The Marys of Weho, and a few “speak to the manager” types, want to stop this building from happening. This building is designed by Pritzker winning architect, Thom Mayne/Morphosis. Are they just being dumb?
Jesus, that thing is an eyesore.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | October 12, 2019 6:08 PM |
That monstrosity looks like a yacht, so you'd think the WeHo whores would be more excited about it.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 12, 2019 6:10 PM |
This is a building that only people who are involved with architecture and the arts will be able to appreciate.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 12, 2019 6:18 PM |
I actually like it.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 12, 2019 6:25 PM |
Naw, gurl, just like the little gay boy calling out the naked emperor, I'm saying that shit is UGLY.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 12, 2019 6:28 PM |
What's wrong with the "normal" building of the two? It looks all bombed out and decayed, like there's no glass in the windows. It looks like one of the buildings in Life After People where it's full of vines and birds nests and shit.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 12, 2019 6:30 PM |
Thom Mayne and Metamophosis designed that hideous Caltrans Headquarters building in DTLA. Why they keep landing major architectural projects in LA is beyond me.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 12, 2019 6:31 PM |
Maybe this is architecture for straight boys? I actually think the cal trans building is great, Emerson college and Cooper Union buildings are also remarkable. If Morphosis is so bad, why did Mayne receive a Pritzker?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 12, 2019 6:34 PM |
I love it!. Gawd, all these urban regressives everywhere in this country. Drives me nuts
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 12, 2019 6:34 PM |
R3, Oh REALLY???
Anyone involved in art and design understand that this is a building that doesn’t fit into the present landscape of WeHo.
This is just an ugly building. West Hollywood has become blinded by money and bureaucratic whores who are too high on meth and poppers to make choices that preserve the original landscape and distinctive character of this tiny city.
Just get on with it, if they must. Raze the entire city to the fucking ground, dump a million tons of refined sand on the it all, and build these fucking monstrosities, favored by corrupt Saudis and Russians for the purpose of laundering money.
Oh, and don’t forget the pool with a HUGE bar in the middle, surrounded by lawn chairs and private cabanas, featuring beds and complimentary meth pipes for everyone!
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 12, 2019 6:39 PM |
In 30 years the Hollywood Hills will be pointless because the south side of Sunset Blvd. will be all skyscrapers blocking the view.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 12, 2019 6:44 PM |
[R10] Do you live on the East Coast? You probably aren’t used to avant-garde architecture.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 12, 2019 6:45 PM |
It's awesome. Building codes are very restrictive in LA, more so in suburbs like West Hollywood and Santa Monica. It's part of of the "I have mine, no one else can come in" generation.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 12, 2019 8:19 PM |
R12, presently, I do. Born and raised in NYC and Los Angeles. I’m a big fan of avant-garde architecture, when done right, in the appropriate landscape/environment. I’ve lived in WeHo for most of my life, & I don’t see how this specific structure, built in this specific city, works well.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 12, 2019 9:48 PM |
The one on the right is ok but the one on the left is fucking hideous.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | October 12, 2019 9:50 PM |
Everyone hated the new pyramid at the Louvre at the time. Now they all take the cheesy photo pretending to touch it. Maybe it will grow on people.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 12, 2019 9:54 PM |
Not sure a building with "the hanging gardens of WEHO" is smart when water will continue to be a critical problem in LA. The other building seems like it's trying to hard. I agree that scale and setting in a neighborhood need to be considered. You can have great, urban, urbane, avant garde architecture on a scale that doesn't soak up all the viewshed. Salesforce building in SF is, in my opinion, an example of the wrong scale. On its own terms it may be an interesting design project, but it negatively impacted the skyline and the urban gestalt of the city... rounded, bloated, misfit.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 12, 2019 9:57 PM |
Will it house all the burgeoning homeless population?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 12, 2019 9:57 PM |
[R14] It would probably make more sense to you if you were here. West Hollywood residents also tend to be a little more aesthetically conservative, ironically. Beverly Hills residents even more so. In places like Culver City, experimentation is welcomed, probably because of Eric Owen Moss.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 12, 2019 10:00 PM |
[R17] are you high? The amount of water for something like that is minimal. The Salesforce building is a completely different situation, different scale, different typology, different caliber of architect and looks like my nose hair trimmer.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 12, 2019 10:07 PM |
My alarm bells are going off at "Pritzker winning architect".
Pritzker is synonymous with Mind-Control and Hideousness.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 12, 2019 10:22 PM |
I kind of like it for its creativity and imagination, but NOT in WeHo. It would be a monstrosity there.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 12, 2019 10:29 PM |
[R22] worried about how it fits in with the adjacent London Hotel? That hotel is nice on the inside, but the exterior is like a dismal casino. Most of the architecture in the area is lackluster.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 12, 2019 10:34 PM |
yuck.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 12, 2019 10:35 PM |
R16, how much skin are you planning to drop on this beast?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 12, 2019 10:40 PM |
R19, it does not fit into the overall landscape of Sunset Blvd. That is the problem. It’s too big and too avante-garde in an already overcrowded space.
How can you look at that design at OP’s link, and tell me with a straight face and I’m all honesty, that it fits?
It doesn’t fit. Just like when you try on a new pair of pants, or a shirt that looks great on the mannequin, but doesn’t look good on you. Your eye cannot lie to you, it will not lie to you.
This building does not please the eye of the beholder, ESPECIALLY if the eye can appreciate architecture and design in its purest of forms, utility, and purpose.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 12, 2019 10:48 PM |
Breathtaking.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 12, 2019 10:53 PM |
It looks like a shark eating up the building next to it. Is that the point? It would be ok in a sprawling desert city like Las Vegas. Where they have a mishmash of junk.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 12, 2019 10:54 PM |
I like the building, but it looks like total crap in that location and would be an eyesore in that neighborhood.
Whoever is in charge of building plans and permits should deny construction permits.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 12, 2019 11:10 PM |
The structure on the left looks like the skeleton of an abandon building that has surrendered to the surrounding foliage, and the structure on the right is futuristic mutant building about to eat it up.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 12, 2019 11:20 PM |
[R30] and that’s why it’s cool.
[R26] stop reading Witold Rybczynski, Jane Jacobs, Robert A.M. Stern or whatever nonsense books you’re reading.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 12, 2019 11:34 PM |
L.A. is being ruined with all these ugly modern buildings they keep putting up. Gone are nice Mediterranean style homes.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 12, 2019 11:37 PM |
[R32] there are plenty in Orange County, someone once called the style “Menopausal Mediterranean.”
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 12, 2019 11:39 PM |
I'm with the Marys...it looks unbalanced and out of place, big time. You know, the people who live in a place should have a say in what goes in. If this was just about some petty little cosmetic thing I would say they were overreacting. But that giant eyesore is going to cause a lot of disruption and change the entire vibe of the neighborhood.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 12, 2019 11:59 PM |
[R34] take a walk around the neighborhood, most buildings are dismal, this will inject some life into this area.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 13, 2019 12:03 AM |
It will collapse in THE BIG ONE!!!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 13, 2019 12:03 AM |
I thought the building on the left was the parking garage. It appears it wants to be both revolutionary and *woke*, mixing futuristic jetson angles and glass with greenery and boxy decay.
Choose one
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 13, 2019 12:17 AM |
East Coasters are ruining the West.
I bitterly remember The Washington Post article urging Los Angeles to become New York and urging East coast investors to turn it into one. It's a losing battle I'm afraid. The largest share of new real state is coming from New York oligarchs and Chinese firms.
For those familiar with all the upcoming projects coming to L.A., none of which were granted to local investors, take a look at this beauty from AC Martin
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 13, 2019 12:22 AM |
R31, haven’t read any of those, but thanks for the names of the authors.
I haven’t read anything on architecture in years. I was consumed with it as a kid, for whatever reason, & almost everything I consider palatable, is influenced by what I found beautiful, even way back then.
Not everyone has to read a book on architecture, in order to develop philosophies regarding concept, design, and placement/execution.
Again, everyone recognizes a good thing when they see it. Stop arguing with me, because you know I’m right.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 13, 2019 12:25 AM |
[R38] A.C. Martin hasn’t designed anything good since the DWP building.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 13, 2019 12:26 AM |
[R39] Leave it to those who are actively involved in the architectural community, they know best.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 13, 2019 12:28 AM |
Rubbish
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 13, 2019 12:45 AM |
R41, ummm where have I not left it to those in the architectural community? Am I paying for this? Haven’t gotten the memo asking for my seal of approval, or a check, so unlike you, who has decided to festoon me with a bib, & place me in my high chair, sans my baby rattle, I am commenting on an article featured in Curbed, posted on an a website that last I checked, isn’t architecture or city planning centric.
Also, a priceless comment from someone whom I pretty darn sure, ain’t an architect either. LMAO 😂!
p.s. It ugly as fuck, even for avante-garde ANYTHING, & you know this, too.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 13, 2019 12:49 AM |
Emperor without clothes.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 13, 2019 12:50 AM |
I kood hev dun mooch baiter.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 13, 2019 12:55 AM |
Why are folks so conservative and narrow-minded when it comes to visual or auditory art? It's ok to experiment and be boundary-pushing.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 13, 2019 12:56 AM |
It's a gimmick to combine the two forms. Build each one, far apart.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 13, 2019 1:17 AM |
It's very Pac-man-ish.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 13, 2019 1:20 AM |
Can’t we just build a lovely memorial park to River Phoenix and leave it at that?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 13, 2019 1:32 AM |
Calm down, naysayers. After numerous design reviews, they will end up with a building that looks like. a Kodak flashcube. That should soothe your bland, midwestern sensibilities.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 13, 2019 1:40 AM |
It's ugly but Weho is mostly hetero.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 13, 2019 1:42 AM |
^^^ the hell with you, 50, I’m from Constantinople, Mesopotamia
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 13, 2019 1:43 AM |
[R43] BPD much?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 13, 2019 1:51 AM |
[quote]Why are folks so conservative and narrow-minded when it comes to visual or auditory art? It's ok to experiment and be boundary-pushing.
It's one thing to have "boundary-pushing" art in a gallery or on temporary display somewhere. People can opt to go see it or not; if they dislike it, no big deal, life goes on and it's forgotten soon enough. A massive building is permanent and it is impossible to ignore. And we all know art is highly subjective, so the fact that so many people are voicing their dislike should mean something. It hardly makes someone conservative or narrow-minded if they aren't a fan of every architecture's flight of fancy. Looks pretty cold and soulless to me, frankly.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 13, 2019 2:19 AM |
This monstrosity would be acceptable if it were surrounded by 4 acres of parkland.
Otherwise, NO!
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 13, 2019 2:24 AM |
[R54] embrace the future.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 13, 2019 2:25 AM |
[quote] Can’t we just build a lovely memorial park to River Phoenix and leave it at that?
This is what I thought of also. A Lady Liberty sized monument of him watching over West Hollywood.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 13, 2019 3:20 AM |
R56 go away Pzitzer. Your building is hideous AF.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 13, 2019 3:32 AM |
R56 that goes the same for your portrayal of woman face.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 13, 2019 3:33 AM |
R14 You claim that you're a "big fan of avant-garde architecture" but can you tell us what it is?
Frank Lloyd Wright and Corbusier used to be 'avant-garde' but now they're definitely 'Post-garde'.
Philip Johnson was ashamed of all the sterile blocks be built in the 30s and 40s.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 13, 2019 3:54 AM |
I have to admit I never thought the artfully ripped bleached jeans look would make a come back, especially in an high-rise, but here we are.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 13, 2019 4:18 AM |
Is the man in your building really you, OP? You can tell us, you're amongst friends. Cold, back-stabbing, gossipy friends, but friends none-the-less.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 13, 2019 4:23 AM |
I'll take care of it.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 13, 2019 4:24 AM |
Whoopsies, wrong thread!
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 13, 2019 4:25 AM |
What is going to be inside of the building? Offices? Homes? Yes, I know it says “mixed use”, but.
Also, I see a lot of wasted space.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 13, 2019 10:08 AM |
Who cares? It’s LA — doesn’t matter.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 13, 2019 10:33 AM |
That wouldn't survive an earthquake.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 13, 2019 10:41 AM |
[quote]Are they just being dumb?
Who speaks like this? You sound like a moron.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 13, 2019 11:03 AM |
R66 Actually, WeHo is not part of Los Angeles city, though is part of LA county.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 13, 2019 1:22 PM |
[R68] Some people speak like that, and it’s called using humor. Remove the stick from your ass immediately.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 13, 2019 2:42 PM |
R69, Pendant. It is part of the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 13, 2019 4:28 PM |
Most of the buildings going up in LA are an eye sore to their neighborhoods because they do not fit in architecturally with the preexisting buildings and landscape. They are just throwing up ultra modern buildings, most with horrible architecture, all over town. Reminds me of Vancouver.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 13, 2019 4:34 PM |
It’s beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 13, 2019 4:34 PM |
It’s official! WEHO is changing and I am scare.
More and more you encounter loud East coast douchebro “artists” in our streets. They are pissed, in your face, and it hurts when they fuck you.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 13, 2019 4:43 PM |
Dystopian futuristic. Giving me strong "Elysium" vibes.
Which is probably where we're headed...so I guess it's fitting.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 13, 2019 6:11 PM |
The Broad building in DTLA is, to me, an example of modern architecture that fits in with its surroundings. The low profile, boxy look complements the taller boxy structures in its vicinity. This planned WeHo building looks out of left field. But perhaps this is just the beginning of future WeHo, where we'll see more constructions like this, and then this will no longer seem out of place.
R65, if it's "mixed use," then most likely it'll be a combination of condos/apartments and office spaces, with restaurants and retail establishments on the ground and lower floors.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 13, 2019 6:24 PM |
The Broad building in DTLA is, to me, an example of modern architecture that fits in with its surroundings. The low profile, boxy look complements the taller boxy structures in its vicinity. This planned WeHo building looks out of left field. But perhaps this is just the beginning of future WeHo, where we'll see more constructions like this, and then this will no longer seem out of place.
R65, if it's "mixed use," then most likely it'll be a combination of condos/apartments and office spaces, with restaurants and retail establishments on the ground and lower floors.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 13, 2019 6:24 PM |
[R77] I hear what you’re saying, in terms of scale, the Broad harmonizes with its neighbors. In the case of this West Hollywood building, it frames the surrounding hills and city to become part of its context, and still be something sculptural and dynamic.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 13, 2019 8:56 PM |
R77 R78 Speaking of which - the prime example of architecture that both challenges our visual understanding of place, structure and function, as well as be perfectly at home, re-defining "at home", in its locus.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 13, 2019 9:14 PM |
This shit reminds me of the Brady Bunch episode where Beebee Gallini wants Mike Brady to design a building shaped like a compact or a powder puff.
Every time I see a goofy building like this, that’s what I imagine. Some dingdong dreaming of a building shaped like a wisp of smoke or the trajectory of buckshot or some garbage.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 14, 2019 12:02 PM |
R80, I think there's a big difference between conceptual design, like the planned WeHo building, and kitsch, which Beebe Gallini's pink powderpuff design idea is. Conceptual is a metaphoric interpretation rather than an a literal one.
This is literal and kitsch:
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 14, 2019 5:52 PM |
I like the Nouvel, Pei,, Koolhaas buildings in Doha, which define their areas, definitely are not mundane. This thing looks out of place, flat-out ludicrous.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 14, 2019 6:03 PM |
This was a missed opportunity. They should have designed a cock-going-in-ass building. It could have been legendary.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 14, 2019 6:36 PM |
People never seem to get riled up about most of the boring, ugly ass crap that goes up around them. Only when something interesting comes along do people notice and get upset.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 14, 2019 6:44 PM |
The trouble began when architects convinced themselves that they were artists more than craftsmen.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 14, 2019 6:49 PM |
Agree with R85. What the entire city of LA needs to ban are these hideous, ornate, cookie-cutter buildings that are billed as "luxury" apartments.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 14, 2019 6:52 PM |
[quote] They should have designed a cock-going-in-ass building. It could have been legendary.
True, and it is in West Hollywood.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 14, 2019 7:42 PM |
This reminds me that back in the 70s, the nearby "Blue Whale" was pretty controversial. L.A. Times just did a retrospective article about it in July when the architect, Cesar Pelli, died.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 14, 2019 7:45 PM |
I like the look of the building but common sense says that is not a design that should be built in an earthquake zone.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 14, 2019 7:52 PM |
They should built this building at OP in/near LAX -- it would go with their futuristic, space theme.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 14, 2019 7:53 PM |
I'm with R37 - the two "structures" are both interesting in their own right but look like a ridiculous "mash-up" in this particular context. It reminds me of a sleek, post and beam, midcentury home being given a tacky 1980's makeover with tudor-themed gingerbread and skirted, tassled, fussy velvet furniture. The two styles do not blend.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 14, 2019 8:17 PM |
So is it art if your first instinct is to laugh at it? When it's not trying to be a comedy?
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 14, 2019 8:42 PM |
The other view of it is less startling to me. And you can see what the darker building is about, glass and greenery.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 14, 2019 8:43 PM |
I think it would be fine with just the curved futuristic building. That part looks cool. The structure with all the greenery, as I've said, looks like the remnants of a decayed bulding that has surrendered to the elements. Not cool.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 14, 2019 8:57 PM |
Seems like a water sucking environmental disaster
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 14, 2019 9:02 PM |
How dystopian.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 14, 2019 9:05 PM |
Seems like part of a post apocalyptic scenery where the C building is a part of an alien spaceship that has crashed to the ground and the other is the remains of a building that has been reclaimed by nature.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 14, 2019 9:27 PM |
"Seems like a water sucking environmental disaster"
They'll use lovely artificial plants. EZ care - all you have to do is dust them once in awhile.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 14, 2019 9:42 PM |
Greywater.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 14, 2019 10:09 PM |
[quote] If Morphosis is so bad, why did Mayne receive a Pritzker?
For the same reason "Crash" received an Oscar and Pearl S. Buck received the Nobel Prize for Literature.
Sometimes even professionals have shitty taste.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 15, 2019 5:31 PM |
I’m all for it. Enough with the bland glass boxes. The US needs more progressive, unique architecture - even at the risk some of it will be considered ugly. Much like many MCM designs.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 15, 2019 6:09 PM |
r101 LA already has some Assyrian architecture.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 15, 2019 6:58 PM |
I couldn't care less about who designed the building. It's hideous
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 15, 2019 7:03 PM |
NIMBYism is for the old. Move into the future.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 15, 2019 7:05 PM |
Companion article about other projects on the Sunset Strip
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 16, 2019 12:16 AM |
R108, I love the first one. Now that's a construction project I will support. The others are nothing special.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 16, 2019 1:53 AM |
[R109] because it’s the most phallic?
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 16, 2019 3:45 AM |
R109 I wonder if that one is supposed to be some kind of interpretation of the Capital Records building?
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 16, 2019 3:59 AM |
Oh dear, they are really going for the futuristic look for L.A.
Some of those projects are
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 16, 2019 4:08 AM |
It's an eye sore! It doesn't even compliment each other. person who designed it must really hate LA or blind or both
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 16, 2019 4:32 AM |
R111, No. I like it because it looks cool, it has movement, and it isn't your typical symmetrical boxy tower with clean lines.
The Frank Gehry design looks like yet another one his melting metal works. How innovative. And the ziggurat style Arts Club building... didn't we see those in the '60s in the South of France?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 16, 2019 6:10 AM |
Douglas Vu should hang his head in shame for this proposed monstrosity.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 16, 2019 6:28 AM |
I prefer the Eastern Columbia Building in downtown LA.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 16, 2019 6:42 AM |
It sure is ugly
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 16, 2019 6:50 AM |
I agree!
That building is grotesque.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 16, 2019 6:53 AM |
The main thing LA has going for it architecturally is modern architecture. To not allow modern interring design is stupid. It will never be a classic city - which is its strength.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 16, 2019 7:12 PM |