Eva Gabor was bisexual . . .

I recemtly read this book. I'm not convinced Eva was bisexual. Just because she was friends with Marlene Dietrich and Tallulah Bankhead?

Suzanne Pleshette was Ava's best friend. I liked them both a lot, I hope they were girlfriends!

R1, Maybe you should read the book again. Zsa Zsa's daughter, Francesca, revealed to the author that Auntie Eva was a lesbian and it was well known within the family. Eva and Merv Griffin bearded for each other for years.

Did Eva know Lena Horne?

I have had a crush on Eva Gabor since I was 6 years old. I would love to think she loved women.

Poor sweet Eva. Dead 24 years and being outed if we are to believe what we read.

R6 Being a lesbian and/or bi is not something to be ashamed of.

And is not something to feel sorry for someone over discovering.

How come nobody ever talks about Magda? She was the oldest sister but you never hear anything about her. No wig business. No slapping policeman in the face. No multiple marriages. Was she the good one in the family?

The three sisters had an unbelievable twenty marriages between them. Mama Jolie was married three times.

Magda and Zsa Zsa were both married to George Sanders. ZZ first, divorcing him after a few years of a miserable marriage. Then Magda married him 16 years later only to have the marriage annulled after 32 days of marriage.

Surely "including Marlene Dietrich" is redundant, OP? If Eva was famous, of that era and taking female lovers, it's a cinch Marlene was one of them. That gal got around.

R8, Magda was married six times and married well. When her fourth husband, Tony Gallucci, died of cancer in 1967, she inherited a fortune from his contracting business, one of the oldest the US. However, a year prior, she suffered a major brain injury after a fall, which left her partially paralyzed and unable to speak clearly. You didn't hear too much about Magda because she was never a Hollywood actress. She did a few films in her native Hungary, and made a few TV appearances alongside her famous sisters, but she never landed a studio contract or significant role.

She looked too much like that actress - Carole Cook.

Then she should have been able to plow the fields and rebuild that broken down house on Green Acres.

Yes, but it is a Sam Staggs book, and he was "BFF" with poor, dear Frannie, so be sure to keep your margarita rim well salted.

If Eva was a carpet muncher, Scotty B would have told us.

I can tell you Eva WAS a labia licker, I know first hand.

WTF?!

Eva was considered the good Gabor.

Who is Scotty B?

Eva’s pool boy R20

Hey r6, go fuck yourself you self hating homo.

Being gay at any time period is a tough but if you were gay and in show business at least you could hide in plain sight and find others in your community.

Finally this thread is moving even if some of you are dickheads.

R20, Scotty Bowers, pimp to the stars.

Eva Gabor was totally straight, and I'm the dame that can prove it!

Franny stroked out in the bathroom of Norm's La Cienega.

Ha-HA dahlinks.

R27, While sitting on the toilet.

Eva replaced both Vivien Leigh and Colleen Dewhurst on Broadway.

When Judy Garland died, Liza call Eva to see if her hairdresser would come and fix Judy's hair. Eva REFUSED!

This footage of Eva's funeral is very moving.

[quote]Magda and Zsa Zsa were both married to George Sanders.

No wonder he killed himself.

I thought it was the makeup guy?

R30. I thought it was the makeup guy?

[quote][R30]. I thought it was the makeup guy?

He may have done both. I remember someone commenting that he was the one who helped Eva develop the wig that had the wires in it that pulled her face back.

R36. Ok. You are probably right.

Imagine dying at age seventy-six and being outlived by your mother!

That's poor Jolie aged ninety-eight in the wheelchair, looking sad, but not terrible for her age!

This explains so much.

What was superstar gay pianist Van Cliburn doing at Eva’s funeral?

[quote]What was superstar gay pianist Van Cliburn doing at Eva’s funeral?

Peron forced everyone in the country to go. What was he supposed to do?

[quote]What was superstar gay pianist Van Cliburn doing at Eva’s funeral?

Playing the theme to "Green Acres"?

R38, That was Eva's sister Magda in the wheelchair, not her mother Jolie. Magda was wheelchair bound after a stroke.

Jolie was so out of it by 98 in 1995 that she was never even informed that Eva had died.

Both Magda and Jolie died in 1997, months apart.

R38. According to the book that is Magda in the wheelchair not Jolie. By this time Jolie was bedridden and suffering from dementia. She was never told that Eva died.

Eva could not have been a lesbian. She never wore flannel shirts and she didn’t have one of those ridiculous butch hair cuts.

Trisexual, actually.

I would love it if Eva and Suzanne Pleshette were lovers.

I can just hear Emily Hartley’s throaty laugh after Lisa Douglas had done or said something adorably idiotic.

R43, Understandable. The Kennedy family never informed Rose that Jackie had died.

[quote]The Kennedy family never informed Rose that Jackie had died.

I had also heard someone say that they never told Joe, the father, that Bobby had been assassinated. Or maybe they had told him, but he never remembered and still thought Bobby was living when he died.

They never told Donald that Ivanka didn't actually fuck him.

horny slut

R42

Jolie's real name was Tittiman. That pretty much says it all.

Marlene & Eva

It makes Eva waaaaaay more interesting than we though she was.

"Suzanne Pleshette was Ava's best friend. I liked them both a lot, I hope they were girlfriends!"

Ava Gardner? I can see Ava and Suzanne going at it for hours ;)

R55. I totally agree. She was more interesting and complicated than she got credit for when she was living.

I always thought Eva was interesting.

I've been watching the interviews with Eva that are posted on YouTube and she seems like a total right wing conservative and devout Catholic. I can't see her being bisexual.

I always thought Eva was much prettier than Zsa Zsa, who looked kind of hard.

R59. I agree. Also Eva had a lovely laugh and Zsa Zsa cackled.

R58, Eva did not want you to see that she was bisexual.

R61. That's a great point. Maybe she was a better actress than she's given credit for.

Michfest is where I'd rather be I get allergic sucking peen I just adore a shaved crotch view Darling, I'll fuck you but give me some pussy, too.

Michfest is where I'd rather be

I get allergic sucking peen

I just adore a shaved crotch view

Darling, I'll fuck you but give me some pussy, too.

Eva discusses her love life on Lifetime's Attitudes, with the enthusiastic Linda Dano and Nancy Glass, before hawking her wigs, Mister Haney-style.

Linda and Nancy get wig makeovers at the 8 minute mark.

Eva rocked a lot of braless halter dresses. Rawrrr

Is this Eva's last husband, Frank Gard? They look good together.

I love this type of news so much! I wonder if everyone in the media at that time knew about her sexuality

That's why Eva married so few times

R69, ???

Spouse(s)

Eric Valdemar Drimmer (m. 1937; div. 1942)

Charles Isaacs (m. 1943; div. 1949)

John Elbert Williams (m. 1956; div. 1957)

Richard Brown (m. 1959; div. 1973)

Frank Gard Jameson, Sr. (m. 1973; div. 1983)

Dahling, I love zhee fur burger!

Rocking another braless hslter dress.

Are there pics of Zsa Zsa pre nosejob?

Yes r70 compared to ZsaX2 and Magda

Another braless halter. Is anyone getting sick of these?

[quote]Another braless halter. Is anyone getting sick of these?

Not really something I need to be looking at.

House where Merv and Eva lived and carried out their mutual bearding.

R77, They never lived together.

There be a bra, r75.....

R78. Oh please don't ruin my mental picture of sweet Eva's supple breasts caressed by that 1970s halter dress. I dont ask for much and it's all I've got.

Eva before nose job.

On Oct. 21, 1963, Eva Gabor replaced Vivien Leigh in the Broadway musical "Tovarich." The show closed two weeks later. Shortly after that, John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

Eva later did "Tovarich" in summer stock.

I wonder how Vivien felt about being replaced by a Gabor sister.

Similar as to how Bacall felt about being replaced by Raquel?

I think Vivien just wanted out of the show at that point and wouldn't have cared if she had been replaced by Buddy Hackett.

[quote]I wonder how Vivien felt about being replaced by a Gabor sister.

Eva was always considered more of a legitimate actress than Zsa Zsa. In 1958, Eva appeared in "Gigi," which went on to win the Oscar as best picture. Meanwhile, also in 1958, Zsa Zsa was appearing in "The Queen of Outer Space. It was Eva, not Zsa Zsa, who had a hit comedy series. Plus, Eva appeared on the legitimate stage.

Eva also replaced Colleen Dewhurst in "You Can't Take It With You" on Broadway in 1984. She voiced characters for the Disney animated features "The Aristocats," "The Rescuers" and "The Rescuers Down Under."

R85, True, but Zsa Zsa did make her film debut in John Huston's Moulin Rouge in 1952, which received multiple Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture.

Zsa Zsa also starred on Broadway in Forty Carats after Julie Harris left the show.

Eva may have had Marlene Dietrich, but it was Zsa Zsa who Greta Garbo was attracted to, resulting in a French kiss.

Duchess

Eva is so timelessly funny in "Green Acres" which remains a subversive pleasure 50 years later.

No way would Frank Cady or Eddie Albert work with a lesbian

I don't want to think of Lisa Douglas like that.

I wonder if Eva let Arnold slurp on her pussy in her Green Acres dressing room?

R77. I always thought Merv was gay. Then he was linked to Eva and I thought I musg br wrong. I thought it was a legit hetero relationship. That's the power of the press.

You can't blame the press for the fact that you're credulous.

I always got a lesbian vibe from Francesca Hilton. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

I've had a massive crush on Eva for 50 years. I can tell you there is no way in hell she was bisexual or a lesbian. Her finger nails are far too long. I wouldn't let her come near me with those talons.

Some lesbians lick.

R97. Now that I would let her do.

Eva very youmg.

Eva very youmg.

Sorry for the double post. I am new to this site.

Eva as the mystery guest on "What's My Line?" in 1954. Starts around 14:12.

And still lovely Eva with David Letterman in 1986.

R103. That's a strange interview. She shamelessly flirts with goofy ass looking Dave and seems to be very nervous about what he is going to say next. Did he know something?

She was probably on guard because of Dave's tendency toward snarky remarks. I'm not sure what he could have known about her. Most show business insiders must have known that Merv was really just her walker, but that wouldn't have been talk show fodder in 1986.

Eva Gabor returned to "What's My Line?" in 1966, this time with Eddie Albert. Starts at 21:11.

I am not convinced Eva Gabor was bisexual. People can write anything about you after you die and let's remember that Francesca Hilton is not the most reliable source.

R107, What would convince you, a sex tape?

With all those marriages, she certainly wasn't good at romatic relationships.

R107. If only...

R109. Zsa Zsa was married more than Eva and no one is questioning her sexuality.

Was Debbie Reynolds a lesbian?

Is there a way to turn on notifications of this thread? If so please share.

Click on the "eye" on the right, opposite the thread title. It should turn orange when you click on it.

R114. Thanks!

r113=Arnold Ziffel

I believe Eva was bisexual. I don't think she would have stayed single so long if she was straight or at least she would have been linked to a straight man if she didn't marry. *shrugs* I'm a fan either eay.

[quote]Zsa Zsa was married more than Eva and no one is questioning her sexuality.

Francesca made the lesbian claim about Auntie Eva, not mama Zsa Zsa. Eva was in a "relationship" with known homosexual Merv Griffin, not Zsa Zsa. Hence, people questioning Eva's sexuality, not Zsa Zsa's. Do you understand?

R118. Good points.

[Quote] Eva was in a "relationship" with known homosexual Merv Griffin, not Zsa Zsa. Hence, people questioning Eva's sexuality, not Zsa Zsa's.

Well...

R118, Relationship, my ass. I'll bet Merv and Eva never saw each other naked even once.

Perhaps that's why R118 put "relationship" in quotation marks, R121.

R120. LOL!

Eva would be very hard to be in a relationship with - be it gay, straight or bisexual. She was obsessed with artifice. She did an interview with CNNs Roger Ailes in 1995. She said her wig once fell off during sex. Call me a pervert but I enjoy stroking my lover's hair. I doubt Eva would allow it. I can't imagine she was well versed in intimacy. Sad.

Somehow this holds no interest for me.

Hungarian pussy is such a delicacy.

R125. Why is your ass here?

R126. Marlene said, "Women are better lovers but you can't live with them." How true.

I wonder how Sam Staggs missed Zsa Zsa's abortions. In the link below she claims to have had 2 abortions in Europe.

R7. Why does wanting privacy for yourself or for others translate to shame? I think you are igmorant.

r130

Privacy for dead people?

They didnt call her Eva Grabmor for nothin,!

I'm not surprised that Eva would turn to women later in life. I'm talking about vaginal dryness here folks. The struggle is real. Conventional hetero sex can be uncomfortable after menopause. Much easier to have sex with a woman.

Green Acres and Beverly Hillbillies shot on the same lot and Nancy Kulp was famous for waving her index finger at people and asking them, 'Want to smell Ava Gabor?'

[quote]I'll bet Merv and Eva never saw each other naked even once.

Deney Terrio said in his sexual harassment suit against Merv, that Merv used to wear nothing but a g-string and he'd dance and gyrate around Deney and Merv was so fat, his mounds of heaping flesh, would cascade down over the string and make him appear naked.

R126. Now that is some Hungarian goulash I'd like to munch on.

Thanks for that mental image, R135. Now I won't have to take my appetite depressant.

Suppressant.

Suppressant.

How many horny lesbians are on this thread?

Honestly Ava seemed too lazy to be a lesbian, seems like it would be too much work, I mean if she gets allergic smelling hay, how would she deal with a huge hairy bush in her face (because back in the day, the ladies didn't trim downtown) nor could I imagine her having enough energy to scissor for any length of time, what with having to keep one leg in the air the whole time and trying to make sure your suzie stays pressed against the other suzie...no way, can't see her wanting to put in that kind of effort.

Eva invented Lesbian Bed Death.

[quote]Honestly Ava seemed too lazy to be a lesbian,

Ava was no lesbian. Eva, on the other hand . . .

R143, Ava craved cock.

Ava craved cognac.

Ava was extremely popular with creators of the New York Times crossword puzzles.

DOWN 4. Actress Gardner.

R146, So is Actress MacGraw.

[Quote] Actress Gardner

Connor Jessup?

I've watched all of Eva's interviews on YouTube. When she is interviewed by men she flirts shamelessly and talks about how much loves men. When interviewed by women she complains about how men all cheated on her and calls them "a pain in the neck" . Bitch can't make up her mind. Maybe she would have had better luck if she took her wig off during sex.

She should have dated Jeff Chandler. Or Marvin Gaye.

[quote]She should have dated Jeff Chandler.

Eva was very fashion-conscious and wouldn't date any man who wore polka dots when he was clearly too big for them.

Hmm. I have a crush on Jeff Chandler and Ester Williams. What a coincidence.

Ava Gina

R141. Sam Staggs wrote in his book that Eva once said that marriage was too interesting an experiment to be tried only once. I feel the same way about lesbian sex and lesbian relationships.

Is this thread dead?

It seems that way, unless we hear from Tom Lester, the only surviving principal cast member of "Green Acres."

Was Eva just a 'pillow princess', who made Mary Grace Canfield do all the 'grunt work', as it were?

Mr Haney is still not living

Hey! I'm still here! Don't forget me!

Say -- who's that guy with the big knife coming my way?

R157. You might be on to something. I wonder about Eva's capacity for any kind of intimacy.

They are so adorable, and their chemistry is just magic, in R106's clip. I loved her so very much.

I've had a crush kn Eva for 50 years.

Eva seemed like a sweet, kind and lovely person. I hate to think of her suffering in any way.

Honestly I'd rather think of Eva licking pussy than sucking cock because that's just plain gross.

No way Ava was a lesbian or bi. She was too square.

R165, Times Square?

r165 Did Eddie even know Ava Gardner?

R167, Yep.

R167. I actually meant Eva not Ava.

Eva said on MatchGame that she did not like the word "suck". Ha ha

Eva was a lady. The same cannot be said of Ava.

Did Eva drive a Subaru?

Sad bride.

Face like a monkey.

I just finished the book and was surprised Staggs didn't mention Zsa-Zsa and Jackie Kennedy's transatlantic flight sometime in the 1950's. I read somewhere that Jackie spent the whole flight - and this was when they were propeller planes, not jets, so it was all day - admiring Zsa-Zsa's skin and her flawless complexion from her seat across the aisle.

R173. No! Eva was beautiful.

R174. Check out R121. He left a lot if things out of the book.

Has anybody told RALPH ?

Eva -Ava

Ava-Eva

Let's call the whole thing off.

I love Eva. I wish she had outlived Zsa Zsa.

I wish Sam Staggs had interviewed Eva's step kids from her marriage to Frank Jameison. I would love to know what they thought of her.

I'm a horny lesbian and I love Eva.

A few years ago I bought Eva’s birthday card on eBay. It was sent to her by Suzanne Pleshette and Tina Sinatra. Suzanne signed it “Your Real Sister” and Tina signed it “Your kid sister”. At the bottom of the card they invite Eva to lunch. I thought it was cute.

That doesn't speak well of Suzanne Pleshette. You don't shit talk your friend's family. You listen while they do it, but you don't engage in it yourself. Bad form.

R182 here. I was slightly wrong. Tina says “Your rotten kid” rather than “your kid sister”

Hopefully the link works.

R182, Who was selling it?

R182. That is cute. I'm glad she had such nice friends.

In a 1995 interview with Roger Ailles Eva said she had been to a psychiatrist on and off for 10 years. I wonder if she was struggling with her sexuality?

R183. I don't think SP showed bad form. She showed a sense of humor. Something you obviously lack.

Francesca Hilton was not a reputable source. Eva was straight. 100%

[quote] Eva was straight. 100%

We had that in common.

R189, Of course she was.

R191. Are you agreeing that Francesca was disreputable or are you agreeing that Eva was 100% straight?

I agree with whoever said she didn’t seem like a very sexual person. I also imagine her to be too conscious of her appearance and how she looked to let go and enjoy a good romp with anybody. So she never pinged to me as either a lesbian or a sensual, sexual straight woman.

I wonder if Eva ever had a fling with Holland Taylor. That would be hot!

Holland Taylor.

What's the best thing about oral sex with Zsa Zsa Gabor?

15 minutes of silence.

R194=Sarah Paulson, snapping her bean frantically

Straight, bi, whatever....my darlings, who cares?

I do love the house shown in R77's post....now that looks like the house where a star SHOULD live.

R193. I disagree. I think Eva comes across as a very warm and loving person. I see her as very sensual.

Eva was married five times yet had no kids. Hmmm . . .

R200. What does that have to do with being lesbian or bisexual?

This thread is as dead as Eva and Ava. 🙁

It's even as dead as I am.

So when Eva was interviewed by two women she said men "are a pain in the neck". When she was interviewed a man she said "I'm crazy about men". Which is it Eva?

I imagine that, for Eva, it was both.

I wish this thread was as active as Eva's sex life.