Fadi Fawaz claims George Michael was HIV+ and liked being fisted.

What an absolute piece of shit he is.

Fadi is disgraceful. He is not a gentleman at all. This is private stuff. Poor George.

So we've reached a point where mainstream media will just report as news the rantings on Twitter?

Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy end of civlization.

Not sure where in that article it mentions he liked being fisted.....

R4 - He mentions it in one of his latest tweets/rants.

He's quite camp here, being confronted this morning by a Daily Star "journalist".

That should trigger another Lovely Storm.

I don't know why anyone in their right mind would think sharing this would be a good idea. He's very ill...

The family don't care what comes out or they would have paid him off.

This is that CDAN Blind Item: "A+++ about to be revealed as HIV+."

He’s a very very sick man. Isn’t he moving or hustling on the streets? Many of us have suspected that George had HIV. So what? It’s disgraceful that he is trying to tarnish his image when George can’t fight back. RIP George.

* living

No one cares. I wonder at what point of "reveal" will he realize he's a non-entity.

I thought this was old news. George's earlier boyfriend had AIDS and I remember an interview where he said he was afraid to go get tested. I assumed he knew the truth and was afraid to confirm it.

Sorry but when you leave a deplorable side-piece out of the will, this is what happens. You don't take care of these people because the necessarily deserve it, you take care of them because it could cost you more if you don't.

Sorry, but you can't tell intimacies of your ex-partner, that's so trashy and classless.

R15 What has it cost him? He's gone. And apparently it's not costing the family anything either cuz they ain't paying no matter what he says. There's a lot of love for George. Fadi comes off more despicably with each new tweet.

Everyone already knew George was kinky, and many already suspected that he had HIV. These revelations do nothing but prove what piece of shit Fawaz is. Won't tarnish Geroge's legacy at all.

Saying stuff like this reflects poorly on Fawaz, only.

It's a shame George's addictions caused him to take up with such trash.

Who doesn’t like being fisted?

Well it’s interesting. And honestly sounds very believable. Classic drug addict gay behavior. I kinda believe him. Even though it’s seedy and trashy behavior, I understand it as someone who is desperate for money and is being ignored by people who have received tens of millions - most of whom didn’t put up with GMs crazy behavior and demanding, psycho drug habits. Like a maid, he probably should have been paid something. With that said, he’s also mentally unstable.

He’ll be selling stories like this for a quick buck for the rest of his life and they will get progressively more outrageous.

^ so that's gonna run what... another eighteen months?

What has it cost the family? It's cost them this press, right now, and I can assure you, they'd rather not be dealing with it. Never stiff the rentals -- it will come back to haunt you.

First, it's no surprise that GM was HIV+, and no shame either. As someone said above, the rest is run of the mill, usual gay (particularly middle age) addict behavior. Especially when you have unlimited funds. Drugs, hookers, sex marathons. Fun. Till it blows out your heart as it did for George. Those two sisters were idiots not to throw this poor guy a million or two just to be rid of him. So instead they have this. George was also a dick not to take care of him in some small way. He played with him for four years. The guy will likely end up dead, soon enough. Or sober up and hit one last payday with a book deal. But it's all asshole behavior on everyone's part.

I doubt anyone cares. He’s was poz and liked to fist. Big whoop

Big deal, I ff my husbear too.

It wouldn’t have made any difference if the sister’s had paid off Fadi from trash talking. He lived in George’s house for free for months, apparently went through the money the sister’s did give him and certainly didn’t handle the money and gifts George did give Fadi throughout the years they supposedly were in a relationship. Nothing would have been enough to keep Fadi’s trashy mouth shut.

I don’t think anyone gives a rat’s ass what tales Fadi spreads about George.

Exactly, R28. He is absolutely despicable and his motives are clear.

Nobody cares , George did not do anything to hurt anybody, and it seems as if Fadi had no problem with it until his cash dried up. The more he talks the more he digs his own grave. What a disgusting POS.

Well, who doesn't, OP?

He's clearly mentally ill. I'm sorry he's been such a public disaster.

But as for this particular news: is anyone surprised George Michael would be into extreme sex? And does anyone care?

I smoked crack a couple times, but never out of an Evian bottle.

No class whatsoever

What does all this say about George Michael though? He was uncomfortable with his sexuality (accordingly to Dame Elton John), he may have liked to fist (an unusual sexual practise) and he had an ongoing relationship with the likes of Fadi Fawaz.

It always strikes me a so sad that someone with so much money and therefore infinite resources couldn't come to terms with himself in a healthy way, yet men with far less manage to achieve exactly that. I wish Trump hadn't ruined the word Sad, because that's just what it is. George Michael was a train wreck too, just like his widow.

Fadi, going balls to the wall-

[quote] He never wrote his own music he paid other people to make the music for him and pretended it was him. Not so talented after all.

How does one smoke crack from an Evian bottle?

He's nuts but definitely amazing in bed. The crazy troubled ones always are.

Eeeeek!!

I'm going out to dinner! I don't need this visual!

I gotta have Fist-A-Fist-A-Fist-Fist!

Most of you keep saying no shame in him been hiv positive. I am sure the non fanatic fans are not so comfortable with that. Hiv + and been fisted might be a little much for those who haven't followed his life and career closely for years before he died. Even as a straight person this revelation is believable and a little much. I wasn't ready for it, not the hiv part but the fisting part.

Let me get this straight, towards the end of his life he was still doing hard drugs and entertaining escorts. I am not surprised at all. I thought goring was supposed to yield him from temptation. Most of you bought a lot of bullshit stories about him getting his shit together and changing his life. I don't doubt fadi the whore much. It is believable and very sad. A waste of talent.

Mustache Daddy Fadi!

OMG George was HIV+!!!!??? I'm shocked! Absolutely floored!

George's family should have settled with him (mid six figures) and made him sign a NDA.

This is so sad to see George denigrated by this loser.

Fadi would have blown through any "settlement" then blabbed, because to hell with a NDA when you're broke, homeless, old and used up.

If it makes anybody feel better about this whole sordid story, OP invented the fisting charge. It’s neither in the article nor in any of the underlying social media content of this Fadi weirdo.

DL is not infested with the trolliest trolls who ever trolled.

R46. It is not hard to believe but let op explain him or herself.

It doesn’t matter R46. You can’t defame the dead. GM’s sexual kinks and exploits were legendary.

The point of this wasn’t to get us to oooh over fisting. It was to make us oooh over drug fueled orgies with rent boys. Like, that would impress us.

Not *one* mention of a sling. Too pedestrian.

Everybody knew that Freddie Mercury was hiv+ and a fisting bottom, and he's bigger now than ever. Seriously, no one cares.

George's music catalog isn't a big seller anyway.

Perhaps it would have been better for George Michael had he stayed the chubby kid with thick glasses. He certainly had many insecurities for someone with so much talent. Prince and Michael Jackson didn’t handle their personal lives any better than George did. Being gay and in the limelight in the 80’s was actually a curse. George Michael had crappy taste in picking partners,. Fadi is one very bitter man.

So did George die because of Aids? If he was HIV undetectable and had been living a healthy lifestyle, he could’ve lived up to 80 easily.

I figured he had AIDS when he had that illness a few years back - something like pneumonia that was difficult to treat. Not sure what it was exactly, but it struck me that maybe his immune system wasn't very good. So the claim that he had AIDS doesn't surprise me, and really it's not a big deal, now. As for the fisting - well - who doesn't like a good lower intestinal massage every now and then.

Yeah. He wasn't just HIV+. Pneumonia nearly killed him at 48. That is an immune system compromised by AIDS, or ravaged by extreme drug abuse, or both. I am really surprised he never spoke about having HIV. He was overly-candid about everything else personal.

I had the same type of bug that George had, streptococcus. He had it in his lungs, I had it in my foot. I was healthy and 13, and nearly lost my foot. It left me with permanent damage to my foot and heart valves. I was shocked he survived.

Ref the fisting and not finding the comments. I read it with my own eyes and reported some of the comments as did others, some of which have been removed. Faty Fawaz was replying to someone and said sex with George was boring as all he wanted was to be fisted.

Whether he's lying or not, it's irrelevent. Nobody wants to read this shit, least of all his loved ones and close friends. Faty is deranged and one can only fear how he emotionally abused and blackmailed George towards the end, when it seemed George was already exhausted with life, both mentally and physically. You can sort of us understand that the only way out would have been through drugs and escapism. Talk about Faty fuelling his fire.

I'm actually surprised nobody has duffed this nobhead up yet, everyone knows where he is staying and where he frequents in the Drury Lane area. Vile creature.

Does this mean Fadi is HIV+? Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Honestly, I don’t believe the allegation. George Michael was too big a star and apparently had sex with many men. Others would have spilled the beans about the fisting long ago.

I find this all easy to believe, but kind of unimportant in the scheme of things.

I bet George was even wilder than we know, when rich, these guys do many nasty thing, this guys tell all book will be full of some horrid stuff, all true prob, George loved it nasty....he used to lay on the floor of toilets and take anything offered to and onto his body.

Typical two-faced Gemini

To be honest I thought George Michael came out as HIV positive when he was still alive. He lived a very sordid life (the drug use, cruising with total uggos who sold their stories to the tabloids). Nothing of what Fawaz revealed shocked me. And it doesn't shock me that Fawaz shared this after being out on the street.

But then I prefer to remember the great music performer and not the total mess of a private life he led.

PMSL over the Gemini referance. That with drugs and a dsyfucntional personality = time bomb. But he's only shooting himself in the foot. He has NADDA....absolutely nadda and it all seems to serve him right. His family no longer appear to support him, he has no friends, no home, will never work again in either the hairdressing industry or escorting or porn. All karma...all his just desserts. All he is had now is drugs and his sad fucking social media rants. Even the few fans that felt sorry for him at the start have disappeared. Serves you right saddo fatto Fadio.

He is quite stupid. He could have set himself up if he were charming and had a thimble of class, despite being a kept man. He could have had a modest comfortable apartment and a successful shop.

[quote]Sorry, but you can't tell intimacies of your ex-partner, that's so trashy and classless.

Oh please, George Michael managed to destroy his life and rep all by himself. Who gives a shit about him now? He had it all and threw it all away.

He's crazed with anger at this point. He's probably taking various drugs and that's helping to fuel his delusions and anger at the world because his cushy life was taken from him. If he had any interest in living a normal life he'd get as far away from London as possible. But it seems he's mainly interested in doing whatever he can to keep his name in the media and at this point the only thing that will accomplish that is saying something salacious about George Michael. He can't see (or doesn't care) that his comments are making him a pariah to most people.

Had he used his brain early on after George's death he'd be sitting pretty about now. GM's family offered him a nice payout which he stupidly refused, I assume out of insane greed. As with many people in his position he didn't want some of George's money. He wanted all of it and felt he deserved it all.

It's sad to see someone let their life go so complete off the rails when it would have been much easier to have a good life. He clearly took no notice of how George Michael's prior long term lover Kenny Goss comported himself after GM's death. I think if something doesn't change soon with Fawaz's life he's going to end up in jail, in a mental hospital, or dead sooner than later.

R56 - yep, it is in his tweets and replies.

He can say what he likes, poor George can't defend himself, and just because he says something it does not mean it is true. And either way, none of us give a crap what was done between consenting adults.

[quote] Oh please, George Michael managed to destroy his life and rep all by himself. Who gives a shit about him now? He had it all and threw it all away.

He never "had it all." It only looked like it from the outside. He was derided and put upon at least as much as he was loved. I would take his money but nothing else about his life.

It's sad but the George Michael story is another example of how becoming a rich celebrity doesn't always mean someone has a happy life. In fact, I think more often than not celebrities are more unhappy than average Joes.

I still listen to George Michael nearly every day. His flaws are no worse than my flaws. His very humanity, his frailty makes his strong music even more impressive.

I hope Fadi finds a home. He doesn't deserve to be tossed out; no human does.

R71. That is the problem. I don't think I can listen to an artist song every day I will get bored of their music.

Usually when these various celebrities off themselves I don't have much of a reaction, but George is the exception to me. The man had real talent. When he sang a song it was with feeling. Many of his songs are as beautiful lyrically as they are musically. As sleazy as George's personal life was when it came to his work he was pure class. He got better as he aged in spite of going down hill physically and emotionally. I think the greatest gift he left behind are the songs dealing with loss. Those songs have the ability to help people going through a difficult time in their own lives which is what I'm personally going through right now.

In spite of this trash Fadi is spewing, I can't think ill of George in light of all the philanthropic work he did that no one knew a thing about while he was alive. It only makes it all the more tragic that he passed at only age 53. He must have had some good in him and not just what we know about the drugs, drink and endless rounds of sex with strangers. I saw Elton's comments a few days ago about George not being comfortable in his skin about being gay. Unfortunately, I believe this is the truth. It's what I've thought about him for years no matter what he said to the contrary. The other thing that seemed to really effect him was the death of his partner to AIDS followed by the death of his mother. In that I can only feel compassion towards him. All that's left to do is enjoy the work he left behind, but it's all very sad.

These are the same racist white gays who atrack the Beyhive for being "obsessed" with Queen Bey. But look at them here, they are obsessed with George Michael and other white male celebrities. Hypocrites.

To me the worse claim here is that George didn't write his own music and that he paid other people to do it...that he was "not so talented". It's one thing to try to attack his personal reputation. But his professional legacy? If he's lying, that's horrible.

Boo fucking hoo.

R76 This claim seems countermanded by previous interviews with Andrew Ridgely, doesn't it?

r75

He's obviously not lying. These celebs are mostly phony. Their public appearance is built to be marketable, especially in George Michael's time. In the music world, most of these popular artists have ghost writers and many have "ghost singers" (forget what it's called) some of which have already been exposed.

R77. I think most of what fadi stated is probably the truth. He might not have been able to write his own songs later on when the drug use intensified. I mean we have read about some producers stating he was slow to work with in the studio and will disappear for periods of time. The ambition was probably no longer there to create a masterpiece on his own. Fadi was probably referring to the time he came in the picture. He probably needed help to create an album including a song writer as he might no longer have the drive and ability. I refuse to believe his earlier work was written by someone else. His later work is a different story. Sad all along.

I always thought George suffered periodic bouts of writers' block. I think he said it was several years after Anselmo passed before he could write but then when he did it was the beautiful "Jesus to a Child" and "You have been loved." George's "Songs from the Last Century" is one of my favorite CDs. It's all songs written by others but the talent he had for singing other composer's work made the CD sound like something totally new. I just don't buy it that he didn't write his own songs no matter what period is in question. If he were hiring others to write for him then there would have been no need to record anyone else's songs at all. The HIV claim could give me pause as it's not unreasonable to think he could have contracted the disease. I don't really buy that either though and as far as his bout with pneumonia goes my brother had the same thing. He is a non-smoker and never took drugs so pneumonia can strike anyone even though George obviously did damage to his body through years of substance abuse. Fadi is getting what he wants which is to throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.

R80. I can see you are in denial. His lifestyle choices points to hiv positive. The pornstar friends and anonymous sex with strangers. You must be one of the lovelies fanatics since you stated you listen to his songs everyday which is excessive. I sensed an uneaseness from your replies, in accepting the fact that he was a real mess. I don't think he wrote most of his songs later on because that was when the drug use intensified. Drugs create barriers to be creative especially hard drugs. It might calm him but it doesn't inspire creativity.

George Michael was HIV+??

George wrote his own songs. And he pretty much stopped writing in the early 2000s when his life and drug use had gone to crap. If he had a ghost writer he would have released more. One thing he wasn't was prolific. He had one song in 2012 called White Light I think and it sucked. I believe what Fadi has said except the song writing part. That's just BS. His personal life was sordid but his legacy as a song writer, pop star, and good person is solid. RIP

[quote] Sorry, but you can't tell intimacies of your ex-partner, that's so trashy and classless.

Wow. So, less than 1% of gay men are not trashy and classless.

If the fisting part is true it would explain why he was never gonna dance again.

Excuse me, but crap and tale telling like this only make me want listen to george now. You should’ve been around for the tales about Sinatra (who loved George), Elvis, Stills, Young, Crosby, etc. do you actually think these sons of bitches climb to the heights of stardom and stay there because they were saints, practiced abstinence and celibacy? Jesus fucking christ! You sound like a buncha NELLIE BOYZ! I fisted my ex for over a year because she always wanted more after my cock wore out every night! She’d had a hysterectomy and had nothing up in there anymore and found it comforting to have a hand there I spose. But, shit wears out. George wore out. Listen to some Neil Young. Some Elton. Some guys don’t wear out, apparently.

Oh, and follow the $...Fadi is obviously all about it,therefor, little he sez is evidential. A jerk who will soon be gone.

I know someone who worked with George on some of his albums and he's disgusted that FF has written this about George's body of work. He called George a genius. Like someone said above, if he had employed ghost writers he would have done so in the period when he was pressured to get an album out but had writers block, when he was in mourning.

There is one possibility IF FF was hinting at a truth though, and that is maybe he was referring to the song George wrote for Last Christmas.

Why are people so surprised GM did not write his own songs? I think this is pretty standard in the music industry. Artists usually write 1-3 songs on their albums and the rest comes from professional writers and producers. I know people who were hired to work with artists and producers on several albums. They get paid to come up with lyrics and ideas and the producers add the music and the artist decides if he likes it or not. Lots of artists with mediocre careers shop their music to bigger artists hoping to make a lot of money with their writing credits if the song becomes a hit. Lots of artists (especially boybands etc) who had big hits during their careers end up being broke later bc none of them owned the rights to their music or wrote any of the songs. They were just paid by producers to perform and entertain.

I'm sure GM wrote some of his songs and he was a fantastic singer and performer, but it is also weird that he only owned £100 million when he died. Really successful artists who write and produce their own music are usually billionaires. Just look at Paul McCartney, Paul Simon etc.

Nothing surprises me. I have a feeling Elton John has HIV too, he's always getting weird infections etc.

Not to be a jerk, but didn’t we know this already? I feel like I did.

But quite low to blast it to the world.

I think no one is surprised that a gay man who publicly claimed he had sex with thousands of men and was busted for cruising for sex at a public toilet, was HIV+ or even had Aids. Also not surprised he liked kinky stuff since he obviously hired hookers and paid FF for his escort services (who was also a former porn performer). I'm more interested how and when he got infected. His boyfriend died of Aids in1993(?) and if they had unprotected sex before he knew he was HIV+ maybe he got it from him. Which would be really tragic and also irresponsible since he continued to have sex with thousands of men after that. If he got it later in life, why did he still get Aids? I would assume he would get onto antiviral medication right away and never develop any Aids related diseases or symptoms.

R92. Why did you think he surrounded himself with trashy pornstars for over a decade and he went crazy a very long time ago. He probably had hiv since the 90s and it was the gradual decline into drugs and self disruption started. Even his appeareance started to change not that I am implying it was due to aids. That will explain his defensiveness and bitterness towards people judgement about how he lived his life.

George Michael was HIV+ ?

You can listen to George from now until November 8th on Sirius Channel 68. All George all the time.

[quote] I'm more interested how and when he got infected.

He had sex with thousands of guys. He liked to bottom. You need to know about the specific encounter that made him HIV+?

George Michael's last album sounded so much like all his other stuff that it was boring as hell. A decade had gone by; music had evolved and changed. His new stuff sounded stale

This is what you get for fucking over a loyal lover.

So is Fadi still homeless? George probably knew he was a two faced cunt and that's why he left everything to his sisters. If I had a fortune I'd leave it all to my siblings because if you're lucky they are the ones who are really there for you all your life.

Fadi needs money. There was no doubt, at least, in my mind GM had full blown AIDS.

He famously refused to be tested and dropped out of a documentary where he was going to be. I think he did find out in 2011 when he was hospitalized although he probably suspected, and then the numerous suicide attempts directly and indirectly. I also think he wrote his own music. Nothing else sounded like his stuff. And his later songs were really lovely as in Older and Patience. That was all him unless he had the same ghost writer from the very beginning of WHAM.

It’s been a couple of days since we’ve had a Fadi Fawaz thread.

FF is at it again on FB. He is going on about George’s father sexually abusing his sisters. The man has real problems.

This is news? Everyone's life partner is HIV+ and likes being fisted.

R103 post

Now he claims GM didn’t write his own music. This will end in death, sad to say. He’s spinning out of control.

Oops R106 forgot to post article.

So, is Fadi saying he's poz and contracted it from Yog?

I had read not long after GM died that he and FF were basically over as lovers weeks (if not months) before he died, and they were still living together but GM was in the process of figuring out how to finally get rid of FF. I picture FF as someone who fought GM tooth and nail to stay in the house as long as he could, coming up with excuse after excuse of why he was unable to move out. I don't know what the residency laws are like in the UK, but in America you can't just kick someone you've invited to live in your house out, lover or not and no matter if they were contributing one dime toward room & board. You have to go through the formal eviction process. If it's that way in the UK it could have been that GM just couldn't force himself to deal with it before he died. Hell, he may have known something was wrong with his health and felt kicking FF out at that time just wasn't a priority. And I'm sure FF milked it like a cow with a full udder.

In regards to George not taking an HIV test he told The Advocate" he took one as soon as Anselmo was diagnosed. He also said he always used condoms anytime he invited a man to his room and would only do certain things. I'd say he was talking about the earlier years, but there is this one accounting of him taking the test. No one will ever know if he had HIV or not so I guess none of it matters at this point. It seems a mixed bag where on another occasion George said when he slept with women he felt it would be irresponsible not to tell them he was bisexual due to AIDS. How responsible he really was only he knew and the people who slept with him.

R57 hint... hint... hint..

FF has said he was sleeping in his car outside George’s home when George was found dead in his bed. I too love George’s music and listen every day, such a beautiful voice. It’s heartbreaking he was so troubled.

Elton John told Sharon Osborne last week that George was very trouble over his sexuality and that he never really accepted it and felt awkward being gay, and Sharon agreed. Very sad.

One thing that has stayed with me about George's death is how people saw him looking out his window watching the procession of people walking to Christmas Eve service. That's the last anyone in the public ever saw of him. Another thing is his mother's birthday was Christmas Eve. Makes you wonder if he was just so depressed that night he literally went to bed and died.

George being a sex freak is no surprise.

What can FF say that the public doesn’t already know or can speculate. Unfortunately, GM’s life played out while living. He was pretty vocal. True fans understand GM is a magnificent performer and singer, and in the end know we are all somewhat fucked up.

R116. Yes his earlier work was really good. R110 George told you guys what he wanted you to believe even him alleged sleeping with women. maybe that is part of what Elton was referring to when he stated that George was uncomfortable been gay. Even after he came out he was still trying to push the bisexual angle to keep his female fans happy. R114 you are One of the few that believed he was the one looking out the window. Some posters in previous threads argued it can't be him because he had to have been dead by then.

At the time only one person said he was looking out of the window on Christmas Eve and it was never substantiated. There were a few hundred people in that procession. I think others would have said something if he were truly there. Probably a David Austin planted story.

I saw a segment on some TV show years back where GM was giving a tour of his home, the one he died in. It was very sad to see that it wasn't really a home, but basically just a roof over his head. He was going from room to room pointing out all the beautiful and very expensive things and when they got to the kitchen he talked about all the grand appliances such as the huge AGA which he said was never used and he didn't think anyone even knew how to use it properly. It wasn't his home, it was just his house. That's a lifestyle I don't even want to imagine.

Was there ever a time established by the coroner as to when it was he determined Geroge to have died? I always thought it was in the early hours of Christmas morning. It didn't seem odd that he might have looked out his window earlier during Christmas Eve to watch the people walking to service. It seems just a normal thing that I would do myself if I had a procession walking by my house. I guess that's why I didn't take issue with it because that was Christmas Eve where as George died on Christmas Day if we are to believe the reporting to the public.

Should I get tested?

It's interesting that neither the Metro nor the Sun referred to the bit where FF said George liked fisting.

R122. They won't mention fisting because it will look homophobic now. Ten or fifteen years ago they would have mentioned it.

I still think it was suicide

Come on. Why is this such a surprise? You only had to take one look at George in his latter years to see he was into the piggy sex

So reading between the lines; George had huge problem being gay due to his conservative Greek upbringing. He was devastated when his mother died and didn't really get over it. His lover contracted HIV and died of AIDS. He had to conceal this from everyone, Kenny seemed to have been the only stabilising force in his life and that ended. After that it was all down hill. He was unceremoniously outed. He had severe depression and didn't really give a shit, having sex with strangers in bathrooms etc. He threw himself into a life of addictions; booze, pills, sex. He never truly accepted himself. He tried numerous times to kill himself. His health declined because of his lifestyle. Somewhere along the line he contracted HIV. He wanted to die. He died.

I'm with R85.

Fadi is the messiest, grossest, no-class POS on planet Earth. I don't care how privately disgruntled you are that your ex-lover died and didn't include you in the will. Keep it to yourself, fuckwad. Vent to a friend. There is absolutely no excuse to stumble around behaving and looking like utter trash, and going on a massive worldwide public rampage, airing every ugly piece of dirty laundry on the deceased that you can vomit up. Says way more about FF than it does about George. In fact, his willingness to disparage the deceased only serves to align us with George and against FF, simply by virtue of FF being such a bitter, betraying sack of shit. His shamelessness negates any dirt he tries to offer up.

Any sane, classy person would move on, picking up the pieces and getting on with job hunting and living their new life. You can chalk up any manner of disappointments to experience. He could have bided his time and written a tasteful book about his life with George one day. If it was truly such a nightmare, why didn't he leave? No one put a gun to his head to stay in a dark, weird situation. But FF is too unhinged and cracked-out to summon any dignity whatsoever. He's morally reprehensible and should not be allowed to tweet.

I wonder what set Fadi off this time.

[quote]If the fisting part is true it would explain why he was never gonna dance again.

Guilty feces, got no rhythm....

Where did he meet this guy? And why move him in if it was just fucking? He should have left the guy something. Four years tending to a popstar ego deserves reward.

Why he isolated himself in this little village where he would undoubtedly be the tourist attraction is beyond me. The man is unrecognisable in the US. And in the UK he could simply have lived in celebrity rich areas. Why was he not in therapy? What did he do all day? Was he on drugs? Was he fucking anyone other than Fadi?

[Quote]Four years tending to a popstar ego deserves reward.

Uhm, he got £10k a month plus lived rent-free in a mansion in London for years. Add free vacations, gifts, dinners, clothes, cars. And he needs another reward from this ungrateful popstar?

Sounds like bullshit R134. Dude will premise you a monthly allowance to keep you close and the stop remitting as soon as he knows you're hooked. They know you can't push too hard or else you lay yourself open by a gold digger charge. But then at the same time you can't escort to boost your finances. It's a fucking trap

Fadi Fawaz is total trash, but I do admit to having wanked off over his porn flick more than a few times. He has a handsome face and some succulent junk, even though he's (unfortunately) cut. I'd have worshipped him from head to toe when he was in his prime. Why doesn't he just work out to get his lean body back and then go into porn again? He could support himself doing the only thing he's been useful for.

So he was a porn star? What was his stage name? Link to his oeuvre?

The simple fact that if GM had left FF millions in his will FF would still be singing GM's praises today. He's proven he's a lowlife who'll say anything based on his emotions, therefore nothing he says can be taken with a grain of salt. He's a buffoon, a mook, and very likely and addict & very mentally ill. He probably should be sectioned for his own well being at this point and treated for whatever is wrong with him.

Most of you are calling him names all because he is saying what most of you don't want to hear. I am no fan of fadi the whore but it seems like the extreme dislike for him is coming from George lovelies all because he deared say the ugly truth about George. He did not paint George like a saint just like some of you have did in your minds. I sense a discomfort and slight homophobia. He ruined the almost clean image of George by reconfirming he was a gay sex freak. His female fans find it hard to deal with.

You miss the point. What reason does this grifter have to even discuss GM publicly at this point. GM is dead and gone. Trying to ruin a man's reputation after he's dead serves no purpose for anyone other than the lowlife doing it. And what is that purpose for him? Retribution for what he perceives as an injustice done to him by GM by leaving him out of the will? I daresay he received far more than he deserved in the years he was with GM. He seems to forget about all of that. It seems GM decided he had received enough by the time he died.

FF is just a greedy hate filled lunatic at this point who gets some sense of satisfaction from saying horrible things about GM. Even if they're true, they're part of GM's private life and should be kept private.

If youre a celebrity you dont have a private life; it's part of the bargain. You get it back in wealth and power.

R140. I did not miss the point. You are uncomfortable with the ugly truth. You mask it by taking your frustration out on fadi. Yes it is a private sexual habit that should be protected. You and others forget that George sex live revelation is fair game to his whores. The man slept with flees and you know what happens when you sleep with them you catch all kinds of embarrassing disease. Every celeb that have slept around with lots of people do get revealed, this is nothing new. I am sure fadi was paid for that twitter rant since it ended up in the tabloid. The guy needs money so I won't knock him for his hustle. Whore is gotta eat. Next up a juicy tell all filled with drugs, sex orgies and other messiness.

Leave FF alone!

R139 Wrong. If you read through this thread you see most know George's dirty deeds and don't care . The sum of a man typically is not one thing and George's indiscretions only harmed himself. Who gives a shit what he did in the bedroom or what drugs he took. And he rightly had his driver's license taken away. Yes he was a mess but he was the first to tell you. Unfortunately he met FF who is swamp smegma with not an ounce of dignity or common decency. He IS the sum of his parts. George sure knew how to pick em and didn't know how to get rid of them as if it is to be believed, he was trying to get FF out of his life but he wouldn't leave. He deserved nothing and George knew why because George was known to be extremely generous. If he left FF out of the will it was for good reason.

R144. George wasn't always so forthcoming. I guess you forgot when he was arrested he claimed he only smoked marijuana and was exhausted. It was later revealed he had all kinds of hard drugs in his system. Most of you should have expected this. It wasn't like George lived a clean and dignified life most of the time. He attracted lovers just like him in more ways than one.

I think George suffered from very low self esteem which just goes to show all the fame, money and adulation in the world won't fix what is wrong with a person on the inside. I hope some day a serious writer will do a well researched bio on George. It takes a long time to research a person's life then write about it. Salinger's biographer traveled 5 continents gathering information on his subject in preparation. George reminds me of Capote in the way it was a years long slow suicide. Capote had an author writing a biography oh him while he was still alive. Later on this author said he didn't realize at the time that Capote was already in the process of self destruction going back to the infamous Black & White Ball after the success of "In Cold Blood." George's uncle and grandfather apparently both committed suicide. I've read two different stories about the Uncle. One was that he stuck his head in a gas oven. The other is it was by an overdose. I don't know what the situation was with the grandfather other than his suicide was related to the loss of his son. It would seem there was this inability to cope with pain that ran in George's family. His mother apparently was the one to find both her brother and her father. This is the kind of thing a determined author researches in great detail.

In regards to Fadi and George I would say they both got what will be the inevitable outcome for no strings and no real emotional feeling for the main person you're having sex with. It sounds like a paradise to have all the sex one could want available at the drop of a hat. It will remain fun and high living up until the time you find yourself in the doctor's office getting an HIV/AIDS diagnosis. If one avoids something that catastrophic then it's down to the more mundane of what we see now with Fadi trashing George after the latter put himself in an early grave. Sometimes I wonder if the public could have made a difference in the path George took. I know after that incident where he crashed his car while under the influence the judge gave him some jail time. Fans were outside wailing and crying holding I love you signs. George himself took responsibility for the fact he could have hurt/killed someone. Maybe the better route would have been fans holding signs that said George you need to be held accountable for your actions, and this time in jail should make you do some serious soul searching. Anyway just a thought on my part. which isn't going to change a thing since this train wreck derailed three years ago already.

Everybody is entitled to talk about their life experiences. EVEN WHEN those experiences concern famous folk. And thank god coz otherwise DL wouldn't have juicy memoirs to paw over.

I think Elton's comment about George not wanting to live anymore was about him deciding not to treat his HIV. I don't believe George was on hiv meds and that's why he kept getting seriously ill over the last years of his life. It was suicide by neglect.

George’s compulsiveness, to me, spoke of someone who had been abused as a child.

R148. How do you know he was never on hiv meds. He might have been on meds but his immune system was probably very compromised due to the use of hard drugs. I think Elton was referring to his inner conflicts of not living to what his father expected of him. He never had children and him been a sex symbol to female fans was probably a huge conflict. If he committed suicide the pressure of fame really got to him in the end he could not survive the pressure to relaunch his career and coupled that with his health issues. Also he had addiction issues too. It seems he had no solid support system.

I think one thing that kept George from going completely off the deep end was not wanting to cause his mother any further grief than what she already endured with two family suicides. Once she was no longer alive that incentive wasn't there anymore. I don't in any way consider this the only issue involved. I just think it's an important piece to the puzzle since George himself talked of indescribable depression over this loss.

R151 it's absurd to try and detect another person's motivations. At best you just impose your world view on them. We are complicated and every choice we make is factored by a thousand things. From your formative schema to your core beliefs to your self concept to your personality type to god knows what else. Why do you think people respond differently to the exact same stimuli?

We can only know WHAT he did do and not WHY he did it.

His uncle Colin was schizophrenic and killed himself by overdosing on barbiturates shortly after being released from a mental asylum where he had been committed for 3 months following a previous suicide attempt. George's grandmother (NOT his mother) is the one who found him dead in his bedroom. This is public information per inquest court records. Colin's father (George's grandfather) committed suicide 4 years prior.

Thanks for the info on the suicides. I thought Colin committed suicide due to being gay. He could have been both gay and schizophrenic. I didn't know any of this was in court records somewhere or that Colin had been institutionalized. Somehow the story got changed to George's mom having found him and not the grandmother. This is why I really hope one day there will be a serious bio written .

R137 You can view Fadi's porn film on the Pornhub website. Just go into the Gay category and search "Fadi", and it will come up. It's a Cazzo Films flick where he has two scenes. I attempted to post it here, but it doesn't stick.

R154. It seems like a lot of dark secrets in his family. Especially his mother side had so much tragedies. His sisters seem to have escaped the curse because at least they are still alive. I wonder why any of them never had children, maybe to avoid the curse. Can you imagine their children with mental illness or drug addiction problem.

[quote]Trying to ruin a man's reputation after he's dead serves no purpose for anyone other than the lowlife doing it.

You're sweet, but George Michael destroyed his own reputation just fine by himself.

George has not written a decent song since the "Jesus To A Child" from "Older". Yes, I do believe he had a death wish for almost 20 of the last years of his life, but it had nothing to do with his HIV status, or anything else, except for the fact that he could not create good music anymore. "Patience" is a mere shadow of his composing abilities. Yet, he could have ripped his former achievements with the alternative versions as he did with the wonderful "Symphonic" album and tour. But I don't think he could accept it.

I love the "Symphonica" CD. On Saturdays I like to listen to some of George's music then Billie Holliday and Bill Evans. One day at my business I had Evans playing when a customer said he was transported to another place and time. George was in that caliber to me. We just don't have artists who can write and sing great ballads anymore, or at least there are very few who can. It's almost as though George was being driven in some unconscious way to destroy his talent, but it couldn't be done in my view. He may have been unable to write for periods but that didn't stop him from doing wonderful work interpreting other people's songs. I don't know but sort of a thing where he couldn't destroy his gift so he destroyed the man instead.

Serves GM for dating a pornstar. He's lucky he's gay because the media is afraid to report extreme gay shenanigans. CNN is happy to tell you about Charlie Sheen and Trump's Stormy Daniels but thinks telling us about Fadi is homophobic. Go figure.

I wish fadi could fondness gainful employment and just settle down. His ho days are behind him he needs to earn a living.

He should just sit down and write a screenplay. He must have a half literate friend somewhere who could help.

R160. CNN has no interest in reporting about him. He hasn't been relevant here for more than 20 years. If you are referring to the British media then it will make more sense.

It's a shame that in the states George is not considered newsworthy, yet so many with next to zero talent are on our news all the time. I don't think Fadi merits any coverage, but's it's really as though George is pretty much forgotten anymore. I don't believe people think of him that much over all. Strange because I think he was as talented as Freddie Mercury. Freddie is in US news a lot ever since the movie.

The last time he was discussed here in the states was during the autopsy reporting. That was in middle of 2017. The major news network covered it and they moved on. Even his freedom documentary that came out later did not get that much press. Unless you consider it been viewed on Showtime real buzz. It did not even get nominated for an emmy. He did not have a major hit since the early 90s here in the states. So that is 20 something years of lack of real buzz.

I remember the contrast in how much Prince's death was covered compared to George. I didn't think it would ever end with Prince as it dragged on for weeks. I don't get "Showtime" but wondered if it was true what I read that George made the statement his life had been a waste. It was also something to the effect he thought it was too late for people to think he had any integrity. Did he actually say that in the film?

R166. I remember saying that if you are not that aware of his career as much you won't even know he died. This was in early 2017. American media had already moved on after a few days of covering his death. I guess they could not escape not mentioning him. Then they mentioned his autopsy and that was it. Now T-Mobile commercial plays his freedom song. So I guess his work gets some t mobile love. I guess he will disappointed that is work is reduced to a cellphone company commercial.

Over time hopefully more people will come to appreciate George's later work as well as the best of his early catalog. I would defy anyone to listen to his interpretation of "I'll Remember You" or "You've Changed" and not be moved by it. All the wretched excess with drugs, drink, prostitutes and porn stars yet when it came to his work he brought the best of himself. I'll be most grateful to him for that. Instead of bringing music down to vulgar trash that there is so much of today he elevated it up. Years ago Bobby Darin's music started coming out of the vault. He didn't live long and was dead age 37, but he made the most of his years while he was alive. In my view he has Sinatra beat hand's down, but you have to get past "Splish Splash" to realize it. Anyone who wants a treat can go to Youtube and listen to Darin's interpretation of "Easy Living," "What a Difference A Day Makes," and "When Day is Done." I would have loved to hear George cover those three songs.

Remember when he threw himself out of a car on a highway... and survived? That's some crazy shit.

Yeah, I could never understand that car incident and how anyone could survive that. I think it was going at a pretty good speed when it happened.

[quote]Trying to ruin a man's reputation after he's dead serves no purpose for anyone other than the lowlife doing it.

Reputation? George Michael was always a bad boy.

He got nothing in the will and now will talk. Book to follow soon.

I really hope Fadi can get over this and go on with life. He seems like a trashy whore but it’s really sad.

R173 He would have to get clean off of all the drugs. Then I think he'd actually wake up to a new day, gain some self-awareness, and stop trashing George, himself and everything in sight. He would then need massive amounts of therapy because the reality he has been trying to blot out (that he's a trashy whore with a dead famous sugar daddy) will come into vivid relief. It's a sucky reality. But he could then actually figure out what his options are moving forward in integrity. People might even forgive FF all his previous antics, if he were to turn his life around.

The world already forgot George Michael. A good scandal would do wonders for his catalogue. And I'm not just being snarky. The fact is everyone benefits from Fadi going nuclear. He should write a book and option it for a show.

I don't want a scandal to get Geroge's popularity to rise again. Everyone knew how he lived and pretty much didn't care. I would like to know why the man destroyed himself and that takes some psychology. I'm going to work on him myself even though I've got no training or degree in this area.

[quote]The world already forgot George Michael. A good scandal would do wonders for his catalogue.

Not quite, Academy Award winning screenwriter Emma Thompson says she based the whole movie on GM's classic Xmas song. They didn't just name the movie after the song.

New George Michael song is apparently going to be released tomorrow. It's called "This is How (We want you to get high). Be interesting to hear this one.

Emma Thompson said she met with George about the movie and "he was delighted". Doubtful. Her story is vague "he was lovely" and George was in no condition to meet with anyone. Even if he was in tip top shape it would take more than a quickie meeting to allow this sludge, and to use all his songs at that. PR BS. This movie was concocted after he died.

R179. Most of us know it is all bullshit. He was in no condition to meet anyone and even the black music producer that remixed one of his songs stated he never met him. All they did was talk on the phone.

James Jackman (co-writer & co-producer) said in an interview prior to tomorrow's song release that George's drug issues were but " a blip" in his life. This is some revisionist history as at the point one is falling/throwing themselves out of cars and crashing into store fronts you're drug problems are more than a so-called "blip." I don't blame people for wishing to put a better face on all the drugs, but at the same time it does a disservice to act as though George barely touched the stuff.

R181. Everyone around him was an enabler. From his childhood friend to this music producer. If he meant been a chronic drug addict is a blip then it says a lot about how prevalent drugs are in the music industry.

Jackson comments are either reflective of how prevalent drugs are within the music industry, or else it's a case of severe denial over how bad George's drug use really was. People seem to want to paint a picture of George being in great shape prior to his death. I don't know how that could possibly be.

R183. especially when we have seen pictures of him in 2016 and he was far from trimmed and fit. His team must think the public is stupid or shall I state his fans. When there are few pictures of him looking really fat even on Google then his team need to cut the lying crap. We have seen him and he looked like a guy who looks awfully similar to George with extra heavy weight. There is nothing bad in admitting he was not in the best of health at all.

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^ sure Jan

I'm HIV+ and I loved getting fisted in 2003 but got bored with it and gave it up. But I don't see what the big deal is. Are you people that fragile that you seriously think this is shocking? Grow the fuck up.

R187. You are a whore darling.

r188 Absolutely true. And proud of it.

R189. A shameless bottom whore will always be proud of his sluttiness. Why did you get tired of giving up your bussy, let me guess you no longer wanted to be a cumwhore.

r190 Lol. No. I actually stopped shooting up meth.

R174 [quote]But he could then actually figure out what his options are moving forward in integrity. People might even forgive FF all his previous antics, if he were to turn his life around.

NO. No one would forgive this piece of shit. You are deluded.

The whole drug denial pisses me off. I understand they don't want the public to have a bad impression of George and also the theory that nothing matters more than his talent and back catalogue. But for f*ucks sake, why can't they use George's decline as a warning to others. It should not be brushed under the carpet or pussey-footed around. I was actually surprised team George used the word 'Addict' on the Freedom marketing.

R187 Who said we had a problem with the HIV+ and fisting revelation? I think the outcry is more to do with the fact Fatti Fawaz should never have detailed and revealed these very personal things about his deceased love? It's out of order period!

George’s new song.

Why is out of order to speak about things you witnessed and lived through? If it crossed his path then it's part of his story too.

You know it is bad when shady Fad I is the only one not sugarcoating his addictions. Maybe a few of his other whores. Besides the estate need the lovelies to fork over their cash for whatever mediocre unfinished songs released in the future.

So Fawaz is "not sugarcoating (George's) addictions", huh? Gee, what a solid citizen he turned out to be. He's really trying to help George, isn't he.

And here was I thinking he was a desperate whore trying to blackmail George's family into paying him some hush money to shut the fuck up - and stop making shit up (because you can't defame the dead, and all that).

[quote]He's really trying to help George, isn't he.

Psssst George is dead. No help required.

R197. He was the only one that was associated with him who kept it real.

Just heard "This is How" over on Youtube. I really like the song. The only downside is it's a bitter pill in reminding the talent that was lost and what more he could have done had he not died. Someone posted earlier that the people surrounding George were enablers. I think it's true. It's why I didn't get the negative response to Elton's statements. Elton at least tried an intervention, but he is right you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. I also agree with the poster who said George should be used as a caution to others. Pretending he didn't have a drug problem helps no one else. There is also something called Persistent Complex Grief Disorder. I believe George also suffered from that after Anselmo and his mother's deaths. I read a post on another site where someone said they found George's music depressing. I don't consider his songs about loss to be that at all. I think they're beautiful and are there for anyone who is also suffering that type of pain to use as a comfort.

Seems to me, that George was the asshole. He left his lover nothing.

The family really ought to give Fadi something. He deserves to be taken care of. I agree with r201. It was mean of George to leave him nothing.

George did the same thing as Freddie Mercury when it came to his money. Freddie left most of his fortune to Mary Austin in which many of his male companions were not happy about. George left his sisters his money . In both cases the women in these men's lives got the money.

Not quite the same thing with Freddie Mercury.

He left his last partner Jim Hutton £500,000 in 1991 (worth about $1.3 million now). Jim lived on that until his death in Ireland in 2010.

It's been speculated that he didn't provide better financially for Jim because he was also HIV+ (diagnosed in 1990) and he wasn't expected to live very long when AIDS eventually took hold.

A bit different to the George Michael and Fadi situation.

I agree there are some differences between Freddie & George. Everything I've read about Jim was that he felt short changed in not getting more even though a million isn't peanuts by a long shot. It was just short by a lot compared to the multiple millions Mary got. Plus, Mary also got Garden Lodge and is still getting money to this day. Mary's argument was always the men in Freddie's life got a lot while he was alive and very generous towards them.

We don't know how much George may have given Fadi over the years they were together. It could have been a substantial amount, but I don't expect we'll ever know the truth.

If Jim had succumbed to the AIDS virus (as was expected at the time) within a couple of years it would have seemed very generous.

If Freddie had left the house and further millions to Jim the estate would have also further depleted by 40% inheritance tax upon his expected death.

R201 I couldn't agree more. Fadi may not have been the love of his life but four years is a long time especially if GM was depressed + drugged out. Can you imagine the amount of ass wiping Fadi had to do for him? And I mean literal asswiping. I would be mad too.

George Michael or his family do not owe Fadi a penny. Hypothetically let’s just say Fadi knew George was HIV+, therefore, Fadi would have realized George’s health was more than likely in a fragile state. Especially knowing the type of drugs George was partaking in. Fadi had plenty of time to make sure George had taken the necessary steps to provide for him. George provided a roof over his head, gave him a vehicle (which FF sold ... not too bright!) more than likely paid for FF’s travel, accommodations and meals whenever they traveled. Regardless of what people may think of George’s personal life which is really no one’s business he apparently was savvy enough to handle his financial affairs in a successful manner. There was a time in George’s career when he was in charged and called all the shots. The more his life spiraled out of control I believe he was lucky he was able to keep his head above water. Had he wanted to provide for Fadi’s future or even marry him legally he would have done so. George and his family obviously knew where Fadi stood on the totem pole. Fadi lived the good life longer than he should have or deserved too. Had Fadi been a smooth operator he would have dealt with George’s passing completely differently. George’s sister’s gave Fadi enough rope that he hung himself. Once a wanna be porn star low life what more could anyone expect of Fadi. George was extremely gifted, had an amazing voice and career. He had the potential to be so much more but it wasn’t meant to be. He left his fans a catalog of songs and some wonderful covers. Hopefully at some point people will remember George for his music and philanthropy ways. People feel he should have been worth more than he was. People tend to forget how much money George gave away to his favorite charities and causes. He was on self destruct but he had a heart of gold.

George Michael gave to Charity to appease his conscience for being such a fleabag. Reminds me of Angelina Jolie. Treat the people in your life right first and then go chasing the golden halo.

It's GM's own fault for not taking better care of FF in his will. If the long term boyfriend had been provided for properly, he wouldn't have to live off these revelations.

R210. I agree. At the very least, the sisters should have handed him a bag of money and an NDA immediately after the funeral. I'll never understand how clueless people can be about basic human nature.

When did George last amend the will?

I'm with #208. I don't see why Fadi should get a bunch of money just because he was the main f*** buddy for several years. Did he not work in all that time to make his own money? This is the problem with screwing multitudes of people. Sex means nothing to anyone involved which is what George's will reflects.

Didn't Freddie Mercury stipulate that Jim Hutton could live in their house until he died? Mary kicked him out barely a year later, despite Jim's grief and declining health.

The love of Freddie's life? Pfft! Cold-hearted bitch.

Nothing was in writing concerning Jim living in the house after Freddie's death. I have wondered if Freddie had not been dying how long he and Jim would have stayed together. I like Jim as he seems to have been considered a nice person. I believe he did love Freddie, but I don't know how much Freddie loved him considering he did cheat while they were together. It's a mess with Freddie because he was someone who said he didn't care about AIDS and was going to do everything with everybody even after the public was being informed about HIV. There is no way to put a happy face on that one. Freddie was infected early on in the epidemic. He had to have given the virus to many other people and at the time just didn't care.

[Quote]I couldn't agree more. Fadi may not have been the love of his life but four years is a long time especially if GM was depressed + drugged out.

So all your important ex-partners are in your will and you are ready to provide for them till they die?

No?

You know, just because one partner is more wealthy than the other does not mean that he is obligated to leave his partner anything or provide for him financially till his death. Fadi is still a healthy young man who can work. The sisters already let him live for free in George's house for years and he still did not move on or tried to find a job.

[quote]r216 Fadi is still a healthy young man who can work.

But can he ... with the fractured wrists from fisting GM for years?

Is that how George got his back pain. I mean really got it not the bs he told the public. He must have been a legendary fist receiver.

In what world do you leave money in a will to someone you broke up with? In a divorce? In a civil union? Long term relationship? Living together? You don't. It's f**king ridiculous. He gave him everything while he was living and wanted him out of his life. Are you leaving money to every fuck/love relationship that you've had?

R219 Totally agree you. What the hell is behind this thought process of him being due a hefty amount left in a will? I wrote a long rant this morning and pressed back button and lost it arghhhh! The crux of it was FF was in a 'paid position,' FF said in a rant he'd stopped sharing a bed with G years ago. I heard he was offered or given money but it wasn't enough. I also heard G was trying to get rid of him for a LONG time. NOBODY liked FF...not friends, not family or employees. FF has cut just about all of his own family and friends off. FF is sitting on his fat arse doing fack all but drugs and writing vile things on social media. Forget being owed money, HE is fackin lucky his sorry arse isn't being sued!

And while I am at it, shouldn't Escorts keep their mouths shut? He will never work again. How could he work in a exclusive salon, how could he escort? Isn't saying George was HIV+ saying a lot about himself also. A book? We don't need one, he's spilled the most sorded details all over social media.

I just feel sad that an intelligent man, like George was such a bad judge of character, was broken and naive enough to surroud himself with idiots and puppets but most of all drugs. He just needed to be honest (I don't think he was ever THAT with himself) and pay for an incredibly fabulous physchologist to take his hand to walk him through life and deal with his demons. He's not the only gay, he's not the only child to have witnessed or been through emotional, physical or sexual abuse. He's not the only one to come from a dysfunctional family. But what he was is naive, delussional, and sensitive and that is what made him the man we all love and the musical and lyrical genius he was.

One thing is for sure, he made music that will stand the test of time, like he wished.

^Too old and out of shape to escort anyway.

George Michael was a millionaire. If he truly wanted to get rid of this guy, it would have been as easy as telling his security just once. It sounds like a run of the mill turbulent relationship with a star in which he kind of shat on his poorer boyfriend when he got in a mood.

Whatever, all of that is irrelevant to the question as to whether it was prudent to give him nothing. The sisters should have moved fast to buy that NDA off him. The consequences of that failure are as you see today.

Can people stop talking like living rent free in Mayfair means shit if you can't even afford toilet cleaner. He's refused to leave because it's one of his two levers and they only let him stay to avoid the news headlines. As I gather he can't leave the apartment for fear they will immediately take ground by changing the locks. That means he is isolated and growing increasingly mad. It's just a matter of time before he kills himself. And while some would love that, his suicide would make this a mainstream story and tarnish George Michaels name far more than calling George a hedonist.

^What? I thought they already changed the locks after he was arrested for trashing the place. Someone paid for his hotel room a couple of weeks after that. Is he occupying a different residence now? I thought he was homeless and on his own now.

The Sun said that the sisters gave Fadi $250,000 in 2018. I don't know if it's true or not, but Fadi didn't deny it. What has yet to come out is who supplied drugs to GM, which may or may not have been Fadi. It could've been everyone in his inner circle or someone we don't know about. I do understand when you have that much money, you pretty much can get anything you want.

I'm a huge GM fan and I really don't care about all of these side shows, GM was his own worst enemy, but DAMN, he had talent.

FF is not in RP. He's at the Travel Lodge in Covent Garden.

Talking of drug suppliers, that Paul Stag has a lot to answer for in my books. He disgusts me visually and from what he told The Sun, how there was no repercussions of that is beyond me. At least the other guys George slept with had looks, well the ones we know of.

Men who date sex workers are usually looking for partners they can treat like garbage. Someone to use and dispose easily. It's incorrigible to maintain such an arrangement for four years. Whores have feelings too.

You can buy silence. They didn't.

Yes true and George said you pay escorts to leave. What a way to live. I mean, I am sure it's great from time to time but to have this and no connection, no love with the person you shag is very sad, surely even in the gay world.

Don't all humans want to love and be loved? Bet he never thought he was worthy. He always had an insatiable sexual appetite which takes me back to the escapism once again and I would argue there is a huge possibility drugs wasn't the only addiction he had.

Had George been able to accept his sexuality from day one his life may have been different. He went from a fat boy, curly and unruly hair and thick glasses to a very attractive and appealing man. Everything came to easy and quickly for him once he got started. He never came up for air. He had a chip on his shoulder from his father, he had to hide the fact that he was attracted to men and was humiliated because of the catchy songs he wrote. He wanted to be taken seriously and he didn’t trust people (Andros was a perfect example). His image as a sexy single male was enhanced when he went solo. There were as many young girls as well as boys that wanted in his pants. Plus he was never satisfied. Going after Sony certainly didn’t help his fast tracked career it stopped it almost completely. Maybe if he had been Yog instead of Andrew from the beginning he would have found some peace and happiness. He paid a high price for his fame and fortune. So do most talented people. Whitney, MJ and Prince are perfect examples. Madonna was able to hold on to her sanity more than the others. His music is in movies and T-Mobile at the moment. FF needs to disappear completely and just maybe George Michael will get the recognition he so derserves for his music and his voice. His past should become just that his past. Listen to the words in Freedom 90. That song speaks volumes (especially to young gay men).

Probably the most poignant lyrics he ever wrote.

Hope Last Christmas does well and gets more people interested in George's back catalog.

R215 I’d rephrase that from cheating. There’s no evidence to suggest Jim was t fully aware Freddie got plenty of action on the road. Look, for those who didn’t play the home edition- very few couples were monogamous until HIV.

Freddie was picking up multiple guys at bars after his shows in the early 80s. He may have known or suspected he was it risk. We can’t take that and twist it into “intentional infection”. We don’t know now either become poz, but don’t jump to the conclusion it was cheating. They could well hav been infected before they met.

As it turns out Jim appears to have been a 'Long-Term Nonprogressor' , if he hadn't been he'd have become symptomatic in the 1990's and died before the effective HIV cocktails came about.

Jim Hutton didn't die of an AIDS related illness in the end anyhow, It was lung cancer.

I don't think Freddie intentionally infected anyone. That would have been just horrendous behavior on anyone's part to purposely try and give HIV to someone else. Freddie was just selfish and in my view suffered true sex addiction. While HIV was spreading like wildfire Freddie didn't think it could happen to him and kept up the partying. He had to have known later on he was at high risk, but Jim stated the two of them continued to throw caution to the wind and didn't use condoms until Freddie was obviously ill. This level of denial is hard to fathom all these decades later.

I stumbled into something interesting a few years ago concerning both Freddie and Rudolph Nureyev. Both men were promiscuous in the extreme. Both men would not have been satisfied being mere superstars. These two were determined to become legends and nothing short of that was acceptable. The personal assistants of both men wrote books. Nureyev's assistant noted that all his emotion went into his art and the performance. Everything else in the psyche was just a means to an end which is what the promiscuity made easier to do. I can quote Peter word for word when he wrote "while Freddie was having sex he wasn't wasting any of the precious emotion that otherwise went into his work."

The low hanging fruit will always be the obvious that it's just fun to have sex. If you've got people essentially standing in a line to get in a hook up with you what's not to like on the face of it. However, there is more to the human psyche than just sex and once you start examining a person's life the deeper levels of motivation within the person will eventually come to light.

R231 oh stop it with the cult koolaid. George Michael was never at MJ, Whitney Prince or Madonna levels. The audacity to even insert his name into that pantheon. Jesus! George Michael was more in the Sting level. Maybe he was a mega superstar in the UK but I assure you he could have lived mostly unrecognised in most parts of the world.

R231. His song is only in one movie. Calm down with the exaggeration. He was on the same level as those musician if this was 1988.

R237 George was pre Madonna. Ha, I kille me. PRE MADONNA.

I'm so glad Heal The Pain and Move On are on the Last Chridtmas soundtrack. Is anyone going to the movie this weekend?

Fadi is so simple. And now fucked. Any gigolo always gets a steady regular income in case and ferrets it away. If there is a big windfall from death or whatever, it's only the bonus.

[quote]r231 FF needs to disappear completely and just maybe George Michael will get the recognition he so derserves for his music and his voice. His past should become just that his past.

Other peoples lives, experiences, and opinions (like FF's) do not "disappear" just because they reflect uncomfortably on a celeb. FF is free to talk about his own life, experiences, and opinions.

It really doesn't matter, anyway, because George Michael is dead and can't be embarrassed by anything.

Looks like this thread has run its course. I'll just always be grateful for the wonderful music George left behind. I'll enjoy it for the rest of my life. Nothing anyone says about him will change what he did in his work. I wish something could have brought him out of the abyss. There was so much more he could have done. Fifty-three is too young to die.

Fadi is still at it.

Imagine you take a sex worker, give her the pretty woman treatment, keep her as your principle caretaker and gf for four years and then die leaving her to return to the streets. Fuck that. Justice for Fadi

Fadi sleeping in the car just tells me George was an abusive temperamental pop star. If you need to end the relationship, you give him a few months rent and have your security change the codes. Fadi should tame his emotions and get a producer on the line. Make this movie ASAP

She has a shitty rhetorical style.

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R246. Fadi has changed his story so many times about where he was when George died. He later stated that he was in the first floor and George slept upstairs in his room. He went to check in on him and found him dead because George used to come down stairs after they had a fight but he never did.

Like we all know what went on. How about George tried to get rid of Fatty Fawaz many times and couldn't? We have seen how emotionally immature FF is and we know how ill George was, maybe G was too tired, too scared to fight him or worst still, was being blackmailed, Fatty has obviously seen A LOT. I wouldn't doubt for one minute that what ever their relationship was, it was highly toxic and Fatty had George over a barrel.

Firstly, Getting rid of Fadi would have taken just ONE call to his team. One single call and he'd never see him again.

"Janet, book me a trip to the States. While I'm gone erase every existence of Fadi from my life. Evict him by court order if necessary. Get a protection order and within reason get an NDA from him. If he refuses to sign, plant stories about how he stole from me or drugged me. Be sure to get the fan sites good and riled up. Have a great winter. See you in a few months.

[R251] nails it. But from what we have gleaned, George wasn't thinking at all. It seems he was awash in so much self-induced miasma.

R251 But he wasn't in the right place physically or mentally so how could he do that? He was riddled with anxiety, barely left his home yet alone well enough to jump on a plane. Under ordinary circumstances yes you are right. I dread to think what kind of footage Fatty could have of George, orgies, drugs, stupor. George was always trying to protect his family, imagine the guilt, shame and worry he could have been going through.

R253 Did you miss the part where I said this is ONE instruction away??? George Michael wouldn't be lifting a finger. This isn't a depressed battered woman with three kids trying to escape. It's a millionaire with staff who exist to deal with this stuff. Any half competent manager or PA would on hearing the words "erase Fadi from my life" convene the security team, the lawyers and the PR manager. Its that easy for a millionaire pop star to dump your ass.

The fact that George kept him speaks to actually wanting him there. What I see here is a turbulent millionaire taking out his bad days on his boyfriend. Typically self entitled bs.

And also please let's not act like George cared about conforming to straight sexual norms. This man made a music video about cottaging in the 90s. He scolded the media for not understanding that there's a different sexual culture outside of hetero suburbia. He openly dated a male pornstar. He talked about a former partner having AIDS. George was the least blackmailable person in entertainment. He didn't give a shit!

Are we sure he still had a "staff"? He hadnt really been working for years so why would he need a security team or PA when he hardly ever left his house?

R254 and did you miss the part where I said MENTALLY? Are you for real? If life was that simple Fatty would have been chucked out of RP years ago. It appears even after George passed, the estate were treading on egg shells when it came to Fattty Fawaz.

George’s sister had an article in one of the newspapers recently stating her brother was comfortable in his skin including being a gay man regardless what you may read or hear elsewhere. At this point in time there isn’t anything anyone could possibly say concerning George’s personal or professional life that would shock his family or his fans. George was his own worst enemy and by all accounts he seemed to know it. Regardless it doesn’t take anything away from George’s talent. It seems that the most gifted individuals are on self destruct. Not so sure all the money and fame in the world are worth selling your soul.

Where does Fadi live right now and does he have a job? I guess spreading lies or gossip on social media doesn't pay his bills.

R257 You are saying to me that George was so mentally incapacitated he was unable to ring a staffer, hell even his sisters and scream "get rid of Fadi. Spare no expense"? That's not depression, that's what the old law books used to call an "imbecile". You need to just come to grips with the fact that George wanted Fadi there. He was hot and cold with him as many wealthy entitled people can be, but ultimately he was making a daily choice to keep Fadi. As I keep reminding you, George Michael would only need about 10 seconds to not only get rid of Fadi but ensure that he was permanently tainted in the media.

....and basically only the effort it takes to push one out when your constipated. Because remember, rich people can and do delegate this stuff. George isn't literally tossing the guy out himself.

George still very much cared about what the public and even his contemporaries thought of him and didn't want everyone to know about the heroin, the suicide attempts, or the HIV status. Fadi surely knew and was ready to spill. GM very well might have od'd or killed himself just to escape his private hell. Fadi was a mistake that George felt helpless against.

Stop it. George didn't give a flying fuck about being associated with vice. NONE. WHATSOEVER. So much so there is no sane being who would be surprised if there's footage of George on a leather swing huffing while three men take turns fisting him. The only people who would be stunned are his insane frau fans who still imagine that gay men are really just asexual shopping buddies. God I hate you fruitflies. Frankly I would be shocked if George Michael had never done meth during sex. It takes a meth head to go rimming strangees in a park after already being busted once. Thats for sure.

George was a walking contradiction. He said after his mum died he became terrified of death, yet the way he lived ensured he put himself in an early grave. It's a mystery to me how someone who lived such a horrible personal life (in my opinion) could be the same person writing such beautiful songs. All I can say is you see this pattern over and over in artists whether they're painters, literary writers, poets or musicians. It's as though great talent can only come at the expense of other things needed to live a sane and reasonable life. It's a real shame.

R262 and r263. You raised a good question about his lovelies thinking George was this kind of innocent man. They still have this 80s pin up image of him singing those popular cheesey songs and because he sang love songs he must be pure. they can't fartone why his live wasn't so perfect. He had money and fame why so miserable. R262 I won't be surprised either if there is a footage of him drugged out during sex. His asexual female fraus will almost have an heart attack.

How old is the HIV+ news? I thought that was known fact for a while. As far as sexual proclivities, we know George loved sex. Big deal.

I just looked at Fadi Fawaz's Twitter feed. Pretty sad.

Oh well. He has to live with himself. But, he can't bring down George. Nice try!

R266. I could tell you are a gay man not one of the lovelies. Most of them will never state such a comment.

[quote] Fadi was a mistake that George felt helpless against.

You're really talking out of your ass. We have no idea what their relationship was like or if George thought their relationship was a mistake or was helpless.

R268. It must not have been sunshine when your partner dies during the relationship.

If these stories of multiple suicide attempts are true (especially the ones that George tried to stab himself) what does that tell you about how miserable George was? The man needed some kind of professional help. I continue to have no issue with Elton's recent statements. He is right that you can't help someone who doesn't want it. I just don't know why George took the path he did. He could have saved himself prolonged misery if he'd just put a gun to his head and ended it without the fanfare of slow decline into protracted suicide.

As if he's telling us something we didn't already know

R263 makes a good case. By the time somebody smokes weed 25 times a day, decision-making ability is totally gone.

There is footage of George smoking a joint during an interview that I saw some time ago. He was saying it's the dope that kept him sane and happy. He didn't look very happy to me, however.

What's a man's problem when he needs to wear a mask to get fucked? I'm proud that I can keep an erection and can cum hands-free from just getting fucked.

Thanks for that, [R274], my brother in law's whole bachelor party talked about it for weeks. ;`]

These women are insane. Why would THE George Michael feel helpless on Fadi? Did he forget how to dial 999? The reality is if there's an abuser here it was probably George Michael. He had a massive power imbalance on Fadi which is of course why he was in a relationship with a sex worker. It's called the Charlie Sheen Doctrine.

I wondered about the mask as well. It made me think of Jacko and how he butchered his face over the years. Even before all the child molestation charges it seemed like Jackson was using his face as a bizarre hiding and revealing of how he felt about himself. As the years kept passing he just continued to make his face more and more grotesque. I'm not suggesting at all that George was anything like Jackson just that the mask made me think he somehow subconsciously needed to hide himself in some way while having sex.

R269 Are all of you on a bad batch of birth control that's made you this dumb? George was depressed. Depressed people are assholes to the people closest to them. Your partner is not responsible for your depression. George was never a stable grounded being anyway. And depression is very common for people of similar industry and social status. His risk was further compounded by his drug. Fadi had nothing to do with this. He was an unhappy man long before Fadi.

R237, GM was a mega star circa Faith album. That is an undeniable fact. He most certainly was in the same 'pantheon' as Prince, Madonna, Whitney, and Michael Jackson. In fact, he and Jackson were going to do a project together. He did work with whitney and Aretha. Those caliber stars don't consider working with someone who isn't at their level.

The mask is just part of his kink around anon sex. It probably also had a blindfold built in. We keep being told not kink shame women by questioning why they want what they want. Why shouldn't George get that privilege? Why should strangers pschoanalyse him from their couches after he has lost his opportunity to explain?

R275, was that a compliment or a shot? I won't mind either way.

-274

I don't want to shame George about anything including the mask, but he did die before his time due to his lifestyle choices. He seemed (in my opinion) to have used sex as a way to further himself down the path of self destruction. Sex & drugs seemed inseparable in his mind which is hardly a healthy way to view sex. Once again my opinion only, but you see this in many people who self destruct. They use sex & drugs together and both things just keep moving them on to the ultimate end. I don't consider it disrespectful or harmful to try and figure out someone who has passed away by their own doing. All people are different so it's just interesting trying to figure out why one person does one thing then someone else goes the opposite way. Eric Clapton comes to mind right now. He got clean and sober for his son then it was that tragedy of his death at only age five. Clapton could have easily sunk back into drugs & drink but didn't. He said he wanted to honor his son's memory in a better way. It's too bad George couldn't do that after his mom passed. What mother would want to see her son arrested for lewd conduct then drugs and jail for crashing cars into stores. It didn't seem to occur to George that he wasn't honoring his mother's memory very much by his actions. This is no judgement on him just an observation that he couldn't seem to ever get himself together after a certain point.

George hated himself and tried for his entire life not to let people know who he was and the shit he was into. Fadi was going to give it up. GM didn't want to be here to see it because he knew he couldn't stop it. And he was right.

I agree George was full of self hatred. I don't know how much he could have feared Fadi spilling the beans on his private life. Seems George was good at doing that all on his own. It would have just been specifics of whatever went on during orgies or things like that. The sex toys, gimp mask and porn found in his car during the one arrest pretty much tells you what all he was into.

News broke on my local news media that Fadi got a settlement with the family.

Do you guys know more?