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Weho Marys Upset Over Building

The Marys of Weho, and a few “speak to the manager” types, want to stop this building from happening. This building is designed by Pritzker winning architect, Thom Mayne/Morphosis. Are they just being dumb?

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by Anonymousreply 120October 16, 2019 7:12 PM

Jesus, that thing is an eyesore.

by Anonymousreply 1October 12, 2019 6:08 PM

That monstrosity looks like a yacht, so you'd think the WeHo whores would be more excited about it.

by Anonymousreply 2October 12, 2019 6:10 PM

This is a building that only people who are involved with architecture and the arts will be able to appreciate.

by Anonymousreply 3October 12, 2019 6:18 PM

I actually like it.

by Anonymousreply 4October 12, 2019 6:25 PM

Naw, gurl, just like the little gay boy calling out the naked emperor, I'm saying that shit is UGLY.

by Anonymousreply 5October 12, 2019 6:28 PM

What's wrong with the "normal" building of the two? It looks all bombed out and decayed, like there's no glass in the windows. It looks like one of the buildings in Life After People where it's full of vines and birds nests and shit.

by Anonymousreply 6October 12, 2019 6:30 PM

Thom Mayne and Metamophosis designed that hideous Caltrans Headquarters building in DTLA. Why they keep landing major architectural projects in LA is beyond me.

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by Anonymousreply 7October 12, 2019 6:31 PM

Maybe this is architecture for straight boys? I actually think the cal trans building is great, Emerson college and Cooper Union buildings are also remarkable. If Morphosis is so bad, why did Mayne receive a Pritzker?

by Anonymousreply 8October 12, 2019 6:34 PM

I love it!. Gawd, all these urban regressives everywhere in this country. Drives me nuts

by Anonymousreply 9October 12, 2019 6:34 PM

R3, Oh REALLY???

Anyone involved in art and design understand that this is a building that doesn’t fit into the present landscape of WeHo.

This is just an ugly building. West Hollywood has become blinded by money and bureaucratic whores who are too high on meth and poppers to make choices that preserve the original landscape and distinctive character of this tiny city.

Just get on with it, if they must. Raze the entire city to the fucking ground, dump a million tons of refined sand on the it all, and build these fucking monstrosities, favored by corrupt Saudis and Russians for the purpose of laundering money.

Oh, and don’t forget the pool with a HUGE bar in the middle, surrounded by lawn chairs and private cabanas, featuring beds and complimentary meth pipes for everyone!

by Anonymousreply 10October 12, 2019 6:39 PM

In 30 years the Hollywood Hills will be pointless because the south side of Sunset Blvd. will be all skyscrapers blocking the view.

by Anonymousreply 11October 12, 2019 6:44 PM

[R10] Do you live on the East Coast? You probably aren’t used to avant-garde architecture.

by Anonymousreply 12October 12, 2019 6:45 PM

It's awesome. Building codes are very restrictive in LA, more so in suburbs like West Hollywood and Santa Monica. It's part of of the "I have mine, no one else can come in" generation.

by Anonymousreply 13October 12, 2019 8:19 PM

R12, presently, I do. Born and raised in NYC and Los Angeles. I’m a big fan of avant-garde architecture, when done right, in the appropriate landscape/environment. I’ve lived in WeHo for most of my life, & I don’t see how this specific structure, built in this specific city, works well.

by Anonymousreply 14October 12, 2019 9:48 PM

The one on the right is ok but the one on the left is fucking hideous.

by Anonymousreply 15October 12, 2019 9:50 PM

Everyone hated the new pyramid at the Louvre at the time. Now they all take the cheesy photo pretending to touch it. Maybe it will grow on people.

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by Anonymousreply 16October 12, 2019 9:54 PM

Not sure a building with "the hanging gardens of WEHO" is smart when water will continue to be a critical problem in LA. The other building seems like it's trying to hard. I agree that scale and setting in a neighborhood need to be considered. You can have great, urban, urbane, avant garde architecture on a scale that doesn't soak up all the viewshed. Salesforce building in SF is, in my opinion, an example of the wrong scale. On its own terms it may be an interesting design project, but it negatively impacted the skyline and the urban gestalt of the city... rounded, bloated, misfit.

by Anonymousreply 17October 12, 2019 9:57 PM

Will it house all the burgeoning homeless population?

by Anonymousreply 18October 12, 2019 9:57 PM

[R14] It would probably make more sense to you if you were here. West Hollywood residents also tend to be a little more aesthetically conservative, ironically. Beverly Hills residents even more so. In places like Culver City, experimentation is welcomed, probably because of Eric Owen Moss.

by Anonymousreply 19October 12, 2019 10:00 PM

[R17] are you high? The amount of water for something like that is minimal. The Salesforce building is a completely different situation, different scale, different typology, different caliber of architect and looks like my nose hair trimmer.

by Anonymousreply 20October 12, 2019 10:07 PM

My alarm bells are going off at "Pritzker winning architect".

Pritzker is synonymous with Mind-Control and Hideousness.

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by Anonymousreply 21October 12, 2019 10:22 PM

I kind of like it for its creativity and imagination, but NOT in WeHo. It would be a monstrosity there.

by Anonymousreply 22October 12, 2019 10:29 PM

[R22] worried about how it fits in with the adjacent London Hotel? That hotel is nice on the inside, but the exterior is like a dismal casino. Most of the architecture in the area is lackluster.

by Anonymousreply 23October 12, 2019 10:34 PM

yuck.

by Anonymousreply 24October 12, 2019 10:35 PM

R16, how much skin are you planning to drop on this beast?

by Anonymousreply 25October 12, 2019 10:40 PM

R19, it does not fit into the overall landscape of Sunset Blvd. That is the problem. It’s too big and too avante-garde in an already overcrowded space.

How can you look at that design at OP’s link, and tell me with a straight face and I’m all honesty, that it fits?

It doesn’t fit. Just like when you try on a new pair of pants, or a shirt that looks great on the mannequin, but doesn’t look good on you. Your eye cannot lie to you, it will not lie to you.

This building does not please the eye of the beholder, ESPECIALLY if the eye can appreciate architecture and design in its purest of forms, utility, and purpose.

by Anonymousreply 26October 12, 2019 10:48 PM

Breathtaking.

by Anonymousreply 27October 12, 2019 10:53 PM

It looks like a shark eating up the building next to it. Is that the point? It would be ok in a sprawling desert city like Las Vegas. Where they have a mishmash of junk.

by Anonymousreply 28October 12, 2019 10:54 PM

I like the building, but it looks like total crap in that location and would be an eyesore in that neighborhood.

Whoever is in charge of building plans and permits should deny construction permits.

by Anonymousreply 29October 12, 2019 11:10 PM

The structure on the left looks like the skeleton of an abandon building that has surrendered to the surrounding foliage, and the structure on the right is futuristic mutant building about to eat it up.

by Anonymousreply 30October 12, 2019 11:20 PM

[R30] and that’s why it’s cool.

[R26] stop reading Witold Rybczynski, Jane Jacobs, Robert A.M. Stern or whatever nonsense books you’re reading.

by Anonymousreply 31October 12, 2019 11:34 PM

L.A. is being ruined with all these ugly modern buildings they keep putting up. Gone are nice Mediterranean style homes.

by Anonymousreply 32October 12, 2019 11:37 PM

[R32] there are plenty in Orange County, someone once called the style “Menopausal Mediterranean.”

by Anonymousreply 33October 12, 2019 11:39 PM

I'm with the Marys...it looks unbalanced and out of place, big time. You know, the people who live in a place should have a say in what goes in. If this was just about some petty little cosmetic thing I would say they were overreacting. But that giant eyesore is going to cause a lot of disruption and change the entire vibe of the neighborhood.

by Anonymousreply 34October 12, 2019 11:59 PM

[R34] take a walk around the neighborhood, most buildings are dismal, this will inject some life into this area.

by Anonymousreply 35October 13, 2019 12:03 AM

It will collapse in THE BIG ONE!!!

by Anonymousreply 36October 13, 2019 12:03 AM

I thought the building on the left was the parking garage. It appears it wants to be both revolutionary and *woke*, mixing futuristic jetson angles and glass with greenery and boxy decay.

Choose one

by Anonymousreply 37October 13, 2019 12:17 AM

East Coasters are ruining the West.

I bitterly remember The Washington Post article urging Los Angeles to become New York and urging East coast investors to turn it into one. It's a losing battle I'm afraid. The largest share of new real state is coming from New York oligarchs and Chinese firms.

For those familiar with all the upcoming projects coming to L.A., none of which were granted to local investors, take a look at this beauty from AC Martin

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by Anonymousreply 38October 13, 2019 12:22 AM

R31, haven’t read any of those, but thanks for the names of the authors.

I haven’t read anything on architecture in years. I was consumed with it as a kid, for whatever reason, & almost everything I consider palatable, is influenced by what I found beautiful, even way back then.

Not everyone has to read a book on architecture, in order to develop philosophies regarding concept, design, and placement/execution.

Again, everyone recognizes a good thing when they see it. Stop arguing with me, because you know I’m right.

by Anonymousreply 39October 13, 2019 12:25 AM

[R38] A.C. Martin hasn’t designed anything good since the DWP building.

by Anonymousreply 40October 13, 2019 12:26 AM

[R39] Leave it to those who are actively involved in the architectural community, they know best.

by Anonymousreply 41October 13, 2019 12:28 AM

Rubbish

by Anonymousreply 42October 13, 2019 12:45 AM

R41, ummm where have I not left it to those in the architectural community? Am I paying for this? Haven’t gotten the memo asking for my seal of approval, or a check, so unlike you, who has decided to festoon me with a bib, & place me in my high chair, sans my baby rattle, I am commenting on an article featured in Curbed, posted on an a website that last I checked, isn’t architecture or city planning centric.

Also, a priceless comment from someone whom I pretty darn sure, ain’t an architect either. LMAO 😂!

p.s. It ugly as fuck, even for avante-garde ANYTHING, & you know this, too.

by Anonymousreply 43October 13, 2019 12:49 AM

Emperor without clothes.

by Anonymousreply 44October 13, 2019 12:50 AM

I kood hev dun mooch baiter.

by Anonymousreply 45October 13, 2019 12:55 AM

Why are folks so conservative and narrow-minded when it comes to visual or auditory art? It's ok to experiment and be boundary-pushing.

by Anonymousreply 46October 13, 2019 12:56 AM

It's a gimmick to combine the two forms. Build each one, far apart.

by Anonymousreply 47October 13, 2019 1:17 AM

It's very Pac-man-ish.

by Anonymousreply 48October 13, 2019 1:20 AM

Can’t we just build a lovely memorial park to River Phoenix and leave it at that?

by Anonymousreply 49October 13, 2019 1:32 AM

Calm down, naysayers. After numerous design reviews, they will end up with a building that looks like. a Kodak flashcube. That should soothe your bland, midwestern sensibilities.

by Anonymousreply 50October 13, 2019 1:40 AM

It's ugly but Weho is mostly hetero.

by Anonymousreply 51October 13, 2019 1:42 AM

^^^ the hell with you, 50, I’m from Constantinople, Mesopotamia

by Anonymousreply 52October 13, 2019 1:43 AM

[R43] BPD much?

by Anonymousreply 53October 13, 2019 1:51 AM

[quote]Why are folks so conservative and narrow-minded when it comes to visual or auditory art? It's ok to experiment and be boundary-pushing.

It's one thing to have "boundary-pushing" art in a gallery or on temporary display somewhere. People can opt to go see it or not; if they dislike it, no big deal, life goes on and it's forgotten soon enough. A massive building is permanent and it is impossible to ignore. And we all know art is highly subjective, so the fact that so many people are voicing their dislike should mean something. It hardly makes someone conservative or narrow-minded if they aren't a fan of every architecture's flight of fancy. Looks pretty cold and soulless to me, frankly.

by Anonymousreply 54October 13, 2019 2:19 AM

This monstrosity would be acceptable if it were surrounded by 4 acres of parkland.

Otherwise, NO!

by Anonymousreply 55October 13, 2019 2:24 AM

[R54] embrace the future.

by Anonymousreply 56October 13, 2019 2:25 AM

[quote] Can’t we just build a lovely memorial park to River Phoenix and leave it at that?

This is what I thought of also. A Lady Liberty sized monument of him watching over West Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 57October 13, 2019 3:20 AM

R56 go away Pzitzer. Your building is hideous AF.

by Anonymousreply 58October 13, 2019 3:32 AM

R56 that goes the same for your portrayal of woman face.

by Anonymousreply 59October 13, 2019 3:33 AM

R14 You claim that you're a "big fan of avant-garde architecture" but can you tell us what it is?

Frank Lloyd Wright and Corbusier used to be 'avant-garde' but now they're definitely 'Post-garde'.

Philip Johnson was ashamed of all the sterile blocks be built in the 30s and 40s.

by Anonymousreply 60October 13, 2019 3:54 AM

I have to admit I never thought the artfully ripped bleached jeans look would make a come back, especially in an high-rise, but here we are.

by Anonymousreply 61October 13, 2019 4:18 AM

Is the man in your building really you, OP? You can tell us, you're amongst friends. Cold, back-stabbing, gossipy friends, but friends none-the-less.

by Anonymousreply 62October 13, 2019 4:23 AM

I'll take care of it.

by Anonymousreply 63October 13, 2019 4:24 AM

Whoopsies, wrong thread!

by Anonymousreply 64October 13, 2019 4:25 AM

What is going to be inside of the building? Offices? Homes? Yes, I know it says “mixed use”, but.

Also, I see a lot of wasted space.

by Anonymousreply 65October 13, 2019 10:08 AM

Who cares? It’s LA — doesn’t matter.

by Anonymousreply 66October 13, 2019 10:33 AM

That wouldn't survive an earthquake.

by Anonymousreply 67October 13, 2019 10:41 AM

[quote]Are they just being dumb?

Who speaks like this? You sound like a moron.

by Anonymousreply 68October 13, 2019 11:03 AM

R66 Actually, WeHo is not part of Los Angeles city, though is part of LA county.

by Anonymousreply 69October 13, 2019 1:22 PM

[R68] Some people speak like that, and it’s called using humor. Remove the stick from your ass immediately.

by Anonymousreply 70October 13, 2019 2:42 PM

R69, Pendant. It is part of the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area.

by Anonymousreply 71October 13, 2019 4:28 PM

Most of the buildings going up in LA are an eye sore to their neighborhoods because they do not fit in architecturally with the preexisting buildings and landscape. They are just throwing up ultra modern buildings, most with horrible architecture, all over town. Reminds me of Vancouver.

by Anonymousreply 72October 13, 2019 4:34 PM

It’s beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 73October 13, 2019 4:34 PM

It’s official! WEHO is changing and I am scare.

More and more you encounter loud East coast douchebro “artists” in our streets. They are pissed, in your face, and it hurts when they fuck you.

by Anonymousreply 74October 13, 2019 4:43 PM

Dystopian futuristic. Giving me strong "Elysium" vibes.

Which is probably where we're headed...so I guess it's fitting.

by Anonymousreply 75October 13, 2019 6:11 PM

The Broad building in DTLA is, to me, an example of modern architecture that fits in with its surroundings. The low profile, boxy look complements the taller boxy structures in its vicinity. This planned WeHo building looks out of left field. But perhaps this is just the beginning of future WeHo, where we'll see more constructions like this, and then this will no longer seem out of place.

R65, if it's "mixed use," then most likely it'll be a combination of condos/apartments and office spaces, with restaurants and retail establishments on the ground and lower floors.

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by Anonymousreply 76October 13, 2019 6:24 PM

The Broad building in DTLA is, to me, an example of modern architecture that fits in with its surroundings. The low profile, boxy look complements the taller boxy structures in its vicinity. This planned WeHo building looks out of left field. But perhaps this is just the beginning of future WeHo, where we'll see more constructions like this, and then this will no longer seem out of place.

R65, if it's "mixed use," then most likely it'll be a combination of condos/apartments and office spaces, with restaurants and retail establishments on the ground and lower floors.

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by Anonymousreply 77October 13, 2019 6:24 PM

[R77] I hear what you’re saying, in terms of scale, the Broad harmonizes with its neighbors. In the case of this West Hollywood building, it frames the surrounding hills and city to become part of its context, and still be something sculptural and dynamic.

by Anonymousreply 78October 13, 2019 8:56 PM

R77 R78 Speaking of which - the prime example of architecture that both challenges our visual understanding of place, structure and function, as well as be perfectly at home, re-defining "at home", in its locus.

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by Anonymousreply 79October 13, 2019 9:14 PM

This shit reminds me of the Brady Bunch episode where Beebee Gallini wants Mike Brady to design a building shaped like a compact or a powder puff.

Every time I see a goofy building like this, that’s what I imagine. Some dingdong dreaming of a building shaped like a wisp of smoke or the trajectory of buckshot or some garbage.

by Anonymousreply 80October 14, 2019 12:02 PM

R80, I think there's a big difference between conceptual design, like the planned WeHo building, and kitsch, which Beebe Gallini's pink powderpuff design idea is. Conceptual is a metaphoric interpretation rather than an a literal one.

This is literal and kitsch:

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by Anonymousreply 81October 14, 2019 5:52 PM

They need something more phallic.

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by Anonymousreply 82October 14, 2019 5:55 PM

I like the Nouvel, Pei,, Koolhaas buildings in Doha, which define their areas, definitely are not mundane. This thing looks out of place, flat-out ludicrous.

by Anonymousreply 83October 14, 2019 6:03 PM

This was a missed opportunity. They should have designed a cock-going-in-ass building. It could have been legendary.

by Anonymousreply 84October 14, 2019 6:36 PM

People never seem to get riled up about most of the boring, ugly ass crap that goes up around them. Only when something interesting comes along do people notice and get upset.

by Anonymousreply 85October 14, 2019 6:44 PM

The trouble began when architects convinced themselves that they were artists more than craftsmen.

by Anonymousreply 86October 14, 2019 6:49 PM

Agree with R85. What the entire city of LA needs to ban are these hideous, ornate, cookie-cutter buildings that are billed as "luxury" apartments.

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by Anonymousreply 87October 14, 2019 6:52 PM

[quote] They should have designed a cock-going-in-ass building. It could have been legendary.

True, and it is in West Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 88October 14, 2019 7:42 PM

This reminds me that back in the 70s, the nearby "Blue Whale" was pretty controversial. L.A. Times just did a retrospective article about it in July when the architect, Cesar Pelli, died.

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by Anonymousreply 89October 14, 2019 7:45 PM

I like the look of the building but common sense says that is not a design that should be built in an earthquake zone.

by Anonymousreply 90October 14, 2019 7:52 PM

They should built this building at OP in/near LAX -- it would go with their futuristic, space theme.

by Anonymousreply 91October 14, 2019 7:53 PM

I'm with R37 - the two "structures" are both interesting in their own right but look like a ridiculous "mash-up" in this particular context. It reminds me of a sleek, post and beam, midcentury home being given a tacky 1980's makeover with tudor-themed gingerbread and skirted, tassled, fussy velvet furniture. The two styles do not blend.

by Anonymousreply 92October 14, 2019 8:17 PM

So is it art if your first instinct is to laugh at it? When it's not trying to be a comedy?

by Anonymousreply 93October 14, 2019 8:42 PM

The other view of it is less startling to me. And you can see what the darker building is about, glass and greenery.

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by Anonymousreply 94October 14, 2019 8:43 PM

I think it would be fine with just the curved futuristic building. That part looks cool. The structure with all the greenery, as I've said, looks like the remnants of a decayed bulding that has surrendered to the elements. Not cool.

by Anonymousreply 95October 14, 2019 8:57 PM

Seems like a water sucking environmental disaster

by Anonymousreply 96October 14, 2019 9:02 PM

How dystopian.

by Anonymousreply 97October 14, 2019 9:05 PM

Seems like part of a post apocalyptic scenery where the C building is a part of an alien spaceship that has crashed to the ground and the other is the remains of a building that has been reclaimed by nature.

by Anonymousreply 98October 14, 2019 9:27 PM

"Seems like a water sucking environmental disaster"

They'll use lovely artificial plants. EZ care - all you have to do is dust them once in awhile.

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by Anonymousreply 99October 14, 2019 9:42 PM

Greywater.

by Anonymousreply 100October 14, 2019 10:09 PM

Retro: Hanging Gardens of Babylon

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by Anonymousreply 101October 15, 2019 5:27 PM

[quote] If Morphosis is so bad, why did Mayne receive a Pritzker?

For the same reason "Crash" received an Oscar and Pearl S. Buck received the Nobel Prize for Literature.

Sometimes even professionals have shitty taste.

by Anonymousreply 102October 15, 2019 5:31 PM

I’m all for it. Enough with the bland glass boxes. The US needs more progressive, unique architecture - even at the risk some of it will be considered ugly. Much like many MCM designs.

by Anonymousreply 103October 15, 2019 6:09 PM

r101 LA already has some Assyrian architecture.

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by Anonymousreply 104October 15, 2019 6:58 PM

This is what it used to look like.

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by Anonymousreply 105October 15, 2019 7:01 PM

I couldn't care less about who designed the building. It's hideous

by Anonymousreply 106October 15, 2019 7:03 PM

NIMBYism is for the old. Move into the future.

by Anonymousreply 107October 15, 2019 7:05 PM

Companion article about other projects on the Sunset Strip

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by Anonymousreply 108October 16, 2019 12:16 AM

R108, I love the first one. Now that's a construction project I will support. The others are nothing special.

by Anonymousreply 109October 16, 2019 1:53 AM

R104, and Babylonian.

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by Anonymousreply 110October 16, 2019 1:55 AM

[R109] because it’s the most phallic?

by Anonymousreply 111October 16, 2019 3:45 AM

R109 I wonder if that one is supposed to be some kind of interpretation of the Capital Records building?

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by Anonymousreply 112October 16, 2019 3:59 AM

Oh dear, they are really going for the futuristic look for L.A.

Some of those projects are

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by Anonymousreply 113October 16, 2019 4:08 AM

It's an eye sore! It doesn't even compliment each other. person who designed it must really hate LA or blind or both

by Anonymousreply 114October 16, 2019 4:32 AM

R111, No. I like it because it looks cool, it has movement, and it isn't your typical symmetrical boxy tower with clean lines.

The Frank Gehry design looks like yet another one his melting metal works. How innovative. And the ziggurat style Arts Club building... didn't we see those in the '60s in the South of France?

by Anonymousreply 115October 16, 2019 6:10 AM

Douglas Vu should hang his head in shame for this proposed monstrosity.

by Anonymousreply 116October 16, 2019 6:28 AM

I prefer the Eastern Columbia Building in downtown LA.

by Anonymousreply 117October 16, 2019 6:42 AM

It sure is ugly

by Anonymousreply 118October 16, 2019 6:50 AM

I agree!

That building is grotesque.

by Anonymousreply 119October 16, 2019 6:53 AM

The main thing LA has going for it architecturally is modern architecture. To not allow modern interring design is stupid. It will never be a classic city - which is its strength.

by Anonymousreply 120October 16, 2019 7:12 PM
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