Now that the heat is off Ghislaine...

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Part II of the Where is Ghislaine Maxwell? thread

Complete with book recommendations, from Jeffrey Epstein's Amazon receipts

(1) SM 101: A Realistic Introduction, Wiseman, Jay;

(2) SlaveCraft: Roadmaps for Erotic Servitude – Principles, Skills and Tools by Guy Baldwin

(3) Training with Miss Abernathy: A Workbook for Erotic Slaves and Their Owners, by Christina Abernathy

Dyke

Why exactly is the heat off her?

Who the hell knows! She's not in police custody, is she? Is she being interrogated?

Complete with unsealed court documents

What's it called, false imprisonment of a minor? Stealing her passport?

[quote]Rinaldo Rizzo was the house manager for one of Defendant [Ghislaine Maxwell]’s close friends, Eva Dubin. Mr. Rizzo testified - through tears – how, while working at Dubin’s house, he observed Defendant bring a 15 year old Swedish girl to Dubin’s house. In distress, the 15 year old girl tearfully explained to him that Defendant tried to force her to have sex with Epstein through threats and stealing her passport:

[quote]Q. How old was this girl?

[quote]A. 15 years old.

[quote]***

[quote]Q. Describe for me what the girl looked like, including her demeanor and anything else you remember about her when she walks into the kitchen.

[quote]A. Very attractive, beautiful young girl. Makeup, very put together, casual dress. But she seemed to be upset, maybe distraught, and she was shaking, and as she sat down, she sat down and sat in the stool exactly the way the girls that I mentioned to you sat at Jeffrey’s house, with no expression and with their head down. But we could tell that she was very nervous.

[quote]Q. What do you mean by distraught and shaking, what do you mean by that?

[quote]A. Shaking, I mean literally quivering.

[quote]***

[quote]Q. What did she say?

[quote]A. She proceeds to tell my wife and I that, and this is not -- this is blurting out, not a conversation like I’m having a casual conversation. That quickly, I was on an island, I was on the island and there was Ghislaine, there was Sarah, she said they asked me for sex, I said no. And she is just rambling, and I’m like what, and she said -- I asked her, I said what? And she says yes, I was on the island, I don’t know how I got from the island to here. Last afternoon or in the afternoon I was on the island and now I’m here. And I said do you have a -- this is not making any sense to me, and I said this is nuts, do you have a passport, do you have a phone? And she says no, and she says Ghislaine took my passport. And I said what, and she says Sarah [probably Sarah Kellen] took her passport and her phone and gave it to Ghislaine Maxwell, and at that point she said that she was threatened. And I said threatened, she says yes, I was threatened by Ghislaine not to discuss this. And I’m just shocked. So the conversation, and she is just rambling on and on, again, like I said, how she got here, she doesn’t know how she got here. Again, I asked her, did you contact your parents and she says no. At that point, she says I’m not supposed to talk about this. I said, but I said: How did you get here. I don’t understand. We were totally lost for words. And she said that before she got there, she was threatened again by Jeffrey and Ghislaine not to talk about what I had mentioned earlier, about -- again, the word she used was sex.

[quote]Q. And during this time that you’re saying she is rambling, is her demeanor continues to be what you described it?

[quote]A. Yes.

[quote]Q. Was she in fear?

[quote]A. Yes.

[quote]Q. You could tell?

[quote]A. Yes.

[quote]A. She was shaking uncontrollably.

Author of the book Maxwell chose to be reading when she was photographed the other day.

Could someone copy & paste the WP article? I can't access it.

The sex is secondary to what they were really doing. The teenage slaves were just a hobby, not their business. But it’s disgusting nonetheless.

Illegal hobbies always matter a little bit more, especially when they involve the sexual exploitation of minors. And as soon as it is factually done, it becomes "real". This is not a distraction. It's part of the puzzle.

I have a job and I have hobbies. Which are more real? The job or the hobbies?

Can we just admit that her female privilege in this #metoo era will prevent her from ever being charged or jailed. That’s why she’s so fucking smug in that photo.

Ghislaine Maxwell officially identified as a troll:

[quote]Ms. Sjoberg’s account of her experiences with Defendant [Ghislaine Maxwell]: Defendant, a perfect stranger, approached Ms. Sjoberg while trolling Ms. Sjoberg’s school grounds. She lured Ms. Sjoberg into her and Epstein’s home under the guise of a legitimate job of answering phones, a pretext that lasted only a day.

Yeah Maxwell will get away with it totally because she’s female and not, you know, because SHE’S CIA.

Butter Face

We don't even know if she's CIA, MI6, Mossad or KGB!

She’s none of the above. What she is, is a psychotic lesbian with a God complex.

She's clearly a psychotic Lesbian. You can smell that labia from here.

From the Washington Post article:

“...But wait a minute. Something is off here. I am reading the most recent Amazon review of the book, dated August 15, 2019 — Thursday — by a certain “G. Maxwell.” Could it be? “A good friend of mine died recently under very tragic circumstances. Some of us saw it coming for quite a while but it was still a huge shock when it finally happened. I picked up this book at the advice of a friend and absolutely couldn’t put it down.”

Okay, I guess it couldn’t be. But someone was admirably quick with the fake review: “I’d read it walking the dog, getting fast food, or even just lounging around the house. It helped me realize that my friend really believed in something and that giving your life for the CIA, NSA, FBA, Mossad, or other intelligence agency is truly a higher calling and not something to mourn. A wholehearted recommendation.”

Five stars. How can I complain?”

Goodreads offers a free preview. Reviews say the book is repetitive and very depressing.

There was a link to her reader's profile in the previous thread. It goes back to 2012, the year she launched her non-profit and probably tried to reinvent herself as a philantropist following Jeffrey Epstein's initial conviction as a level 3 sex offender.

[quote]The reviews started the same year she launched her ocean preservation cover, in 2012. It starts with Fifty Shades Freed, believe it or not...

[quote]Some are brazen choices: Monsters in the Dark by Pepper Winters "This is a dark and sometimes painful study of twisted desire and human trafficing. Both the main characters seem to revel in the painful aspects of sex with plenty of blood shed during lovemaking. The scenes of sex slavery and the kidnapping rings are very graphic and difficult to read at times but Winter keeps you enthralled if horrified. This couple deserves some happiness after the events portrayed although you are never sure they will get it. A good story but tough to take at times. It kept me awake at night."

[quote]It continues: Claudia Must Die by T. B. Markinson "Kind of an odd group of characters. Everyone is dysfunctional and sociopathic. The climax is somewhat anti and I really didn't bond with any of the characters. A fair story but not enthralling."

[quote]You won't be finding any George Eliot or F. Scott Fitzgerald, but if anyone is looking for tips on the likes of "a very engaging dirty story", they've come to the right place!

She needs to plead that she was also a slave. That people had 'stuff' on her and forced her into procuring girls for them. She'll become a %me2 star and get lucrative speaking engagements and book deals.

From the unsealed court documents

Partially written in legalese, still JizzLane doesn't come off well:

[quote]Defendant [Ghislaine Maxwell] supports her contention that she did not recruit Ms. Giuffre [Virginia Roberts, 16 years old at the time]for sex with Epstein based on the fact that Ms. Giuffre lived independently of her parents before meeting Epstein and Ms. Maxwell. (Of course, a child outside the supervision of her parents makes it much more likely she would be recruited by Defendant into sex trafficking, but that is for the jury to decide.) That fact does not go to whether or not Defendant’s statement calling Ms. Giuffre a liar is true, because Ms. Giuffre never made any claims relating to where she lived prior to meeting Defendant. Moreover, it is immaterial with whom she was living: the fundamental and overarching fact remains that Defendant recruited Ms. Giuffre for sex with Epstein when she was a minor child.

[quote]Defendant next proffers Ms. Giuffre’s limited high school enrollment and short-term jobs that she held as evidence that she and Epstein did not abuse her. The logic of this position is unclear. The fact that Ms. Giuffre worked at Taco Bell for a few days hardly establishes she was not abused by Defendant and Epstein. Indeed, if anything its shows the vulnerability of Ms. Giuffre to enticements that a billionaire and his wealthy and powerful girlfriend could offer. In any event, what to make of such fact is something for the jury to consider. They are irrelevant for the same reason as above: Ms. Giuffre never made any claims about her studies or her prior employment. Indeed, neither Ms. Giuffre’s statement about being recruited by Defendant as a child, nor Defendant’s refutation even mentions Ms. Giuffre’s lack of schooling or lack of a stable home as a child. Purported facts that have nothing to do with Ms. Giuffre’s claims of sexual abuse against Defendant, and nothing to do with Defendant calling Ms. Giuffre a liar for such claims, do not establish the “substantial truth” of Defendant’s statement.

[quote]Ms. Giuffre never asked to be sexually abused or trafficked by Defendant or convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein when she was a child – legally, she did not even have the capacity to consent. Defendant cannot recruit a minor child for sexual exploitation and then, afterwards, argue that her victim injected herself into the public controversy when coming forward about the abuse she suffered.

[quote]This Court has previously covered this ground when it clearly stated:

[quote]Sexual assault of a minor is a clear-cut issue; either transgression occurred or it did not. Either Maxwell was involved or she was not. The issue is not a matter of opinion, and there cannot be differing understandings of the same facts that justify diametrically opposed opinion as to whether Defendant was involved in Plaintiff’s abuse as Plaintiff has claimed. Either Plaintiff is telling the truth about her story and Defendant’s involvement, or Defendant is telling the truth and she was not involved in the trafficking and ultimate abuse of Plaintiff.

R24 Her story so far being that Jeffrey Epstein was "A good friend of mine" (posted 2 days ago) will make it complicated to claim she was actually his slave.

She thought he was her friend but therapy has now made her realize she was his slave. Totally under his thumb. #metoo

Haha Jizzlane

Now, who else was a good friend of Ghislaine Maxwell?

There's Pepe Fanjul, vice chairman and president of Flo-Sun, who together with his brother controls a sugar and real estate business valued at US$8.2 billion.

Another close buddy, no doubt.

I'm hoping that New York's new Child Victim's Act, and the resurrection of the Epstein accusations... is a plot to bring down Trump.

You know he's balled a few teens.

Could that be... Robert Maxwell in the far right of that picture?

This looks like one of the opening shots for a porno, at the very beginning when they're still fully clothed

She reminds me of Angelica Huston, somewhat.

In the pic at R34, Trump looks like a wax statue of himself.

The head of adult Alfalfa Switzer on the body of a young woman.

Interesting , but ultimately very off putting

From the author of the CIA book

[quote]And so I savor the moment, taking my magnifying glass to the New York Post photo plastered on its front page, trying to get a good look at the book open on the table before Maxwell. Alas, the angle is all wrong and the title obscured. Given that she apparently has been trying to avoid publicity, the least she could have done was hold the book over her face. Never mind that she has been portrayed lately as the queen of sleaze, or that she was hanging out at an In-N-Out Burger joint; we backlist authors are in no position to be choosy.

Back then

Oy!

Hola.com fucked up their own link https://www.hola.com/hello/hellonet/2000/he0629s3.htm

My favourite article so far

They ran honeypots for intelligence services, R11, the sex was not a hobby.

She looks soooo much like her father.

I'm going to try to find a pic of her mother. I wonder if she favors her at all.

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She was his favorite child

Why has this cunt not been arrested?

Now this is a photo from 2010 where Jizz Lane looks quite the part.

Excuse me! It's Jizz LALane!

R50 Look at the fashions (slip dress, fringed top) and at Melania’s level of plastic surgery. That photo was taken around 2000.

What the hell is Melania trying to do in that photo, anyway?

Also I have yet to see a picture of Ghislaine Maxwell where she’s managed to dress herself attractively. Everything she wears is sort of weird-looking and unfortunate.

I have the feeling that she had a rather unconventional and inappropriate relationship with her dad, kind of like Dump and Ivanka. Just a hunch.

R55 Daddyfuckers are always beyond fucked up and sometimes evil. I’m an Incest Survivor magnet, I know.

Yeah she’s shady as fuck.

We still don’t even know what continent she’s on. How can we not know this??

Unclear as to when those in and out burger photos were actually taken. Could have been a month ago. Could have been last week.

Are there any pictures of her actually holding the CIA book, or just the journalist’s say so?

She could be in Meyreuil for all we know (south of France).

Back to square one

Prince Andrew and G Maxwell continued.

Andrew picked up a nice tan in Spain, I see.

More on the Maxwell family at link.

I do not think any journalist was involved with that photo or book narrative. It was a composed photo meant to send multiple messages that was planted in the NY Post. The title of the book was part of the messaging, the actual book on the table is irrelevant.

Agreed, r63

That's her "I'm a smart architect" look, r50.

From a poster at Reddit: (links have been edited to take out http:):

Any mention of the "daily regular" who took the Ghislaine photos has been scrubbed from the NY Post article What it used to say:

A source told The Post that a daily regular took the photo.

“He’s at In-N-Out every single day,” the source said. “He went up to her and asked, ‘Are you who I think you are?’ She replied, ‘Yes, I am.'”

What it says now:

The Post found the socialite hiding in plain sight in the least likely place imaginable — a fast-food joint in Los Angeles.

Original article: archive.fo/ixyXP

Current (altered) article: archive.fo/E3iGC

R62, From your link, "her brother-in-law Al Seckel, giver of TED talks on optical illusions, reportedly fell to his death in 2015 after he was exposed as a swindler in Los Angeles.

We also looked at the family tree of her other brother-in-law, an American astrophysicist whose genius rocket scientist father Frank Malina at the Jet Propulsion Lab in California pioneered what would become NASA before he fled to France with J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men on his heels."

There's another BIL who was a buddy of L Ron Hubbard's. Something (the high waters) was reminiscent of that org.

Quite a tale, eh, R67. Spooky family.

More about Ghislaine and her whereabouts, including her relationship with the Boston tech executive.

...

In 2016, it was as if she’d disappeared. “I have not seen her in a zillion years,” said one acquaintance recently, the type who would run into her on the New York social circuit’s endless round of boutique openings and gala dinners and fashion shows. Speculation veered wildly: The islands? London? Europe?

Now, it seems, Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime friend, apparent employee, and alleged co-conspirator, was closer than that. For the past few years, as the Daily Mail first revealed on Wednesday, the 57-year-old has been living in and outside of Boston. Four people who’ve met with her there said that she’s been in a relationship with a Boston-based tech entrepreneur, Scott Borgerson. Borgerson, in interviews this week, said, “I am not dating Ghislaine” and described her as a “former friend”; meanwhile, all four people said they understood the relationship to be, or that it had been described to them as, romantic. (Borgerson did not respond to requests by phone and email for comment.)

Borgerson, 43, shares Maxwell’s love of the ocean. He graduated with honors from the Coast Guard Academy and got a Ph.D. in international relations from Tufts’ Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. In 2009, he co-founded CargoMetrics, a tech company that brings data analytics to bear on global trade by sea, using its findings to inform investments, consult on fleet optimization, and create new products for the industry. He still serves as its CEO.

Maxwell and Borgerson have been acquainted since at least 2013, when he was listed, for one year, as a director of her oceans-conservation nonprofit, the TerraMar Project, on federal tax filings. In June 2014, the two spoke together at “Governing the Ocean Commons: Growing Challenges, New Approaches,” an event sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, where Borgerson was a visiting fellow.

In 2015, Maxwell was battling Virginia Roberts Giuffre, one of Epstein’s accusers, in federal court. The case was finally settled out of court two years later. By then, Maxwell was involved with Borgerson and had moved to Massachusetts. In 2016, she sold her Upper East Side mansion for a little more than $15 million. That year, Tidewood LLC, a limited-liability corporation, bought a parcel of land in Manchester-by-the-Sea, a scenic town about 35 miles outside of Boston, for $2,450,000. Minutes from a Manchester-by-the-Sea zoning-board meeting two years later would identify the homeowner behind Tidewood as Scott Borgerson.

An acquaintance of Borgerson’s counseled him through his divorce from the mother of his two children and socialized with him and Maxwell near the beginning of their relationship. “I did know about her background with Jeffrey Epstein,” the acquaintance said, “but I didn’t understand the extent until it all came to the fore.” Maxwell never spoke about it to him.

The acquaintance called Maxwell an “incredibly well-read and educated” woman who could be insightful but also manipulative. As to his friend Borgerson, “he changed pretty dramatically,” he said: the way he dressed, the way he spoke. “Despite the qualms, I think the money and the connections she presented to him were too good to resist.”

Photographs taken by the Daily Mail show a lavish house, and in 2018, Borgerson applied to the zoning board for permission to add “a natural swimming pool and a new two-story, two-car garage attached addition with a second floor in-law apartment.” Locals have spotted Maxwell around the Manchester-by-the-Sea property.

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With JE supposedly dead will G Maxwell be questioned about the following, as she was his top assistant/procurer?

It's unbelievable that she's not been wanted for questioning, on anything, given all the corroborating evidence there is against her.

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I’m a true crime fan, and two of the best ways for getting rid of evidence are 1) burning it and 2) physically covering it, whether in paint or concrete. DNA, fingerprints, fiber evidence - all destroyed.

Wasn’t there a fire on Epstein‘s island not too long ago?

I would like to know Ghislaine Maxwell's place of residence, so that I can personally send her a turd via post.

I read somewhere that there were underground tunnels that were blown up. The Egyptian temple was said to have been burned, but first the gold roof was removed and it was partly dismantled.

We may have been told she was his assistant/ex, etc, but it seems more likely that she was a handler. The UK Foreign Office linked her to multiple intelligence agencies years ago in released documents.

The more the focus is on JE as a bad man, the more it is kept off the honeypots he ran for multiple intelligence services and the money that was laundered into transhumanistic research. All those flights were likely moving more than girls, what was in the cargo holds?

GM spoke multiple languages, flew helicopters (including Clinton!) and piloted submarines. Seems a bit like James Bond? Known personal and family connections to intelligence operations of multiple countries? Connect the dots.

It must be extraordinarily expensive to create underground tunnels and rooms on an island. Yet, it is known to have had a submarine port. When the roof was taken off the temple, there is drone footage going down below the floor. Spooky stuff!

Just looked it up, fires and explosions were reported at the end of 2018, beginning of 2019. There are photos online.

He was originally to go to trial at the end of March 2018 but it was delayed by the 4th Circuit. The delay obviously allowed for some cleaning.

If G Maxwell was arrested would she act in the same manner as JE such as depositing $$$ into the accounts of 3 fellow prisoners?

She is hot!

Anyone with the money to do so would be wise to, R78. She is even smaller than JE. Why not buy protection if you can? He paid lawyers to sit in a room 12 hours per day just so he could get out of his cell. In that situation, what else is $ for - her dog?

The plan had been to rehabilitate his cover and continue on. When it was clear that it was not feasible, cleaning commenced.

The only photo of GM that can be somewhat dated is from the talk at the school in MA, purportedly in Jan 2019. She may have an altered appearance and who knows if he was killed or switched out? Multiple broken bones in his neck sounds like he had help, unless all the drama and chaos just created a pretext for his extraction. It is possible that what he knows from running the various honeypots is still of value to his masters even if further collection in the same cover is no longer possible. Who knows? I doubt we poors ever will.

R81 What photo from her talk at the school in MA? Haven't seen one.

For the right price, you can have her, R79.

r81 you need to spend a little less time on Infowars

I recognized that In n Out. It's in Sherman Oaks I think. I've been there many times.

I do think that Epstein is really dead - times have changed, and he wasn’t going to get away with a slap on the wrist like previously. Unclear if he had help or not. Suicide assistance or outright murder, who knows?

I haven’t kept up with this story. Why is the heat off this ugly bitch now?

The plot thickens. Christine Maxwell spotted packing up bags near home where sister G was rumoured to be staying.

Christine Maxwell of 1994-2001 search engine Magellan. These women are not just your ordinary family. Submarine pilots, inventors...

The real story is far, far bigger than Epstein, R86. Do you genuinely think he was some independent actor?

Even where Jizzy was photographed was a message/double entendre/fuck you : "In-N-Out", as a statement that she was "in" that life,and now she's "out", a smug statement that she was "in" view of the public, and now she won't be seen in public again, and a cheeky reference to the sexual abuse she and Epstein subjected their victims to.

Epstein was kept alive, these people are sickos but don't see it and protect each other. He will be back to walking amongst us with a whole new face in no time, and back to acquiring young girls.

R89 I said I thought Epstein might have been murdered or at the very least assisted in his suicide. Murder means someone made a plan and killed him. How could he have acted alone if someone killed him?

I was referring to his not being an independent actor in LIFE, R92, was not responding to your post. Sorry for any confusion.

If JE was not working for multiple security services and protected by them, he would have been taken out years ago. Instead, the opposite, see remarks of Acosta. The narrative of rogue bad man serves a purpose and will continue to be pushed.

Agreed – Epstein was/is being protected by the intelligence agencies. There’s no other reasonable explanation for why he was allowed to operate in plain sight for so long.

And the Acosta quote is very believable – remember there was a FISA warrant approved for the Trump transition team, so there may even be a recording of that conversation where Acosta says he was told to back off on Epstein because Epstein was an intelligence asset.

So Jizzie already paid off Virginia?

r94 the other reason is that he was SUPER WEALTHY and had a lot of incriminating information on other super wealthy people. He doesn't need to be a spy or some criminal mastermind.

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Thanks, R97. DM is bringing it on the EP stories.