. It's only normal for the other 23 people who announced to fall by the wayside. If any of them had anything interesting about them, they would have lasted longer. Harris had a bit of a buzz but she never did anything with it...that's not racism or misogyny, that's just her running a lousy campaign without a clear focus.

Buttigieg is the only one who has caught on but even that isn't really that big of a deal...he's mostly polling 3rd or 4th in most states and usually in single digits. Unless Biden has to drop out, Mayor Pete is really just eye candy and maybe a Veep possibility for 2020.

The far left hated her with a passion. Everything from her awful role as a prosecutor to her support of Israel. Now suddenly she’s a saint. I swear these people need to find victims in everything. It gets them off.

Campaign infighting. Adjusting her policies to suit the wind. Calling herself African-American when she's of Indian and Jamaican descent. That nasal quality in her voice.

But she was my first choice, initially. I loved her toughness, her strength, her intellect. And she's gorgeous, in a "powerful woman" kind of way.

Then she tried to make excuses for her prosecutorial record, which is the foundation of her whole political career. And her criticism of Pete was a deliberate distortion of what he said.

Her sister was a poor choice for campaign manager.

And running for president is a grueling and tricky job at which many much more experienced politicians have failed.

It's not a fair criticism to say she has accomplished nothing in a Senate run by Moscow Mitch. She has been phenomenal in confirmation hearings. I hope she sticks around for a long time, even if I don't want her to be president.

The fact that any prosecutor would jump on the Jussie train without having the facts made it clear she is an incompetent fool. Then the that girl was me and going anti-gay was the final nail for her. She got her job by whoring. Everyone knows this.

Her collapse was caused by her own hubris.

Her collapse was due to her bad campaign. Stop with the sexism and racism crap. Cream rises to the top.

No diversity between Bernie (atheist Jew), Pete (gay) and Warren (woman)? Lordy, nobody uses race as cynically as the Democrats. Kamala simply sucked.

r52 And Amy! Not my pick, but she's a woman too and she'll also be on that stage.

R48 Jamaicans (like Sen. Harris's father) descended from western coast Africans, same as todays African Americans. So that makes her Indian-African American. This "she's not 'black' black" talk is nonsense.

This.

She had 0% African American support. RACISTS!

Her standing by Jussie should have been used more by her competitors. She looked like an idiot after it was made public Jussie was a liar.

Dumb twat trolling by OP and many social media cunts.

Candidatures die all the time. It's called a campaign. No need to overthink it with SJW speak.

Heterosexual women need to check their heterosexual privilege.

R51 There you go again

[quote]Stop with the sexism and racism crap. Cream rises to the top.

Then the laws of physics are racist and need to be repealed! I demand reparations for every child who got injured from copying Bugs Bunny cartoons!

R54, yes, I understand that she has African background. I don't care what she calls herself. It's not an issue for me. There was a bit of a hoopla among some African-Americans who apparently felt she was trying she was trying claim membership in a community she's not part of, at the same time her history as a prosecutor depicts her as an oppressor of that community.

A white American born to parents of South African parents can also technically be called African-American.

Yes, I should have done a better job of editing at R62.

Bullshit...she simply lacked real substance as a candidate. She was a shameless panderer and I found her “that little girl was ME” retort to Joe Biden in one of the early debates was manipulative to the max and so beneath her (or maybe not). She lacked spontaneity she was too rehearsed. Her ruthless attitude towards putting people in jail also had ramifications, especially and surprisingly in the black community. Glad to see that some black voters won’t be swayed by a black candidate because they have the same heritage.

The sexism thing is dumb...also with Hillary as well. "America is sexist and not ready for a powerful woman!"

Bullshit.

Uh, how many female governors and mayors and senators and legislators do we have? It's odd people have no problem voting for them for those offices but President is out of bounds?

No. It's because Hillary was a terrible candidate with a shit ton of baggage (uh, her husband). In Kamala's case, she didn't define herself or her campaign.

Since his weight loss, Rev. Al's head looks too big for his body. Castro is a hot little firecracker.

R65, Hillary won, don't you remember?

But she also faced lots of sexism, like being held accountable for Bill's sexual proclivities by people who would vote for Trump, proving they didn't give a shit about sexual mores, they just wanted to smear her.

Hillary was damned if she did and damned if she didn’t...you can never get a straight answer from her, which didn’t help matters.