Kathy Griffin on Wendy Williams, 10/14/19

I didn’t think that she sounded too bad. Is there a time in the video I should check out?

She's lost it. Not one laugh..just woe is me.

A whole movie about this whole old, boring story? I think I'll pass.

She did seem shaken about the Trump church-shooting video. I've always loved Kathy but I have also noticed a desperate, dancing-as-fast-as-I-can quality about her ever since that picture came out. Losing her sister to cancer and her mom developing dementia can't have helped. I hope she can find peace though I suspect she won't unless she is willing to step away from the spotlight for awhile.

She most certainly looks healthier and better here than even recently. I think she looked too thin and haggard.

[quote] I suspect she won't unless she is willing to step away from the spotlight for awhile.

It's all she knows.

She was genuinely funny and that's what her success was based on. No one wants to hear about her misery. She made a mistake and then made it worse.

I think her mom's dementia is really hitting her hard, that's a tough one. I hope she rebounds and shows those deplorable fucks they can't break her. Screw everyone who threw her under the bus as well.

Yeah her Mom doesn't recognize her anymore. That has to be tough.

Still love her. Her new hair looks good.

Soooo self important. And Jesus, how suppressed can she be appearing on the Wendy Williams Show (and everywhere else)? She desperately wants to a persecuted figure a la Lenny Bruce. Go back to making fun of Brooke Shields, Clarabella.

Joan Rivers pubic hair would be more interesting to watch than these 2 hags.

She was treated like shit by the tRumpist right wing, the milquetoast middle and the sanctimonious left over a constitutionally protected classic depiction of a political message presented in a cartoonish image be an internationally renowned insult comedian. It was a cartoonish image of the decapitated head of an unpopular authoritarian. BFD. This type of graphic political imagery as a rejection of oppression has been commonplace in political art for thousands of years.

Alternately, the neo-fascist video depiction of a mass murdering tRump in a church where he is shooting, stabbing, beating, and maiming his political enemies doesn't satire, lampoon, nor is it wry or ironic. It fails the test of timely appropriateness and more importantly of decency in political satire though admittedly it remains protected as free speech. With that said, the video is poorly produced neo-fascist propaganda and is nothing more than a blatant and flagrant call to violence to the blood thirsty base, pure and simple. It has no redeeming value in the world of political satire unlike Kathy's photo which is already iconic and will go down in history.

And I'm not really a Kathy superfan to be honest.

People who explain again and again why what happened to Kathy Griffin was wrong are missing the point. Of course it was wrong.

But she needs to let it go. She's not able to make it funny, so it's just her bitching, and people get tired of that, no matter how righteous the position of the person doing the bitching.

Let her keep going over and over this with her therapist if she needs to, and then come up with some new, funny, material for her audiences.

Or she could retire.

Oh god, is she still going on about Trump and pushing the SJW shtick? She’s such a hypocritical asshole. She’s trashed every woman in the country and then couldn’t do Joan Rivers’ gig because it was too mean. She’s borderline. Everyone was supposedly a good friend. They tell a different story. She was an obsessed hanger on. Where’s the dirt she was going to spill on Trapper? Still waiting, Kathleen.

She only cares about Trump because he cost her money. That’s all she cares about.

I’m a long time fan of Kathy Griffin- loved her standup specials. I’ve seen her live twice back in the day. It pains me to say that she does seem whiny and martyr-ish on the circuit ever since the controversy. I get it- there was a huge firestorm and backlash. But she sticks to the same talking points in a way that makes you feel like you’re seated by a bitter divorcee who says the same thing over and over about her ex. She really does need to move on and when it’s discussed, address it with speed and show triumph. If I have to hear one more time about the Interpol and this and that... it’s tired. If she goes back to her core talent and what built her fan base and fortune- she will be back .

I'm with R12.

Love you, Kathy. You're not alone.

Right on, R12. I’m glad Kathy is still standing and hope she gets as Well as she can be,

He broke me. Wahhhhhhh!!!

Another great troll killing thread. Bye, R19.

Ignore the trolls. Easy as pie.

Yeah, she's REALLY going through it. Her post about her mother really stuck with me. Does she have any more family?

She showed the world a picture of Trump dead, his head in her hands.

Now Trump was shown a video of him killing her.

Why is she shocked? Didn't he just do her what she did him in the first place?

What happened to Kathy was wrong and in a way we're all complicit because we sat back and allowed it to happen.

I love Kathy, but she needs to retire. Doesn't she have more $$ than God at this point?

How is her mother Maggie? Does anyone know?

The people who complain the loudest about Kathy and the mask photo are people who don't actually care about it, they just want to whine about liberals who hate Trump. It's the only thing they think about 24/7.

I like her but I’ve never found her funny. There’s always this air of desperation surrounding her. It’s just sad at this point. x

Kathy? Carrot Top called. He wants his hair and face back.

It's not Trump's fault and she doesn't have PTSD.

Her shtick was to make fun of celebrities by revealing private, back stage comments and incidences that these celebrities would've preferred to keep quiet and Griffin is pretty much shunned by those who supplied her with material so now she has nothing.

She could've easily recovered from the Trump thing, he is not exactly beloved, you know.

You're not seeing PTSD or Trump-related trauma, you're seeing a once popular comedienne who is desperate for attention and who desperate for paying jobs.

God Griffin used to riff on Whitney Houston's wigs and now look at her.

Go, Kathy. I wish she'd go to Times Square with Stormy and broadcast on the street with their cellphones and heckle Anderson and Andy streaming live.

I used to like her, till she drank the Hillary koolaid. Just like all the other neoliberals, she wants liberalism that she can live with, but dear lord, don't raise her taxes.

I have no patience for her.

It pretty much is Trump's fault and the media's fault, too, for all the "poor Barron thought that was his father's actual head" and all the op-eds about how evil Kathy was, and for the harassment by the FBI as if this was a real threat, and the media types on Twitter who worded their indignant tweets to make it sound like it was real blood and a real head and a legitimate threat.

I'm curious to see what she does when this Trump story has run its course. After the movie is long forgotten, will she go back to making jokes about the Kardashians and Real Housewives? Or will she create a new "woke" persona that is political? What do her fans want from her in 2020 and beyond? Hm.

I used to like her and thought she was funny. I've been to a few of her live shows.

But, her bitterness over the picture has made her a lot less funny.

Also, let's face it, she's morphing into Carrot Top.

she's an idiot and she always has been. you make a career of dissing people (not unlike WW) and you find yourself alone and unwanted. she made her bed.

I remember her saying she burst into tears when David Letterman agreed with her when she said she was attractive. She didn’t see the irony. She’s such a dumb cunt. She even lost Howard Stern who was completely embarrassed for her when she started crying like a little bitch at the press conference she called. She’s not bright.

I remember her saying she burst into tears when David Letterman agreed with her when she said she was not attractive. She didn’t see the irony. She’s such a dumb cunt. She even lost Howard Stern who was completely embarrassed for her when she started crying like a little bitch at the press conference she called. She’s not bright.

R5 Really? In OP's screen capture, KG looks like Carrot Top more than ever.

I love Kathy and her comeback.

What Kathy went through was rough, being investigated and put on FBI lists was too much. But I think what really got to her was finding out that people she thought were friends, were not her friends. Kathy, had more or less, clawed her way off the D list and had arrived so to speak. She wasn’t an A lister, but she was going to the all the big awards shows and invited to all the right parties. Then it all dried up because people were stupid enough to believe that Barron thought she had really cut his father’s head off. But this was still early in his presidency. Now we know that Barron hardly ever sees the man, hell he barely even knows the man.

Pathetic that your Republican Party and crooked President are going down in flames and this is ALL OP can find to take pleasure in.

I didn't follow "The Apprentice" much, only due to lack of interest. But as someone who was a huuuge fan in the 00s of Donald Trump admitting his partnership with the mafia to David Letterman and getting his fat ass beaten to the ground on the WWE, I can only say his legal defense against impeachment is ... sad. This is a changed psychopath, for the worse. Post-Ukraine scandal, I can hear PTSD in even this hardened sociopath's voice, his mannerisms and his toadstool-shaped penis. He's as ballistic as ever, but clearly this is frightening for him. Wow.

Watch the little fascist eat his most loyal cronies and throw them under the bus before going to jail, where he still won't admit he's ever done anything wrong.

I found many of her stand up comedy routines hilarious.

If handled correctly, the Trump incident could have left her with a patina of subversive bad-girl cool but she blew it.

Nearly every single celeb (of any importance) is anti-Trump or a non-supporter of Trump. Why does it seem that only Kathy Griffin gets this treatment from Hollywood, TV networks and the media? Maybe the answer is her. The Trump thing finally gave all these people an excuse to distance themselves from her after she shit-talked all these years.

[quote]make fun of celebrities by revealing private, back stage comments and incidences

Incidences?

I have seen Kathy twice like many other here and was a fan. I think she was at are peak in 08-12, when pop/TMZ culture was at a zenith. We had Britney, Lindsay, Paris, Anna Nicole, The Hills, etc. Kathy had tons of material. Maybe she was better off when she was still striving and firmly on the d-list. She was still funny but even her pre-trump, later years were mostly Maggie jokes and Cher stories. I hope she does have a comeback. Times have changed a lot over the last 10 years.

I stopped following her on Instagram. Is she still begging people to buy her “Fuck Trump” Xmas ornaments and other crap merch?

[quote] But I think what really got to her was finding out that people she thought were friends, were not her friends.

I think friends is too much of a word. She might have framed it in her statements as close friendship for public consumption, but what she really was pissed about was the complete lack of professional loyalty from the ones (like Anderson Cooper) she has worked with in the past and then, like shallow high school kids, turned their backs on her when things got tough for a minute. She was expecting press releases where they say "I know Kathy Griffin, and she wouldn't hurt a fly!", but they were too afraid of Trump's tweets and the Deplorables being such an important viewer and consumer demographic *rollingeyes*.

And I love Kathy Griffin, but I think behind the scenes she was already on thin ice for the Fashion Police disaster where she took over Joan's show and then had to leave with some bogus excuse. I think that career misfire made her unpopular with a lot of people in Hollywood.

In a perverse way the Trump scandal gave her the final push to leave the US and tour overseas and kind of re-invent herself as SJW comedienne.

She has lost the identities on which her comedy was based. I'm surprised she is too dumb to figure that out. In that sense, I think it is indeed possible that she really has PTSD because she hasn't been Show Business shrewd about the last couple years. Nor about her material success and the access she finally got when she was no longer D list. She's back on the D list and isn't funny. And is old.

Isn't it strange how the anti-Kathy Griffin people turn out also to be deplorable moronic trash?

You're trash.

Did anyone catch Wendy saying, "My gays, " during her hot topics?

She's going to Blow on Friday night while in LA for her walk of fame star

Straight women who use the "my gays" expression should be whipped.

love u Kathy !!!!!

ur our hero !!!!!

[quote] This is a changed woman, for the worse. I can hear PTSD in her voice, her mannerisms.

He broke her.

[quote]I wish she'd go to Times Square with Stormy and broadcast on the street with their cellphones and heckle Anderson and Andy streaming live.

Won't happen. KG doesn't get out of bed for less than $10k and what you're describing doesn't include a paycheck.

[quote]what really got to her was finding out that people she thought were friends

Didn't she build her career on trashing and backstabbing other celebs?

I used to love how she'd drop an octave when she was about to reveal some celebrity gossip. She really knew how to relate to and be intimate with her audience.

But I'd never sit through 90 minutes of her yakking. I hate stand-up comedy in general. a 5 minute clip on YouTube is fine.

Back to Kathy. That thing she did on Oprah & Streisand was a good a stand-up "monologue" as I've ever seen or heard. She was at the height of her powers. When people fall you mustn't forget them when they were at their height.