[quote]There is no point in "learning" from you, because much of what you claim as history is demonstrably false.
Which part was false? The revolt? The Romans renaming Judea Palestina to punish those uppity Jews?
[quote]But the Jews have NO historical claim on northern Israel.
Jews lived in the North after the destruction of Jerusalem and the Roman exile. Including a Jew called Jesus.
[quote]When the British partitioned Palestine, they didn't partition it into historical Judea for the Jews and apportion the rest to the Palestinians
Mandated Palestine included what is today Jordan. Which the Brits gave as a present to King Abdullah for helping them drive the Turks out of the region. What was left was partitioned. Which the Arabs rejected.
[quote]But Israel was CREATED to take in Jewish refugees.
Rubbish! That's like saying Pakistan was CREATED to take in refugees.
[quote]But the Israelis block all ships from coming to Gaza and the West Bank has no ports or railways. How exactly are the Palestinians supposed to become self-supporting?
Egypt shares a border with Gaza, which curiously never factors in to the Israel is the cause of Gazan misfortune. Those VERY self-sufficient Gazans don't have any trouble digging tunnels (run by clans loyal to Hamas) to smuggle in everything from cars to mobile phones to Iran-supplied missiles. Egypt takes a "tariff" on the smuggled goods. When Hamas gets greedy, Egypt destroys the tunnels. Which are redug within a week. Then the game begins again.
[quote]They are alive, they eat, they have some form of housing.
Four UN agencies take care of food, education and health. Some form of housing? You mean the lovely villas in Ramallah, Jericho, Bethlehem, Gaza City, Khan Yunis that even Americans would envy. All paid for by those generous American ($880 million), the UN and international donors. Talk about the most pampered "refugees" on Earth.
[quote]But there are road blocks even going from village to village and numerous checkpoints making any kind of business virtually impossible to run or maintain.
And yet there are numerous businesses running all over the West Bank producing everything from olive oil to spices to tinned fruits and vegetables to pastries to tourism. Which are allowed to function, as long as the PA gets their cut.
[quote]the governments of the Gaza and the West Bank are corrupt and self-serving, and divert resources from the people who need it. I'm not denying that. But you can't blame a people for their leaders,
93% of Gazans voted for Hamas, because they were tired of being exploited by the PA. So yes, you CAN blame people for their leaders.
[quote]The Jews who lived there were not in conflict with the Muslims
No, but Muslims were very much in conflict with Jews (and Xtians). Death sentences for selling land to Jews, Arab massacres of Jews, that occurred not only in Palestine but also in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Tunisia, Morocco, Yemen, Algeria, Iran, Egypt, etc.
Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity because they aren't interested in "statehood" or "self-determination". Their sole purpose since "Palestinians" were created as a political entity in 1967 is to rid area of Jews (and Xtians).
Pretending otherwise is ludicrous.