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Girl's remains found 35 years after her disappearance

Jonelle Matthews vanished from her home after performing at a Christmas concert on Dec. 20, 1984.

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by Anonymousreply 9310/17/2020

Amaturos

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by Anonymousreply 107/26/2019

Was she a great big fat person?

by Anonymousreply 207/26/2019

it's a well written article

by Anonymousreply 307/26/2019

Very poignant. Her skull still had braces on it's teeth and they found the tattered remnants of the clothing she was wearing in that Christmas video.

by Anonymousreply 407/26/2019

Her father was a suspect. Parents now live in Costa Rica.

by Anonymousreply 507/26/2019

That’s one of the best articles I’ve read about a breaking news story.

by Anonymousreply 607/26/2019

Her father had a rock solid alibi. He was a a basketball game with his other daughter when Jonelle disappeared.

by Anonymousreply 707/26/2019

[quote] Her father had a rock solid alibi. He was a a basketball game with his other daughter when Jonelle disappeared.

I don't think that was stated in the linked article (OP's post). I didn't mean to falsely accuse the father. How sad and tragic to have a child missing for decades. Understandable that the town would no longer feel the same and that they'd want to move to somewhere happier.

by Anonymousreply 807/27/2019

Glad they found her remains. Missing persons stories that never get any closure seem heart breaking to me.

by Anonymousreply 907/27/2019

Was someone waiting for her in the house when she came home from the concert? Had someone been stalking her and knew when to strike? Did Jonelle stumble into a robbery at her house?

Terrifying

by Anonymousreply 1007/27/2019

Possibly someone who was driving past when they saw the girl get dropped off at a dark house. Possibly an interrupted burglary. Her shoes and shawl were in the house so she'd taken them off when she came in, turned on the tv and .....someone was in a bedroom looking for cash or jewelry and couldn't get out without her seeing them. He or they decided to kill her and maybe assaulted her beforehand.

Do people steal tvs anymore? It used to be burglars stole tvs, stereo speakers, etc. In suburbs the main tv was a piece of furniture in the living room, but portable tvs in bedrooms were stealable and when wall units became popular people bought non-cabinet tvs. TVs are kind of huge to steal without being noticed nowadays..

by Anonymousreply 1107/27/2019

Remains found in an oil field in Colorado? Wonder where Chris Watts was that evening?

by Anonymousreply 1207/27/2019

It's great that she was found after so long! I hope she is doing ok and can move on from all this. 🙏🙏

by Anonymousreply 1307/27/2019

I wonder if they can get some DNA from the remains?

by Anonymousreply 1407/27/2019

Of the perpetrator, I mean.

by Anonymousreply 1507/27/2019

There were footprints in the snow circling the house. Creepy!

by Anonymousreply 1607/28/2019

Chris Watts was but a fetus. He wasn't even hot yet.

by Anonymousreply 1707/28/2019

If it wasn’t a transient, but someone from the town, my guess is the father of girl that dropped Joelle off that night.

He would have known he dropped her off at an empty house.

Where was her mother, by the way? At the game with her dad and oldest daughter?

No one was attending Joelle’s Christmas concert?

by Anonymousreply 1807/28/2019

The mother was out of town.

by Anonymousreply 1907/28/2019

[quote]No one was attending Joelle’s Christmas concert

Suicide to “show them?”

by Anonymousreply 2007/28/2019

The mother was on her way to the airport to take care of a sick relative in another state

by Anonymousreply 2107/28/2019

Of course he's a Republican.

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by Anonymousreply 2210/15/2020

What about the three missing women from Springfield, Missouri? I am German and this case has fascinated me ever since.

by Anonymousreply 2310/15/2020

And, never was, R17.

by Anonymousreply 2410/15/2020

Just watched Law & Order rerun in which a missing child's remains were found after 30 years. Always the family or the relative or the family's friend, isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 2510/15/2020

People are saying it’s a well written article, but the first thing that jumped out to me was the words “who retired” printed as “whore tired.”

by Anonymousreply 2610/15/2020

This is so incredibly sad. Can't imagine the horror this poor girl felt. And a MILLION children go missing every year in the US alone?! That's beyond horrifying. Why don't the "pro-life" warriors who always think of the children do something about that horror?

Oh right, they're probably the ones doing the abductions.

by Anonymousreply 2710/15/2020

I literally was just typing that r26! What happened to editors?

by Anonymousreply 2810/15/2020

What was his connection to Jonelle, besides living two miles from her house? I wonder how he came into contact with her in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 2910/15/2020

Incredible story. I hope her family gets justice.

by Anonymousreply 3010/15/2020

He probably just saw Jonelle and decided to rape and murder her. That's what BTK did, one of his victims was chosen when he saw her picking up her mail.

by Anonymousreply 3110/15/2020

Having a child go missing has to be the worst thing imaginable. When I first started ebay in 2000 there was a male seller who had an About me page. On it he said his 17 year old daughter went to the movies and they never saw her again. She was a straight A student, had never been in any kind of trouble, had a good relationship with her parents and siblings. Once a year on the anniversary of her disappearance he would update whether any info had been found. On the 5 year anniversary he posted that he and his wife had given up any hope of ever seeing her again and presumed she was dead. Reading his posts were heart wrenching. I lost track of him after that so don't know if they ever found her.

by Anonymousreply 3210/15/2020

[quote] And a MILLION children go missing every year in the US alone?!

Not accurate and it’s not millions. Of the thousands of kids that go missing each year, most are found alive within hours of the missing report. The report was either erroneous, the kid wasn’t actually missing, was a runaway, or it’s a custody issue. Only a handful are actual abductions and an even smaller number are stranger abductions.

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by Anonymousreply 3310/15/2020

Parents must have such guilt that other things were more important than attending their daughters Christmas play.

by Anonymousreply 3410/15/2020

What selection of Christmas songs were on her iPod?

by Anonymousreply 3510/15/2020

R35, it would have been a Walkman.

by Anonymousreply 3610/15/2020

What’s a Walkman?

by Anonymousreply 3710/15/2020

If only our Christmas had turned out so well.

by Anonymousreply 3810/15/2020

[quote]What about the three missing women from Springfield, Missouri? I am German and this case has fascinated me ever since.

That's the most baffling missing persons case I've ever heard of. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it will ever be solved.

by Anonymousreply 3910/15/2020

[quote]Matthews’ parents, Jim and Gloria, whore tired to Costa Rica

¡Ay, caramba!

by Anonymousreply 4010/15/2020

And it's even sadder to learn that she was an adopted daughter. Maybe she wandered off into the place she died.

by Anonymousreply 4110/15/2020

Clearly, the druggie brother was behind the Springfield Three.

by Anonymousreply 4210/15/2020

Suspect arrested...

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by Anonymousreply 4310/15/2020

R43, wow!!!! Some story! I never expected such a swift arrest. But it seems this guy wanted to be caught. He did so many things to point a finger at himself that he probably felt guilty. Hope he rots.

by Anonymousreply 4410/15/2020

My father-in-law was missing for 2 months before his body was found. Amongst the hardest things we’ve ever gone through. Infinite scenarios, false hopes, the sense that there’s more to be done, half assed conspiracy theories from mostly well intentioned people, constant dread, the blindsiding resolution, the delayed grief.

I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

by Anonymousreply 4510/15/2020

Finally, the closure for the family.

by Anonymousreply 4610/15/2020

No r42 it wasn't him.

by Anonymousreply 4710/15/2020

The dad was attending his real daughter's basketball game while the adopted one had to fend for herself.

by Anonymousreply 4810/15/2020

Sadly, Jonelle's biological mother tracked down the family only to find out her daughter had been missing for several years.

by Anonymousreply 4910/15/2020

[quote]R26 People are saying it’s a well written article, but the first thing that jumped out to me was the words “who retired” printed as “whore tired.”

But who amongst us has not been “whore tired” (or even hog tied) at some time?

by Anonymousreply 5010/16/2020

From r43 article:

[quote]In early 1985, Pankey began muttering “false prophet” during a church service when the minister announced Jonelle would be found safe and returned home, Hicks said. The indictment states he grew increasingly agitated and had to be removed by parishioners.

But he didn’t become a “person of interest “ to the police until 2019.

Huh.

by Anonymousreply 5110/16/2020

Many times the police have their suspicions, but they need evidence to make an arrest.

Now they can lay her to rest. Poor kid.

by Anonymousreply 5210/16/2020

Pankey was a Patreon supporter of a podcast that covered Jonelle's case. He must have been obsessed with reliving the crime.

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by Anonymousreply 5310/16/2020

[quote]whore tired

God dammit, I’m exhausted!

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by Anonymousreply 5410/16/2020

Yes according to wiki the suspect arrested was a youth pastor at the church Jonelle’s family attended.

by Anonymousreply 5510/16/2020

No whore worth their salt hasn’t been whore tired.

by Anonymousreply 5610/16/2020

Steven Pankey, 69, arrested & charged w/1st degree murder.

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[quote] STEVE IS A CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE AND ARDENT DEFENDER OF THE CONSTITUTION.

Don’t vote for Steve.

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by Anonymousreply 5810/16/2020

There’s no tired like Whore Tired.

by Anonymousreply 5910/16/2020

This doesn’t preclude the father. He could have been an accomplice for all we know.

by Anonymousreply 6010/16/2020

"Matthews’ parents, Jim and Gloria, whore tired to Costa Rica"

%me2

by Anonymousreply 6110/16/2020

I read about this story in People magazine years ago. I'm glad there is an end to this story. Poor girl.

by Anonymousreply 6210/16/2020

Always the “youth pastors” ...

by Anonymousreply 6310/17/2020

Why did Pankey get rid of his dogs?

by Anonymousreply 6410/17/2020

[quote]I hope she is doing ok and can move on from all this.

Uh, she dayd.

by Anonymousreply 6510/17/2020

People can’t steal smart TVs. The TV is like a computer and police would be able to pull up registration info and location.

by Anonymousreply 6610/17/2020

Say what?

TVs don’t have GPS.

by Anonymousreply 6710/17/2020

Hanky Pankey!

by Anonymousreply 6810/17/2020

[quote] Steve's criminal justice studies included the study of people who acted without a conscience. Could the news media be a study in people who act without a conscience? ​ He's a Republican globalist conspiracy nut with a degree in criminology. Like a lot of Republicans, his accusations against the news media et al sound like projection.

by Anonymousreply 6910/17/2020

I grew up in Wyoming, about 90 minutes from Greeley, and I remember this case well. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 7010/17/2020

[quote] Just watched Law & Order rerun in which a missing child's remains were found after 30 years. Always the family or the relative or the family's friend, isn't it?

Or a small foreign faction.

by Anonymousreply 7110/17/2020

My late mom was a physician who worked in the juvenile courts. She told me it is somewhat common for adoptive parents to adopt for the wrong reasons....one I recall was essentially keeping up with the joneses. I won’t burden you all with some of the horrors she shared.

by Anonymousreply 7210/17/2020

The wiki said the arrested suspect shared info about a rake having been used to cover snow footprints that wasn’t made public...good policing here that got 5heir guy albeit decades later.

by Anonymousreply 7310/17/2020

Their suspect also may have known that the mom was out of town and dad at other kids basketball game too since they went to that church where he “pastored.”

by Anonymousreply 7410/17/2020

"She told me it is somewhat common for adoptive parents to adopt for the wrong reasons..."

What about political ambitions?

by Anonymousreply 7510/17/2020

Was this case featured on Unsolved Mysteries or some similar show? I remember it vaguely.

by Anonymousreply 7610/17/2020

I'm fascinated with missing people's cases. Some of them are creepy and mind boggling. It's especially interesting now in October as Halloween is only a couple of weeks away.

by Anonymousreply 7710/17/2020

[quote]She told me it is somewhat common for adoptive parents to adopt for the wrong reasons...

What about political ambitions?

by Anonymousreply 7810/17/2020

The murdered girl was adopted by both parents? (I.e., not a product of the mom's or dad's previous relationships.) Why couldn't one parent attend her Christmas concert and the other parent attend the other daughter's sports event? Seems very sad.

I hate to just judge on looks alone, but Steven Pankey looks like a POS. Yes, he's 69, but his face is *deeply* etched and furrowed. I hope he was haunted every single day of his life, knowing he murdered this young girl.

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by Anonymousreply 7910/17/2020

I can remember as a kid when this case happened, and I grew up in Chicago. It had a TON of press. It’s terrible.

by Anonymousreply 8010/17/2020

At one point he was negotiating with police when he just claimed to have info about someone else who did it and wanted immunity

by Anonymousreply 8110/17/2020

Why the fuck did it take so long to arrest him?

by Anonymousreply 8210/17/2020

R72, could you please give some examples of wrong reasons ro adopt? Excluding the obvious sexual abuse motivation, what else could there be? Genuinely curious.

by Anonymousreply 8310/17/2020

^i recall my doc mom saying sometimes pressure from family to have kids or even wanting to have kids cuz other family members did...how bout those twos women who annihilated the whole fam with 5 adopted kids recently

by Anonymousreply 8410/17/2020

It’s a setup! Pankey is a celibate homosexual and claims he’s being framed because of his sexuality 😂😂😂😂😂

Death penalty please.

by Anonymousreply 8510/17/2020

R67 they have mac addresses.

by Anonymousreply 8610/17/2020

[quote] [R72], could you please give some examples of wrong reasons ro adopt? Excluding the obvious sexual abuse motivation, what else could there be? Genuinely curious.

YouTuber Myka Stauffer would be an example. She and her husband had several bio children but also adopted a child (boy) from China who is autistic (Stauffer knew about the disability and was apparently seeking out a child who had a disability). Stauffer featured the boy in multiple YouTube videos and her channel, apparently, blew up with "subscribers." Anyway, earlier this year, she and husband "re-homed" the boy. The criticism was that she used the boy for YouTube popularity, then kicked him to the curb when his known disability became a problem for her and her husband.

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by Anonymousreply 8710/17/2020

Oh god, that was horrible, R87. Hope the child is doing okay away from that psycho couple.

by Anonymousreply 8810/17/2020

R83

Another wrong reason to adopt is to save children for Jesus. There was good indication that Hana Williams and her adopted brother were adopted for that reason.

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by Anonymousreply 8910/17/2020

Sadists hiding behind Christianity, R89!

by Anonymousreply 9010/17/2020

Everyone is an asshole

by Anonymousreply 9110/17/2020

[quote] R67 they have mac addresses.

Fancy.

Mine only has mac and cheese.

by Anonymousreply 9210/17/2020

TV listings for Dec. 20,1984. Jonelle would have been watching The Cosby Show.

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