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I Guess We Can Just Forget About People Preventing Mass Shootings by Contacting Authorities Before They Happen

This woman is probably not a great mother and, in all fairness, it is obvious she is not an upper middle-class stay at home suburban mom with a lot of resources at her disposal either.

One the charges is that she failed to prevent her mentally ill son from gaining access to firearms. Probably true, but she did save the lives of everyone inside that building.

Something about this doesn't feel right.

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by Anonymousreply 10October 18, 2019 2:15 PM

Your title is misleading, cunt.

She deserves to be arrested for taking her son out of a mental facility, knowing he was a danger, yet still allowing access to firearms.

by Anonymousreply 1October 18, 2019 3:25 AM

Mentally ill people are almost never criminals but victims.

by Anonymousreply 2October 18, 2019 3:33 AM

Sure, Jan.

Donald Trump is mentally ill. Is he a victim?

by Anonymousreply 3October 18, 2019 3:46 AM

R1 / R3 If you are personally involved with someone - whether they are a blood relative or just a friend - who is capable of a mass shooting chances are you are living under less than ideal circumstances.

She may not be the brightest bulb but let's give some credit to a mother for calling the police on her own son knowing full well that he would feel the full weight of the law. That takes a lot.

Her son may have manipulated his way out the facility he was in, he may have convinced his mother he was being mistreated or that he was all better - I have a mentally ill sibling, I know the drill - or she may not have been able to afford to keep him in that facility. You don't know what the hell went on.

Adolescent mass shooters usually bring their guns from home. As I said; this does not speak well for the next person who wants to stop their kid from slaughtering innocent people because they may be hit with a felony charge for having guns in the house.

Not sure what provoked the word cunt - I mean, yeah, this is DL, that word comes as easily as breathing to all of the hyper-sensitive, easily offended, self-righteous DL-ers here who profess to be disgusted by Trump but you react as though this kid took out 50 high schoolers when it was the mother you spit on who stopped that from happening.

by Anonymousreply 4October 18, 2019 5:23 AM

R2 Mentally ill people are victims of an illness that is beyond their control, that it true and this kid was no different. But mentally ill people are responsible for what they do. It is very, very rare for someone to be so out of touch with reality that they do not understand the impact of their actions.

by Anonymousreply 5October 18, 2019 5:25 AM

Another batshit American and his gun. Thanks but I'm saving my Thoughts & Prayers for the next mass-shooting. This psycho was obviously just an amateur :(

by Anonymousreply 6October 18, 2019 5:27 AM

I doubt she’ll be convicted since she reported him to the police. Not being able to afford psychiatric inpatient care isn’t her fault either.

But parents should be charged when their offspring go on a shooting spree. A child is legally a dependent, meaning they’re the responsibility of their parent/guardian.

by Anonymousreply 7October 18, 2019 5:38 AM

My husband is a therapist and has called police about families with suicidal members with guns in the house. One family in particular. It was a hunting rifle and cops didn’t take it away because they made a big deal about being hunters and put it up the top of the barn. Of course the guy knew it was there, got it and shot himself. My husband says the family wanted the son to commit suicide because he was a big fat drag in them, always moping and moaning,

But here’s a story that happened on my mother’s block in FL.ive told it on Datalounge before. My mother used to unlock her back door at 3pm because her sister who lived in the same block would come over for coffee. My mother was in the bathroom, heard the ding of the security thingy and called out “I’ll be out in a minute.” No answer. Odd.

She comes out of the bathroom and a boy about 7 or 8 years old was in her living room. He’d entered through the back door. “Little boy, why are you here?” she asked. “I’m looking for bad guys,” he said. He had a toy gun. There had been some hone robberies in the area because of course, it’s Florida, and the sheriff had sent out flyers about it. My mother said the boy had strange eyes, like he wasn’t “all there.” She told him “You can’t come into people’s houses without being invited inside. Now you need to go home to your mother.” My aunt came in the house just then and helped escort him out of the house.

About 2 weeks later my mother sees a sheriff’s car with a red light a few houses down. She goes outside and a woman was being handcuffed and taken away. My mother knew the woman slightly and thought she was an ok person, so she was kind of surprised to see her getting arrested. Turns out the weird little boy had a real gun this time and was pointing it at other kids. The woman was able to talk the boy into giving her the gun. She immediately called police to give them the gun.

When police arrived they checked her ID and it turned out she was on parole for a drug (marijuana) charge. Having a firearm was a violation of her parole. They sent her back to jail for 18 months. It didn’t matter that she possibly prevented a tragedy, or that she did the right thing by calling police to give them the gun, or that it wasn’t her gun. The very fact she was in possession of a firearm was enough to send her back to prison.

by Anonymousreply 8October 18, 2019 6:34 AM

[quote] My husband says the family wanted the son to commit suicide because he was a big fat drag on them, always moping and moaning,

I should clarify that this is how the family felt about the son, not how my husband felt about him. My husband was trying hard to save him But the family decided they’d had enough.of his depression and being in and out of the hospital. They didn’t have much money & felt he was a drain on their resources.

by Anonymousreply 9October 18, 2019 6:55 AM

Wow R8.

by Anonymousreply 10October 18, 2019 2:15 PM
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