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**2019 Official Election Thread**

We’ve got gubernatorial races in Kentucky, Louisiana and Mississippi.

State legislature races in Virginia and New Jersey along with Louisiana and Mississippi

Various local races and measures are on the ballot.

First up: Louisiana

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by Anonymousreply 485November 21, 2019 11:08 AM

Full list:

Three states will hold gubernatorial elections in 2019:

Kentucky: One-term Republican Matt Bevin is seeking re-election. In the May 21 primaries, Bevin held off three opponents to win the Republican primary. He will face Attorney General Andy Beshear, who defeated two challengers in the Democratic primary.[12]

Louisiana: One-term Democrat John Bel Edwards is seeking re-election. On the Republican side, U.S. Rep. Ralph Abraham and businessman Eddie Rispone have declared candidacy,[13] while U.S. Sen. John Neely Kennedy and U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise, widely expected to challenge Edwards, have declined to run.[14]

Mississippi: Two-term Republican Phil Bryant was term-limited in 2019 and therefore ineligible to seek re-election. In the August 6 primary elections, Attorney General Jim Hood won the Democratic primary,[15] and on August 27, Lt.Gov. Tate Reeves defeated Mississippi Supreme Court Chief Justice Bill Waller Jr. to win the Republican nomination.[16]

Legislative

Legislative elections will be held for both houses of the Louisiana Legislature, the Mississippi Legislature, and the Virginia General Assembly, as well as the lower house of the New Jersey Legislature.

Special elections were also held during the year to fill state legislative seats vacated due to retirement, death, resignation, election to another office, or other reasons. As of September 13, 2019, special elections have been set or run for 77 seats — 39 held by Democrats and 38 held by Republicans. As of October 5, 2019, of the 54 special elections held, four seats flipped from Democratic to Republican, one flipped from Republican to Democratic, and one flipped from Republican to Independent. None of these changes impacted partisan control of the state legislature.[17]

Ballot measures

In the U.S. Virgin Islands, a ballot initiative to change how seats in the Legislature of the Virgin Islands are apportioned was defeated due to low voter turnout. A majority of voters approved of the reapportionment plan during the March 30, 2019, special election; however, only about 9 percent of registered voters participated in the election, and a majority of all registered voters was required for the initiative to pass.[18] In Washington state, voters will consider Referendum 88, a veto referendum that would overturn Initiative 1000, which allows for affirmative action policies in the areas of public education, employment, and contracting.[19] In Pennsylvania, voters will consider a constitutional amendment to adopt Marsy's Law protections for crime victims.[20]

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by Anonymousreply 1October 12, 2019 4:38 AM

Mississippi might be a lost cause for Jim Hood (the Democrat) . The state has a pseudo Electoral College requirement to win Governor . If it were purely popular vote Jim Hood is actually the likely winner by a hair margin. Someone had a bright idea to only recently sue in Federal Court that not determining the winner by popular vote was a voting rights violation recently. Any decision would be stayed if decided this early before an election. I'm like ya'll didn't think to do this shit before the primaries?

I live in the greater Memphis area so I can vote in this election, but …. yeah I don't want people to get their hopes up. The Mississippi Delta has most of Mississippi's blue counties. Hood would have to win Madison County and the Gulf Coast if he wants to win. The area I live in is likely to swing his way.

by Anonymousreply 2October 12, 2019 7:59 AM

There is still a few weeks left for people to register and donate.

Kentucky is interesting.

by Anonymousreply 3October 12, 2019 5:04 PM

Well?

by Anonymousreply 4October 12, 2019 7:53 PM

Dems can still win LA.

Now is the time to get interested in 2019 elections.

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by Anonymousreply 5October 14, 2019 9:20 PM

Louisiana is heading for a run-off next month, since nobody got 50%. Democrat Edwards got 47% and the two Republican candidates split the vote with 27% and 24%. So, if the Republican unite around Rispone, who is in the run-off against Edwards, they could win.

by Anonymousreply 6October 14, 2019 9:30 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens in Louisiana. Bel Edwards has decent numbers, although so do the Republicans.

But thus far he has been one the only Southern Democrat success story of the past 4 years. It is very hard these days for Democrats to win statewide in the South, but Bel Edwards has been able to come up with a good winning formula so far.

by Anonymousreply 7October 14, 2019 9:55 PM

Where is Poll Troll?

by Anonymousreply 8October 14, 2019 9:57 PM

I posted right above you, R8. : )

by Anonymousreply 9October 14, 2019 10:07 PM

This is an internal poll, so it needs to be treated with caution, but the lead is wide enough that it could be a goo sign for Bel Edwards:

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Poll: Governor John Bel Edwards leads Eddie Rispone in Louisiana runoff

Oct. 14, 2019

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by Anonymousreply 10October 14, 2019 10:11 PM

Elections are in a couple of weeks. Hopefully there will be more coverage. I bet a lot of people in those states don’t even know there is an election.

by Anonymousreply 11October 15, 2019 2:01 AM

LSU Guy/R6, I think Bel Edwards will probably pull out a win in Louisiana.

One can never say for sure, but he came within just 3 points of 50%, so he can probably pick up the votes to edge out Rispone in the Run Off. There was a lot of animosity between the 2 Republican camps, and even Trump decided not to pick one over the other. So if Bel Edwards can maintain his core vote from the first round, and some of the Republican voters decide not to go to Rispone or pick Bel Edwards instead, Edwards will have the advantage on November 16.

by Anonymousreply 12October 15, 2019 6:26 PM

Thank you poll troll, this thread is slow going but will pick up as we head into voting day in a couple of weeks.

by Anonymousreply 13October 15, 2019 9:40 PM

Kentucky has been putting up an effort to register people to vote this year.

Also, I have been sending the postcards to voters in Kentucky for the last two months reminding them to vote. It seems more people are engaged to turn out now.

by Anonymousreply 14October 15, 2019 10:14 PM

That is very sexy r14.

I love it when people take action instead of spreading memes on social media.

It’s really up to us now. We have to find a way to take back or deplorable relatives.

by Anonymousreply 15October 15, 2019 11:33 PM

Our

by Anonymousreply 16October 15, 2019 11:33 PM

Jim Hood would need to swing 19 House Districts . I see him coming close but failing by 4 districts. Oral hearing to rule this as unconstitutional are being heard this Friday , but I have little hope it will succeed.

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by Anonymousreply 17October 16, 2019 5:41 PM

“That’s because of a long-overlooked provision in the state’s 1890 Constitution. The measure requires candidates for statewide office to win not just a majority of the vote but also a majority of the 122 districts in the state House. If a candidate wins a majority of the statewide vote but not a majority of the districts, the members of the Republican-controlled state House choose who wins the election. If no candidate receives a majority of the vote, the Mississippi House of Representatives picks a winner from the two candidates who received the most votes.”

For the love of god.

by Anonymousreply 18October 16, 2019 6:12 PM

News from Kentucky today.

Democratic canvassers are out in force knocking on doors despite the chill! They are asking people to vote for beshear and reminding people to vote!

They will be at it up until election day.

BTW, this is one of the places old turtle keeps a house - Ft. Mitchell.

by Anonymousreply 19October 16, 2019 11:21 PM

Lots of college kids in Kentucky? Hopefully, they will come out and vote?

by Anonymousreply 20October 17, 2019 4:15 PM

Mississippi has a huge black population and should be democratic but is probably gerrymandered to the teeth.

by Anonymousreply 21October 17, 2019 4:29 PM

One of the challenges of assessing the terrain in Mississippi right now is that there hasn't been a lot of polling of the Governor's race.

The most recent poll from earlier this month has Hood (D) ahead by 3 points, but caution has to be used since it's a Hood-friendly pollster (Hickman Analytics).

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by Anonymousreply 22October 17, 2019 4:43 PM

Yes, r20, but many from out of state so they are not residents.

Just knowing there are canvassers out and about knocking on doors has cheered me up.

by Anonymousreply 23October 17, 2019 10:13 PM

That is how the Kochs ginned up all these deplorables in the first place, by sending out goons from AFP and FraudomWorks door to door. Above all else, these was how the tea party was recruited and sold a ruse.

Door to door is the way to go.

by Anonymousreply 24October 17, 2019 10:16 PM

Its going to take that face to face quality time to deprogram them and offer a better way forward.

by Anonymousreply 25October 17, 2019 10:17 PM

Virginia election officials seeing high absentee voting numbers

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by Anonymousreply 26October 27, 2019 5:57 PM

r26 Is that considered good news for a particular side?

by Anonymousreply 27October 27, 2019 5:58 PM

Elections officials are seeing a spike in interest from students this election season. About 16,000 students have requested to vote with an absentee ballot. Nearly three times as many students have requested absentee ballots this election compared to how many actually turned them in four years ago.

“It’s actually really surprising,” Virginia Commonwealth University student Raelyn Davis said. “Because you wouldn’t think a lot of students know about that.”

by Anonymousreply 28October 27, 2019 5:58 PM

R27, it does not specifically state either way. But I assume more students mean better for Dems which is why that was highlighted here

by Anonymousreply 29October 27, 2019 6:00 PM

Poll Troll can probably answer that.

FYI, The election is just over a week away.

by Anonymousreply 30October 27, 2019 6:02 PM

LA Governor debate this Wednesday

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by Anonymousreply 31October 27, 2019 6:05 PM

Will the Kentucky Governor’s Race Be a Harbinger of the 2020 Presidential Election?

With all eyes on the 2020 campaign, you could be forgiven if you didn’t know that there were a few competitive elections set to be held this November.

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by Anonymousreply 32October 27, 2019 6:08 PM

Close race for Louisiana Governor. Narrow lead for Edwards in the newest poll:

JMC Analytics

Edwards (D) [50%]

Abraham (R) [47%]

[Oct 24-26, 2019, 600 LV]

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by Anonymousreply 33October 29, 2019 8:26 PM

Abraham (R) should be Rispone.

It got miscopied.

by Anonymousreply 34October 29, 2019 8:47 PM

I refuse to get hyped up for this, so I'll go in with zero expectations. Whatever the case, the turd will find some fucking data point to gloat, and I'm already getting enraged just thinking about it. 😩

by Anonymousreply 35October 29, 2019 8:54 PM

Beshear (D) appears to be hanging on to the lead in the Kentucky Governor's race so far.

by Anonymousreply 36October 29, 2019 9:08 PM

Republicans must be sending a ton of money to Louisiana based on the TV ads. Tons of attack ads against Edwards. Pence was just here to pose with Rispone and go to a private fundraiser. And Rispone's only real announced policy is that he wants to repeal Medicaid expansion.

by Anonymousreply 37October 30, 2019 3:02 AM

Yeah, I've noticed that the polling has gotten tighter in Louisiana.

Edwards was the favorite at the start of the fall, but that advantage has diminished. He still appears to have a small edge, but he could lose. Too close to call.

The surprise this year is that the Kentucky Governor's race is going well for the Dems so far.

by Anonymousreply 38October 30, 2019 4:26 AM

Edwards holding onto a 3-4 point lead in the latest Louisiana poll:

OCTOBER 30, 2019

Edgewater Research/|My People Vote

Edwards (D) 50.3%

Rispone (R) 46.6%

[quote]The survey finds that there are racial, partisan, geographical, and age category cleavages among Louisiana voters’ opinions on candidate preference.

[Oct 28, 2019, 722 LV]

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by Anonymousreply 39November 1, 2019 10:55 PM

You Virginia people need to get out there tommorow. Time for VA to officially become a blue state.

by Anonymousreply 40November 5, 2019 12:46 AM

Key races to watch Tuesday in Kentucky, Mississippi and Virginia

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by Anonymousreply 41November 5, 2019 2:52 AM

'What's on the ballot?' cheat sheet by Daniel Nichanian:

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by Anonymousreply 42November 5, 2019 3:17 AM

Heather French Henry, a Democrat, is running for Secretary of State in Kentucky.

Henry was Miss America in 2000, a position she used to advocate for homeless veterans’ needs. She is the daughter of a Vietnam War veteran, and is the former commissioner and deputy commissioner of the Kentucky Department of Veterans Affairs. She served in that department first under Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear, then under Republican Gov. Matt Bevin.

She is married to former Lt. Gov. Steve Henry.

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by Anonymousreply 43November 5, 2019 4:06 AM

New York City will have a ballot question on adopting Ranked Choice Voting for primary elections. No more primary run offs, if it passes. The General Election will still feature the fusion ballot, with multiple party endorsements of candidates.

by Anonymousreply 44November 5, 2019 4:14 AM

Happy Election Day

by Anonymousreply 45November 5, 2019 10:35 AM

Today is the day, kids. Don’t let us down.

by Anonymousreply 46November 5, 2019 11:19 AM

Kentuckians, get out, repudiate Trump and vote for Beshear.

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by Anonymousreply 47November 5, 2019 11:54 AM

Democracy bump.

by Anonymousreply 48November 5, 2019 12:49 PM

It would be nice if Kentucky kicks out their embarrassing asshole governor.

by Anonymousreply 49November 5, 2019 5:27 PM

Beshear is leading in the most recent Kentucky polls, but we'll have to wait until tonight to know for sure.

by Anonymousreply 50November 5, 2019 5:43 PM

When was the last time Virginia had a blue trifecta? Did Trump fuck it all up, or does the current state predate him?

by Anonymousreply 51November 5, 2019 8:43 PM

Voted in Virginia this morning. No competitive races, but solid turnout. Petition-gathering outside on gerrymandering and casinos.

by Anonymousreply 52November 5, 2019 8:46 PM

You have to go back to 1993 when Democrats controlled the trifecta in VA r51.

by Anonymousreply 53November 5, 2019 8:54 PM

r53 Well, damn. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 54November 5, 2019 9:01 PM

Kentucky Governor results:

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by Anonymousreply 55November 5, 2019 10:05 PM

Early results from KY:

50.8% Bevin (R)

47.7% Beshear (D)

by Anonymousreply 56November 5, 2019 10:18 PM

I’m in Virginia, so I made sure to vote today. I’m hoping the Democrats can win both houses in the legislature this time, we need to cement VA as a blue state.

by Anonymousreply 57November 5, 2019 10:24 PM

I hope Kentucky will not shoot themselves. In the foot with Republicans, again.

by Anonymousreply 58November 5, 2019 10:27 PM

KY:

Lexington now reporting, so Beshear moves into the lead:

51.2% Beshear (D)

47.4% Bevin (R)

by Anonymousreply 59November 5, 2019 10:27 PM

Thanks Poll Troll. You are invaluable. Fingers crossed.

by Anonymousreply 60November 5, 2019 10:37 PM

Still a close race in KY, R60. Bevin back in the lead.

But nothing in from Louisville and very little from Lexington, so lots of votes to come in for Beshear.

by Anonymousreply 61November 5, 2019 10:49 PM

7 p.m polls now closed in KY.

by Anonymousreply 62November 5, 2019 10:59 PM

David Wasserman's twitter analysis indicates he thinks things look good for Bevin (R) though he cautions it is still early.

Fucking Kentucky.

by Anonymousreply 63November 5, 2019 11:07 PM

Taniel reports that Bevin has improved his margins in the rural counties from 2015, but that Beshear has improved Democratic margins in the cities:

[quote]A significant improvement from 2015 for Democrats in Fayette County (=Lexington) with nearly all precincts now in, per local media, while in smaller, rural counties the GOP is progressing. (Stop me if you've heard this before.)

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by Anonymousreply 64November 5, 2019 11:10 PM

It’s fucking Kentucky, I can’t imagine a Democrat will will, but I’m hoping.

by Anonymousreply 65November 5, 2019 11:11 PM

***will win***

by Anonymousreply 66November 5, 2019 11:12 PM

Think positive but don't hold your breath. KY, MS and LA are solid, solid Red.

by Anonymousreply 67November 5, 2019 11:17 PM

Nate Cohn:

[quote]I'd say Bevin was doing what he needs if I was looking at completed rural areas. But some of the early urban/suburban numbers--admittedly incomplete--do keep me interested. The GOP margin in Boone is cut in half right now w/50 precincts in

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by Anonymousreply 68November 5, 2019 11:17 PM

Turnout up in Fayette County (Lexington):

[quote]70,000 people voted in Fayette County (Lexington) in 2015.

[quote]We're at 109,000 votes now, with 96% reporting, per @Lex18News.

[quote](Turnout is increasing elsewhere too; this is slightly more than we're seeing elsewhere so far.)

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by Anonymousreply 69November 5, 2019 11:24 PM

Wasserman

[Quote]. So far Bevin doing well in central KY but underperforming in eastern/coal/burbs.

[Quote] There are some interesting cross-currents right now. #KYGOV looks like it could take a while to call...

by Anonymousreply 70November 5, 2019 11:24 PM

Wasserman:

[quote]Perry (a classic coal county) 100% in: Bevin (R) won it by 9% but our benchmarks said he prob needed to win it by 19%. So far Beshear (D) is impressing w/ his numbers in eastern KY and Cincinnati burbs. #KYGOV

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by Anonymousreply 71November 5, 2019 11:32 PM

Two things that will happen if the Dems win KY: Donald Trump is going to have a Twitter aneurysm and Mitch McConnell is going to wet his bed.

by Anonymousreply 72November 5, 2019 11:35 PM

As Wasserman & Taniel point out, the counties in Kentucky are not following the expected pattern so far, so it makes it more difficult to call than expected.

by Anonymousreply 73November 5, 2019 11:43 PM

I’m curious about how Washington will vote re affirmative action.

by Anonymousreply 74November 5, 2019 11:45 PM

So will Russia swing this suddenly in the GOP direction?

by Anonymousreply 75November 5, 2019 11:49 PM

Wasserman:

[quote]Oldham Co. (Louisville burbs) 100% in: Bevin (R) needed to win by 9% per my benchmarks. Bevin (R) wins it by 5%. Good news for Beshear (D) there.

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by Anonymousreply 76November 5, 2019 11:50 PM

R75, probably in some races.

by Anonymousreply 77November 5, 2019 11:55 PM

Nate Cohn:

[quote]Those Dem gains in the metro areas are holding, even as the count progresses. I remain very interested

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by Anonymousreply 78November 5, 2019 11:57 PM

Poll Troll, do you know who Hicks is taking votes from? He's only getting 2% but that's likely to be greater than the margin of victory between Beshear and Bevin.

by Anonymousreply 79November 5, 2019 11:59 PM

[Quote]Bullitt Co. (Louisville suburbs) 100% in: Bevin (R) needed to win it by 16% per my benchmarks. He only won it by 12%. Beshear (D) on a hot streak right now. #KYGOV

[Quote]It's been an awful long time since Dems got some welcome election results out of coalfields but tonight might break that streak. #KYGOV

by Anonymousreply 80November 5, 2019 11:59 PM

The Virginia Senate has flipped. Democrats take control.

by Anonymousreply 81November 6, 2019 12:00 AM

*SD-10*

[quote]60% reporting in SD-10 and Dem Ghazala Hashmi leads GOP incumbent Glen Sturtevant 58-42. She'd be first Muslim woman to serve in the chamber

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by Anonymousreply 82November 6, 2019 12:01 AM

*KY*:

[quote]Some really impressive numbers for Beshear (D) in Northern Kentucky when you take Boone/Kenton/Campbell as a whole. Thinking Bevin (R) is in some trouble. #KYGOV

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by Anonymousreply 83November 6, 2019 12:03 AM

Democrats greatly underestimate the extent to which abortion matters in the South and Midwest in turning out R votes, and making some centrist voters reject Democrat. I saw the pro-lifer Bat Signal go up for Bevin a couple of days ago. KY is around 57% pro-life. That’s what keeps it Red.

by Anonymousreply 84November 6, 2019 12:04 AM

Hi, R79.

Hicks is a Libertarian, so presumably he is more likely to take votes from Bevin (R).

by Anonymousreply 85November 6, 2019 12:05 AM

Democrats have won virginia Senate

by Anonymousreply 86November 6, 2019 12:05 AM

Thanks, PT. It's nice to have a third-party candidate be a spoiler on the other side, for a change!

by Anonymousreply 87November 6, 2019 12:06 AM

Which site has the most current and accurate live results?

by Anonymousreply 88November 6, 2019 12:08 AM

The candidate Trump endorsed, Geary Higgins, has lost in VA Senate District 13.

by Anonymousreply 89November 6, 2019 12:08 AM

Virginia is almost a blue trifecta. Wow.

House of Delegates next.

by Anonymousreply 90November 6, 2019 12:11 AM

Virginia

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by Anonymousreply 91November 6, 2019 12:11 AM

House of Delegates doesn’t look good yet.

by Anonymousreply 92November 6, 2019 12:13 AM

But that's separation of politics difference between federal and state r84.

You can be a a really conservative Democrat or a really liberal Republican as a local politician, but if you are part of national politics though it doesn't really work that way. Not anymore.

by Anonymousreply 93November 6, 2019 12:13 AM
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by Anonymousreply 94November 6, 2019 12:16 AM

WASSERMAN CALLS IT.

Beshear (D) wins Kentucky.

by Anonymousreply 95November 6, 2019 12:17 AM

Wasserman projects that the Democratic candidate for Kentucky governor will win.

[quote]I've seen enough. Projection: Andy Beshear (D) has defeated Gov. Matt Bevin (R) in #KYGOV.

by Anonymousreply 96November 6, 2019 12:17 AM

Yup. Beshear has retaken the lead in Kentucky. 75% of the vote now in.

49.6% Andy Beshear Dem 550,335

48.4% Matt Bevin* GOP 536,388

by Anonymousreply 97November 6, 2019 12:18 AM

Great night so far. Hope Cheeto tells himself everything is fine. Don’t want him moderating suddenly.

by Anonymousreply 98November 6, 2019 12:18 AM

Last minute Russian surge in KY?

by Anonymousreply 99November 6, 2019 12:19 AM

83% now in for KY. Big bump for Beshear.

50.3% Andy Beshear Dem 609,188

47.7% Matt Bevin* GOP 577,427

by Anonymousreply 100November 6, 2019 12:19 AM

People are sick of the cult running the country.

by Anonymousreply 101November 6, 2019 12:20 AM

I am super happy about this, but Governors races really are about local politics r101. Not everything is about Washington.

People hated Blevin's Kentucky.

by Anonymousreply 102November 6, 2019 12:22 AM

Alright, what is going on with the Virginia House?

by Anonymousreply 103November 6, 2019 12:26 AM

NY Times live election results in Virginia.

Senate:

Democrats: 11 won; 12 lead

Republicans: 4 won; 13 lead

House:

Democrats: 27 won; 26 lead

Republicans: 11 won; 35 lead

Independent: 1 lead

Must have had a Democratic city/county result come in, as that's a significant shift to the Democrats in that latest update.

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by Anonymousreply 104November 6, 2019 12:26 AM

@courierjournal 96% of Jefferson/Louisville in:

Beshear: 66.9% Bevin: 31.5% 95,000-vote margin (!!!) for Beshear so far. Conway's final margin was 37k in 2015.

I think Beshear's got this. #kygov

by Anonymousreply 105November 6, 2019 12:29 AM

Nice, r104. That’s excellent news.

Twitter is bumming me out. Conservatives saying the Virginia elections are rigged just because there was a technical difficulty on the part of the election commission to broadcast the ongoing counts.

by Anonymousreply 106November 6, 2019 12:30 AM

Democrat Shelly Simonds has defeated Republican Yancy in Virginia, 58% to 40%. This is a flip and it is noteworthy because this race was a tie two years ago and was settled with a coin toss that Yancy won.

(It's also noteworthy because it wasn't really a tie; Simonds won.)

by Anonymousreply 107November 6, 2019 12:36 AM

Looks like Shelley Simonds (D) just flipped a seat in the VA House. She had a heart breaking defeat last election.

by Anonymousreply 108November 6, 2019 12:37 AM

They hold too many damn elections in this country, elections should only take place every two years that is it. When I lived in Michigan they would put millage increases on your property taxes on the ballot in off year elections when virtually no one voted so they would pass, never during a general election. No wonder so few people vote. No elections in off years.

by Anonymousreply 109November 6, 2019 12:38 AM

KENTUCKY (91.7% of precincts reporting)

49.7% Andy Beshear Dem 662,833

48.4% Matt Bevin* GOP 645,149

by Anonymousreply 110November 6, 2019 12:39 AM

Boris is hard at work hacking KY’s system. Last minute...

by Anonymousreply 111November 6, 2019 12:40 AM

Democrats have now flipped 2 seats in the VA House. (Martha Mugler is second)

If they hold onto their existing seats they flip the chamber.

by Anonymousreply 112November 6, 2019 12:40 AM

[quote] Conservatives saying the Virginia elections

Conservatives think any election they aren't likely to win are rigged and it is getting old. Most elections lately that have been proven to be rigged are rigged by conservatives, like in NC.

by Anonymousreply 113November 6, 2019 12:41 AM

They're bitching that their gerrymandering, bully tactics, lies and dirty tricks didn't work is all, r106.

Fuck the GOP with a full, rusty chainsaw.

by Anonymousreply 114November 6, 2019 12:41 AM

I have read inn an unsubstantiated social media post that most of the ballots yet to be tallied in the KY gov election are in a largely Democratic county.

by Anonymousreply 115November 6, 2019 12:41 AM

R111, the Kentucky race is certainly very tight, although Beshear is expected to prevail.

by Anonymousreply 116November 6, 2019 12:41 AM

I wish we could make KY blue through colonization from the coasts.

by Anonymousreply 117November 6, 2019 12:43 AM

Cook political report just called it for Beshear.

by Anonymousreply 118November 6, 2019 12:43 AM

If Bevin loses in Kentucky Trump will tweet,

[quote] Bevin ran a terrible campaign, but he would have lost even worse if I hadn't had campaigned for him.

by Anonymousreply 119November 6, 2019 12:44 AM

Va. Senate officially now Democratic.

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by Anonymousreply 120November 6, 2019 12:45 AM

Trump campaigned for Bevin at a rally last night, so it will be interesting to see the analysis of that.

by Anonymousreply 121November 6, 2019 12:45 AM

Nail biters everywhere....ugh

by Anonymousreply 122November 6, 2019 12:46 AM

Let's remember what Trump said about the KY race

[Quote]Trump campaigned for Matt Bevin in Kentucky last night and said to the crowd, "You gotta vote because if you lose, it sends a really bad message. It just sends a bad and they're going to build it up ... You can't let that happen to me."

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by Anonymousreply 123November 6, 2019 12:46 AM

House of Delegates VA could be 53 dem!

by Anonymousreply 124November 6, 2019 12:46 AM

I fear Cheeto’s tantrum.

by Anonymousreply 125November 6, 2019 12:47 AM

Beshear said that he would restore the voting rights of 140,000 people in KY, so if the Senate race is close next year, that could make things interesting.

by Anonymousreply 126November 6, 2019 12:47 AM

c'mon Virginia! Woohoo!

by Anonymousreply 127November 6, 2019 12:47 AM

From the Washington Post, they're covering Virginia Canada-style. Democrats now leading or elected in 53 Delegate seats.

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by Anonymousreply 128November 6, 2019 12:49 AM

Good coverage on CNN.

by Anonymousreply 129November 6, 2019 12:49 AM

Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus.

by Anonymousreply 130November 6, 2019 12:49 AM

Canada style?

by Anonymousreply 131November 6, 2019 12:49 AM

Yes it's too early to call it, but it looks very good that Dems will flip control of VA house.

by Anonymousreply 132November 6, 2019 12:50 AM

Anything from Mississippi or Louisiana, poll troll?

by Anonymousreply 133November 6, 2019 12:50 AM

R128: Out of 100 I forgo to add. And in the 40 seat Senate, Democrats leading or elected in 22.

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by Anonymousreply 134November 6, 2019 12:51 AM

Virginia has a Dem trifecta. Finally. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

by Anonymousreply 135November 6, 2019 12:51 AM

I fear violence from the cult.

by Anonymousreply 136November 6, 2019 12:52 AM

R131: In Canadian elections, the media gives the total number of seats as leading or elected, combining actual victories with current vote leads in races not yet called. WaPo is doing the same for VA tonight at the links I posted. Look at the squares at the top of each page.

by Anonymousreply 137November 6, 2019 12:52 AM

Does anyone know what the automatic recount threshold is for Kentucky? Right now Beshear has a <1% lead.

by Anonymousreply 138November 6, 2019 12:52 AM

R133, Louisiana's runoff doesn't take place until later this month.

The Republican currently has a lead in Mississippi, but only 1% of the vote is in.

by Anonymousreply 139November 6, 2019 12:52 AM

@courierjournal 96% of Jefferson/Louisville in:

Beshear: 66.9% Bevin: 31.5% 95,000-vote margin (!!!) for Beshear so far. Conway's final margin was 37k in 2015.

I think Beshear's got this. #kygov

by Anonymousreply 140November 6, 2019 12:52 AM

I would have expected the independent MS candidate Lickingbottom to have a higher percentage of votes, but still of course, at the bottom.

by Anonymousreply 141November 6, 2019 12:53 AM

Geary Higgins was apparently the only candidate Trump endorsed, and he's lost in Virginia Senate District 13.

by Anonymousreply 142November 6, 2019 12:54 AM

Again -- The Cook report called it for Beshear. They're the best in the business.

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by Anonymousreply 143November 6, 2019 12:54 AM

Looking at the current stats I'm confident that it's going to hold in KY. Bevin is such a piece of shit. This is delicious.

by Anonymousreply 144November 6, 2019 12:55 AM

If Bevin makes a magical comeback in the last second, we need to start rioting now to save 2020 because it will be from real-time cheating and will be a practice session for Trump.

by Anonymousreply 145November 6, 2019 12:58 AM

My hair is standing on end for some reason. I'm so glad.

by Anonymousreply 146November 6, 2019 12:58 AM

.6% difference now. 97% in KY gov.

by Anonymousreply 147November 6, 2019 12:59 AM

R145 That is what I am afraid of! He seems to be inching closer.

by Anonymousreply 148November 6, 2019 12:59 AM

I voted for Jim Hood today and omg there are so many damn Democrats running in local elections (unopposed too !!) . Granted I'm in the Northern Delta region ( a blue/purple region) but I was not expecting so many white men to be running as Democrats.

@PollTroll you are something special , and Datalounge is lucky to have you :) .

Have some tea !

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by Anonymousreply 149November 6, 2019 12:59 AM

Boris is hacking at lightening speed.

by Anonymousreply 150November 6, 2019 12:59 AM

So good

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by Anonymousreply 151November 6, 2019 1:00 AM

I hope and pray that Mitch will wet his bed after he shits himself.

by Anonymousreply 152November 6, 2019 1:00 AM

CNN 99 prevent in. .8% difference.

by Anonymousreply 153November 6, 2019 1:00 AM

OMG KY recount? They're going to cheat.

by Anonymousreply 154November 6, 2019 1:01 AM

Cheeto won KY by 30 points. Holy crap.

by Anonymousreply 155November 6, 2019 1:03 AM

R133 our elections are decided by a quasi-electoral college vote. It won't matter who wins popular vote, but rather who wins the most house districts. We won't know until 100% of the vote is in and it matters more how many districts are won. If Hood loses he will only lose by ~8 districts based on my random talking to locals. He's gonna flip a few counties to blue, but I'm hoping his run turns the state legislature a bit more blue .

by Anonymousreply 156November 6, 2019 1:03 AM

Why would Louisiana vote anything but Democratic? Short memories?

by Anonymousreply 157November 6, 2019 1:03 AM

Thanks, R149. : )

Reeves (R) currently has a lead in Mississippi over Hood (D), but it's narrow.

by Anonymousreply 158November 6, 2019 1:03 AM

There'll be a recount if the vote difference is under 1%, true?

by Anonymousreply 159November 6, 2019 1:04 AM

[quote] There'll be a recount if the vote difference is under 1%, true?

Where are you getting that? I am not coming up with that with my google fu.

by Anonymousreply 160November 6, 2019 1:06 AM

No automatic recount but a candidate can request one in court. Just said on CNN.

by Anonymousreply 161November 6, 2019 1:09 AM

Thanks to everyone for reporting in from all over the US. Big thanks to Poll Troll for the unequaled coverage and commentary. Celebrating in Virginia tonight!

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by Anonymousreply 162November 6, 2019 1:09 AM

r160 Try Ballotpedia's page on Kentucky elections

[quote] In general elections, any candidate for state, county, district, or city office can request a recount, with the exception of candidates for the offices of governor, lieutenant governor, and General Assembly member. In these latter cases, a candidate who has won at least 25 percent of the votes cast for the successful candidate for the office in question can contest the election, which entails a recount. Candidates are liable for the costs associated with a recount

by Anonymousreply 163November 6, 2019 1:09 AM

CNN site is showing 99% of the votes in for KY race. Beshear up by almost 10,000.

by Anonymousreply 164November 6, 2019 1:11 AM

Korncki on MSNBC saying Bevin has no path to victory

by Anonymousreply 165November 6, 2019 1:13 AM

Kornacki

by Anonymousreply 166November 6, 2019 1:13 AM

Kornacki is looking real HOT tonight!

by Anonymousreply 167November 6, 2019 1:14 AM

There are a few small rural counties in Kentucky with votes left, but that's it.

by Anonymousreply 168November 6, 2019 1:14 AM

Numbers just changed. Beshear still up by over 7,000.

by Anonymousreply 169November 6, 2019 1:14 AM

And there is no automatic recount under KY law, as R163 notes.

by Anonymousreply 170November 6, 2019 1:14 AM

Conservatives will look at the Kentucky results map and see more red counties than blue and claim they won.

by Anonymousreply 171November 6, 2019 1:15 AM

What is interesting in the governor's race in Mississippi is that Jim Hood has more votes than Jay Hughes (the Dem. candidate for Lt. Governor). I knew he was going to siphon some Republican support, but I didn't expect by the margin he is doing. Hughes practically can't win ( more than 30,000 votes divide he and Hoseman) .

by Anonymousreply 172November 6, 2019 1:15 AM

The grey box on the WaPo House of Delegates link is for a Republican running a write-in campaign because he was too stupid to file the paperwork in time to appear on the ballot. Unfortunately, his dumbass looks likely to win.

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by Anonymousreply 173November 6, 2019 1:16 AM

9:15 PROJECTION: Clint Jenkins (D) defeats incumbent Chris Jones (R).

Latest: DEM 50 (+4), GOP 35, 15 to go

by Anonymousreply 174November 6, 2019 1:16 AM

Republicans cheat and steal, always.

by Anonymousreply 175November 6, 2019 1:17 AM

MSNBC Called it!!!

by Anonymousreply 176November 6, 2019 1:17 AM

NBC calls it in KY.

by Anonymousreply 177November 6, 2019 1:18 AM

THANK YOU, KENTUCKY!!!!

by Anonymousreply 178November 6, 2019 1:18 AM

MSNBC just called it for Beshear.

by Anonymousreply 179November 6, 2019 1:18 AM

Sorry, Boris. Our servers were protected tonight!

by Anonymousreply 180November 6, 2019 1:19 AM

R173 LOL!!! bitch you damn near choked me on my tea xD!!!

by Anonymousreply 181November 6, 2019 1:19 AM

Now next year vote out Moscow Mitch Kentucky.

by Anonymousreply 182November 6, 2019 1:19 AM

The Democrats are now projected to take control of the Virginia House!! Democrats will now control the legislature and the redistricting process.

by Anonymousreply 183November 6, 2019 1:19 AM

Dems won in VA on the district maps that the Gop drew in 2011.

by Anonymousreply 184November 6, 2019 1:20 AM

Wasserman on Mississippi:

[quote]If Jim Hood (D) is to have any chance vs. Tate Reeves (R), I believe he needs to combine his appeal to ancestral Dems in the northeast w/ overperformance in two key suburban counties: Madison and DeSoto.

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by Anonymousreply 185November 6, 2019 1:20 AM

IS there a livestream for MSNBC ? I have a firestick with limited access to MSNBC :(.

by Anonymousreply 186November 6, 2019 1:20 AM

Beads of sweat must be pouring down McConnell's flappy turkey neck. If Bevin can lose in a close election surely he knows he's in jeopardy next year

by Anonymousreply 187November 6, 2019 1:21 AM

I'm watching MSNBC on YouTube TV.

by Anonymousreply 188November 6, 2019 1:21 AM

Is Trump screaming on Twitter yet?

by Anonymousreply 189November 6, 2019 1:22 AM

I'm sure Bevin will ask for a recount but no way were 6000 votes all counted wrongly.

by Anonymousreply 190November 6, 2019 1:22 AM

McConnell should be shitting himself about now.

by Anonymousreply 191November 6, 2019 1:22 AM

Thanks for turning out to vote, DLers.

by Anonymousreply 192November 6, 2019 1:22 AM

I would have bet money Beshears would lose. This is a great sign for 2020.

by Anonymousreply 193November 6, 2019 1:24 AM

I credit our fabulous Poll troll for Beshear's victory!

by Anonymousreply 194November 6, 2019 1:24 AM

^YES! YES! YES!!!! All hail Poll Troll!

by Anonymousreply 195November 6, 2019 1:25 AM

Trump is going to be so mad because you know some petty tv hosts like Lawrence O'Donnell are going to run the clip of Trump last night saying he hoped Kentucky would reelect Bevin not to make him look bad for campaigning for him lol

by Anonymousreply 196November 6, 2019 1:25 AM

It's hard to believe VA is the same state Bush carried twice. Now Trump probably won't even bother to campaign there.

by Anonymousreply 197November 6, 2019 1:26 AM

What Wasserman said @ R185 I said last month @ R2. Greater Memphis area is Desoto and Tunica County. The Delta is the Northeast region. It's reliably blue. The majority of the counties that vote blue are on or near the MS River. Warren County's Dem candidates are doing well. It's a purple county, so Hood will do well there. If Hood can take 10% of Rankin county's votes he should win. Basically 10 counties decide our election. 3 in the North, 2 in the south and the rest in the middle. Rankin and Hinds cancel each other out.

by Anonymousreply 198November 6, 2019 1:26 AM

The pettier the better!

by Anonymousreply 199November 6, 2019 1:26 AM

I thought that I had read that the courts in Mississippi are poised to overturn the house district majority requirement?

by Anonymousreply 200November 6, 2019 1:26 AM

Democrats now have control of congressional lines in VA for the next decade.

That's an even bigger win than KY.

by Anonymousreply 201November 6, 2019 1:26 AM

Was Kentucky growing more Democratic demographically, or was this just people sick of Bevins?

Are tech people moving to KY?

by Anonymousreply 202November 6, 2019 1:27 AM

2015 Kentucky Governor's race:

Matt Bevin: 511,374

Jack Conway: 426,620

Drew Curtis: 35,597

[bold]Total turnout: 973,591[/bold]

Tonight's Kentucky race (with 99% reporting):

Beshear: 710,862

Bevin: 705,125

Hicks: 28,439

[bold]Total turnout: 1,444,426[/bold]

Nearly a 50% increase in votes over the election four years ago.

by Anonymousreply 203November 6, 2019 1:28 AM

Virginia could be 54 Dem, 45 cult in the House!

by Anonymousreply 204November 6, 2019 1:28 AM

R200: A federal judge has ruled that MS's Governors election system is likely unconstitutional, but has declined to rule that it actually is.

by Anonymousreply 205November 6, 2019 1:29 AM

Well not if you live in Kentucky I imagine ;) R201.

But yes for national politics the VA win is the bigger story, now Dems control the congressional lines in that state.

by Anonymousreply 206November 6, 2019 1:29 AM

WELCOME GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY!

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by Anonymousreply 207November 6, 2019 1:29 AM

Could someone predict which particular result Trump will use tomorrow to gloat? In other words, any good news for him today?

by Anonymousreply 208November 6, 2019 1:30 AM

R202. No. Practically every Republican has won their race except the Governor one. Bevin was just a real asshole. Forced the state to be RTW and really fucked up the ACA and Ky was one of the few places where the implementation was done well and people liked it.

by Anonymousreply 209November 6, 2019 1:30 AM

This thread has my mussy a-tinglin'.

by Anonymousreply 210November 6, 2019 1:30 AM

R200 that's a partial truth. What the judge wisely decided was to stay his own decision knowing it would be appealed and automatically stayed. He will rule on the "clearly unconstitutional law" after the election is finalized.

by Anonymousreply 211November 6, 2019 1:30 AM

I fear Cheeto's rants for some reason. It's new with me.

by Anonymousreply 212November 6, 2019 1:31 AM

Never thought I could add "election in Kentucky" to my list of reasons not to just end it all.

by Anonymousreply 213November 6, 2019 1:32 AM

Andy Beshear has BDF

by Anonymousreply 214November 6, 2019 1:32 AM

[quote]It's hard to believe VA is the same state Bush carried twice. Now Trump probably won't even bother to campaign there.

Yes, Virginia has changed dramatically over the past decade. Voted twice for Obama in '08 & '12, then for Hillary in '16.

Plus 2 Democratic Senators, a Democratic Governor and a Democratic House & Senate.

Back in the 1990's, even Bill Clinton, a Southern Democrat, didn't win Virginia. Large growth in the Washington suburbs, particularly around Richmond, has ended Virginia's former status as a red state in rapid time.

by Anonymousreply 215November 6, 2019 1:32 AM

[quote]Was Kentucky growing more Democratic demographically, or was this just people sick of Bevins?

The rest of the Kentucky contests (Treasurer, Secretary of State, Attorney General, etc.) went to Republicans, so it's likely more that they were sick of Bevins.

by Anonymousreply 216November 6, 2019 1:32 AM

A minor thing.

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by Anonymousreply 217November 6, 2019 1:33 AM

Oh yeah I grew up in Northern VA and it's really super different now. Somehow things just boomed here. Lots of diversity, activity, energy. Amazon coming locks it in.

by Anonymousreply 218November 6, 2019 1:35 AM

Harry Enten's analysis of Kentucky:

[quote]Trump's approval rating is quite high in KY. The state is trending red even on the state level... And yet, here we are with Beshear more than holding his own. Bevin is a bad politician and Beshear is a good one... Candidates matter.

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by Anonymousreply 219November 6, 2019 1:35 AM

Per WaPo and the AP, 21 Democrats are elected out of 40 seats, so it's official, they have the VA Commonwealth Senate majority.

Let's not also forget for KY, that Steve Beshear is the son of Andy Beshar, the popular Democrat that Bevin replaced when he retired 4 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 220November 6, 2019 1:36 AM

[quote]Was Kentucky growing more Democratic demographically, or was this just people sick of Bevins?

I'd say it was healthcare. If you remember Beshear's daddy was a big pusher of ObamaCare. In fact, Kentucky was the star of ObamaCare with its KYNECT. So many people received healthcare that had never had it before and they LOVED it! But, McConnell and Bevin campaigned on getting rid of ObamaCare--which sounded good to Kentuckians since they hated the black guy. But, they never connected that ObamaCare and KYNECT were the same thing. Bevin went in with a hammer to dismantle ObamaCare and Kentuckians put up a great fight--especially, when there were no replacements for healthcare.

PEOPLE WANT HEALTHCARE!

by Anonymousreply 221November 6, 2019 1:36 AM

In Kansas City, with 50 per cent of precincts in, 70 % Yes 30% No on changing the name of MLK Boulevard back to its original name of The Paseo Blvd.

by Anonymousreply 222November 6, 2019 1:37 AM

R216, Bevins was very much a Trump proxy in terms of his combative, rather sadistic personality. That deep red Kentucky did not like him personally seems telling.

by Anonymousreply 223November 6, 2019 1:37 AM

R220: And I reversed teh names, Andy is the son of Steve.

OH, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 224November 6, 2019 1:37 AM

Did they destroy KYNECT? What a waste.

by Anonymousreply 225November 6, 2019 1:37 AM

Yes, WeatherFairy is correct. The Beshear name played a role tonight. Son of a former Governor and current Attorney General.

by Anonymousreply 226November 6, 2019 1:38 AM

It was called out above but one of Virginia's top poll watchers has called the Virginia House results:

[quote]CALL: Democrats have flipped the House of Delegates

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by Anonymousreply 227November 6, 2019 1:38 AM

Ugh, R222. WTF. Is that in Kansas or Missouri? I get confused.

by Anonymousreply 228November 6, 2019 1:38 AM

I'm not sure about adorkable Harry Enten's analysis at r219 in so far as it doesn't take in the huge increase in turnout since the last gubernatorial election. Would so many more come out because Bevin is a bad campaigner and is disliked?

by Anonymousreply 229November 6, 2019 1:39 AM

9:33pm. With 72 of 168 precincts reporting (38%), #CLT Charlotte Mayor:

Vi Lyles = 36,294 David M Rice = 9,876

@WBTV_News #NCPol

by Anonymousreply 230November 6, 2019 1:39 AM

[quote]Did they destroy KYNECT? What a waste.

Almost. But, now that Beshear is back... a Beshear, anyway. They can repair it and build upon it.

by Anonymousreply 231November 6, 2019 1:40 AM

Trump was there stumping for him last night.

Ha ha ha hahahahahaha.

Choke on it and die, trumptards.

by Anonymousreply 232November 6, 2019 1:40 AM

People on Twitter reporting that Foxnews is not covering the election at all. Is this true?

by Anonymousreply 233November 6, 2019 1:41 AM

And now for some observations from New Jersey.

Democrats hold the State Assembly (they where never gonna lose it).

The State Senate was not up for election.

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by Anonymousreply 234November 6, 2019 1:41 AM

Bevin's unpopularity can't be discounted as a factor, but Trump was there YESTERDAY trying to make this thing a referendum on impeachment. So this blows that up as a political strategy. It's also the case that, had Bevin won, the GOP and sympathetic pundits (cough Chuck Todd cough) would have been rushing to proclaim that impeachment is a political loser for Dems.

I would definitely caution anyone, though, from taking this as a signal that Moscow Mitch is suddenly vulnerable. He's much more entrenched than Bevin, and will have access to unlimited campaign funds.

by Anonymousreply 235November 6, 2019 1:41 AM

Trumptards looking like shit in Virginia too.

Good times.

by Anonymousreply 236November 6, 2019 1:42 AM

Wasserman has also now called the Virginia House:

[quote]Projection: Democrats have picked up control of the VA House of Delegates. They'll have a majority for the first time since 1999. #VALEG

by Anonymousreply 237November 6, 2019 1:42 AM

R228 KC Missouri and the name change petition originated within the black community, specifically those that live on the street, So the optics may be bad unless you look at the real story.

by Anonymousreply 238November 6, 2019 1:42 AM

For the person upthread looking for a link.

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by Anonymousreply 239November 6, 2019 1:43 AM

It will be interesting to see what happens in the Louisiana Governor's runoff on November 16.

Edwards (D) has a narrow lead in the current polls over Rispone (R), but it could be as tight as Kentucky.

by Anonymousreply 240November 6, 2019 1:43 AM

Lol ~14% of the precincts reporting and Hood is only down ~10,000 votes. Hughes is still down more than 20,000 votes and Lynn Fitch has essentially won. None of the other Democrats in the statewide vote have close enough margins to win.

It looks like Hood is have a Beto effect. I think Harris County elected a ton of black female judges as a result of his run. In Madison county (which is slightly red but really purple) a lot of the Democratic candidates have massive leads. The numbers go by too quickly for me to post in their exact numbers, but it looks like Madison County will be blue which is an actual good sign for 2020 but an even better sign for 2024.

by Anonymousreply 241November 6, 2019 1:43 AM

Virginia changed because of demographic change. We need to do that in Texas. It'll take another twenty years but it may indeed happen.

by Anonymousreply 242November 6, 2019 1:45 AM

This looks like it is a Beshear victory in Kentucky not a Democrat Party victory, all the other state offices went to Republicans even the Attorney General which a correspondent on MSNBC said had been held by a Democrat for 75 years. I wish it wasn't so but it is, but this might help the Democrat Party turn out next year since they can see it is possible for a Democrat to win in Kentucky.

by Anonymousreply 243November 6, 2019 1:47 AM

I hope Dems don't slide back into not caring about local elections. This is great.

by Anonymousreply 244November 6, 2019 1:47 AM

The other good thing about Bevin losing is that his unpopularity was largely driven by his toxic, obnoxious personality and nasty attacks against teachers. So it would suggest there's limited appetite for nasty Trump-style antics by other high-profile politicians.

by Anonymousreply 245November 6, 2019 1:48 AM

From July.

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by Anonymousreply 246November 6, 2019 1:48 AM

Why has CNN and Fox not called KY

by Anonymousreply 247November 6, 2019 1:48 AM

R237: Per WaPo, Democrats leading or elected in 55 seats out of 100. Earlier it was only 52, so this is bonus territory.

by Anonymousreply 248November 6, 2019 1:50 AM

We must contribute to Amy McGrath and her campaign to unseat Moscow Mitch.

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by Anonymousreply 249November 6, 2019 1:50 AM

R243, unless you're a trumptardian CUNT there is no such thing as a Democrat party, only the Democratic party.

by Anonymousreply 250November 6, 2019 1:50 AM

R247, waiting for Moscow County to report?

by Anonymousreply 251November 6, 2019 1:50 AM

Eric Trump is on Fox still talking about Hunter Biden. Is Fox unaware there is an election tonight?

by Anonymousreply 252November 6, 2019 1:50 AM

For the first time in its history, the Virginia House of Delegates is expected to have a female Speaker.

by Anonymousreply 253November 6, 2019 1:51 AM

Fuck all Republicans. Republican'ts, and Republicunts too. Fuck them all.

People are sick to death of them. I hope there heads blow up.

Fuck those cunts.

by Anonymousreply 254November 6, 2019 1:51 AM

So, wait, this was not a good night for Trump?

by Anonymousreply 255November 6, 2019 1:51 AM

Fox is ignoring the election.

by Anonymousreply 256November 6, 2019 1:52 AM

In other news Pete Buttigieg's chief of staff won the mayoral election in South Bend Indiana replacing Mayor Pete with 63% of the vote with 98% reporting, much less than the 80% that Mayor Pete won with four years ago.

by Anonymousreply 257November 6, 2019 1:52 AM

r167 He is sooo my type. Is he single?

by Anonymousreply 258November 6, 2019 1:53 AM

I agree that Bevin's individual unpopularity is a bigger factor than any leftward shift. Although this isn't exactly good for Trump, I find that most of his deplorables still worship him and we shouldn't assume it will be an easy win in 2020. I saw a friend of a friend in Kentucky posting like, I can't stand Bevin but I want to support MY MAN TRUMP! (But apparently not enough felt this way, fortunately.)

by Anonymousreply 259November 6, 2019 1:53 AM

Did Coal Cuntry go for the Dem? Whaaat?

Have the mail ins from Moscow been counted?

by Anonymousreply 260November 6, 2019 1:53 AM

100% of precincts reporting in Kentucky:

49.2% Andy Beshear Dem 711,955

48.9% Matt Bevin* GOP 707,296

by Anonymousreply 261November 6, 2019 1:54 AM

Those republicunts chose Bevin in the primary, probably because they thought everyone loves a good Trumptard. Ooopsy! Looks like their is alot of Trump hate in deep red Ky.

by Anonymousreply 262November 6, 2019 1:54 AM

Everybody get your asses out in 2020, and vote for Democrats. Please, we have to get all Republican cunts out of office.

Fuck the Republicans. Fuck them really hard.

Stupid corrupt whores.

by Anonymousreply 263November 6, 2019 1:54 AM

Someone on CNN just said something to the effect of "seems like being an asshole is worse than being a Democrat" (re: KY gov race)

by Anonymousreply 264November 6, 2019 1:54 AM

R233, I saw Hansnitty talking to Eric fucking trump. No election results crawl on the bottom of the screen.

by Anonymousreply 265November 6, 2019 1:54 AM

Beshear's margin of victory appears to be 4,659.

by Anonymousreply 266November 6, 2019 1:55 AM

From New York City, Jumaane Williams is elected Public Advocate in a bi-election. And New Yorkers have approved Ranked Choice Voting for primary elections.

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by Anonymousreply 267November 6, 2019 1:57 AM

The VA senate has gone Democratic!

Now waiting for the House

by Anonymousreply 268November 6, 2019 1:58 AM

Fox news is nervous, even they see the writing on the wall.

Hopefully Democrats take back control of Washington next year in the elections.

by Anonymousreply 269November 6, 2019 1:58 AM

I hate the Republicunt party, they are all evil little shits. Fuck those assholes.

by Anonymousreply 270November 6, 2019 1:59 AM

R268: Wait no more. Per AP and WAPo, Dems now elected in 51 seats out of 100, it's official. Yes, Virginia, there is a trifecta. Kathy Tran will be the first female Speaker of the House of Delegates and VA's first trans Delegate, Danica Roem, was re-elected as well.

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by Anonymousreply 271November 6, 2019 2:00 AM

Virginia has really transformed. Wow!

by Anonymousreply 272November 6, 2019 2:01 AM

Throw in Helmer, R271, per Dave Wasserman, so it's now 52 to 48.

[quote]Projection: Dan Helmer (D) defeats 16-year Del. Tim Hugo (R) in VA #HD40. Hugo was the last remaining GOP legislator representing any part of Fairfax County at the state or federal level. #VALEG

by Anonymousreply 273November 6, 2019 2:02 AM

Welcome to the 21st century baby, we are in the dawn of a new era.

by Anonymousreply 274November 6, 2019 2:03 AM

Chris Cuomo explaining how CNN's "standards" don't allow them to call the KY gov's race yet. Despite the fact he'd just interviewed the KY secretary of state who said Beshear won. And AP, NBC News and others have all called it for Beshear.

OK, CNN. Is John King too busy drinking gin in the men's room to make a call?

by Anonymousreply 275November 6, 2019 2:04 AM

As a blue state, there is the potential for Virginia to become the 38th state to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, which would force Congressional consideration.

That should be fun in an election year.

by Anonymousreply 276November 6, 2019 2:04 AM

BREAKING: Democrats projected to flip Virginia Senate and House, taking control of state government for the first time in a generation

by Anonymousreply 277November 6, 2019 2:04 AM

[Quote]Looks like their is alot of Trump hate in deep red Ky.

Trump unfortunately remains very popular in Kentucky. That is why it says a lot about Bevins that he is such a piece of shit that even Trump lovers don't like him.

by Anonymousreply 278November 6, 2019 2:05 AM

Beshear on now declaring victory.

by Anonymousreply 279November 6, 2019 2:05 AM

AP:

Virginia Democrats flip Senate; House control still unknown

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by Anonymousreply 280November 6, 2019 2:05 AM

I could Andy Beshear running for president in the future, he seems to have it.

by Anonymousreply 281November 6, 2019 2:08 AM

We cross now to Philadelphia, where the Democrats have won. Nothing really new there...

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by Anonymousreply 282November 6, 2019 2:10 AM

So there's a bisexual election in New York and a trans is going to be speaker of the house in VA?

DL will explode!!!

---Miss Dora Dumbfuck

by Anonymousreply 283November 6, 2019 2:11 AM

Trump couldn't save him in Kentucky. Last night wasn't the Traitor's first stop there in recent weeks.

He's weaker than people admit.

by Anonymousreply 284November 6, 2019 2:12 AM

[Quote]Oh yeah I grew up in Northern VA and it's really super different now. Somehow things just boomed here.

Somehow? DC has exploded as a city, that has had a transformational affect in bringing lots of educated people to the state.

by Anonymousreply 285November 6, 2019 2:12 AM

Beshear is such a cute DILF.

by Anonymousreply 286November 6, 2019 2:13 AM

Just Tuesday and Trump has had a really fucked week. Miss Lindz is gonna get a beating soon

by Anonymousreply 287November 6, 2019 2:14 AM

[Quote]I could Andy Beshear running for president in the future, he seems to have it.

Being a governor of a red state isn't what Democrats want. Ask Steve Bullock, if you even remember he is a running for President.

Actually, all governors have been doing terrible as Presidential candidates recently for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 288November 6, 2019 2:14 AM

[quote]Trump couldn't save him in Kentucky. Last night wasn't the Traitor's first stop there in recent weeks.

And I think Pence was in Kentucky on Friday.

by Anonymousreply 289November 6, 2019 2:15 AM

Finally he mentions healthcare....

by Anonymousreply 290November 6, 2019 2:15 AM

"Democrat Trish Gunby wins hotly-contested Missouri House race in West County" - This is a flip to the Democrats in Missouri.

[quote]Both parties focused money and other attention on the district because it was considered winnable for either side.

[quote]Last year, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump carried the district although by a lesser percentage than he did across Missouri. But Claire McCaskill, the incumbent Democratic U.S. senator, also won the district while losing statewide to Republican Josh Hawley.

[quote]Gunby will succeed former Rep. Jean Evans, R-Manchester, who resigned her post last January to become the Missouri Republican Party's executive director.

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by Anonymousreply 291November 6, 2019 2:15 AM

Seems like DC has been there there for a while now, bringing educated people the whole time.

by Anonymousreply 292November 6, 2019 2:15 AM

I fear the outgoing KY legislature doing a Wisconsin on the new governor.

by Anonymousreply 293November 6, 2019 2:15 AM

Trump only endorsed 3 people in these elections:

Geary Higgins (Virginia)

Matt Bevin (Kentucky)

Tate Reeves (Mississippi)

2 out of 3 have been defeated. Only Reeves is leading in Mississippi, and it's not by as much as a Republican usually leads by in MS.

by Anonymousreply 294November 6, 2019 2:17 AM

North Carolina republicans did it to their newly elected Dem governor in 2016 as well r293.

by Anonymousreply 295November 6, 2019 2:17 AM

Trump congratulated the new Kentucky AG on Twitter. Bet he will say that the GOP won AG, secretary and treasury so it doesn't matter Bevin lost. Still such a big win for Trump.

Too bad Dems can't win in Mississippi too.

by Anonymousreply 296November 6, 2019 2:17 AM

Bevin is refusing to concede, claiming "irregularities."

by Anonymousreply 297November 6, 2019 2:19 AM

If the old governor can change the rules why can't the new governor change them back? Sorry, I'm not familiar with these things.

by Anonymousreply 298November 6, 2019 2:20 AM

R293: KY only elected their statewide offices tonight. The General Assembly is elected in even years, Midterms and Presidential. So the General Assembly is Republican in both chambers till next November and will stay that way after. It's the weirdest electoral calendar of all 50 states, in my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 299November 6, 2019 2:23 AM

Vaughan Hillyard said Eastern Iowa saved Beshear, he has spent too much time in Iowa, Vaughan you are in Kentucky not Iowa.

by Anonymousreply 300November 6, 2019 2:24 AM

If you are talking about r293's post, r298, it is the legislature that strips powers from the governor.

It would take the legislature to change it back. Or sometimes the courts will decide it is unconstitutional.

by Anonymousreply 301November 6, 2019 2:31 AM

Va House should be +5 Va Senate +2

Leadership will be all from Fairfax County. Northern Virginia should finally start getting back their fair share of the tax money.

by Anonymousreply 302November 6, 2019 2:34 AM

Virginia was the big win. I hope they govern well. Show what Dems can do when in complete control.

by Anonymousreply 303November 6, 2019 2:35 AM

In the Mississippi Gov. Race WLBT just called Lt. Gov. for Delbert Hoseman. He has ~230,000 vs Hughes' 150,00 . Which again is why I say Jim Hood's performance is person specific. He is only behind by like 10% of the vote.

by Anonymousreply 304November 6, 2019 2:36 AM

15 Dem 21 cult trifectas now

by Anonymousreply 305November 6, 2019 2:36 AM
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by Anonymousreply 306November 6, 2019 2:37 AM

Miss Nancy must be breathing a sigh of relief.

by Anonymousreply 307November 6, 2019 2:42 AM

In Kentucky the suburbs went Democratic, just like the rest of the country in 2018.

Trump was just in the suburbs stumping for Bevin last night.

by Anonymousreply 308November 6, 2019 2:48 AM

Remember the woman who was riding a bike and flipped off Trump in his limo on his way to the golf course - and then she was fired?

She was elected tonight for the Loudoun Board of Supervisors.

by Anonymousreply 309November 6, 2019 2:49 AM

A win is a win is a win is a win. Only trolls try to spin the Ky Gov win as not a win for Dems.

by Anonymousreply 310November 6, 2019 2:50 AM

Remember the woman who ran for the Virginia Assembly two years ago and tied with the Republican, and the Republican got the seat when they drew his name from a hat?

She beat him in a rematch tonight for the Virginia Assembly.

by Anonymousreply 311November 6, 2019 2:51 AM

Don't get too carried away with the "person specific" spin.

It's a bad night for Republicans. So bad that Fox was pretending there was no election today.

by Anonymousreply 312November 6, 2019 2:52 AM

Don Lemon was just interviewing Cory Booker and Cory misspoke and said "Senate erection."

What do you think he was thinking about at that moment?

by Anonymousreply 313November 6, 2019 2:52 AM

I think this makes LA harder to win because a loss in Ky will motivate "the base" to vote even though the LA Dem Gov is popular and has done a good job economically for that state.

by Anonymousreply 314November 6, 2019 2:53 AM

More like WHO was he thinking about, R313.

by Anonymousreply 315November 6, 2019 2:54 AM

FNC plays at my gym on multiple televisions. Hannity spent his hour railing against Biden

What election?

by Anonymousreply 316November 6, 2019 2:55 AM

Not only that, R309, but the part of the county she represents includes the golf club.

by Anonymousreply 317November 6, 2019 2:55 AM

You're overthinking things, r314. I have a feeling you could spend days trying to find a Louisiana voter who knows a damn thing about the Kentucky governor's race and come up empty.

by Anonymousreply 318November 6, 2019 2:57 AM

Louisiana Dem?

You mean John Bel Edwards?

Who do you think the damn fools will run against him?

by Anonymousreply 319November 6, 2019 2:57 AM

R312: It's not spin, darling. It's reality. In Kentucky specifically, it's Beshear. That's it. If it was a bad night for Republicans, Dems would have won a few of the other statewide races, like Attorney General and Secretary of the Commonwealth. We lost all of those.

Virginia was a bad night for Republicans. Philadelphia was a bad night for Republicans, as they lost their 2 seats on the City Council.

by Anonymousreply 320November 6, 2019 2:58 AM

[quote]FNC plays at my gym on multiple televisions.

What gym, R316? I want to know in order to avoid it.

by Anonymousreply 321November 6, 2019 2:58 AM

Trump pack your shit! You're next!!!

by Anonymousreply 322November 6, 2019 3:00 AM

Never mind I forgot all about that Rispone guy. Had to look it up.

by Anonymousreply 323November 6, 2019 3:03 AM

lmao Terry McAuliffe is handing smug McConnell acolyte & former Bush aide Scott Jennings his ass on Don Lemon's show

Jennings ever smug and smirking when a Democrat makes a point he doesn't like, tried saying the loss of Kentucky's governorship was not a big deal because most of the other elections in Kentucky went to repubs tonight. McAuliffe was not having it lol

by Anonymousreply 324November 6, 2019 3:14 AM

It was a bad night for Trump, which is great. It was also a bad night for Warren, Sanders, and the far left of center Dems. What swung the vote was the moderate democratic candidates speaking about issues which are at the heart of people's concerns. Not embracing more radical proposals or polarizing issues, but speaking to where the vast majority of the country is. If the Dems embrace positions which seem radical, they will lose to Trump.

by Anonymousreply 325November 6, 2019 3:16 AM

but think about it

Trump was not a moderate candidate in 2016. Why isn't he being called radical? Why is he considered more reasonable left Democrat?

by Anonymousreply 326November 6, 2019 3:22 AM

I wish Warren hadn't gone all in on MFA. Yes, we need it but it turns voters off. Start with a public option and go from there. Otherwise, what she offers is not radical. It is radical to NOT embrace many of the left's positions. Our system is broken. We need big reforms. I just think you have to say it in ways that doesn't scare most voters. Bernie is a great speaker. But he will get slaughtered in the General. Warren has really impressed with her speeches. If she pivots deftly in the General, she is in a strong position.

by Anonymousreply 327November 6, 2019 3:23 AM

R326 EXACTLY! He is THE most radical fucker ever.

I cannot fathom anybody who is slightly upset about his many bad actions voting for him knowing he will have almost unchecked power and will escalate his corrupt behavior. He has shown so much alarming, deeply disturbing behavior how can voters even think about wanting 4 additional years of that.

by Anonymousreply 328November 6, 2019 3:26 AM

I think you have something there, R325. Although Bevin was very unpopular in KY, when the dust settles I believe it will be the issue of healthcare that will be determined as the issue that killed him. I remember those stories coming out of KY. There were even many Republicans who HATED Obama and and ObamaCare but when so many of them were able to get healthcare for the very first time in their lives--contractors, coal miners, bartenders, etc, it was like a new world had opened for them. However, they were sold on the name KYNECT. Bevin and McConnell were quite strategic in never mentioning the name KYNECT, (which is ObamaCare) but yelled ObamaCare non-stop. These people bought into the story that Bevin, Trump, and Republicans, were going to bring them even better healthcare than KYNECT. But, once Bevin won THEN he started saying the word KYNECT and under his watch thousands lost that newly won healthcare that they loved and there was no plan to ever replace it with anything. That awakened a lot of people.

by Anonymousreply 329November 6, 2019 3:30 AM

I saw some supporter of derrr president who said the impeachment makes them like him more and dig in their heels. Okay, gurrl, you know what they say- pride goeth before the fall.

Like we give a fat fuck they "support" him even more.

by Anonymousreply 330November 6, 2019 3:33 AM

I just don't get why Democrats would have to bend over backwards to not appear to be too radical but repubs can say things that haven't been socially acceptable in 40 years and propose laws that would bring the country back 60 years and that's not considered radical?

How is anyone on the Democratic side more radical than Trump? It doesn't make sense

but I guess to old white hetero xtian voters any Democrat who isn't just a soft repub is considered "radical"

by Anonymousreply 331November 6, 2019 3:34 AM

Another point in such a close election is that the Cincinnati suburbs in Northern Kentucky shifted to the Democrats just like suburbs in much of the rest of the country.

by Anonymousreply 332November 6, 2019 3:35 AM

AP has called it for Rethug Tate Reeves. Hood is giving his concession speech as I type. Oh well , it was closer than expected. Voter turnout was lower than Espy v. Hyde-Smith though.

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by Anonymousreply 333November 6, 2019 3:40 AM

Easy, R331. You have a major part of the country that has been effectively brainwashed. A huge majority people listen to nothing but FOX and also received their news on FaceBook. This did not start yesterday. This has been decades in the making of where Republicans have conditioned the electorate to hate the mainstream media, nurture divisiveness, etc. They have spent TONS of money (Koch brothers leading this) to do this and it has worked. It's one of the reasons that I have said that Republicans can't govern because they have spent years on implementing these strategies to take power and keep it.

Did you just see the news tonight where some city council literally voted down funding for the NYT because they said that Trump called it fake news and therefore they did not want taxpayer funds being used to pay for that?

Democrats have A LOT of work to do!

by Anonymousreply 334November 6, 2019 3:43 AM

[quote]I just don't get why Democrats would have to bend over backwards to not appear to be too radical but repubs can say things that haven't been socially acceptable in 40 years and propose laws that would bring the country back 60 years and that's not considered radical?

Reason #1: Democrats can't count on the base to always show up in the numbers they need. They make up the deficit by appealing to independents. To appeal to independents and swing voters you have to have more moderate positions.

Reason #2: Republicans always vote for republicans. As my republican friends say, 'even the worst republican is better than any democrat.' Once republicans settle on a candidate, they tend to show up for that candidate. Democrats, unfortunately, don't necessarily do that. Think Susan Sarandon and some of the Bernie Bros for recent examples of this.

by Anonymousreply 335November 6, 2019 3:45 AM

R333, yes this is a decent performance for the Dems in Mississippi tonight.

Reeves is only beating Hood by 8 points right now. In the last Governor's race for Mississippi, the Republican won by 30 points.

If that erosion of the Republican vote happens in other states next year, it could be good for the Dems in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 336November 6, 2019 3:48 AM

EXACTLY, R335! Make no mistake that tonight was a win for Democrats but Democrats can't rest because of this. Bevin was SO awful that this election should have been an unquestionable runaway by the opponent. But, look how close it turned out to be...

by Anonymousreply 337November 6, 2019 3:51 AM

r337, Kentucky is a red state. It was never going to be an unquestionable runaway, that's Republican spin to take away from the Dems victory

by Anonymousreply 338November 6, 2019 3:59 AM

Yes, Kentucky is a red state now and it's very difficult for Dems to win statewide.

It was different in the 1990's when Bill Clinton was able to win it in 1992 & 1996 and when the Dems still had the popular Senator Wendell Ford.

But it has been trending rightward since 2000.

by Anonymousreply 339November 6, 2019 4:01 AM

I disagree, R338. Bevin was that awful and the healthcare issue was that big.

by Anonymousreply 340November 6, 2019 4:03 AM

Fayette County, where Trump held his rally last night, voted for Beshear over Bevin by 2 to 1:

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by Anonymousreply 341November 6, 2019 4:06 AM

Teachers, pensions and healthcare- ALL left issues Ky agrees with the Dems on. That is huge. They are brainwashed but some issues are breaking through. They are culturally conservative but not necessarily fiscally.

by Anonymousreply 342November 6, 2019 4:07 AM

[quote]140,000 Kentuckians - including *1 out of 4 Black Kentuckians* - are poised to be re-enfranchised.

[quote]Far more than anything about the politics of Beshear’s victory, that is where the implications lie for Mitch McConnell, who won his last presidential year race by 106,000 votes

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by Anonymousreply 343November 6, 2019 4:10 AM

Holy shit Matt Bevin has 10 kids!

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by Anonymousreply 344November 6, 2019 4:12 AM

"Bevin was that awful and the healthcare issue was that big."

Republicans have a tendency to always support other Republicans, even when they're awful. You sound like a shill, trying to attack the Dems.

by Anonymousreply 345November 6, 2019 4:14 AM

Bottom line it was all about white guy versus the black guy.

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by Anonymousreply 346November 6, 2019 4:19 AM

PollTroll where can I find voting by counties like u posted in R341 ? I want to see how Madison County voted in Mississippi.

by Anonymousreply 347November 6, 2019 4:27 AM

[quote]Republicans have a tendency to always support other Republicans, even when they're awful. You sound like a shill, trying to attack the Dems.

Oh, please... Go and scratch your ass, R345

Trump is not the first to play the race division card. Republicans have been doing this for years. This is how they win. But, KY really is a case for the text books. Again, I cannot stress enough how well KYNECT was LOVED in that State. It was the best thing that had ever happened in many people's lives--and that included many wealthy Republicans too! They were enrolling people like crazy and people were going to the doctors.... Everyone was THRILLED.... except the Republican political party. And, when Bevin was elected... it just ranks up there with the other mysteries of the Bible because he was quite clear that the first thing that he would do was to dismantle and destroy ObamaCare And, the white folks cheered!!! Once Bevin took the oath he kept to his promise and he went to dismantle and destroy KYNECT. And, the white folks clutched their pearls and mouthed "OH?"

Make no mistake that the Republicans knew what they were doing when they name their healthcare bill the AHCA versus the ACA which was law.

They're on Obamacare, they voted for Trump, and they're already disappointed--But they’re still voting Republican. (Because it is the white guy and the South shall rise again...)

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by Anonymousreply 348November 6, 2019 4:42 AM

Will Jimmy Carter's immanent death throw a monkey wrench into the momentum that has been building? It could also help, but I think it might detract for a few days.

by Anonymousreply 349November 6, 2019 4:53 AM

It was just absolutely mystifying... to some, that is;

Kentucky Residents Express Dissatisfaction With GOP Efforts To Dismantle Obamacare

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by Anonymousreply 350November 6, 2019 4:53 AM

Hi, R347.

You can find county results at sites like the NYT.

You go to the state you want and then on the right-hand side you click on the list of counties.

Eg. Madison County, the one you wanted, narrowly voted for Hood.

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by Anonymousreply 351November 6, 2019 5:40 AM

[quote]I wish Warren hadn't gone all in on MFA. Yes, we need it but it turns voters off. Start with a public option and go from there.

Tell me how you get the public option. What are you going to give up in negotiations to get the public option past the Repugs, whether they still are in control of the Senate or whether they use the filibuster to force 60 votes? You do no start negotiations from your end point. All of you who think this way do not understand how elections and governing work. Of course the positions will be changed for the general. They always are. She'll move slightly more center and this will be the thing she moves center on. That way, she gets to stay left on her other major issues. You know when the last time the public option was the starting negotiating position? The advent of Obamacare. How have you been enjoying that public option for the last decade? Oh, wait...

by Anonymousreply 352November 6, 2019 6:13 AM

Yes, r352, but she has to get elected on MFA, and polls show that it's very unpopular. I'd rather see her get elected on the popular public option than die on the MFA hill.

by Anonymousreply 353November 6, 2019 6:39 AM

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump (3 min ago)

Based on the Kentucky results, Mitch McConnell @senatemajldr will win BIG in Kentucky next year!

by Anonymousreply 354November 6, 2019 11:56 AM

Hmmm... why is Dump up Moscow Mitch’s asshole? Makes me wonder if Dump is starting to get a tad nervous about the Senate.

by Anonymousreply 355November 6, 2019 12:30 PM

R 335 is correct, which is why Warren and Sanders are guaranteed losers in the general.

by Anonymousreply 356November 6, 2019 12:38 PM

^You did not post that correctly, R356. I will not bother to scroll up and waste my time just to only discover that you're nothing more than a Trump troll supporter.

by Anonymousreply 357November 6, 2019 12:43 PM

[quote] I just don't get why Democrats would have to bend over backwards to not appear to be too radical but repubs can say things that haven't been socially acceptable in 40 years and propose laws that would bring the country back 60 years and that's not considered radical?

Two reasons, Democrats suck at messaging, Conservatives can label us all socialists and it sticks and no Democrat will even attempt to label Republicans as fascists or even unAmerican.

Democrats would rather fight against each other than conservatives, I am shocked at the number of people who have already posted in here that they won't vote for this or that Democrat candidate. Most Republicans who didn't like Trump held their noses and voted for him, while Democrats who didn't care for Hillary stayed home or voted for another candidate. Many Democrats only show up to vote for President any off year election they stay home.

by Anonymousreply 358November 6, 2019 1:07 PM

[quote]Two reasons, Democrats suck at messaging,

SCREAM it louder so that they can hear you in the balcony and in the back of the room!

[quote]Democrats would rather fight against each other than conservatives, I am shocked at the number of people who have already posted in here that they won't vote for this or that Democrat candidate.

We create our own misery.

by Anonymousreply 359November 6, 2019 1:13 PM

Reposted from the current Within Treason thread:

[quote]Some shit is definitely going on here. They're only ~4k votes apart. I think they're trying to pull some shit here.

[quote]Fucking Trump is still gloating and Fox and other commentators claim Trump helped Republicans win big in Kentucky. WTF? Are the AG, Secretary of State etc. suddenly more important than the Governor? What kind of alternate universe do they all still live in?

[quote]Also how weird was it that Fox did not cover the elections last night? Absolutely no mention on Hannity or even the screen. Eric Trump and Hannity were discussing the Bidens again for an hour. Did not watch Ingraham but it looked like they only announced the results and did not really cover it there either. Did Fox decide not to cover it after it was clear the Democrat would win or what was this all about?

by Anonymousreply 360November 6, 2019 1:13 PM

“Not voting is not a protest. It is a surrender.” ~~Keith Ellison (2016)

by Anonymousreply 361November 6, 2019 1:20 PM

Look... Republicans cheat. There is no think in that. It's a fact.

The problems lie with the Democrats. R358, hit the nail on its head. But, what I wrote about KY in R358 holds very true. Trump won KY by 30 points. Democrats should have won KY by 30 points!

In my opinion, Democrats must work much harder in getting their message not only heard but understood too. You see, here's my breakdown... Democrats believe that the electorate is intelligent and will vote for their best interests. That's the problem.

Republicans KNOW that the electorate and Americans are stupid and therefore they start at that base and design strategies to win on that basis.

by Anonymousreply 362November 6, 2019 1:23 PM

Warren really can't pivot to the center without losing a lot of credibility. She's painted herself into a corner with all of her plans and she doesn't strike me as someone who wants to pivot anyway. She's become a "my way or the highway" candidate which weakens her position in a general election.

by Anonymousreply 363November 6, 2019 1:47 PM

An NPR reporter just referred to the KY governor race as "too close to call."

WTF??

by Anonymousreply 364November 6, 2019 1:49 PM

R362, I’ll mull over your post, as I think there is much work to do with messaging. But honestly, I do not want to look in the mirror if I were a politician who pandered to the lowers denominator and preyed on their weaknesses. Republicans will always go lower, no matter how low the Democrats go. Where is the bottom?

On the other hand, I would love to hear suggestions on how we can message better, and tougher. Is there a way to keep messaging simple, yet attack the Republicans at their weak points? How would Democrat’s do that? Without losing their soul?

by Anonymousreply 365November 6, 2019 1:49 PM

R362: In what universe would any Democrat win a statewide election in KY by 30 points? Trump won it by 30 because it's a right wing red state. Any Democrat who wins will do so with single digit leads and that's it. This part of your post is totally nonsensical.

by Anonymousreply 366November 6, 2019 1:56 PM

Do you all seriously not get why MFA is problematic for voters?

"Medicare For All" sounds like some low-rent welfare solution, the the DMV-ization of healthcare.

People may hate their insurance companies, but they are afraid they are going to have to give up something bad for something worse.

It's not a rational fear, but it exists. If Warren wants to run on that, she's going to have to do a better job of explaining what it is.

As I've noted previously, I follow all of the candidates on Twitter and hers is far and away the most tone deaf and tries too hard.

Yang and Bernie do a good job--Yang's is often funny and he doesn't take himself too seriously. And whoever is doing Biden's (doubtful it is the man himself) also does a good job.

by Anonymousreply 367November 6, 2019 1:57 PM

I believe "Medicare for all" is a tested message and people like it because they like and trust Medicare. Most people would like to go on Medicare before they retire and not have to rely on insurance companies.

by Anonymousreply 368November 6, 2019 2:03 PM

R367: Medicare is simply the payer, there are no Medicare doctors or clinics or hospitals. Most people know that, through their parents and grandparents and the people on it. There is nothing to DMV-ize.

by Anonymousreply 369November 6, 2019 2:06 PM

Can we perhaps keep the Medicare For All discussion somewhere else?

by Anonymousreply 370November 6, 2019 2:06 PM

Washington state's elections: affirmative action restoration rejected. Ban stays in place. Gary Locke was campaigning for it.

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by Anonymousreply 371November 6, 2019 2:21 PM

[quote]Where is the bottom?

That's a very GOOD question,R365! Are we there now? We have nearly 50%of the American population that literally cannot decipher facts from fiction anymore. You had a city council somewhere that voted down the funding of the NYT for its citizens because they deemed it as fake news! WHAT??? There are MAJOR problems in this country and it all goes down to how we are educating ourselves and what we are allowing for the sake of "freedom", etc.

[quote]In what universe would any Democrat win a statewide election in KY by 30 points?

That was an embellishment, R366. I hope that most intelligent people would have gotten that. However, there needs to to be a deep forensic analysis of KY. What are the reasons that could cause affected people to vote against their own best interests?

[quote]On the other hand, I would love to hear suggestions on how we can message better, and tougher.

It is just off the top of my head but Democrats need to set up a think tank organization that holds the same power and influence that ALEC does. It's mission? The destruction of the today's Republican party. Whoever it was on Warren's team that came up with the BRILLIANT idea of sending FaceBook a fake ad was a genius! Do that a few more times and you will have Republicans and FaceBook howling on their knees.

Just as the Republicans (and ALEC) set out to discredit our established institutions for simply the sake of power, Democrats have to throw it back in their faces by doing the same thing. But, the big difference is that Democrats can govern. Republicans have spent decades designing this power play and never had any time to focus upon policy and governing.

by Anonymousreply 372November 6, 2019 2:22 PM

Analysis of the change in VA by someone on the front lines.

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by Anonymousreply 373November 6, 2019 2:24 PM
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by Anonymousreply 374November 6, 2019 2:24 PM

Democrats almost won Mississippi. Within 5 points. That is huge.

by Anonymousreply 375November 6, 2019 2:25 PM

^^^ And, this is what will get Democrats into trouble, R374! A win is great but it's time to work! I can guarantee you that when Republicans saw the writing on the walls with Bevin they immediately jumped into strategy sessions on what will have to be done to disrupt the new Administration and retake the State.

by Anonymousreply 376November 6, 2019 2:27 PM

#MoscowMitchisnext is trending lol

Fuck off Trump. You DID NOT win in Kentucky.

by Anonymousreply 377November 6, 2019 2:28 PM

[quote]Democrats almost won Mississippi.

And, Hillary won the popular vote. Do either event buy you a cup of coffee?

by Anonymousreply 378November 6, 2019 2:30 PM

There are lots of little nuggets out there from the smaller race like this one:

DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL OF MIKE PENCE'S HOMETOWN FOR FIRST TIME IN NEARLY FOUR DECADES

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by Anonymousreply 379November 6, 2019 2:31 PM

Texas is changing, turning purple. Dems are likely to win their House in 2020. It's a good start.

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by Anonymousreply 380November 6, 2019 2:34 PM

[quote]I can guarantee you that when Republicans saw the writing on the walls with Bevin they immediately jumped into strategy sessions on what will have to be done to disrupt the new Administration and retake the State.

Yep, KY Republicans are plotting right now to make the role of Governor largely ceremonial.

by Anonymousreply 381November 6, 2019 2:34 PM

Hillary winning the popular vote by millions portended Dems winning big in the 2018 elections to take back the House and several state legislatures r378.

These signs where you see the pulse of the nation are important Boris.

by Anonymousreply 382November 6, 2019 2:39 PM

Is Boris in a dank cell right now, being beaten?

You failed, Sergei!!!!

by Anonymousreply 383November 6, 2019 2:42 PM

Republicans lost in Kentucky so Trump Jr. etc. celebrate that a Republican is now AG and look how fucking clueless the deplorables are:

[Quote]Our last AG was a nightmare. Cameron is going to be there for a long haul.

Hello deplorable dimwit, your last AG just won the election and is now your new governor.

by Anonymousreply 384November 6, 2019 2:42 PM

Okay, R382

But, that means that you still will have to suffer the consequences of an ill elected official and/ or party. Just LOOK at the destruction that Trump and his minions has been able to destroy in just 2 years! Decades and generations of work destroyed in 730 days.

by Anonymousreply 385November 6, 2019 2:45 PM

R371: Those are likely not final results. Washington votes by mail, so it's "vote drops" as each batch is counted. It takes days to know the results out there.

by Anonymousreply 386November 6, 2019 2:53 PM

344,769 estimated ballots to sill be counted statewide. The election results continue.

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by Anonymousreply 387November 6, 2019 2:58 PM

Who is this weather fairy and why are they stepping on Poll Trolls turf?

by Anonymousreply 388November 6, 2019 3:12 PM

Actually WeatherFairy, if you read verbatims about people's feelings on MFA, it is exactly as I stated

They may know that Medicare is a payment system, but they are afraid it will turn into a government bureaucracy with "Medical Centers" where they will be assigned random doctors and have zero control over anything. HMOs, which I guess were a huge #FAIL in the 70s and 80s often come up.

by Anonymousreply 389November 6, 2019 3:15 PM

R388: I'm a political scientist and a meteorologist, at your service. I do not step on PollTroll, I enhance his services.

R389: The same was said of Obamacare. It'll be said of any reform proposed anywhere anytime.

by Anonymousreply 390November 6, 2019 3:21 PM

Honey, you need to pick a speciality. A jack of all trades...

Maybe we could use you in the inclimate weather threads.

by Anonymousreply 391November 6, 2019 3:25 PM

R391: One can have many interests and expertise in many fields.

by Anonymousreply 392November 6, 2019 3:35 PM

It is up to Poll Troll to tell us if your multifaceted expertise enhances his services, not the other way around.

by Anonymousreply 393November 6, 2019 3:43 PM

Daily Iowan: Stacey Abrams says she would be "happy" to run as a vice presidential candidate in the upcoming election.

by Anonymousreply 394November 6, 2019 3:44 PM

[quote] The same was said of Obamacare. It'll be said of any reform proposed anywhere anytime.

That was kind of my point.

It needs to be sold to a skeptical public for it to be a successful strategy. And sold hard. The people pushing it need to know that, too often it seems they forget that people need to be sold on the thing itself, rather than the good it will do.

Not sure Warren gets that yet. Hopefully she will.

by Anonymousreply 395November 6, 2019 3:49 PM

[quote]Look... Republicans cheat. There is no think in that. It's a fact.

Ya see what I mean? Republicans have named the whistleblower.

THEY DON'T CARE, R365. They want the power by any means necessary. You CANNOT work with these people. Therefore, you have to go at them as hard as they are coming for you.

I notice many of you are mentioning MFA. I don't get the complication with Dems marketing universal healthcare. The rest of the world has it! They have had it for quite some time and it works. Their people are healthier and live longer. They pay far less for healthcare than we do.

And?

by Anonymousreply 396November 6, 2019 3:55 PM

Re: Washington results

Sorry to see homophobe Eyman's 976 pass (it had nothing to do with gays, but he lead the charge against same sex marriage years ago).

by Anonymousreply 397November 6, 2019 4:34 PM

R389, HMOs were not a huge fail in the 70s and 80s. They are now, though. People were thrilled they could go see their doctor for a couple of bucks.

by Anonymousreply 398November 6, 2019 4:45 PM

I'm absolutely fine with that, r389, assuming......

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by Anonymousreply 399November 6, 2019 4:46 PM

If Mr. Poll Troll is still lurking on this thread could he please give his analysis and opinion on this poll, please?

Poll: Majority expect Trump to win in 2020--The president’s reelection prospects appear to be a motivating factor for potential voter turnout.

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by Anonymousreply 400November 6, 2019 6:22 PM

Dems win kansas

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by Anonymousreply 401November 6, 2019 6:41 PM

That was last year, friend.

The new Speaker of the VA House is a woman. That's the highest office a woman has held in state government.

by Anonymousreply 402November 6, 2019 6:49 PM

So the KY GOP is about to steal the Gov election. They have said they might have the state leg vote on who is the next Gov. Apparently, it is a law that hasn't been used in 120 years.

They are out of control!

by Anonymousreply 403November 6, 2019 10:27 PM

[quote]If Mr. Poll Troll is still lurking on this thread could he please give his analysis and opinion on this poll, please?

R400, political science research conducted over the years does sometimes show that the person voters *think* will win does in fact often end up winning.

The psychological expectation game can sometimes become a self-fulfilling prophecy in politics, but at this stage it's too early to predict the outcome.

by Anonymousreply 404November 6, 2019 10:42 PM

Well, Allison is a Democrat and she ran and lost against MoscowMitch. It will be done correctly and fairly. But, then Republicans will probably accuse her of being partisan because she is a Democrat.

Alison L. Grimes @KySecofState

My office has received a recanvass request from @GovMattBevin . The recanvass will be conducted Thursday, Nov. 14th at 9:00 a.m.

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by Anonymousreply 405November 6, 2019 10:50 PM
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by Anonymousreply 406November 6, 2019 10:52 PM

Bevin on recanvass: "Thousands of absentee ballots were illegally counted" (and, they know this how?)

Senate president: Kentucky governor's race could be decided by state legislature

Kentucky Senate President Robert Stivers threw another wrench into the state's razor-thin gubernatorial outcome late Tuesday night, saying that the legislature could decide the race.

Stivers' comments came shortly after Gov. Matt Bevin refused to concede to Attorney General Andy Beshear, who led by roughly 5,100 votes when all the precincts were counted.

“There’s less than one-half of 1%, as I understand, separating the governor and the attorney general,” Stivers said. “We will follow the letter of the law and what various processes determine.”

Stivers, R-Manchester, said based on his staff’s research, the decision could come before the Republican-controlled state legislature.

Under state law, Bevin has 30 days to formally contest the outcome once it is certified by the State Board of Elections. Candidates typically ask for a re-canvass of voting machines and a recount first.

The last contested governor's race was the 1899 election of Democrat William Goebel.

Stivers said he thought Bevin’s speech declining to concede to Beshear was “appropriate.” He said believes most of the votes that went to Libertarian John Hicks, who received about 2% of the total vote, would have gone to Bevin and made him the clear winner.

A candidate can file a formal election contest with the state legislature, but it must be filed within 30 days of the last action by the state board of elections. The state board is scheduled to certify the results of the race for governor on Nov. 25 this year.

Under this contest, the candidate challenging the results must specify the grounds for the action, such as a violation of campaign finance rules or specific problems when it comes to how ballots were cast.

Such an election contest is covered under Section 90 of the state constitution, which addresses a "contest of election for Governor or Lieutenant Governor."

Section 90 states: "Contested elections for Governor and Lieutenant Governor shall be determined by both Houses of the General Assembly, according to such regulations as may be established by law."

Sam Marcosson, a constitutional law professor at the University of Louisville Brandeis School of Law, told The Courier Journal that this language of the state Constitution suggests there must be procedure established by law for a review of a contested election to take place by the House and Senate.

“They can’t just make them up,” Marcosson said.

Further, he said, such a review would be extremely risky for lawmakers to undertake without clear reasons for a contested election.

“If the House and Senate were just to proceed on vague allegations without proof, that raises serious questions about disenfranchisement of the voters who voted for Attorney General Beshear,” Marcosson said. “It’s an extraordinary proposition to suggest that the General Assembly would take vague allegations of unspecified irregularities and call into question a gubernatorial election.”

by Anonymousreply 407November 6, 2019 11:03 PM

Watch after the re-canvass, Bashear's lead will grow. I enjoy the part where the Libertarian votes should have gone to Bevin so therefore he wins. The Libertarian Party of Kentucky says otherwise....

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by Anonymousreply 408November 6, 2019 11:59 PM

Yeah Roy Moore did this for a few days and until reality set it.

by Anonymousreply 409November 7, 2019 12:21 AM

The GOP in Kentucky is now seriously trying to steal an election. I'm so fucking disgusted by this. What the hell is going on in this country?

by Anonymousreply 410November 7, 2019 12:28 AM

[quote]Yes, [R352], but she has to get elected on MFA, and polls show that it's very unpopular.

Except for the pesky fact that between 55-70% of people actually support it. The Repugs are trying to demonize it, so we'll no doubt lose some stupid sheep, but people want a simple, nation-wide system. No one likes dealing with insurance companies unless they never deal with insurance companies. Education is the key here. Ninety percent of this country is just sitting around waiting to be told what to believe. The Repugs get that. Democrats need to figure out how stupid most people are and message to that fact.

by Anonymousreply 411November 7, 2019 12:48 AM

Matt Bevin received about 200,000 more vote in the 2019 Kentucky election than he did in the 2015 election, that is a amazing number of more votes to receive in an election and still lose. Only because the Democrat Beshear got out even more new voters than in 2015 did he win.

The Republicans are going to get out the vote in 2020, Democrats are going to have to do even better and in the right places to make Trump a one term President.

by Anonymousreply 412November 7, 2019 1:19 AM

He is historically unpopular. He is hated. The majority, MAJORITY, of those polled want him impeached AND removed. I do not buy this notion he is going to be tough to beat. He only wins with cheating.

by Anonymousreply 413November 7, 2019 1:23 AM

Were those all "real" votes r412 or flipped ones? Seems like a high number of new voters.

by Anonymousreply 414November 7, 2019 1:25 AM

He was historically unpopular when he won the first time r413. There are a ton of people out there who love Trump, and they will be voting in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 415November 7, 2019 1:27 AM

#MoscowMitch is the most unpopular Senator with an approval rating of 23%. There is no doubt some voters, who didn't vote this time, will see their votes do matter and come out to vote his ass out.

by Anonymousreply 416November 7, 2019 1:27 AM

Funny numbers in Mississippi and KY. Where are all these thousands of new republican “voters” coming from? Especially when those towns are hollowing out.

by Anonymousreply 417November 7, 2019 1:29 AM

R415 He was an unknown quantity at the time. That is gone and the verdict is damning. There are shitloads of voters who voted for him who thought he was benign who now see he is anything but. Every election since has seen shifts of 20-40 points in the Dems direction. He is hated and has to cheat to win. As he cheated last time.

by Anonymousreply 418November 7, 2019 1:29 AM

Russians may have miscalculated in KY. They brought out a lot of "new" voters but didn't expect the other guy to bring out even more.

by Anonymousreply 419November 7, 2019 1:31 AM

There is no need to conjure images of voter fraud—especially massive voter fraud—to explain Kentucky. Trump exercises voters all across the spectrum. Bevin was elected before Trump, so turnout for him in that election was lower. Now, every election seems apocalyptic, so voter turnout is much higher even in off year elections.

by Anonymousreply 420November 7, 2019 1:39 AM

It was super close though r419. Like by 4k votes. The margin of victory suspiciously narrowed quite a bit towards the end of the evening, when mostly urban/city districts were left to report (those that normally vote blue/Dem). Most of the red rural strongholds had already reported results.

by Anonymousreply 421November 7, 2019 1:41 AM

I love how Republicans are always screaming about voter fraud. But everyone who is busted on voter fraud turns out to be republican.

by Anonymousreply 422November 7, 2019 1:43 AM

[quote]Funny numbers in Mississippi and KY. Where are all these thousands of new republican “voters” coming from? Especially when those towns are hollowing out.

You would think that this is a question that the DEMOCRATS would be asking especially since the Republicans have been caught at least 3 times within the last 4-8 years of submitting fake voter registration applications AKA VOTER FRAUD and there are those who have been convicted of it. One would think that at least one DEMOCRAT would be concerned about the Republicans emotional health and try to discover/uncover why this has upset them so. Maybe the plan didn't workout as it was supposed to?

I'll never forget the current Republican Governor of Georgia's (who we've heard very little from since the election) who ran against Stacey Abrams, demeanor when by ALL accounts she was slated to win that election and he never cracked a sweat. You would think that some DEMOCRAT would be interested and asking some questions.

by Anonymousreply 423November 7, 2019 1:52 AM

GOP= Can't win shit without cheating, stealing, lying, thieving.....

by Anonymousreply 424November 7, 2019 1:54 AM

[quote]Watch after the re-canvass, Bashear's lead will grow.

Just like his GOVERNOR I'D LIKE TO FUCK WANG

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by Anonymousreply 425November 7, 2019 2:09 AM

I just think that it’s worth looking into all these extra voters. This was an off year election that many people didn’t even know was happening.

But somehow hundreds of thousands of republican voters could out of the woods to vote. Especially after they were just busted red handed in North Carolina.

I hope Nate Silver looks into this to at least rule it out.

by Anonymousreply 426November 7, 2019 2:44 AM

[quote]The margin of victory suspiciously narrowed quite a bit towards the end of the evening, when mostly urban/city districts were left to report (those that normally vote blue/Dem). Most of the red rural strongholds had already reported results.

Same exact pattern as Florida on election night 2016.

It also seems that their new tactic is to hold off reporting some of the red counties until really late when usually, being less populated, they usually come in quite early. Let's them know how much they need to make up. There was some county in one of the special elections earlier this year where a whole bunch of new votes suddenly showed up only in one county and that county came in really late. I think it was that election where the one asshole got caught cheating and then, suddenly, a whole bunch of new people came out to vote for the cheating asshole who ran the next time but, seemingly, only in that one county.

by Anonymousreply 427November 7, 2019 2:56 AM

^The plan might have been thrown off because according to "Morning Joe" Bevin was leading by 5 points prior to the Trump visit. The Republicans may have thought that they didn't have to resort to plan "B."

by Anonymousreply 428November 7, 2019 3:04 AM

There is no doubt every election now the vote totals are fucked up, come in at odd times, usually a surge in GOP votes in odd places. It happens just about every time.

by Anonymousreply 429November 7, 2019 3:04 AM

R427 and R421, I'd re-watch the live reporting of the results coming in. Kentucky is in two different time zones, so naturally the tail end of the state -- which tends to be red and rural -- would report last. The heavily populated blue counties on the coast reported an hour earlier.

It's important to stay evidence-based. There has been no evidence of vote tampering, either by Russia or by the Republicans, on the scale suggested here. Of course, the margin of victory was going to be razor-thin: the last poll before the election had Bevin up by five points.

by Anonymousreply 430November 7, 2019 3:05 AM

R430 Blue counties on the coast? Coast of what? I didn't know KY had beaches........

It wasn't just the western part. There was an middle/eastern county. And it was ridiculous how many votes were shaved off. Esp when just about every other county showed the R underperforming and usually quite badly. I guess Moscow County and St. Petersburg County came through again.

by Anonymousreply 431November 7, 2019 3:09 AM

[quote]It's important to stay evidence-based. There has been no evidence of vote tampering,

Yes, there is;

[quote]Republicans have been caught at least 3 times within the last 4-8 years of submitting fake voter registration applications AKA VOTER FRAUD

That's reason enough to open up an investigation.

by Anonymousreply 432November 7, 2019 3:10 AM

[quote]The heavily populated blue counties on the coast reported an hour earlier.

[quote]It's important to stay evidence-based.

Like the coast of Kentucky?

by Anonymousreply 433November 7, 2019 3:11 AM

R433 I think they were trying to make the point that Eastern KY is a liberal haven of coal miners...........(I use ellipses like derrr Prez).

by Anonymousreply 434November 7, 2019 3:24 AM

[quote]#MoscowMitch is the most unpopular Senator with an approval rating of 23%.

Yes, McConnell was rated the most unpopular Senator in the recent Morning Consult Senate rankings.

Susan Collins of Maine was the 2nd-most unpopular.

by Anonymousreply 435November 7, 2019 3:25 AM

Kentucky beaches are fab!

by Anonymousreply 436November 7, 2019 3:30 AM

There are actually some ok beaches at the lakes in NW KY, near Paducah. Went there as a child a few times.

by Anonymousreply 437November 7, 2019 3:34 AM

[quote]Susan Collins of Maine was the 2nd-most unpopular.

Cue up the CONCERN

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by Anonymousreply 438November 7, 2019 3:43 AM

I love "The View"

They speak to a Kentucky resident.

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by Anonymousreply 439November 7, 2019 4:35 AM

Can someone explain why some news organizations are calling Kentucky too close to call when 100% of precincts are reported and Beshear has a 5,000 vote margin? What exactly is too close to call here, i don't remember them doing this before.

by Anonymousreply 440November 7, 2019 4:48 AM

^Because Republicans are still trying to figure out a way to steal the election?

by Anonymousreply 441November 7, 2019 4:58 AM

In my area (Philadelphia), every single suburban county surrounding it is now blue. Previously (I believe), three out of four were red. So the Kentucky numbers are not an aberration. Yes, the governor was hated, but I truly believe that the spur of Democratic voters wouldn’t have been as great if not for the turd in the WH.

by Anonymousreply 442November 7, 2019 1:12 PM

[quote]It is outrageous that Republicans are threatening to effectively overturn the Kentucky election. In a democracy, we cannot allow politicians to just overrule election results. The will of voters must be respected.

(Read the responding tweets)

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by Anonymousreply 443November 7, 2019 3:04 PM

We are REALLY in some scary times....

JURISPRUDENCE

Could Matt Bevin Steal the Kentucky Governor’s Election?

By RICHARD L. HASEN

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by Anonymousreply 444November 7, 2019 6:44 PM

This is playing with political fire, as if they go down this road seating Bevin for another term even though the state has certified him the loser, this could well and rage those who voted for his opponent enough that the Rs could face an incredibly mobilized Dem-leaning electorate next year.

by Anonymousreply 445November 7, 2019 7:16 PM

Exactly, R445. I don't think the election results as they stand make any real difference to McConnell's re-election chances - his approval numbers have been in the toilet for a while now, though he could win again given how red KY still is. But if the KY legislature gives Bevan a second term, you can bet the outrage will REALLY endanger Moscow Mitch's chances as it will churn up the base and the suburban voters.

Part of me thinks Bevan is just showing off for Trump and the Deplorable base in case he wants to run for something in the future.

by Anonymousreply 446November 7, 2019 7:25 PM

After posting that, I went to look at the Louisville paper for the latest developments. It seems the legislative leadership is taking a dim view of this, stating that they would need very specific proof of irregularities, not "allegations" despite what one loudmouth spouted. Bevin is being a sore loser, pure and simple.

by Anonymousreply 447November 7, 2019 7:31 PM

Glad to hear R447. And of course, what would you expect from a blowhard Trump wannabe like Bevin?

by Anonymousreply 448November 7, 2019 7:35 PM

[quote]This is playing with political fire,

Honey, these Republicans of today DON'T CARE! It's all about the gaining power and whatever catastrophe happens will be handled later. Don't you remember how Republicans held the nation captive, (and our credit score was lowered), because they refused to raise to debt ceiling? Have you noticed that there hasn't been a debt ceiling argument ever since Republicans have taken control--as they explode the debt and deficit?

You can't reason with these people as R365 would like to. These people must be destroyed or else we might as well just accept that our country (as we knew it ) is finished. The rancor of this nation is, (in my opinion), moving to such a fevered state similar to that when the country was pre- Civil War.

by Anonymousreply 449November 7, 2019 7:46 PM

Maybe this is just a trial run for Trump refusing to concede next year.

Also, tomorrow is the three-year anniversary of the election, so, yay.

by Anonymousreply 450November 7, 2019 8:30 PM

This is the denial stage.

by Anonymousreply 451November 8, 2019 3:19 AM

In 'A Warning' by Anonymous, obtained by WaPo ahead of its release, a writer described only as "a senior official in the Trump administration" paints a chilling portrait of the president as cruel, inept and a danger to the nation he was elected to lead.

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by Anonymousreply 452November 8, 2019 4:55 AM

Does anyone have any info on the race in Louisiana? Election is in 5 days. I can't find any recent polls. Looks like the Republican candidate is a major Trump asskisser, politically inexperienced and runs a very dirty campaign, but there really isn't much substance besides attacking his opponent and calling Louisiana "Trump country".

Also, any updates on Bevin and Kentucky? Last I heard is that leading Republicans are hopefully distancing themselves from stealing the election, but Bevin is still unwilling to concede.

by Anonymousreply 453November 11, 2019 3:42 PM

[quote]Also, any updates on Bevin and Kentucky? Last I heard is that leading Republicans are hopefully distancing themselves from stealing the election, but Bevin is still unwilling to concede.

It's still the same. But....

"McConnell on Kentucky governor race: ‘All indications are we’ll have a new governor’--BY DANIEL DESROCHERS: NOVEMBER 11, 2019 11:28 AM, UPDATED 1 HOUR 16 MINUTES AGO

by Anonymousreply 454November 11, 2019 3:46 PM

“ Republicans KNOW that the electorate and Americans are stupid and therefore they start at that base and design strategies to win on that basis.”

PIN and post this at the top of every political thread.

by Anonymousreply 455November 11, 2019 3:53 PM

Which is why “it’s the Economy stupid” is erroneous in the modern era.

by Anonymousreply 456November 11, 2019 3:54 PM

Bevin doesn't have to concede.

Once the election results are certified, he is out on his ass.

by Anonymousreply 457November 11, 2019 4:11 PM

[quote]Does anyone have any info on the race in Louisiana? Election is in 5 days. I can't find any recent polls.

Most recent Louisiana poll was by Edgewater Research on Oct 28 giving Edwards (D) a 3-point lead over Rispone (R). We're probably going to see a very close result like Kentucky where it will come down to turnout and have to wait until all the numbers come in on Saturday night.

Louisiana, like Kentucky, has become more Republican over the past 2 decades. Bill Clinton won Kentucky & Louisiana in 1992 & 1996, but since 2000, they have both been trending rightward.

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by Anonymousreply 458November 11, 2019 4:51 PM

New Louisiana Governor poll just released this morning:

November 11

KSLA News 12 poll

625 registered Louisiana voters

Edwards (D) 48%

Rispone (R) 46%

6% undecided

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by Anonymousreply 459November 11, 2019 5:06 PM

Thanks PollTroll, you're the best.

So it will be tough race for Edwards to win re-election. Sigh.

by Anonymousreply 460November 11, 2019 5:15 PM

Thanks PollTroll, you're the best.

So it will be tough race for Edwards to win re-election. Sigh.

by Anonymousreply 461November 11, 2019 5:15 PM

Yeah it will definitely be a close election, hopefully it will be like the Doug Jones election. High black turn out will lead to Edwards winning by about a point.

by Anonymousreply 462November 11, 2019 5:20 PM

Edwards can still win, but it will come down to the wire, like Kentucky.

Here's today's article on the new poll:

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by Anonymousreply 463November 11, 2019 5:20 PM

They're trying to help him:

"McConnell: Bevin 'had a good 4 years,' but likely lost"

But.... YIKES!

"Opinion: I'm a pro-life Republican who couldn't vote for Bevin because of Trump"

I live in the East End of Louisville. I am a registered Republican. I am an evangelical Christian, pro-life, for traditional marriage and as conservative as you can get. I have boasted to my friends for years that I have never voted for a Democrat.

I had planned to vote for Matt Bevin in our governor's race Nov. 5. I like most everything Gov. Bevin stands for; we even have mutual friends who I respect, and most everyone I know surely voted for him. But I could not vote for Bevin.

I could not vote for Bevin because in recent months I saw him align himself closer and closer to Donald J. Trump. That alone changed my mind. I cannot stand with a candidate, even one who I largely agree with, who will lower themselves to Trump's level.

Trump is morally depraved. He is completely self-serving. He is a bully. He is an admitted sexual assailant. He thinks he is a god and above the law. He is a liar (almost every time he opens his mouth). He promotes violence against others, especially anyone who disagrees with him. He is a racist. He lacks the basic understanding of government and leadership needed to lead our nation. It appears obvious that he is guilty of collusion with a foreign government in an attempt to tamper with our 2016 elections, guilty of obstruction of justice in how he dealt with James Comey and others, guilty of obstruction of justice in refusing to cooperate with the current impeachment inquiry, guilty of abusing his power and the resources of this great nation by attempting to bribe a foreign government to investigate his political opponent.

No, Bevin's loss in Kentucky was not about Bevin. It was about Trump.

Gov. Bevin, the flyers you sent to my mailbox with the pictures of you with your Trump, they pushed me further and further away from even considering voting for you.

Let's hope we either see impeachment and removal from office or that this trend continues in 2020.

Luke Parker, Opinion contributorPublished 10:51 a.m. ET Nov. 11, 2019

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by Anonymousreply 464November 11, 2019 9:42 PM

[quote]They're trying to help him:

McConnell Moves On From Bevin: ‘We’ll Have A Different Governor In 3 Weeks’

LOL! In other words; Pack up your shit.

by Anonymousreply 465November 12, 2019 4:08 PM

Harry Enten summarizes the Louisiana Governor's race:

[quote]It's very, very tight in LA-Gov, but Edwards holds a 2-3 point edge in most polling.

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by Anonymousreply 466November 12, 2019 10:20 PM

What does Enten know about very very tight?

by Anonymousreply 467November 13, 2019 1:50 PM

Matt Bevin FINALLY conceded.

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by Anonymousreply 468November 14, 2019 6:46 PM

And only 2 more days to go before the vote in the Louisiana Governor's race, which looks like it will be just as close!

by Anonymousreply 469November 14, 2019 7:32 PM

I can't believe I will praise Republicans, but I appreciate the other KY Republicans gave Bevin no support when he tried to start drama about the election results.

Though really that's more of a sign of how even his own party doesn't like the guy I think.

by Anonymousreply 470November 14, 2019 8:04 PM

A few more Louisiana Governor polls:

JMC Analytics [Edwards +1]

(Nov 12-13, 2019)

600 LV

Edwards 47%

Rispone 46%

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Targoz Market Research [Edwards +4]

(Nov 7-13, 2019)

640 LV

Edwards 50%

Rispone 46%

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Targoz Market Research

(Nov 7-13, 2019) [Edwards +8]

803 RV

Edwards 46%

Rispone 38%

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by Anonymousreply 471November 15, 2019 2:24 AM

Here's hoping it comes down to the heavy non-white early voting.

by Anonymousreply 472November 15, 2019 2:37 AM

r468 It helps that they know that the Kentucky governorship is a weak office, any veto can be overridden with a simple majority and unfortunately republicans have supermajorities in both chambers so they'll pass whatever hideous immoral legislation they want. Bevin isn't worth the hassle to them but if there was more on the line they'd do their best to steal it.

by Anonymousreply 473November 15, 2019 3:59 AM

Is there a thread for the Louisiana Governor's race? Or, are we doing that here? I tried a DL search but I just can't... I can't deal with that search engine anymore.

by Anonymousreply 474November 16, 2019 7:43 PM

R474, Are you a non-white?

by Anonymousreply 475November 16, 2019 8:01 PM

R474. Sorry .it was not for you

R472, Are you a non-white?

by Anonymousreply 476November 16, 2019 8:03 PM

[quote]Is there a thread for the Louisiana Governor's race?

I'll create one for tonight.

Results start to come in after 9 PM Eastern.

by Anonymousreply 477November 16, 2019 9:29 PM

*Louisiana Governor election results*:

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by Anonymousreply 478November 16, 2019 9:33 PM

Go Gov John Bel Edwards!

The GOP is saying, well of course he won he is a pro-gun (whatever that means) and anti-abortion Dem. Ok, Aaaannnnnd? So was the Republican running against him. When has the ever stopped conservative voters from throwing out a popular Dem Gov in a Red state for an idiot Republican? Yes, Beshear and Edwards were good candidates for their states but the suburbs are turning hard against derrrr Prez.

And New Orleans Parish was a bloodbath! Over 100,000 votes more for Edwards!

by Anonymousreply 479November 19, 2019 12:15 AM

As a result of the victory in the Virginia General Assembly, but for the first time ever, both the Speak of the House of Delegates and the President Pro Tem of the Senate will be women. Senator Louise Lucas is also the first African American of either gender to be in that position.

by Anonymousreply 480November 20, 2019 10:33 PM

The new Speaker is Jewish and the House majority leader is also an African American woman. All are firsts.

by Anonymousreply 481November 20, 2019 10:35 PM

This country is thirsty for change. This is why there are so many firsts and so many people who aren't hetero white guys are getting elected all over the place.

Warren/Buttigieg 2020

by Anonymousreply 482November 21, 2019 1:41 AM

The GOP is fast fucking themselves and they seem either oblivious or know full well their game is up and are going full blast over the cliff. Their economic and foreign policy has been a universal sham and disgrace.

by Anonymousreply 483November 21, 2019 2:14 AM

R483, they know it's now or never for their theocracy.

The country's demographics are changing and stupid old white male bigots will be swept aside. They are terrified and making one last desperate grab for autocracy because it's the only way to save themselves. They're all in.

More women and POC now realize they can do that job AND that they CAN get elected. It's like more people realize they are more qualified than the fat fool occupying the WH and gave decided to give it a try. I am glad of it!

The more diverse representation we have, the better our chances to get new ideas and work something out to everyone's benefit.

by Anonymousreply 484November 21, 2019 8:20 AM

[quote][R483], they know it's now or never for their theocracy.

The following is what worries me. It could be nothing. But more than likely it is something;

Mark Zuckerberg Had Undisclosed Meeting With Donald Trump, Peter Thiel Amid Furor on Political Ads

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg had an undisclosed meeting with Donald Trump at the White House in October, not long after Facebook quietly eased its policies to let politicians lie in ads and as intense pressure was building on the company to roll that change back, NBC News reported on Wednesday.

An NBC source said that ultra-conservative chairman of cyber-intelligence firm Palantir and Facebook board member Peter Thiel, who has parroted Trump’s continual attacks on Silicon Valley tech giants, was also in attendance. Thiel has said tech platforms operate as “totalitarian, semi-totalitarian one-party states” and hinted bans of Republicans were “intentional acts of political sabotage.” (Thiel secretly financed the lawsuit that bankrupted Gizmodo’s former parent company, Gawker Media, back in 2016.)

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