Colin Firth and Stanley Tucci's love story “Supernova”

A love story for eldergays!😍

It'll never get released, because some dumb Twitter cunt will complain that two straight men are playing gay.

I just became pregnant seeing this post

Colin could still get it.

Hope there is anal. Do people have anal in the Lake District?

R2 the only reason this movie got made is because two straight men are playing gay.

If it were two out gay actors it wouldn't have even gotten funding.

That's reason enough to piss me off.

MARY!

Brokehip Mountain!

yeah I ain't paying any money to watch straight men play a gay love story

I'm sure they're already lensing the porn version with Adam Russo and Dallas Steele in Palm Springs.

Stanley Tucci’s portrayal of a sexless gay man in Devil Wears Prada was so awful and over-the-top, I’d hate to see his portrayal of a gay man who actually has sex.

Colin is no stranger to surprise anal!

^ Oh shut it, Bennett!

Trailer.

Cuties

The reviews are out.

Hope there is anal. Do people have anal in the Lake District?

Ask Madden and Froy @ Langmead's place.

[quote]That's reason enough to piss me off.

At least the story is being told.

Can you think of two out gay actors with the clout and box office draw of these two?

This reminds me of when Miriam Margolyes was a guest on The Graham Norton Show. She expressed her discomfort at playing gay characters. She tried to sell the idea of straight actors doing such roles better and guess who agreed with her? Stanley Tucci.

I'm glad that Graham Norton's facial expression showed he was not co-signing such nonsense.

Jesus, I’m already crying 😢

Oscar bait material.

[Quote] At least the story is being told.

It's 2020. Shut the fuck up

[Quote] Can you think of two out gay actors with the clout and box office draw of these two?

This movie won't do numbers. It will at best benefit the "brave" straights come award time.

Would a Colin Firth end up with a Stanley Tucci??

[Quote] Can you think of two out gay actors with the clout and box office draw of these two?

Stanley Tucci is a character actor. He has never had box office draw. And I can't think of too many Colin Firth vehicles, certainly not box office successes. Even "A Single Man" was sold more on Tom Ford's name.

They could have made it with Rupert Everett (Firth was Everett's successor in the play of "Another Country") and Denis O'Hare.

[Quote] Would a Colin Firth end up with a Stanley Tucci??

Didn't Colin Firth end up a cuckold?

Lee Pace and Richard Armitage could have brought the project some buzz, especially if they acknowledge that they had once been a couple.

I'm glad it's getting good reviews. I wish we had the movies back. Would love to see it. Who did you want for the parts -Stephen Fry and Nathan Lane?

The younger generation has some film actors to consider but I can't think of many eldergays that aren't tv actors and mostly from the TV show Frasier that could open a picture like this.

Open a picture? Is this going to be on a shit ton of screens? I doubt it.

r26, Armitage isn't out. But his next roll is as a gay man, no.

Is it a jelly roll?

It's absolute bullshit that straight people shouldn't play gay roles. That will very possibly lead to people claiming that only straight people should play straight roles. And guess what then happens? Actors will most certainly not come out since they'd lose so many job opportunities.

There are obviously always people who demand that every gay person MUST come out for the cause. In a way social media is already acting like some kind of truth commission. Many of these people refuse to believe bisexuality is real, everything is black and white to them.

The world is getting crazier every minute, and some people acting like know-it-alls about gay rights are about to do some serious damage in their attempt to separate people by their sexuality, color etc into neat separate groups. We're going back decades in gay rights because of this idiotic separationist agenda.

It will disappear from screens around the globe as quickly as it's showing begins, sinking into film oblivion.

[quote] ... lensing ...

R10, let's be "Variety" in 1933!

The director is kinda cute.

[Quote] It's absolute bullshit that straight people shouldn't play gay roles. That will very possibly lead to people claiming that only straight people should play straight roles.

Oooh, very possibly!

Out actors are sidelined all the time. But let's continue to support "brave" straight actors in their vanity projects.

Rolling my eyes at the comments about "opening the picture" or "box office clout." This movie will $12.89, if that. It's purely a prestige, awards-bait kind of project, and the idea that Firth and the very tired Tucci will "sell it" is absurd.

In which case--why not cast openly gay actors?

[quote]Do people have anal in the Lake District?

I did Amal in Lake Como.

[quote]Lee Pace and Richard Armitage

Except, of course, the entire premise of the movie appears to be based on Tucci having a degenerative disease like Alzheimer's, so they'd be a bit young for it.

The producers could have hired one gay actor at least.

[quote]The producers could have hired one gay actor at least.

I'd rather two actors of Firth and Tucci's caliber than a gay marginal one.

But, just to play along, who might they have cast the would be comparable as an actor.

Is it not likely to you all that these two men may have jumped the fence a time or two or.... ?

[Quote] Is it not likely to you all that these two men may have jumped the fence a time or two or.... ?

And what? Are we supposed to pre-cum at the prospect?

[Quote] I'd rather two actors of Firth and Tucci's caliber than a gay marginal one.

Marginal how?

[Quote] But, just to play along, who might they have cast the would be comparable as an actor.

You may have made a point you didn't intend to make.

WHY WASN'T LAVERNE COX CAST AS ONE OF THE LEADS???????

Wait... on the DL, someone is conflating G with T?

[quote] Out actors are sidelined all the time. But let's continue to support "brave" straight actors in their vanity projects.

Oh please, you're fully aware how many actors are in the closet. Most actors seem to be bi, married to opposite sex or not. You want them to come out and only then should they be granted the right to play gay people. You're trying to dictate what kind of people are worthy, and I have a feeling you also have a list of undesirable traits gay people shouldn't have. I'm obviously projecting here since I know nothing about you but I've met gay men who try to follow the "rules of being gay" so slavishly they are constantly correcting others for doing things wrong.

It's not about granting someone the right. The closet writes gay people out of public life. Look at Hal Fucking Prince.

[Quote] I have a feeling you also have a list of undesirable traits gay people shouldn't have.

Perhaps you should examine why, to bolster your own sense of your "correct" opinion, you think of words unstated by me...

[quote] Rolling my eyes at the comments about "opening the picture" or "box office clout."

Thank you! I have to laugh reading the eldergays comments as if we're still living in the era of the studio system where big stars draw an audience. Those days are long behind us, and there's only a few actors today that can open a picture just by their name alone.

Some here are acting like Firth and Tucci have DiCaprio and Cruise type of clout. Laughable.

It's called acting. If you limit gay roles to just openly out actors then you have less talent to pull from.

Let's stop thinking like reality shows. Lose me in a character and I don't care what the actor's background is.

And why do you have less talent to pull from? It's not like the acting profession lacks gay talent.

What's the problem? Plenty of gay actors/actresses play straight roles.

The trailer made me want to see the movie because of the actors, who are talented actors. Both have played gay, so there is hardly a “brave” factor. I find a little mystifying The idea that only gay actors should play gay roles. It is acting, after all. Gay actors should have more opportunities, sure, including playing straight.

I sometimes wonder if people who vehemently demand gay roles to be played only by gay actors are just shit-stirring homophobes enjoying pitting us against each other. Divide and conquer.

I don't mind them casting straight actors in a movie like this, but I'm not going to watch it. Why would I watch straight guys fake being gay when I have access to real gay people, facing situations like this in real life?

But the producers don't care about me. The target audience for this movie is straight people. It sounds like a downer movie anyway.

A truly lovely (and well written) review in Variety.

It would a pleasure to watch them together

I still remember that old Gap tv commercial that someone posted here before - it was a young Tucci dancing down the street and he was ridiculously hot. I'd post it but I can't find it.

I found it in approximately 3 seconds

Ridiculously hot? With that struggle few hairs on the top of his head?

Rated NC-17, I hope

Never hot, always a great actor.

Too much sads

Elderly? Homosexual? Dementia?

An embarrassment of performance riches, saith Oscar© !!!!

Hey, shouldn't this movie be released in the second half of 2021?

Jerry Falwell Jr is in a movie?

I'm annoyed with straight actors always getting plumb gay roles:

[quote]"I met him, we got on famously," Macqueen said of Tucci. "He said, 'Can we talk about who plays opposite me? Have you thought about Colin Firth, because I could get the script to him?' Of course, I said, 'That would be amazing.' And he said, 'Good, because I gave it to him yesterday and he read it and loves it and he wants to meet you.' It was quite extraordinary quickly it came together in the end." And we know what you're asking, but why? "I thought your sensibility was right, and I thought I needed a great actor to do this with, and that’s you," Tucci told Firth in the feature. "Also, because you’re my friend, and we know each other so well, it seemed we could bring that to it; a history, that maybe two actors who didn’t know each other couldn’t bring." But it could have been interesting to see what two out, gay actors would have brought to it no?

Tucci believes a straight actor would be great in a gay role. Not because he's gay or knows what it's like to be gay or has a life filled with gay experiences, but because they've known each other for 20 years.

I more pissed off at straight writers and directors thinking they can tell our stories better than we can. The only reason any straight person does a film like this is for awards and accolades.

Tucci has made a CAREER out of playing gay. Him and Richard E. Grant are always so flaming I just assume they are closeted or heteroflexible.

[quote]I find a little mystifying The idea that only gay actors should play gay roles. It is acting, after all. Gay actors should have more opportunities, sure, including playing straight.

Gay actors should be treated as equals to straight actors. The problem is they are not. They don’t get the same opportunities to play straight OR gay.

It’s not as if the producers of this movie went around looking for two openly gay actors for these roles. I mean these are two big names but ... it’s not as if two openly gay actors around this age would have ever had the chance to get to their level.

Because Hollywood is always willing to cast straight people in gay roles because they know the straight public will go see them because they have big names and they’re not actually gay! And gay people will just be excited to have the representation so they will go and see them too!

Multiple things can be true at once: gay and straight actors should be able to play gay or straight and that Hollywood has a terrible history of treating gay actors as second class performers.

Let's face facts; films like this are not made for us, they're made for straight audiences. Romanticized and idealized versions of our lives made by straight people for straight people.

r54, you just exposed your stupidity. Would you say the same thing about White people playing black people?

I agree completely with r68. Part of the problem is that all the gay movies are written by breeders who do not know anything about being gay. Tucci just exposed himself as an asshole and a gaybaiter. He is an overrated actor, and he needs to have several seats and be shown the door with his equally-overrated homophobic/transphobic brother-in-law.

Then go ahead and start writing gay screenplays, you gays who are complaining about straight people cornering the market!

Stop whining and start solving the problem, if you believe that it’s a problem.

What next? Male and female writers for each screenplay, dividing up the dialogue between them on gender lines? Gay writers / directors / continuity/script editors barred from working on “straight” content?

[quote] Let's face facts; films like this are not made for us, they're made for straight audiences. Romanticized and idealized versions of our lives made by straight people for straight people.

Exactly, this appears to be frau bait. It might as well be on the Hallmark channel.

R60 - hahahahaha I knew some fool would post it right after I said that! I was just to lazy! But hey, thanks for your hard work - now fix me a sandwich bitch.

Two white cis gays? Cancel! Cancel! Cancel!

damn, if they had just gotten coogan and brydon to fuck the last time, this would be unnecessary

on their trip

So happy I like older men. This is my version of two 20 something hotties playing the leads. Oh, and they can both act...

stanley was hot....once

colin has a long history of going for dick

It doesn’t matter to me if straight actors play gay or vice versa. That’s what acting is about. It’s not a documentary. I’d wager that getting top names is more useful for the initial funding anyway.

My only problem with this is that Colin Firth is a horrible, horrible actor. He gives the exact same performance in every film he’s ever been in.

[quote]Part of the problem is that all the gay movies are written by breeders

There are literally dozens and maybe hundreds of gay movies written and directed by gay people. The problem is that most of them are total crap with a budget of $10. Gay films do not get the funding because they don't sell that well. Thankfully there are exceptions like Brokeback Mountain and Moonlight but overall gay matters don't really matter to the big masses. We should be glad that more or less straight stars want to play gay roles because those are the faces that sell the movie. Colin Firth has played a gay man in at least 4 films and I'm totally for it. I suspect he's one of those people who've made homosexuality more approachable to those who don't know much about it. He's handsome and extremely likeable. Why wouldn't we want an ambassador like that. I can tell you I'd much rather watch him be a gay man for 2 hours than out actors like Anthony Rapp.

It's idiotic to try to control who can make art and what that art should be like, and yet here we are.

Thanks R83 - just what I was trying to say above. Your final line captures it perfectly.

[quote]There are literally dozens and maybe hundreds of gay movies written and directed by gay people. The problem is that most of them are total crap with a budget of $10. Gay films do not get the funding because they don't sell that well. Thankfully there are exceptions like Brokeback Mountain

Stop right there. Not a film made by gay people. Writers Annie Proulx and Larry McMurtry, straight. Director Ang Lee, straight. All 4 acting leads, straight (at least publically).

I love BBM, but it's a piss-poor example of "gay people telling their own stories," which is what many of these posters are asking for. Some of you simply don't understand that concept.

Tusker (dread name!) may have early-onset Alzheimer's, but he has an impressively flat stomach.

[quote] Stop right there. Not a film made by gay people. Writers Annie Proulx and Larry McMurtry, straight. Director Ang Lee, straight. All 4 acting leads, straight (at least publically).

Read my post again. BBM is an example of a more or less straight-made film getting the funding unlike most films made by gay people. BBM is a gorgeous example of a high quality product made my true professionals. Keep in mind that people bitching about gay people not getting to make gay films would've stopped the film from being made, and yet the film single-handedly did more to advance gay rights than probably all other gay films together.

[quote]Him and Richard E. Grant are always so flaming

Oh, dear.

Colin was also gay in "Mamma Mia!"

I could understand the desire for gay actors to play these roles except the suggestions have been unwatchable people like Rupert Everett with his lack of acting skill and his beltsanded plastic surgery or the talentless Stephen Frye, whose current corpulence would make him cringeworthy.

exactly. the good gay actors are in the closet trying to go mainstream.

R83 you just gave me an idea. How about Anthony Rapp and Kevin Spacey for the leads in the American version. It will be entertaining and definitely right some wrongs! It can be Kevin's rentry to respectable filmmaking again, after that unfortunate #metoo situation. And give poor Anthony a bit of work, god knows she needs it.

[quote]There are literally dozens and maybe hundreds of gay movies written and directed by gay people. The problem is that most of them are total crap with a budget of $10. Gay films do not get the funding because they don't sell that well. Thankfully there are exceptions like Brokeback Mountain

"Moonlight" did very well and won the Oscar for best picture.

You have to pass a blood test to play any role that's not white, but it's all good that straight men play the gay roles.

I think it's fine that straight actors play gay roles. The problem is not enough openly-gay actors are given the opportunity to play straight. If there was a balance, I don't think anyone would give it a second thought.

[quote]He is an overrated actor, and he needs to have several seats and be shown the door with his equally-overrated homophobic/transphobic brother-in-law.

Pardon my ignorance, but do you mean John Krasinski?

[quote]the talentless Stephen Frye

Stephen Fry may be many things, but talentless he is not.

I don't find Stanley Tucci attractive at all. He always portrays smarmy or arrogant characters.

[Quote] in the American version.

Make your own films! Stop copying us and doing remakes!!

All this discussion about who should play what, who should be the director, who should be the writer, only gays can tell gay stories, is so tiresome, as if this movie is the only representation we will have this year.

Between Prime, Netflix, and Hulu, there are hundreds of gay titles that I will never get around to seeing; there is an overwhelming amount of gay content out there, so why make a big fuss about this one not checking all the woke boxes.

And I have to disagree about this movie being made for straights; from what i can tell, it looks like it's been made for a certain educated and discerning section of the gay male audience.

One reviewer said this could be the third part of a trilogy, beginning with God's Own Country, then Love is Strange, and now Supernova.

Perceptive and intriguing. I loved the first one, I can't remember if I saw the second, and I am looking forward to the third.

R72 You say this is a gay movie written by 'breeders who do not know anything about being gay'.

I noticed the young director at R34 and thought what does does this 30-something know about eldergays.

I've had a deep crush for Colin Firth ever since Apartment Zero. Did he sing himself in the Abba movies?

So Firth played gay in Apartment Zero, Mamma Mia!, Another Country, A Single man and this latest one. That five, one more than Alan Bates.

Men find him sexy, that's why r104

[Quote] dividing up the dialogue between them on gender lines?

Em...

People conflate straight actors playing gay characters with not providing enough roles and opportunities for out gay actors and they are not the same thing.

You can cast straight men to play gay characters AND still address the lack of diversity in casting, I really would not like to have a world where an actor can only play a version of themselves, that would completely stifle creativity and talent. Equally, there absolutely needs to be more opportunities for gay actors to play any type of character, including straight, and there needs to be more high profile film and television gay characters who are not just the funny best friend throwaway, but demonstrate all the different facets of life.

Stanley has that femmy top vibe I love. Is Colin the woman?

Taron better come get his Man.

I think they are both talented actors who play diverse roles. I would look forward to seeing this film.

R77/R78 the UST subtext was there and going strong by the series end.

And really, where else could a telly programme about a middle-aged male pair having table-for-two fine dining experiences across the South of France & Italy have realistically ended up?

Stephen Fry is witless and hammy.

quote] So Firth played gay in Apartment Zero, Mamma Mia!, Another Country, A Single man and this latest one. That five, one more than Alan Bates.

I think you also have to include "Mama Mia! Here We Go Again", the sequel for the count. Also, his credits on IMDB are so voluminous and unfamiliar to me, I can't be sure he hasn't played gay even more than that, unless some Colin fan knows for sure.

He's the straight go-to guy for the gay. Even Tom Ford uses him for that.

All the homo apologists here are most likely in the biz themselves and are part of the problem.

Most gay directors don't want to work with gay actors. Most gay writers don't want gay actors saying their lines. They seem to believe that having hets do their parts legitimizes their work.

Like that lesbian director who said she didn't make The Kids Are Alright for gay audiences. She wants straight praise and so do most gays involved in film making.

Fuck them all and fuck the house gays kneeling before great straight Hollywood scraping and bowing in hopes of getting their scraps.

[quote]the only reason this movie got made is because two straight men are playing gay. If it were two out gay actors it wouldn't have even gotten funding.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

[quote] Most gay directors don't want to work with gay actors. Most gay writers don't want gay actors saying their lines. They seem to believe that having hets do their parts legitimizes their work.

I work in development and what you say is a delusional fantasy of a frau living at some flyover state. You're also 20 years late in your assumptions of how the business works.

If you're a gay guy you're beyond stupid and clueless too.

[quote] Let's face facts; films like this are not made for us, they're made for straight audiences. Romanticized and idealized versions of our lives made by straight people for straight people.

What exactly does that mean? Honest question. I had a very t normal and somewhat boring life as a gay guy. Are you saying all gay stories should deal with conflicts, closets, suicide and coming out? I don't know any gay person from my personal group who's had any sort of out of the ordinary conflict. This isn't the 1980s anymore, the world evolved.

Stephen Fry was a joke suggestion by someone to undermine complaints about casting straight actors. No one thinks he's a fucking actor. He's a comedian.

Fry isn't even that and I'm sure he thinks that he's an ACTOR.

an ACTEUR!

[Quote] Equally, there absolutely needs to be more opportunities for gay actors to play any type of character, including straight, and there needs to be more high profile film and television gay characters who are not just the funny best friend throwaway, but demonstrate all the different facets of life.

And where do we start? It's lovely to say "Oh, yes we must address this issue" and then nothing is done about it. One way to tackle the issue is to cast gay actors in leading roles as gay characters. Out actors - yes, even ones who have been cast as romantic leads prior to coming out - see opportunities dry up, such that gay assistants/waiters/clerks become all that they are seen for on screen. (Some actors are only ever right for supporting roles or bit parts, those aren't the kind of actors I'm talking about.)

I find it laughable that more than one person in this thread has suggested that "marginal" talents might then be cast in leading roles just because they are gay. I guess it shows that homophobia even influences assessment of talent, which is so fucking laughable considering how many successful actors are (and have been through history) closeted homosexuals...

The last acting role in which I saw Fry was a cameo part as a doctor in a French/Euro gay movie. It wasn't even a dramatic part but her managed to stink.

*he managed

Politics aside - the film looks awesome! I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

Must all supposedly straight actors (they're actually bi but whatever) throw an affectation in their acting when portraying gay characters? it's so frustrating. Can't they just portray a person as anyone else like Heath Ledger did in Brokeback Mountain?

Fry is an actor and a comedian. One does not have to think highly of his skills, but if one peruses his IMDB, they will see that he does plenty non-comedic work. When people think of Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie, I doubt the first thing people think now is "Fry and Laurie", but their individual work.

I don’t really have an opinion as about actor, but I have enjoyed his novels. In case he’s reading this thread so he doesn’t slit his wrists.

What is Fry's non-comedic work? His documentaries? He'd never have got "Wilde" if it weren't for a vague resemblance to the subject.

R116 is a gay lapdog and will defend to his death the homophobia and anti-gay bigotry in Hollywood and the film business in general. He'd rather trash gay men than admit his straight bosses don't like gay men.

From Variety review @ r57:

[quote]Whether he’s unable to accept grimly imminent reality more out of defiant love for his life partner of several decades, or his own cavernous terror of being left alone, is a question that “Supernova” addresses with moving frankness, even when its characters talk gingerly around the issue.

Just lost my love of 40 years. This cut right to the quick.

Hollywood loves gay men as long as they're child molesters like Bryan Singer, or lapdogs like Ellen, or closet cases. You can be a fucking degenerate piece of shit and as long as you're straight you'll never be out of work. But be openly gay and your career is over.

i'm so sorry, r130

Most of the people here trashing what gay men are writing about this film are not gay--they're hets trying to defend their own beliefs that gay actors should not play gay characters. Sadly, they also believe they cannot play straight either.

[Quote] Just lost my love of 40 years.

I condole you.

R117 I'm sure you loved BBM as well, right? Straight audiences only want stories about gay men if someone dies. If yo think the world has evolved why don't you move to some southern state and see how much it has evolved for gay people.

[quote] is a gay lapdog and will defend to his death the homophobia and anti-gay bigotry in Hollywood and the film business in general. He'd rather trash gay men than admit his straight bosses don't like gay men.

Whatever dude, keep living your outlandish fantasies of how Hollywood works from you couch in Bumfuck, Idaho. What you claim wasn't real 15 years ago, let alone today, I won't engage with you any further. BBM is artistic relevant, but I don't care about the film or its story. It does have great acting and direction though.

FYI finding a gay boss in development or any artistic side of this business is like finding a needle in a haystack but I'm sure you know that already.

^^^Proved my point about what Hollywood thinks of out gay actors.

Jesus, R130, I’m so sorry to hear that.

Very sorry for your loss, R130. You will learn to avoid or embrace movies like this. It's very personal.

Eeek! Do 60 year old writers get early onset dementia in their 50s? Like this character? I've never heard of that. Maybe ex ball players....

Alzheimer's used to refer to dementia with onset before age 65. Yes, people dement at earlier ages and have for decades.

To those who are saying that the 2 lead roles should have been cast with out gay actors - who do you think should have been cast?

My sister was diagnosed with Alzheimer's at 50 and was dead before 60. It happens R140.

^^^True. My cousin works at a home for Dementia patients and on her first day she was shocked to see a woman in her 40s living there.

Tucci and Firth have aged in completely opposite ways. Tucci got uglier with age while Firth got hotter.

Tucci was always... regular looking.

Tucci was hot back in the day. As he aged he started to look worse and worse. Firth was ugly when he was younger but has gotten hot as he's aged into his daddy years.

Firth has never been my cup of tea but to suggest that he was a minger is a bit much.

Tucci is just another short cocky actor with a little muscle. (NYC theatre is full of this guy.) Time has not been kind to him.

And while it's inoffensive, his portrayal of the non-gay/gay character in DEVIL WORE PRADA was hardly some brave new achievement in gay representation. Some on DL give him way too much credit for that.

[quote]Tucci and Firth have aged in completely opposite ways. Tucci got uglier with age while Firth got hotter.

I agree. Once he hit his fifties he became handsome to me. He's moreso attractive with the beard.

Oh yes, Firth was just utterly DISGUSTING when younger.

Tucci has always been a character actor--it doesn't matter if he's lost his looks. Firth is more of a leading man---he has no choice but to try his best to hold onto his looks.

R148, to do this, no actor has ever come close to playing Mr. Darcy as brilliantly as Colin Firth. He owns that role!

*To this day

Tucci does "gay" so well, it's hard for me to think of him as straight. No matter the role he plays.

Now that Supernova has been released what do we think of it?

87% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Congratulations R8...you win the prize for likes.

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