Who the fuck are these people living in San Francisco and why would they want to pay those prices??

What do you suggest happen instead? Cities are where the big careers and professional fields are.

Maybe you've heard of the tech industry, its headquartered there.

There are more people making a ton of money than there is housing. Ergo, prices go through the roof.

We are headed for a reckoning real soon. It won't be climate change that thins the herd. It will be economic collapse coupled with extreme overpopulation. For the survivors though, rent willingness be cheap and wages will be high.

R2 that is bullshit.

I have a rich friend from the UES in Manhattan (he comes from a line of rich family from there, as his family goes back generations in NYC) and he says there is going to be an economic crisis in the next 5-10 years and many of the people that are sitting comfy in this country and make excuses for shit like this are gonna start to feel what the poor are feeling now.

He said there is also an economic crisis coming to Italy.

Open a book. It's called supply and demand. The SF housing crisis is literally a textbook example.

It’s called GREED.

I see all of these threads about people bitching about life in cities, supposedly from people in a suburb or small town, but they never offer any suggestions to make things better?

Life in small towns is not great either. A lot of small towns are dying from rusting up or depression.

R8, sweetie. I am born and bred NYC, and still here.

There used to be nice paying jobs without an education. These mills and factories that could be in smalltowns.

In the modern economy most good jobs require specialized education, and these jobs are heavily concentrated in cities.

They went to college and got a good job and can afford that. What's wrong with it? SF is an awesome city.

You can't be cheap your whole life and why be a bush (Chicago) when you can be a majestic redwood (SF)

What a ridiculous comment, R4.

Who do you believe is most to blame for the price increase?

I've been in SF 20 years -- make a decent salary (but much less than the tech kids get offered right off the bat), not in the tech industry, bought a little condo 20 years ago and am lucky and recognize I'm incredibly privileged. Despite the changes the tech industry has wrought, despite the problems (homelessness and all aspects of our housing crisis), there's no place in the US I'd rather live. (Plenty of places overseas, but that's a different string.). Why? 1. There's no place better to be gay in terms of political clout and in terms of social inclusion -- even before gay people because cool, you could just be gay anywhere in the City and no one cared. That's a tremendous amount of background stress gone. 2. Despite our inability to figure out homelessness, SF is a birthplace of lots of excellent social experiments (environmental and social justice initiatives) that can happen here and few other places. 3. It's sex positive. Where else does the Folsom Street Fair happen every year, with the enthusiastic endorsement of the City government? 4.Best restaurants in the country, from Mission Burritos where 8 bucks for a meal that will last you a whole day, on up the price scale, in just about every neighborhood for just about any kind of cuisine you want. 5. It's incredibly easy to escape to wonderful, beautiful places. I can get across the Golden Gate Bridge from my place in 20 minutes and there's gorgeous, uninterrupted protected areas extending up to Oregon. 6. Within a few hours, I can be in wine country, the northern Redwoodsm, Yosemite, Sequoia/Kings Canyon, Lassen, the Monterey Peninsula, the California deserts, Big Sur.

There's more. I've been to just about every state and just about every contending location, and there's no place I'd rather be. (Except Melbourne, or Madrid, or Cape Town,, or...)

This has already happened in Manhattan, but Brooklyn and (lately) Queens can absorb the overflow. Some neighborhoods in Queens (like Sunnyside) are filling up with techie/millennial types. Where do you go if you can't afford SF? Oakland?

If you're going to San Francisco,

Be sure to sell your plasma and your hair.

[quote] 3. It's sex positive

Why are the bathhouses still shut down since the mid-80s?

[quote] Where do you go if you can't afford SF? Oakland?

There's a slight discount in Oakland, but that's become a homeless paradise.

Unfortunately, unlike NYC, there's literally no place to hide if you are price conscious. Even suburbs an hour away are overpriced.

Because Grindr, R16

I miss my two-bedroomapartment on Connecticut & 18th with 180-degree views of the city from Twin Peaks to the Bay Bridge for $318 a month

R5, did your friend make his predictions in 2007 or earlier? Because what you’re saying already happened. It’ s called 2008.

Also, as long as people can afford 4K/monthly due to a steady influx of college educated graduates flocking to the Bay Area for careers in tech, prices will never go down.

You think anyone in SF local, city and county government gives one flying fuck that people cannot afford to in their city? If you aren’t sure , ask the hoards of homeless people.

Rinse repeat.

Sick of white people always making excuses.

Imagine spending $3700 a month to walk out of your building only to step in human shit. SF is an absolute dump.

R13 I understand your defense, but not a single thing you listed is a selling point in 2020 when every other city in America offers the same thing (and better).

SF is, quite literally, a shithole.

I bought a loft near what was AT&T Park in 2009, a repo, for 359k. Sold in 2013 for almost 800k. It's worth 1.2 now. I made the mistake of leaving San Francisco for LA, made some bad investments, and regret it every day of my life knowing I can't afford to move back.

[quote]Who the fuck are these people

Morons.