Is Hillary Back In The Race?

I would vote for her in a minute.

Why not? I hear John Kerry, Mike Dukakis and Rochelle Obama are also considering it.

Rochelle is a second cousin but as she says "baby, rhyming name rec', so why the fuck not?!"

Seriously, though, these egotistical assholes need to can it. From two-timed HRC to short Deval Patrick to Daddy Warbucks to anybody else thinking their last minute time has come.

(Too) many people put their hands up early on, at the right time, and have been working the process. None of them are so awful these messiahs needs to come down from the mountain. They current slate deserves the respect of having stepped forward.

She would be instant front runner, so why not?

Me too, r1....

My Trump-voting cousin has been saying on FB she's going to run for almost a year now. He seems very enthused about the prospect, which means it's probably not a Good Thing for the Dems, but then, who else is there? Biden? Warren?

IMO she wouldn't even make it through one primary. Go away Hillary. You're done.

Her psychiatrist should be sued for malpractice.

I'd pay money to watch Trump mop the floor with her again

The Right would love for her to run again, no thanks.

Can this bitch please go away once and for all??!

I like her and wish like hell she were POTUS now, but it's time for her to go away and I really hope she's not fool enough to enter the race.

Don't forget about Mosie Boyd who's now on the list too.

What kind of people repeat the same action but expect a different result? Not smart people. Democrats, run someone who can win.

I don't care about phony platforms and promises they can never keep.....all they need to run is SOMEONE who will say I will fix everything that orange idiot broke......

Oh, what fucking sweet revenge it would be if Hillary ran and beat that motherfucking criminal Trump.

She could announce tomorrow and I would vote for her. I have wanted Hillary even over Obama since 2008.

I do NOT want to hear about her emails 100 times a day or the lock her up chant.

Hillary cannot get over the Socks problem, that cost her the last election

I want her to go the post-presidential Jimmy Carter route: a long life of respected humanitarian service, and a legacy that completely outshines that of cheetolini.

[quote]I want her to go the post-presidential Jimmy Carter route:

Well she was never president, and she never will be, and she'll forever be known for "her emails" and for losing to Donald Trump.

I’d vote for her.

Don’t forget, there was an entire Republican field that lost to Trump , it wasn’t just Hillary.

[quote]What kind of people repeat the same action but expect a different result?

I believe the logic of those fans is that Trump has proved to be so awful to enough people that she only needs to get slightly more votes than she did last time to beat him this time.

What a disturbing development.

I gladly voted for her in 2016, but she's absolutely not doing it. The last thing she wants is a malpracticing media having a field day with another run. Plus there is always a fake good guy like Comey claiming he's trying to do the right thing who would wreak havoc with her candidacy. And I think she's got other interests. She's got a lot of good advice and knowledge to share and I think she is doing it.

She needs to go home and bake cookies.

The Hil and Bill tour was an absolute disaster with tickets going as low as $2. She needs to give it up and retire to a quiet life.

There is already a front runner in the race that would beat Trump.

Joe Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary was when you look at the numbers.

No thanks Hillary. We prefer the poof!

I kind of hope so, really. The dystopic spectacle of it would be worth it.

[quote] She's got a lot of good advice and knowledge to share

Well, let's be honest....

I guess Hillary is one of those people who gets off on humiliation. That's probably whey she stayed with Bill after the BJ became public. Why doesn't she just join some sex club that humiliates and not take the entire country down with her.

I don't even know how she managed to get her self out of the (literal) woods... I would have just peaced the fuck out of the country all together.

That being said, you better not fucking run.

I want Hillary to start a chain of fried chicken restaurants. I need another chicken sandwich.

No one in their right mind would be telling her to "run." She's always around; she'll never give up trying to be "relevant." But her political career is OVER. She lost to DONALD TRUMP. It's OVER.

Russia stole the election. She was screwed out of the Presidency through fraud. It sucks, but running now wouldn’t be a good thing.

Please no!

I'd vote for any democratic candidate under the age of 60 before any of the ones over.

You know how much pussy I scored when she was out campaigning?

Who do you think has been telling her to run again. Maybe that person talked to some of his friends to get them to suggest it too. Maybe.

---WJC

I don't think she'll ever get over not becoming president. She's been working towards this her whole life and to be beaten twice, first by a nobody with little experience and then by a stupid celebrity with no experience. Thar has to be a bitter pill to swallow.

The deal with DNC in 2015 was she would run and raise money, and in return she would be supported until she wins.

Like it or not, there's no breaking the deal unless the party is destroyed.

It's her turn.

[QUOTE] No one in their right mind would be telling her to "run." She's always around; she'll never give up trying to be "relevant." But her political career is OVER. She lost to DONALD TRUMP. It's OVER.

I like Hillary as a woman, and think she would’ve made a damn fine president. I’m proud to have voted for her. But shit like this just makes me wish she’d drop dead already. I’m sick and tired of her bullshit.

[quote] Is Hillary Back In The Race?

Until she loses her footing and falls into the Cracks of Doom

We need to get serious about a candidate, soon. My take is the impeachment is gonna creep through the Senate after the first of the year. Miss Lindsey is giving up his post on the judiciary committee. Every single time I've turned on the tv or radio in the last five days, I've heard Nikki Haley, hawking her book and backing Trump like it's still her job. I think they know Trump is toast and are lining her up as VP for Mike Pence. It's my opinion only, but that's how I see the tea leaves.

In her mind she did nothing wrong, and only lost because Russians bought Facebook ads and paid Jill Stein.

Of course she's running. She'll not only be the most qualified candidate in history (even more than 2016), but the most electable.

Hillary can't beat Trump, even if Trump is in a weakened state from impeachment. When those two compete, Trump's personality prevails. Not saying that's fair, but that's reality. Hillary could, however, beat a bore like Pence. She should wait and see what happens. There would be real excitement if she jumped into the race.

[quote]I don't think she'll ever get over not becoming president.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

"I'm ready for my closeup, DNC!"

Nikki Haley doesn’t want VP. She knows Trump and Pence are fucked. She wants to be President.

"I don't think she'll ever get over not becoming president. "

There was some stupid puff piece about Chelsea Clinton in New York magazine. recently. It basically portrayed Chelsea Clinton as someone to sympathize with; poor girl, she's been through so much. The article really sucked. But it did portray the Clintons as being totally destroyed by Hillary not being elected. An anonymous friend said that "the whole family" has "never gotten over it." No, HIllary Clinton was never get over not being elected. She's so pathetic, always trying to make it seem like she should run again. I think if she did run again, and won the nomination, Donald Trump would easily win AGAIN.

She has one thing going against her and that is she lost a slam dunk election to a fucking bankrupt carnival barker.

The public is going to have a hard time believing it is only the "many, many people" that want her to run, and not Hillary herself.

Warren and Pete need to beef up their security.

She’s a far better candidate than anyone in the race, but unfortunately she’s too toxic now. It’s not going to happen.

R51 she was toxic in 2008 and 2016 too.

Arguably, she won in 2016.

[quote]I believe the logic of those fans is that Trump has proved to be so awful to enough people that she only needs to get slightly more votes than she did last time to beat him this time.

Not if they are all in California again.

It would be painful to watch her run again ... the wounds have not healed for us either, Hillary.

[quote]The public is going to have a hard time believing it is only the "many, many people" that want her to run, and not Hillary herself.

The public would believe it if she had stated it as many, many voices (inside her head). She's bonkers.

It's the same "many people" that Trump uses to justify his actions.

[quote]She's got a lot of good advice and knowledge to share

Dear Candidate: When I ran for President I [example goes here.]. When you run for President, don't do that.

I think it will come down to a Warren and Buttigieg as the two front-runners battling it out. One a progressive and one a moderate.

Biden is already flaming out and will continue to do so. Once the blacks start to lose interest in him, he’s done.

There’s no place for Hillary this time. She’s already had two chances and failed. Step aside already.

Sadly, it will be 4 more years od Trump. Shame on you America.

Warren will flame out once her policies are de-bunked. She's only popular on the coasts, which are irrelevant in this election, no matter how much DLers try to make her seem electable.

^^ Yeah. That’s why her poll numbers are continually rising. As people learn more about her policies, the more they like her.

[quote] There’s no place for Hillary this time. She’s already had two chances and failed. Step aside already.

True now, true before. But then that would have gotten you red tagged as a thought criminal.

Her poll numbers aren't really rising, ^R62, sorry.

Of 21 polls since November 4th she led in 3 and tied in one. Biden led in 15 and tied with her.

Biden is in no way "flaming out", that narrative has been pushed for months and months and it has never been true. He remains the front runner in national polls, as he has been this entire time.

The two people that wait on her in a restaurant are not "many, many".

In fairness, they did mention all their friends on the web.

Hillary's friend on the web.

[quote] Russia stole the election.

No, it didn't. There is no evidence that any vote was stolen or changed.

[quote] She was screwed out of the Presidency through fraud.

No, she wasn't. There is no evidence that any vote was stolen or changed. People in 3 lousy states just barely voted for Trump over her, plus black turnout was down nationwide, as black voters didn't want her either. That's what happened. You need to accept this and stop peddling stupid conspiracy theories.

[quote- It sucks, but running now wouldn’t be a good thing.

Hey, we agree finally.

The only votes that were "changed" were voters who knew she was more qualified, but in the end couldn't face several years of her. The "social media interference" reenforced doubts people already had about her. If these folks could have been counted as "supporters" they were very soft to begin with.

[quote]The "social media interference" reenforced doubts people already had about her. If these folks could have been counted as "supporters" they were very soft to begin with.

She was also under FBI investigation. That’s a fact.

She also had decades of scandals. She was being investigated and giving depositions and press conferences about her shady dealings in Whitewater back in the ‘90s when she was First Lady. That’s also a fact and most people remember it.

People were tired of her shady behavior and the perception that she was corrupt and always involved in sketchy dealings, whether it could be proved or not.

All of this was her own doing and caused by her bad judgment and bad decisions over the years, and not the result of Russian interference.

Fools. The DP has in Mayor Pete the most charismatic and smart candidate since Bill.

Russia hacked the machines and changed votes. Trump is illegitimate. #freerealitywinner

Actually, no, they didn't.

That woman is as fake as her teeth.

That woman wears polycarbonate dentures.

R73: Evidence, NOW! Or STFU. For 3 years I've seen select posters repeat this nonsense. JFC, we had one ding dong saying that Russia was hacking the Kentucky election last week as the results were coming in, because Bashear's lead decreased as more rural, conservative authoritarian areas of the state reported their results. DUH! Newsflash, Russia don't give a shit who the Governor of some landlocked horse ball state is.

Russian interference in the form of social media shitposts and email hacks did occur and right wingers were happy to ask and receive it. But that's it. People voted freely, and in some cases, studipdly, as they did. RUSSIA ARGLE BARGLE is not the cause of every bad thing that happens politically in America. Democrats can and do lose elections, including the great and powerful Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I remember that poster going on about Russia hacking the vote totals in the KY election, thankfully everyone just ignored them.

"As people learn more about her policies, the more they like her."

Uh, no. She's still very disliked by a great many people. Maybe even as many people who disliked Trump. I think they're both awful.

There have already been several threads on this OP. Would it have killed you to have done a search first before you posted this? I mean really? What’s wrong with having a little consideration for others and doing a search first? Would it really have been that hard? Would it?

The 2016 election theft was the result of voter suppression by Rethugs in many states — including Wisconsin.

Actually, R80, much as it comforts Democrats to believe this is the beginning and end of the situation, the New York Times did a follow-up story in Milwaukee. They went to black venues learning that many voters who could have shown up at the polls decided that they were so unenthusiastic that they didn't bother, same as general population.

Hillary is highly capable to be the president. She is educated, was first lady, governors wife, senator, and secretary of state. She has experience and good ideas. Her likability factor was demolished by the right-wing spin machine. The biggest problem with her becoming president is that impeachment inquiries would start on inauguration day and continue until she is removed or voted out. Years of that crap like we are enduring with the cretin we have now for the last 3 years would be just as exhausting. Hillary haters need to get real about what a corrupt and disgusting president is.

[quote] Her likability factor was demolished by the right-wing spin machine.

Because [italic]you[/italic] like her, it's inconceivable that others might not.

This geriatric woman is hanging around like bad smell. I hear she insulted Britain's first woman leader.

[quote] Her likability factor was demolished by the right-wing spin machine.

Right wing spin machine huh

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I would vote for Warren just so she could be the first female President. It would destroy Hillary.

Warren is a thousand times better than Hillary.

We had an article a few weeks ago about how some big money donors to the Dems didn't like the current crop of candidates, and then HRC tells us she's got people really wanting her to run, but no one believes it? Come on, it was obvious that people were wanting HRC to run again weeks and months ago. It's not a good idea on any level but people are panicking and make bad decisions.

I really don't think she's going to run but she needs to stop acting like she hasn't ruled it out.

Russian Intelligence Hacked Election Systems in all 50 States

People see that and they see that the government has done nothing to secure elections, and they see the 2000 election stolen, and they remember Karl Rove beside himself when results came in showing Obama was the winner when Rove clearly had been told he wouldn't be, and they start thinking other elections were hacked, too.

This isn't difficult to understand, and your continual "no they weren't hacked, you have no proooooof" whining is just trolling at this point.

You know what people are saying. You just don't like it, so you turn into one of the insufferable know-it-all trolls instead of trying to engage in actual dialogue.

R90: What dialogue? You people come here and scream STOLEN, FRAUD, CHANGED VOTES with no evidence and declare she won and if you so much as side eye her you're a Russian Nazi. There's no dialogue there.

From your link:

[quote] While details of many of the hackings directed by Russian intelligence, particularly in Illinois and Arizona, are well known, the committee’s report describes a Russian intelligence effort more far-reaching than the federal government has previously acknowledged. It concluded that while there is no evidence that any votes were changed in actual voting machines, “Russian cyberactors were in a position to delete or change voter data” in the Illinois voter database. The committee found no evidence that they did so.. While the report is not directly critical of either American intelligence agencies or the states, it described what amounted to a cascading intelligence failure, in which the scope of the Russian effort was underestimated, warnings to the states were too muted, and state officials either underreacted or, in some cases, resisted federal efforts to offer help.

I like Pierce, I really do. But I need serious proof of votes being changed. There is none! What you offered refutes that. Additionally, Clinton was winning IL, changing votes there would do nothing, same with Trump and AZ. I agree we need election security and should go back to all paper ballots everywhere. And Bitch McConnell should only drop dead. But there is still no credible evidence that votes were changed.

Black turnout was down nationwide, this hurt her in both Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. A lot of people believed the shit posting because they wanted to and because she does a terrible job of making herself look clean and non-corrupt. It's sad but true. This is why she narrowly lost. It's not trolling, it's the truth.

[quote]Sadly, it will be 4 more years of Trump. Shame on you Dems for offering wholely unsuitable candidates.

The top 1% are terrified that Warren will be president so suddenly those who will cater only to the 1% under the guise of being Democrats like Bloomberg and Hillary want to or think about running again. I forced myself, holding my nose and with a finger down my throat to vote for Hillary in 2016. I won't do that again. One way or the other I'm voting for Warren, even if it's a write in. I live in NYC. My vote won't really count anyway. I'm still sorry I didn't have the guts to write in Bernie in 2016. Either way fucking Trump would win and if the Democrats are so stupid that they put in Hillary again Trump will win again this time.

Outside of NY and CA Hillary is a very hated politician.

[quote]The top 1% are terrified that Warren will be president so suddenly those who will cater only to the 1% under the guise of being Democrats like Bloomberg and Hillary want to or think about running again.

Bloomberg already has the 1% vote. Hillary will probably try to get the Hollywood vote but she really doesn't have a chance. The party is sharply divided and she's not the person to unite it.

Hillary is just pushing her book with Chelsea. Philip Reines may still be obsessed with her candidacy but I would guess she herself is done. The woman has many qualities--some good, some bad--but she is not crazy enough to run again. Stop the pearl clutching already.

[quote]she is not crazy enough to run again.

I dunno about that

Whether she runs or not, it is clear the country is bought and run by the 1% and there is no opposition party.

[quote]One way or the other I'm voting for Warren, even if it's a write in. I live in NYC. My vote won't really count anyway

I’ll be doing the same. But I’m in Pennsylvania, so my vote for Warren WILL count.

[quote] But I’m in Pennsylvania, so my vote for Warren WILL count.

Yes, if you vote in the primary for Warren, or if Warren is the Democratic nominee. R93 would appear to be suggesting that he would vote for Warren even in the general election, whether she’s the nominee or not.

[quote] I’ll be doing the same. But I’m in Pennsylvania, so my vote for Warren WILL count.

I love Warren, but please don't vote for her in the general if she's not the nominee.

The last thing any Dem running would want is for you to not support the nominee.

The important thing is getting Trump out of the White House.

[quote] Whether she runs or not, it is clear the country is bought and run by the 1% and there is no opposition party.

I would like to slap you viciously.

[quote] Hillary is highly capable to be the president.

Oh my.

Hillary's campaign song.

[quote] Hillary's campaign song.

or this

[quote] Hillary's campaign song.

Her song: I'll Never Get Over You Getting Over Me

Seriously, she will never get over it, even as she quickly becomes just the answer to a trivia question.

Hillary's campaign song.

Hillary's campaign song.

Hillary's Campaign Song

Please no.

Hillary's Campaign Song

She is a lesbian

The late entry of Patrick and, eventually, Bloomberg, has many believing that they think a brokered convention is a distinct possibility - and why not that, too, in these interesting times - so Hillary could certainly get consideration in that context.

Did she ever really leave?

The amount of likes to the most vulgar replies tells you how many right-wing trolls are here to divide us.

[quote]hat kind of people repeat the same action but expect a different result?

OK Bernie.

The nasty warmongering cunt wants it so bad she can taste it.

Get the F out of here. She is not going to ever run again and anyone with half a brain knows that. She is sitting back watching the Trumpian shit show all the Bernie Brows and non voters created. Saying "I told you so" is so much more rewarding.

A brokered convention guarantees a Trump victory.

Do you think Warren supporters and Bernie Bros and Pete fans are just going to vote for Hillary or some other “appointed” candidate??

Of course not. Those Democrats would all stay home or write-in a protest vote.

R101, is 100% right but hillb0t will call him a Russian Troll

I meant R121 and not R101

I hope she runs. We NEED her.

R124= DJT

I would love HRC for POTUS, but I know R124 would fire up his DEPLORABLES and she would lose once again.

How many times does she have to take a step back, reflect, and ask herself, "Wait, they still don't like me yet?"

Instead of being such a narcissist, why isn't she preparing Chelsea to become first woman POTUS?

"Instead of being such a narcissist, why isn't she preparing Chelsea to become first woman POTUS?"

She's crazy, so maybe she is, though her little precious Chelsea is probably even more disliked than she is.

Chelsea is full-on frau.

Hill looks well rested and borderline glam in OP’s photo.

[quote]The amount of likes to the most vulgar replies tells you how many right-wing trolls are here to divide us.

If you're on the thread at the same time they post, you'll see them get 3-5 likes within one minute of their reply, which is of course ludicrous.

I can see how Trump and his cult members would be carrying on to beat the band when they beat Hillary for the second time.

Hillary is hated by most. NY and CA don't count. There isn't one other Democrat candidate except for Bloomberg who isn't liked way more than Hillary.

I pray this egotist doesn't run again. She will surely give us another 4 years of Trump and if you think he and the other GOP are bad now, imagine what they'll do if they get another 4 years, with nothing to lose.

[quote]How many times does she have to take a step back, reflect, and ask herself, "Wait, they still don't like me yet?"

She won the popular vote by 3 million you nitwit. In any other country she would have been POTUS.

Not correct R134 you need to learn more about the political systems outside of the US.

R131, Are you sure those photos are of HRC and not her double?

[quote]If you're on the thread at the same time they post, you'll see them get 3-5 likes within one minute of their reply, which is of course ludicrous.

That's ridiculously easy to do, as you can see from this post.

Oh, and for the record, Clinton isn't running. This is all just massive trolling.

Does "isn't actively running" include fantasies of being drafted?

She was found hanging around the hot sauce aisle on Thanksgiving. She's running!

She's not wearing make up. She's definitely running.

R139, are those her campaign managers?

r141, I don't know. But those two can not be worse than that Robi Mook

The main problem was that she refused to realise that she’d already had her chance in 2008 against Obama. She got the nomination in 2016 by bully boy tactics and scaring of the competition.

That’s why the likes of Bernie got as far as he did. A lot of voters didn’t want her as the Democratic nominee, however the more eligible candidates wouldn’t come forward due to the intimidating Party machine she assembled.

People didn’t like her but Hillary seemed to think that she had some kind of divine right to the nomination.

In the picture at R139, it looks like she's visiting a food pantry......wouldn't surprise me...... She's lived off the government all of her life.

The school librarian (who, with her business partner, does NOT have a joint fortune of $125-240M) look in R139 works rather well for her. For once she looks at ease and almost lifelike.

She's now the frontrunner:

Oh brother what a rat fuck.

Draft Al Franken

That poll is amazing in R146!

And pointless, R148, since she's not running.

She wants to run, you can tell by the comments she is making. But Trump would easily defeat her in the general. She had much more in her favor last time and couldn't get over the line. In saying that, the current Democrat field is dire, the front runner is barely coherent and will struggle to campaign well.

Her plan is to keep the voters she had last time, with him less popular now.

Hillary will never be president. She has to accept that and stop giving us a Trump WH.

She is a lesbian

[quote]I would vote for her in a minute.

I would do, too, and with no reservations if she were the Democrat's candidate in November, 2020.

I hope, however, that that isn't the choice.

Democrats have a bad habit of poor timing, waiting for "the time to come" for a certain candidate, a bit like the hierarchy of which civil rights leader marched most often and closest to MLK. Young, relatively unseasoned candidates are seen as unproved, unready, and so we get overripe fruit like Joe Biden. Biden, who many would say is past his time, but there's a big camp that will support him because "it's his turn" and he is better known than younger candidates. Some in Clinton's camp will agree with me that Biden's prime chance is over by an election or two or more.

Of course Clinton was cheated of the presidency, by various riggings of the electoral system, voting fraud and manipulation, Russian interference, etc., but I don't think you can run and run and run again for president. Familiarity eventually breeds a degree of contempt, not least when the very name Clinton has been used so often to condemn untold visions of liberal politics or the Democrats as unchecked villains that, regardless of any presence or absence of truth, roughly near half of Americans have bought into the mantra. Clinton herself campaigned with a degree of entitlement in 2016, a palpable attitude of "I earned this thing. It's my time." Many women voters of a certain age agreed in some respect, worried that most of their adult years had been spent waiting for a serious woman contender to the presidency and finally seeing a prize in sight of a woman president. It was their time, they thought, they deserved this: just as Clinton felt entitled to be president by the path she had taken, by doing so many things right for so many years and suffering not a few barbs and embarrassments along the way, middle-aged and older women felt entitled finally to have a woman behind the desk in the Oval Office.

But that's not really the way it works. It's been a long time since we elected a Democrat to the presidency who was a senior statesman, the veteran of many failed presidential election attempts, even a candidate widely known for years before an election cycle. The "up through the ranks" model is awfully fucking dusty at this point and the Democrat's party machine is still heavily geared as if that were not the case. There's no "Kennedy political dynasty" to save us, no Clinton Camelot to do the trick either.

In elections won on razor thin margins and trickery of all sort, pushing forward Clintons and Bidens and "proven" candidates seems a riskier prospect than ever just now.

SMH

The Washington Times is a right wing rag R146 R148 and the article is troll bait to rile up the Deps and make them afraid that we are secretly looking to make HRC the president

^^I mean it may as well have been subtitlted "So give Trump 2020 your money now to ensure that Hillary and her Pedophile Pizzagate Ukrainian Ring of Liberals Don't Take Your Guns And Right To Worship Jesus Away. Click Here To MAGA"