FEDS: SET THERMOSTATS TO 82° WHILE YOU SLEEP!

The electric company keeps sending me a request I permit them to put an override on my heatpump so they can turn it off in peak hours. "Most people cannot tell the difference". For this they will give me $40 later.

Like hell.

If I set my thermostat at 82° I wouldn't be sleeping; I'd be passed out from dehydration after sweating out all my body's moisture.

Fuck. That.

I'd be fine with it, but I don't know if my neighbors would survive the toxic cloud!

Bitches be trippin'.

Why even have an air conditioner then?

If it isn't 67 or below, I am not sleeping. My ex wanted me to sleep over one night, first time in his house, and found out he doesn't like running the air much. I told him I would be seeing myself out.

That’s one good way to cull the older generation, I guess.

I’ll do whatever I want

I do 70 at night, anything more and I can't sleep. I also have an overhead fan on.

I set my a/c at 82 a few nights ago because the a/c kept turning itself on every five minutes and it was getting cold in my bedroom. I couldn’t sleep for two nights in a row until I remembered to put the thermostat back.

It’s set at 81 now and I sleep like a baby.

If you’re going to turn the a/c up, whether you’re gone or not, remember this: every degree over 80 cuts the life span of your canned food. The expiration dates on the can assume they will be kept at 80 degrees or below, and the expiration date is for that temperature range.

If you get up to 83 or so, then your batteries start corroding. I found that out the hard way when I turned the thermostat up and left for a few weeks. When I came back, all the remotes were dead and the batteries were corroded inside the remote. The batteries to the thermostat were dead too, and I had to change them before I could reset the temperature.

I know someone who completely shut off her a/c in the summer. An entire pack of almost new batteries in a drawer were corroded and had to be thrown away. If you’re going to leave town and want to turn the a/c down, store your batteries in a ziplock bag in the refrigerator. They’ll last longer. Just make sure it’s airtight. You can also damage electronics batteries, so keep that in mind if you want to shut the a/c off.

I live in florida and Id melt if I kept my air that high. 70 at night,76 during the day and Im not ever changing that.

OP types obese.

R11, it’s super humid in Florida, so it’s much worse. I live in the desert and the dry heat makes very high temps survivable.

It is supposedly optimal to sleep at a temp between 60 and 68. That’s a bit cold for me, but 70-72 works.

Being hot at night is the worst.

My thermostat is always set between 65 and 70, and I sleep with one of those Vornado fans pointed at my bed — twelve months per year.

I’m paying for it so I will set my air at what I want.

It sure won’t be 82, that’s a heat setting for the winter.

Let me guess, the government says 62 for heat.

At least in the winter you can put on blankets. I do turn the heat way down at night in the winter and sleep much better. I have lots of heavy blankets and flannel sheets though.

My sweating would raise sea levels, so the feds better decide which problem is bigger.

Is this a joke? I’m skinny and I can’t sleep unless it’s at least 73 degrees - preferably less.

I save on heating bills because I turn the heat down at night since my upstairs gets hot and I’m under blankets anyway. But summer? That air is staying ON!

R10 how old are you and what is your height and weight? Are you on blood thinners?

Whatever govt drudge wrote that must live in Southern California. Those are ideal settings for a normal LA summer. I'm in the San Fernando Valley and I keep my daytime temp set at 78 and nighttime at 80. Which is to say it is off from about a half hour after sunset until the following afternoon. It cools down very fast as soon as the sun goes down and is generally in the low 60's all night. Very nice sleeping weather with just a fan. Close the house up in the morning and the a/c is set to come on about an hour before I get home, so the house is nice and cool. In all, the a/c runs maybe 5-6 hours a day during the week, longer on the weekends. But that's with very low humidity and daytime highs in the low 90's. Don't know what I'd do on the east coast in summer.

R21 is right. 78 in low humidity is fine with a ceiling fan.

With humidity, not so much.

When it’s regularly over 100 degrees here in Palm Springs, I keep it at 74-75 night and day. Any less and it would never turn off. Besides, I’m somewhat acclimated to the heat and 70 would be freezing for me.

Even with the air conditioning running with the thermostat set on 73, the humidity in my bedroom is about 55 percent.

For those who live alone, just cool your bedroom with a portable or window AC, instead of the whole house/apartment/condominium, etc. with your central unit.

FFS I'd sweat my ass off.

64F is about perfect for sleeping; otherwise 68F. There was a hilarious thread about this on twitter that kept me entertained

So for all you sweat hogs who need your room to be below 70˚ for a good night's rest, I take it summer camping is out of the question?

Who would camp during the summer with all the bugs and snakes and chupacabra? No thank you.

I hate summer anyway, and with global warming now...ugh

Our house's thermostat is in a terrible location so setting it to 72 means it's 75 everywhere else, and that's a little too hot for sleeping.

Even on the hottest days, my AC would barely run if set to 82. Whem I was a poor college student with no AC, the apartment stayed 82 with just a fan except for a couple hours in the afternoon.

There aren't many places in the US where the overnight temp would be above 78 routinely. Parts of Florida, Texas and the SW US during the summer mostly.

Overnight temps and temps inside your house are 2 different things, r32.

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Not so much, R33. Open a fucking window.

I would never sleep. Fuck them.

I cool my bedroom to 72˚ overnight with a 5000 BTU window AC that I bought so I could turn off my central AC at night.

I did the math and it cools for 6¢ per hour using my local electricity rate. Now keep in mind that once 72˚ is reached, the compressor comes on and off as needed to maintain temperature .. so really it cools for less than 6¢ per hour. I estimate it cools for about 15¢-20¢ per night, *much, much cheaper* than using the central AC to achieve the same bedroom temperature.

When I start my day, I turn off the bedroom AC and turn my central AC back on.

Screw the Feds .. they don't pay my electricity bill and they obviously have never tried to sleep in an 82˚ bedroom in a high humidity state. Their intent is to help Americans save energy. Well, I am saving energy ... AND sleeping well with my own improvised method!

I keep my thermostat at 78° during the day in the hot summer months but I turn it down to 74° when I go to bed. And I have a ceiling fan in every room. I've tried sleeping with the temperature left at 78° at night and there's just no way. I wake up after an hour or so feeling like I'm burning up even with nothing but a sheet over me.

I have to have it at least 72 with and overhead fan. It's not healthy to sleep hot. The best sleep is gotten in a chilly room and under blankets.

"It's not healthy to sleep hot."

Gee, how did you get here?

All your forbears live in places without hot summers?

More important, why is OP reading right wing self-loathing close fag Matt 'Miss Fudge' Drudge?

R40 and WHERE are those forbears now?? All dead, that's where!

Can't tolerate even the slightest heat when I'm in bed. I turn my heat completely off at night in the winter months. I like the room to be ice cold at night and even crack the balcony door open a couple of inches. I sleep on an electric mattress pad and under a thick comforter. Best sleeping in the world.

My Mussy would get too sweaty at 82 degrees!

Fuck that. I'm just one person, I will keep my house at a comfortable temperature year round. They should go after offices, stores, and public buildings that are either freezing in the summer or stifling in the winter. Look at any major city skyline and see all the lights (and assuming computers) left on 24/7. That's where conservation efforts would have an impact.

^^^ A typical "not my problem, it's theirs" nudnick.

Not in a million fucking years. The ideal sleeping temperature is around 65, and my thermostat is at 68 at night.

A big reason that corporations can keep sucking employees and customers dry is because we have a pretty good standard of living, even for people in lower incomes. By that I mean everyone has some a/c unit of some kind, and a good refrigerator and running water, climate control in warehouses, things like that. Once the government starts to impose rules on how much water we can use and how low we can set the a/c because of global climate change problems and loss of energy sources, people will not be able to spend as much or work as much.

I know this guideline isn't a rule but I suspect we will have rules soon enough. We're going to end up back in the early 1900s as far as lifespan and working conditions.

This is step one. Step two, any new thermostat manufactured after 2020 will be remote-controlled by the government. After all, THEY know what's best for us, even more than WE do!

R49 Exactly.

Probably controlled by the electricity and gas companies who do what the government tells them to, but yes. All this smart home stuff that others like your energy company and Amazon and Google can access is going to come back to haunt us.

Paranoid conservatism is rampant in this thread.

Why has The Datalounge become a social media site for deplorables and their paranoid conspiracy loon stories?

First the low-flow toilets and showers, now this.

Wholesale kool aid drinking is running rampant these days, I can't imagine how many Jonestown-types are already going to bed at the recommended temperature, only to wake up soaked in sweat at 12:30am

Maybe if they'd force all the skyscrapers in every city in America to turn off the billions of lights, including all the spotlights they love to keep running all night long the power consumption would decrease drastically.

Houses are usually 10 degrees hotter than the outside temp R35.

Doesn't native Texan Rick Perry head the DOE? I'd like to see him follow that advice. From the comfort of my 73 degree home.

R54 -- don't forget to curse the new light bulbs the government rammed down your throat!

Its a ruse! The Feds know global warming is real! They are trying to get us acclimated!!!

82° sounds uncomfortable and unhealthy.

You’d also want to put covers on your furniture so you don’t stink them up with sweat. I know it says “at night”, but it’ll happen.

I keep my place around 68° - 74°. My electric company tells me I use about average energy. Not more than my worst neighbors, nor less than the better neighbors. I can’t imagine how they’re burning up more energy than I.

[quote] R32: Not so much, [R33]. Open a fucking window.

The trick, I think, is to keep your blinds drawn to block direct sunlight. It’s better than opening your windows, if you’re going to work. Once your place is already too hot, then opening the windows in the evening might be helpful.

I bought Mylar roller shades for all my windows in a dark smoky grey tone. They block out the sun and I don't have to keep the drapes drawn during the heat of the day. I get claustrophobic when I can't see outside. My A/C doesn't run nearly as much since I had them installed. If the temps are not hot they can be rolled up completely out of view.

I live in Florida and I keep my AC in at 80 for most of the day. I turn it down to 75, 1-2 hours before bed, and then back to 80 at bedtime. I guess I have just have a high tolerance for heat compared to people here. My light bill is also affordable.

FOH with your Ronald Reagan memes, R50.

I read recently that it takes less energy to keep a home at a given temperature around the clock than to cool or heat to a comfortable temperature in the evenings once you get home. I'm giving it a try, and will see how my electric bills compare after a couple of months.

I can already tell you my cats are not thrilled by this plan, though being forced to huddle together for warmth seems to be cutting down on their fighting.

I live in Ventura county, CA. Last month my power bill was about $27.00. 1800 sq ft house.

I dont run the air much.

75 or 76 is really cold. I don't have to use my air conditioner or heat that much at all during the year, but I've had to turn on the AC a few times this summer for a couple of hours. 75 made me freezing!

When I was in the desert, 77 or 78 was just fine.

More money than sense = using anything more than a light sheet in summer.

My SIL insists she must sleep under a blanket year around. To do this they must cool their house to 68˚-70˚ every night in summer. Stoopid!

R68 is one of my "where's my cardigan, it's FREEZING in here!" office frau co-workers.

You’re still running a dehumidifier 24/7 or it smells like a porn set.

Familiar with what pron sets smell like, are ya?

82F at night? Just fucking smother me with a pillow.

I don’t think OP is right.

At night I just open a window and turn on a fan, works for most of the summer, except on really hot evenings.

R75 is either 100 years old or very poor.

No, R75, you're missing the point of this thread. They're taking away OUR FREEDOMZ!!!1!!

Do any other DLers in the South have experience with what we called an "attic fan" but other people might call a "whole house fan?"

These things were great! They really helped sleeping on hot summer nights. The cooler nighttime air would come streaming through the open windows. Most people had their attic fans on a timer switch, like us.

Soon as my parents had central air installed in the early '60s, they disabled the one in our house.

I haven't lived in a house with one, but I'm familiar with them.

R73, impossible. The pillow would keep slipping off if it were that hot inside.

Oh R78 ,that brings back wonderful memories ! My great aunt and uncle lived in a tiny old farmhouse outside Waycross Ga and they had one of those.Even in the deepest heat of summer youd have to pull a light cover over yourself at night.How clearly I remember the breeze coming through the window,the smell of the night air,the cool clean sheets (my great aunt ironed and starched everything) ,the hum of the fan running. My great aunt and uncle were lovely people of modest means but my most cherished childhood memories include their little old farmhouse.

So, $850 for a linen coverlet is reasonable given these guidelines?

For the paranoid: The government will not directly turn down your thermostats via smart technology or make it illegal to heat or cool your house beyond a certain point, nor will they force utilities do anything like that. They can't do that in the US because there would too much of an outcry.

Instead, the thing to be paranoid about in modern America is indirect control. They won't make you turn your thermostats down, but they might pass regulations that would make HVAC systems more efficient but less effective, so that over time it becomes impossible to cool your house below a certain point. Or they might start taxing energy incrementally, similar to progressive income taxes - the more you use, the higher your energy tax rate.

In Western society, TPTB have moved beyond crude, dictatorial methods (except for one Day-Glo orange person who didn't get the memo) into more sophisticated, less direct, means of coercion.

[quote] Instead, the thing to be paranoid about in modern America is indirect control. They won't make you turn your thermostats down, but they might pass regulations that would make HVAC systems more efficient but less effective, so that over time it becomes impossible to cool your house below a certain point. Or they might start taxing energy incrementally, similar to progressive income taxes - the more you use, the higher your energy tax rate.

This is basically what has happened in Europe, and why going over there in summer is now an absolute misery. In hotels, it’s impossible to get a room to cool below 85 or so in a heatwave. I was in Berlin in a massive heatwave a couple of years ago and was astonished walking into a hotel lobby that had zero cooling and looking at the absolutely miserable people there. Airport the same. Subways the same. EVERYWHERE the same. It was awful. Such a difference to the Asian countries which have cooling everywhere (on the streets!) and it’s kept absolutely Arctic.

Everything that happens in Europe happens over here ... everyone knows this, especially about universal health care.

If they come for my air conditioning I'll be exercising those Second Amendment rights the NRA's so devoted to, stat!

Oh hell no. No way am I going above 80.

I looked at OP's link and I cannot find anywhere where it recommends 82˚ for sleeping.

I think OP might just be one of those foreign trolls.

Yeah, OP is full o' shit. Link does not say 82˚

R78, you're right about attic fans, except at the height of the humid summers in Louisiana and Texas! I loved the houses that had them when I was younger. I tried to have one installed when I bought my home in NC, but was told it wasn't feasible due to the design.

R32 obviously hasn't lived in the Southeast or the lower part of the Atlantic seaboard during the summers. Even in DC and Virginia, the nights are often above 80, with the humidity higher than that.

I keep my home about 70- 72 at night during the summer and early fall, and under 65 during cold weather.

are these people crazy?.........my AC is set to 73 year-round.........I live in Dallas, and believe me, with 100% humidity 73 is not that cool........still sweat all the time because of the "feels like" temperature equation................