"1984" by George Orwell

This week, Trump stood on both sides of the issue, that he was both for and against the statement that those 4 congresswomen should go back where they’re from. That being an American means not disagreeing with him.

I hate Trump even more because my idiot sister’s family thinks Trump is the second coming. But her husband falls for every con man on the block, and has for decades, it’s just amazing how consistent he is in trusting all the wrong people.

[quote] with all the lies

Lying is actually usually not part of 'Doublethink' - that would be hypocrisy or manipulation, perhaps. It's actually not an easy term to pin down and is often misapplied. I find this nuanced distinction helpful:

[quote] 'Doublethink' = "the acceptance of contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination."

[quote] Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance - thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.

A modern example of Doublethink might be believing that a military-target country needs to be bombed into submission / obedience / compliance, but simultaneous genuinely believing that it it will thereby be "liberated". Some people in the military have cognitive dissonance about this - but many are so brainwashed by over-simplistic military ideology that they genuinely don't even see a contradiction in this.

*simultaneously

Screens that watch and listen and the criminalization of language/pronouns are more examples of the book coming to life.

Yes, of course OP. Bothsides. 🙄

R5, his name is Cupcake.

[quote] I'm glad to be old; I don't recognize much of the world I met as a child, and it's scary and sad.

Hold me, David. I'm scared.

As cliche as it sounds, reading 1984 and Brave New World back to back provides a very interesting take on information and how governments control people.

One censors and burns books while the other uses information overload. One oppresses with force while the other oppresses with pleasure.

Most people are afraid of 1984, but don't realize that Brave New World is the much bigger threat - especially today.

Aldous Huxley and Orwell were both massively intelligent men who could read the trends of their day.

Orwell was rumored to be MI6, no?

Spotify used to have audios of both books for those that prefer to listen.

I would also recommend Animal Farm to round out the themes, we may today see how everyone is equal but some are more so...What is that saying, you will know who rules over you when you know who you cannot criticize? Something like that.

Can anyone recommend other books in the vein of "Brave New World" and "1984"? Thanks.

Because never having to humor a tranny you’re never going to meet is as atrocious as Orwellian dystopia, fascism, murder and torture.

RIGHT-WING TRANNY STALKER FAIL.

Shaving a pedo's sac is not, as you so elegantly put it, "humoring a tranny."

And you are the stalker, not I.

OP is a "Both Sides" divisive TROLL.

Try "This Perfect Day" by Ira Levin, IMHO one of the most underrated dystopian novels ever written. In 1970, it predicted the ubiquity of medications that keep people happy and controlled.

Yes R14, because recognizing totalitarian tendencies in both parties is so divisive, it must be trolling.

Thanks, R 15. I will look at that one.

[QUOTE] Orwell was rumored to be MI6, no?

Even on this thread, the fucking Welp Troll joins in with insane conspiracy theories!

No, he was NOT 'rumored to be M16', you lardtard.

R11, try The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Bleak, post apocalyptic novel with cannibals.

The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood is another classic as is He, She and It by Marge Piercy.

Neuromancer - Gibson

Infomacracy - Malka Older

We - Yevgeny Zamyatin

Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury

Animal Farm - Orwell

Handmaid's Tale - Atwood

^^ I forgot one

It Can't Happen Here - Sinclair Lewis

Orwell was a snitching rat and a homophobic shitbag. Why should I care for anything he's written?

1984 shook up my little world when I read it first about ten years ago. Another Orwell that I love is Coming Up for Air, and well worth a read. If you like 1984 inspired art and music, The Resistance by Muse is an interesting album.

A world that must be eternally in conflict to remain stable... food for thought!

Who did Orwell snitch on, r21?

Thanks, r22. Food for thought, indeed.

What about Shangri-La? Did that have a political message?

Animal Farm is about the Soviet Union and Communism.

1984 was about Fascism.

A Modest Proposal was about the British Empire and Ireland.

Am I right about this?

[quote]Am I right about this?

Yes and no. It would be reductive to view the literary themes in such narrow terms.

Take 1984. It is more broadly about the totalitarian state and the dangers of not knowing who's actually running the it. It looks at how the government maintains power and control:

* The relationships between power, control, information, censorship, and propaganda.

* How control of language is control of thoughts and ideas (Newspeak is the mandated language).

* How rewriting history legitimizes a host of sins: “the past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.”

* How the use of technology and elimination of privacy further solidifies government authority.

However, the books covers a lot of other themes with regard to the relationship of the individual and society and liberty, individual freedom, and what how willing people are to trade them.

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That list includes that 'red-hot-Socialist' Michel Redgrave and the unstable Orson Welles.