Henry Cavill Out as Superman... JJ Abrams recasting him

Will Dylan Sprayberry take over?

Fucked up Star Trek, then Star Wars, and now DC superheroes.

^^^My EXACT first thought.

I love his Star Trek

Abrams destroys everything he touches.

R5 not really he just can't finish what he started. Lost, Fringe etc...

I personally loved his first Star Trek movie. The second was just ok and then the third sucked, and you could tell he didn’t direct it.

r7 exactly good ideas to start - no follow-up - then threads...just threads...I think he went to the Ryan Murphy school of writing.

I did like his Star Wars movie too, to be honest. It was a rehash of A New Hope but a good one.

r9 supposidly George Lucas HATED that movie. He hated the script saying exactly what you said - it was a rehash of what he did.

R10 but Lucas also loved Episode 1-3, which says a lot.

Hollywood needs to stop making all of these superhero movies. I've reached fatigue after almost 20 years of it non stop and it's time for something new. Maybe this and the meltdown happening over at Marvel will finish it off for a long time.

R12 One can only hope. DC movies have been trashed for a while, so they don’t have the sheeple crowd that Marvel had. And now that Marvel is doing new heroes that nobody knows or cares about and the Infinity saga is over, maybe we can hold out hope that the superhero fad is dying.

I think Marvels upcoming TV shows will do better than their upcoming movies.

I think Henry has the right look, but the DC movies have been so dire that he didn’t have much of a chance.

Superman is so hard to do because he is all-powerful. The Luthor angle is good but been told over and over. Same for the origin story. What they should do is the death of superman but skip the justice league bs. The four supermen appear - Superman is reborn and ends up fighting the eradicator to save Lois, who ends up saving the day for Superman not just a chick who needs saving.

Not only is Superman so powerful that it makes finding a genuine antagonist difficult, but he also has the wholesome boy scout, do no wrong aesthetic.

They really need to take some lessons from Marvel and how they created conflict and forces of antagonism for Captain America. The failure of Justice League was that Batman was unhinged, not that we could actually see his side or that Superman took the opposing and equally valid point of view, unlike in Captain America Civil War.

You don't need to make him "dark" to make him interesting.

Enough of Kal-El, give me Val-Zod instead. Or better yet, wait and see how Supergirl does.

Henry being out as Superman is like year old news.

Hey, J.J./Hollywood -- how about stopping with the fucking superheroes movies, already? They're no longer "special" if there's one coming out once a month.

Colton’s not busy.

OP this new is A YEAR OLD

FF

This is age discrimination.

Actually, you can say what you want about J.J. Abrams, but he knows how to cast. Star Trek and Star Wars both had terrifically cast actors. If he’s really stepping into Superman movies, he’ll find someone great for the role.

So, basically, Henry just looks too manly compared to fey RPATTZ for an eventual rebooted Justice League, then? Will they also recast Gadot and Momoa, who both make Pattzy look like their smaller, mentally deficient little brother? And, three films of RPATTZ and his mouth breathing and nostril flaring? Fuck you, WBDC, ugh.

If Warner Brothers reboots Superman it will be as original programming for HBO Max. No one wants to see another Superman origin story on the big screen again. At least so soon.

[quote]No one wants to see another Superman origin story on the big screen again. At least so soon.

Not just so soon, but at all. How many do we need for both Superman and Batman.

I'm not a Marvel fanboy,but at least they knew NOT to do another Spider Man origin movie when they introduced him into their movies.

The failure of WB/DC is that they are trying to hard to make money and have blockbusters that they seem to have forgotten to make good movies. They've mostly been Michael Bay movies without the artistry.

[Quote] If Warner Brothers reboots Superman it will be as original programming for HBO Max.

Why HBO and not the CW??

WarnerMedia only has a 50% stake in CW which itself may not be long for this world anyway given the youth demographic's abandonment of linear viewing. Meanwhile they are desperate to fill their new streaming service HBO Max with original, Warner-branded content.

R29 that makes sense.

[quote]Henry being out as Superman is like year old news.

Yep, old news, OP.

Henry and his manager talked him out of a job.

[Quote] Henry and his manager talked him out of a job.

Maybe he needs to get a new one.

[quote] They've mostly been Michael Bay movies without the artistry.

Tehe.

I hear he's going into bodybuilding.

R34 That doesn't bring in any money.

Hasn't he made all the money he needs? He doesn't have any ex-wives or kids.

Henry’s career seems to be on the downslide.

R36 He hasn't made much money. That's why he wanted his contract renegotiated.

[Quote] He doesn't have any ex-wives or kids.

Lol not yet.

[quote]Henry’s career seems to be on the downslide.

I'd say that he has a lot riding on the upcoming Witcher adaptation on Netflix.

Like the YA dystopian bandwagon of a few years back, everyone is jumping on the prestige fantasy adaptations since Game of Thrones ended. From the new Lord of the Rings tv show to Wheel of Time to another go round for Earthsea, there are so many vying for attention and dollars who knows if Witcher will stand out.

If it fails, I think we're likely going to be seeing a lot less of him in marquee roles.

R40 Shouldn't he do other projects in the meantime instead of putting all of his eggs in one basket?

I'm avialable!

I guess the Superman curse strikes again!

What is he going to do now? Personal trainer? I actually really liked him as Superman. How many damn Batman and Supermans are we going to get?

The success of Joker would indicate that even just wrapping a turd in a comic book wrapper with a whiff of super heroism will make young filmgoers FLOCK to the cinema so - no end in sight, I’m afraid.

Still R35, would love to see a totally jacked Henry Cavill in a posing pouch. Maybe he’s going to go the Ah-nuld route to reboot his career.

[quote]Maybe he’s going to go the Ah-nuld route to reboot his career.

Rumor is that he burned too many bridges, which is probably why WB refused to bring on McQ as writer/director for a possible MOS sequel. McQ was Cavill's suggestion, but as great as McQ is for Mission Impossible, they weren't biting.

R47 Who did he burn bridges with?

Warner Brothers and he even walked off the set of a movie, a year or two before he pissed off WB.

So Cavill is to WB what Andrew Garfield is to Sony?

Garfield pissed off the big heads at Sony, so they dropped him.

R49 Which set? and why?

If not for his borderline stalker here on DL, Henry Cavill's name would've been completely and totally out of the collective public conscience years ago.

R52

But But

The Durrell Creatures

R1 Dylan can play Superman's perpetually horny cousin, Jizzboy.

R54 he should make a cameo on Crisis 🤣

R54 Jizzboy's costume would of course include hotpants to show of his pert little hiney, the better to make the bad guys jizz themselves into submission.

R48 He had walked off the set of Stratton as a producer/actor. Just last year, he demanded more money and a sequel to made for Superman. WB wasn't in the giving mood. They wanted him to do a Shazam cameo and play nice. He did not oblige them.

[Quote] He had walked off the set of Stratton as a producer/actor.

Not a wise decision but that movie ended up being shit.

I feel like he is sabotaging himself.

R59 that's not a feeling babe, it's a fact.

In the meantime, this actor, who is ten years younger, will scoop up all the parts that could have went to him.

Nah, He's one flash away from looking like Brendan Fraiser in recent years

R61 who is he??

R63 the guy from The Politician these old goons obsess over.

R64 never heard of it or him 🤷‍♂️

Could have gone to him

Have a feeling they're gonna go a controversial route and cast an actor of color, keanu Reeves was wanted for superman returns originally for example.

They wanted Michael B Jordan

R67 how would that be controversial??

R68 was that actually confirmed?? Or just a rumour??

R69 I think that was just rumor. It was crazy after the news that Cavill was let go as Supes.

R70 that's what i thought. MBJ has already been in F4 and Black Panther. I'd think they would go with an unknown if they decided to do a movie about Val-Zod. And now there's rumours about 2 different SM characters getting their own show on HBO Max....

What would a SM show ok HBO be like?

R72 hopefully better than if it was on the CW.

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Cavill was perfect for Superman. HOT

I'm not understanding why he's out as Superman. He is not that old. I grew up in the seventies and loved Christopher Reeve. He made me excited about Superman again, Mr. Cavill. Now we're going to get some douchebag. It's just going to be like when we lost Heath ledger as the Joker. We ended up with that stupid ass pedophile Jared Leto.

[quote]'m not understanding why he's out as Superman. He is not that old.

He was a douche to the studio, who didn't want to make any Superman movies. They wanted him to do a cameo for Shazam, and he was playing hardball with no ball in the game.

[Quote] It's just going to be like when we lost Heath ledger as the Joker. We ended up with that stupid ass pedophile Jared Leto.

They lost Heath because he died. And Jared is no longer the Joker.

They have to go the comical direction with Superman. He's too perfect to be in these self serious films they keep making. Captain America had a perfect heart but he was far from physically all-powerful. That's why his movies worked.

Anyway, I don't know why they need to do live action Superman movies. Just keep him in animated movies to push your merchandise. He's just not an interesting character to write for.

It's official

That's a Greg Berlanti show, not a JJ Abrams show, you freaking dumbass.

Henry denys JJ access to his asshole anymore, and thus this happens.

Henry will continue his rise to the top of action adventure, and save the day with his iron tits of Glory and Fame.

Usually CW tries to get hot looking average people in their shows but they seem to have fucked up with Superman & Lois castings. I mean they're not even a little easy on the eyes.

Please dear mary not Michael bee Jordan...….NO

[Quote] That's a Greg Berlanti show, not a JJ Abrams show, you freaking dumbass.

The point is there clearly not planning on doing a Superman movie dumbass.

[Quote] Usually CW tries to get hot looking average people in their shows but they seem to have fucked up with Superman & Lois castings. I mean they're not even a little easy on the eyes.

Bitsie is average. Can't say the same for Tyler.

they wil make superman young ruff and punky

mark my words !!

[quote] The point is there clearly not planning on doing a Superman movie dumbass.

One has nothing to do with the other. Hence CW's The Flash and Erza Miller portraying the character in Justice League. Iterations of Batman/Bruce Wayne on Gotham and Teen Titans didn't effect the DCEU's version with Ben Affleck and soon to be Robert Pattinson. There's also talk that the character will make an appearance on Batwoman. Several DC characters have simultaneously been portrayed on the small screen and in the DCEU, including Deathstroke, Black Canary, Amanda Waller and the entire Suicide Squad.

This means that the CW is frantically looking for another flagship show. Other than The Flash, nearly all their DC properties seem to be limping along. Arrow is currently in its last season. Batwoman debuted with surprisingly low ratings - even for the CW. Supergirl has also been slipping in the ratings, as her Sunday at 9 pm timeslot has her up against Sunday Night Football and The Walking Dead. And Legends of Tomorrow and Black Lightning were probably never big audience draws.

Young people don't bother with linear television anymore. They stream everything. Absolutely no reason for CW to keep operating.

[Quote] Batwoman debuted with surprisingly low ratings - even for the CW.

Batwoman did great. CW doesn't care about live ratings. And a blurry Batman did show up for about five seconds. They still don't like to show him properly on tv shows.

Batwoman sucked ass. not even the good kind.

[Quote] Batwoman sucked ass. not even the good kind.

I'll take it over Arrow/Supergirl.

Oddly enough Cavill’s Superman was featured right at the end of today’s HBO Max sizzle reel

R93, Did you get a boner just then?

So both Adam Strange and Green Lantern are getting their own show on hbo max.

batwoman was lousey, mis cast and made for 11 yr olds ,,, it has maybe one more season left......that network has a buncha flops....arrow is pituful.

R96 you sound like an incel. It's not getting cancelled anytime soon.

R97 Him and the rest of the world think that way. Shitty rating will continue to plummet. they'll be lucky to get a second season out.

Off you go lezbo!

[Quote] Him and the rest of the world think that way. Shitty rating will continue to plummet. they'll be lucky to get a second season out.

Keep telling yourself that.

[Quote] Off you go lezbo!

Is that supposed to be an insult?

All he has to do is flop those majestic tittys at a producer, and he has the job.

R99 Your vaginal odor is already stinking up this thread.

Shoo frau!

So they’re planning a Superman show with that Tyler fellow and that Tootsie or Tully woman.

I think I’ll skip it. I never liked his casting as Supes.

R102 yes and they'll be parents too.

Lois at r81 looks like Superman's mom.

Henry is now trying to get the role back

It's ovah!

[Quote] "[Man of Steel?] A great starting point. If I were to go back, I don’t think I’d change anything. [Batman v Superman?] Very much a Batman movie. And I think that realm of darkness is great for a Batman movie. [Justice League?] It didn’t work," he said.

I mean, MOS wasn't the worst but really? You wouldn't change [italic] anything [/italic] ?

Younger, who isn't bald and can also act.

R109 like???

David Corenswet was born to play Superman.

Robert Wilson who plays Ben on Days of our Lives would be perfect!

Matt Lanter!!

[quote] Younger, who isn't bald and can also act.

Girl, bye. An actor doesn't need to be a master thespian to play a superhero (Jennifer Lawrence and Brie Larson are proof of that!) Oh, and here's another fact - the late, great Christopher Reeve wore a wig for all four Superman films.

Never heard of David Corenswet but he does look the part. Robert Wilson looks like a mixture of Peter Facinelli and Ian Nelson.

R114 likes pulling "facts" out of her asshole. Sure, Jan.

I'm the perfect Lois Lane.

R117

Enough with the Superman movies. Story has been told over and over. Plus it's not a particularly interesting character. Flawless characters are of a bygone era. This is the era of the tainted protagonist. The only way to do it half interesting is to make from Lois perspective. Investigating some shady Lex Luther plot and slowly discovering the dorky dude in the newsroom isn't all he seems. Hijinks ensue

R119 there was supposed to be a show called Metropolis on the DC streaming service that would focus on Lois and Lex. But I guess they passed on that idea once they got permission to give Superman his own series.

Superman benched from movies until at least 2023

Also, Warner confirms it will never release so-called "Snyder Cut"

Michael B. Jordan. Please, please, please let it be Michael B. Jordan.

R121 that makes sense with the new show coming. And R122 he's been in enough superhero movies. They should pick an unknown for Val-Zod.

[quote] Superman benched from movies until at least 2023

Not true. "Insiders think that a new Superman film is unlikely to hit screens before 2023, given that there’s no script and no director attached."

First of all, "insiders" are not the execs at WB, who don't seem to be particularly savvy. They just need to go on and shelf the character for the next decade and drop the idea about making a Van-El film. The fanboys lost their minds when Michael B. Jordan played Johnny Storm. Race swapping Superman ain't going to go over well at all. Now we have The Rock confirmed as Black Adam and dropping hints about wanting to fight Superman (guess the under performing Shazaam isn't enough to hype up the project....). Dany Garcia's brother, who's the producer on the film, came out with a statement that he's receptive to the idea. So Henry may be back in the cape after all.

Ummm it’s VARIETY not cosmic book news.com, you floating turd. Their sources are probably well placed.

Cosmic

Comical

Cosmical

That statement Henry made about not giving up felt more like he was trying to save face rather than accept the fact that he fucked up.

R125, I meant what I said. And I don't give a fuck whether it's Variety or The Daily Mail. If the quotes aren't coming directly from the mouths of Walter Hamada and the execs at WB, it's another bullshit clickbait article. Variety needs clicks just like any other media outlet. And you're a dumb bitch for falling for their foolishness.

Did your beady-eyed ass even read the article? Does it make sense to you that it cites a possible reason why Cavill's Superman under performed was because of the character's over saturation, yet the CW aka WARNER BROTHERS has just greenlit a Lois and Clark series? Cavill's Superman under performed because of the deviation to the character. Yet race swapping is a possible winning formula? GTFOH! The fanboys have already gone rabid over the wokeness of Star Wars and the MCU. And WB/DC's properties are no where near as resilient.

[Quote] Yet race swapping is a possible winning formula?

It wouldn't be race swapping since a black Superman does exist.

[quote] It wouldn't be race swapping since a black Superman does exist.

Outside of longtime Superman comics readers, who even knows this? The premise has to go over with general audiences too.

He needs to just stop. It's getting embarrassing. Remember Sean Young was trying to get Catwoman.

Another blind about Henry on Blind items today.

Then post a link to it, you worthless tube of cuntpaste.

[quote]Yet race swapping is a possible winning formula?

[quote]It wouldn't be race swapping since a black Superman does exist.

What Ghostbusters, Terminator Dark Fate, and Charlie's Angels demonstrate is that catering to a social agenda for movies with gender or race swapping has to take a back seat to making a good movie.

If every person whining about strong women characters had actually gone to see those movies, they wouldn't be the utter, money losing failures that they were.

The sad reality is that if you make a casting choice that is unpopular, and let's not kid ourselves about a black superman, the bar for how good the movie has to be is that much higher to drown out the negative buzz. It's possible, sure. But, it's not a safe financial bet for a $100mm+ movie.

R136 let's just see how Supergirl does first. I would've been cool with a tv show about Val-Zod. But fans are already attached to Tyler's version.

R135, are you the Thanksgiving Otter?

[quote]What Ghostbusters, Terminator Dark Fate, and Charlie's Angels demonstrate is that catering to a social agenda for movies with gender or race swapping has to take a back seat to making a good movie.

No, it only proves that if it wasn't on the page, it shouldn't be on the stage. Case in point, the first Charlie's Angels was a success and it had "race swapping" and Terminator always featured Linda Hamilton.

David Coronswet is now rumored to be in the minds of the WB execs as Supes.

[Quote] But studios grow impatient, and, though it would be a risky casting decision in replacing fan-favorite Cavill, Warner Bros. is reportedly shopping around.

Because as usual, the WB is known for making smart decisions.

I don't think it matters who plays Supes, because fans will go see whoever it is in the costume. If it works, it'll do well, if not. . .

Why would they get a new superman that looks just like the previous one. Lame

FFS they aren’t going to replace Cavill with Fetus Cavill.

They probably won’t make a Superman movie for another five years anyway.

Wait. Someone thinks the new Charlie’s Angels bombed because there was a black person? REALLY???

Someone to appeal to the "woke" generation would be helpful.

[Quote] Someone thinks the new Charlie’s Angels bombed because there was a black person? REALLY???

Ironically Ella was the only believable Angel.

People forget an Asian was in the 2000 movie, and cast after Thandie Newton dropped out.

[quote]What Ghostbusters, Terminator Dark Fate, and Charlie's Angels demonstrate is that catering to a social agenda for movies with gender or race swapping has to take a back seat to making a good movie.

[quote]No, it only proves that if it wasn't on the page, it shouldn't be on the stage. Case in point, the first Charlie's Angels was a success and it had "race swapping" and Terminator always featured Linda Hamilton.

No, what it actually proves is that you don't have good reading comprehension - or that you think you can obfuscate by tossing out non sequiturs to pretend to score points.

Anyone that believes Charlie’s Angels flopped because of Ella, of all people, are morons.

Idiot = R149

Idiot who can't write = R149

R134 What blind? Bother to add a link?

Now Snyder is confirming there is in fact a cut.

I think Henry didn't join in with the other JL way back when WB were first thinking about dropping Snyder. That's why Snyder didn't show Henry the cut.

Sounds like some of the Snyder fanboys aren't happy with what Henry said. And it wasn't even that bad.

Henry has been trying to get in good graces and keep his Superman role now.

His neutrality façade will always get him in trouble.

R157 He wasn't neutral. There was an article in which he questioned the purpose of the Synder cut and how he doubted how lucrative it could be. On top of that, during the JL filming, he pretty much jumped on the Whedon bandwagon.

R158 So being neutral indeed

I wouldn't mind seeing Henry work with Whedon again.

R159 Learn the definition of neutral. He clearly said that he doesn't see the movie being lucrative. Translation: He doesn't see the studio going in that direction if it doesn't make them money. It's shading Synder in that he's thinking it will bomb.

Clearly you don't understand public neutrality. Missing some brain cells R161

Nope, you tell me what it means.