Straight Men Recall the First Time They Were Attracted to a Trans Woman

Heterosexuality is weird tbh. I think all straight men are secretly a little gay but will try their hardest to deny it.

If your lady has a dick, you’re fucking a man, no matter what that dress and ratty old wig say.

When ze shrilly correctly my pronoun usage, I knew ze was for me!

This is bullshit. Straight men and gay men aren't sexual with trans people. Bisexual and pansexual men are sexual with trans people.

[quote]Straight Men Recall the First Time They Were Attracted to a Trans Woman

[quote]Tons of men are into trans girls, they just don't admit it.

Still tedious. Still ridiculous. Still has nothing to do with gay people, as we are neither straight men nor trans women.

Sexual orientation and gender identity are not the same. Why should we care to whom straight men are attracted unless it's to other men?

R5: Because I'm convinced that gay men aren't posting this shit. It's either a woman, a bisexual/pansexual man, or an actual tranny. They post it to piss us off because they know that us gay men don't give a flying fuck about this bullshit.

The author of this article, interviews the Dragon Lady, who first transitioned into a woman, and thence, into a reptile.

Oh Diana...your deep voice immediately clocks you as having a tiny dripping cock. And your square jawed face.

What a revelation, straight men can be bottoms too.

R5, your intuition is wrong, because I am very much a gay man.

Not with transwomen though R8.

It's not that many hetero men are into transwomen. I find that statement a little fallacious and ideologically loaded. The reality here is that it depends on how much they can pass as real women and deceive the senses of hetero men and, given that most transwomen overdo femininity they eventually become a fantasy of femaleness.

[quote] Why should we care to whom straight men are attracted unless it's to other men?

[quote][R5], your intuition is wrong, because I am very much a gay man.

No OP, your reasoning is wrong. The question was not whether any gay man might care. The question was WHY should we care to whom straight men are attracted unless it's to other men.

WHY should it matter to me one way or another to whom self-identified "straight" men are attracted. And let's not play silly semantics games about "straight" men can have sex with men and still be straight. When something can be anything, it's actually nothing. A word that doesn't mean anything has no linguistic value.

R12 Silly....it’s because “straight” men who fuck men who are wear dresses, are, in fact, gay.

A wig and eye shadow on a body with a cock and a set of huge pendulous balls, is still a man.

Yes, a “chick with a dick” is in actuality a dude with boobs.

3 of the men were black...cultural thing?

Yes, it's cultural thing r15

Google "downlow"

These men are a mess.

“I prefer pre-op and non-op trans women.”

With small tits and short hair?

Why go to all the trouble of interviewing these guys if you’re not going to ask the question everyone wants answered?

Heterosexual men fuck dolls that look like women. They are not attracted to transwomen as if they were a legitimate category themselves; they are attracted to how well transwomen can look like real women.

3 of 4 are black, the white guy is a 57 year-old "businessman and escort"

So I'm guessing "business" isn't going all that well, lol

R18 that's "chicks with dicks" in the vernacular

[quote]Tons of men are into trans girls, they just don't admit it

The entire movement is built on anecdotal evidence and junk science.

R23 pun intended "junk science"?

These men are not straight...they’re homophobic homos

“Transwomen” is a misnomer. R14 is exactly right — they are men with bolted on boobs.

Lol 24

More proof trans are gays who think acting like women will get them all the straight dick they want. Practically everyone one of them think that transitioning will get them endless Sex with “real” men. If they stayed gay, they’d just be incels for the rest of their lives.

It is strange. But if it makes them feel they aren't gay or bi, whatever. I have fucked a trans man once(FTM). He was cute af and I wanted to try pussy. Of course it felt amazing (just as an ass feels amazing).

I met a super hot transguy once, wouldn't have known if he hadn't told me. It was a little disorienting.

This is another great stinking heap of trans-oriented wishful thinking. Vice is such a toxic piece of shit publication, I swear they must be secretly funded by right wing assholes like the Koch bros.

[quote] These men are not straight...they’re homophobic homos

[bold]No idiot![/bold] Homosexual men would not be attracted to pretend or real females. You must be a Frau that is triggered that her straight man could be attracted to some pig with lipstick.

What do they do with the dicks?

Not a recent phenominon. Nearly every human civilization we know of had gender queer people, and they always slept with men. Never women

R30, you’re the idiot if you think men are women

[quote]gender queer people

Aka as “homosexuals.” Quit erasing us.

R30, these are self-loathing HOMOPHOBIC gay men. Meaning, they don’t WANT to be gay but they are.

Block R27 and R28, THEY ARE NOT GAY. They are bisexual/pansexual tranny fuckers. Get off our gay website scum!

Bisexual people are into people of both sexes, they're not into people who've mutilated their bodies.

Hilarious Vice, they do always push this stupid shit endlessly

This article is written by a trans woman fantasist and the type of "attraction" he's talking about is to porn and hookers and trans "women" who still have penises.

"I prefer pre-op and non-op trans women." You prefer men in other words but are unable to admit to yourself that you are sexually attracted to your own sex and may be gay/bi.

The funny thing is that the four men interviewed see themselves as either straight or "labels don't matter to me" or "sexuality is fluid". None of them is able to say "I am probably gay/bi".

R20 ftw

This reminds me of something I read sometime ago. A woman expressing how different women and transwomen are. While most women feel uncomfortable and unsafe around men hitting on them transwomen, on the other hand, love and crave being hit on by a group of men. It was an article disagreeing with transwomen claiming to be the same as biological women.

R40 Reminds me of the saying men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them

I love Alf Stewart, the fucking old poof

Straight guys aren't straight if they are fucking someone with a dick. This article is just a tranny fantasy - maybe if you tell yourself often enough that someone "straight" wants to fuck it, maybe it will happen.

It Gets Better from Trannys

Straight men? 😂

R41 If men were so dangerous, then more women would learn how to fight and protect themselves. Women walk around major cities completely defenseless.

R46 Please never breed

Almost all transwomen exclusively seek "straight" guys to fuck. Fucking a guy of a different orientation makes them feel as if they're not real women which...NEWSFLASH... they aren't. Since their whole identity is built on fantasy, they're willing to go the extra mile to convince themselves that the guys they're fucking are truly straight while...NEWSFLASH... they aren't. With that being said, I have nothing against them. If that's how they want to live then so be it but to claim that straight men are into them is the epitome of delusion.

I had a friend back in the 80s who I sincerely believe was gender dysmorphic and who became a beautiful but still unhappy woman. Back then the surgery wasn’t what it is today and she could never have a full sex life. She became a successful model, many men fell for her but few stuck around because of that.

I had another friend who moved from hyper masculinity as a member of a motorcycle club to believing he should transition. This struck me as something different. There was a need to find a real self but it was clear transitioning was not the answer. Sadly, an overdose ended it all anyway. Accidental, but given drug consumption and lifestyle not unexpected.

I would wish for anyone to be comfortable within themselves but I am fed up when it does clearly necessitate the erasure of others identities as validation of their idea of self. The person upthread is right. Sexual identity and gender identity are totally different and should be acknowledged as such. The whole ‘queer’ identity bullshit just muddies the water.

What is sexual identity?

By the way, I don't have a gender identity. Feelings of gender are only stated by dysphoric people. I simply acknowledge my biological reality. I have never felt feelings of gender.

I'm 28 and when out drinking the other month one of my old school friends who I thought was straight came out as "bisexual". Except exclusively for chicks with dicks. I pointed out that not so much bi as it is some sort of weird Japanese fetish which he REALLY didn't need to tell us all he was into. But he was pretty adamant on what he was.

R46, if men weren’t so dangerous nobody would need guns, security systems & gated communities.

We wouldn’t need an armed forces. Or nuclear weapons.

Don’t kid yourself....Women are just as evil as men r52

Look at the statistics R53.

R46 is an idiot.

R53: evil & dangerous are not synonymous.

But only 8 out of a hundred pedos are female. And the entire world is fucked up...and which sex has more power & authority?

Look no further than the current American President for proof. Just for starters, he’s been accused of RAPING a 13 yo girl.

All people are evil and deserve to die r56

R51, actually, that is EXACTLY bisexuality. Your friend was honest and more than most.

R57, all people have the capacity to be evil. It’s our choice.

And, yes, everybody will eventually die. But it’s obviously not the end of the world.

Keep in mind that whatever you focus on expands. It’s a law of physics. Perhaps you ought not focus so much on evil? And instead focus on your own contribution to the world & humanity...?

Just a thought. Again, it’s your choice.

r48 You are behind in your understanding of the gender wars. Times have changed. The sizable majority of trans women are now "lesbians" or "transbians" which is to say straight males with a 'gender identity' of woman. The gay male "trans women" have been quickly crowed out by the new model, something you're increasingly hearing them bitch about (but of course they are instantly labeled as transphobic, as is standard nowadays).

Back on topic, I'm not sure whether we should call a "straight" man attracted to a post-op and 'well-passing' trans women a bisexual or not, that's a tough one. Strictly speaking, he is attracted to a male body, but it's a body that has been transfigured to [italic]appear[/italic] female. I know that if I found out a man I was attracted to was a trans man, all attraction would immediately dissipate, because I have ZERO interest in interacting sexually with a female regardless of his or her appearance. Also, dick, obviously.

Men attracted to trannies want to get pegged. And not by a woman with a dildo.

They’re ashamed to admit that not only are they homo, but they’re also bottoms.

I'm sure VICE hired the world's leading scienticians to conduct this important research.

It may be a tranny fantasy r43. but how many 100% straight guys do you imagine are wandering around out there? I bet it's not more than 10%.

Reminds me of Blaire White, some video he did ages ago with his boyfriend, neither of them wanted to admit that they are just gay (or bi) men with a fetish for femininity instead they danced around terminology anything to avoid calling themselves homosexual.

R30 That's a crock of shit. Have you never met drag queens before? They always brag about Kai Kai with eachother.

R64, R65: Are both of you gay men?? Because if you aren't, let me explain this clearly. The WHOLE point of being a homosexual man, is because us gay men are attracted to men and masculinity. Sexually and romantically. Period. That's it. We DON'T want a transwoman because they look like women. And we sure as hell DON'T want a transman, because transmen are actual women PRETENDING to be a man. Conversation over! Stop confusing everything and lying about everything, and making things complicated, when they never were!

I recalled all those videos on YT by transgender women (flat-out homosexual transgenders) named "he didn't know I was transgender". They reek of fetishism with heterosexual men and the need for validation of the new identity.

R66 So we're going to pretend drag queens aka gay men aren't going at it with each other in drag? Or that it's not a fetish? Or the ones who claim they're straight women because they had some surgery and hormones? Sorry but seems like you don't want to acknowledge the truth. There's clearly a category of gay men who fetishize femininity and get off on the idea of themselves as pretend women, and even go as far as tricking straight men into bed with them. Your ignorance and denialism of this isn't going to make it go away.

R68 Have you met any actual drag queens? No, so fuck off

R66 How are you speaking for all gay men? So effeminate gay men don't exist in your world? Lol Are you even gay or just a dumb frau?

R68, wut? This thread is not about drag queens

Sorry 71 is for r69...drag queens are not trannies

R69 Yes, cumdrop, I have. What do you think the whole Kai Kai business is then?

R72 A lot of trannies are saying they are drag queens as well and vice versa. See Rupauls Drag Race.

R73 Drag queens are not trannys

R74 3 have been trannys

R75 Your second statement is contradictory to your first.

And not just on the show, you can go to any club with a drag act and you'll see at least three or four of them are transgender. Its narcissism overload, they want to be women, men, transgender, drag queens, straight and gay all at the same time.

Whatever r77

It’s still a man in a dress, and hence, unfuckable.

R68, R70: You are fucking stupid. Effeminate gay men still want other men. The one's who don't, usually have hormonal imbalance, have other identity disturbances, or are NOT GAY. They usually end up transitioning, because exactly, they have a fetish disorder that developed into an identity. You are deliberately lying you disingenuous trash. I can speak for all gay men, because homosexuality is a sexual orientation you stupid, stupid moron! Therefore, every gay man is attracted to men and masculinity just like I described. If anyone isn't gay it's you! I'm an authentic gold star gay man who's been out since I was 17. The types you described who fetishise femininity have other issues that are NOT linked to homosexuality. Homosexual orientation is not a fetish for femininity you homophobic bastard, nor do us gay men desire to be women. If we did, we WOULDN'T BE HOMOSEXUAL MEN. Now fuck off this gay website, because you are most likely homophobic straight men or homophobic straight women. BLOCKED.

I do believe some effeminate gay men fetishise femininity, especially those who overdo womanly behaviour, but I don't think they get off to it. What makes it thrilling to them is the assumed/expected potential to have access to heterosexual men. In a way they fetishise the female role in sex and heterosexual men can fulfill that ideal.

R80, I'm sure you have some rationale for your statements, but none of them have anything to do with reality.

How can, whatever your idea of effeminate gay men means, 'fetishise' feminity, and want an, ostensibly heterosexual man?

"What makes it thrilling to them is the assumed/expected potential to have access to heterosexual men" - this is a homophobic stereotype that portrays gay men as sexual predators.

R80, you're the kind of person, doing am impression of what you think a smart person sounds like. You don't appear to understand the words or concepts you're type, no better than a talking animal. But more dangerous because you can vote.

R79 You're such a dumb cow lol. And try reading comprehension. I didn't say all gay men, I specifically said a CATEGORY of gay men and I didn't say their fetish for femininity had anything to do with being homosexual or homosexuality. If you could get your head out of your ass you'd realise your statement is in agreement with mine.

R80 It's not always heterosexual men they are after, some effeminate gay men who do drag will seek sex with other effeminate gay men in drag, the heterosexual man is out of the equation. What would the desire behind this be?

An article with straight men recounting the trannies who have turned them on sounds like erotic fiction penned by Jacob Tobia.

R83, let's stop this specious categorisation of some gay men as effeminate gay men. That is as a result of the victimization and historical marginalization of gay men and women.

And this absurd notion that sleeping with a 'masc' guy makes one more masculine; the masculinity of straight men is not diminished by sleeping with women.

What kind of unresolved psychological trauma would lead some gay men to believe such tripe?

Well, things certainly are more complicated, eh Pookie? So, if a "straight" man is attracted to a transwoman, with or without a penis, knowing she is Trans, he is in reality a gay man, or so the consensus on this thread seems to agree on. So, a man who is attracted to an FTM, knowing there is a vagina down there, is actually a straight man then, right? Similar logic.

So younger FTM, "baseball jocks", are really hot.

No person with a pussy is "really hot"to an actual gay man R86

Pussies, and those people that are attached to them, are repellent in sexual situations, no matter how the pussy bearers are dressed.

Only bisexual men are interested in males that identify as transwomen

What a tired attempt to sound smart... You aren't R81

R87 So no one here would like this "guy" to give you a blow job?

R85 What kind of homophobic shit are you spouting?? Effeminate gay men are not effeminate because they were victimised or marginalised. That's right up there with gays are gay because they were molested BS.

R90, she’s more butch than Bieber.

[quote]no one here would like this "guy" to give you a blow job?

No, R90. But I would gladly cum in her pussy.

R90 That's a masculinised lesbian youtuber Aydian Dowling, she's NOT convincing at all when you hear her talk and see the rest of her figure. Only in still photos are they ever "passable" and even then you can still tell there is something off about them, the noticeable scars and disproportionate body ratio is obvious.

I feel bad, because I try to understand but really I don't. My (long ago) ex was bisexual. He has eight children. Now he is she and a lesbian. I try my best and I don't misgender,but I never will get it. I always thought people like Lauren Harries were pushed into it because of homophobia.

Kendra Wilkinson's marriage busted up over her husband's affair with a trans woman.

For all intents and purposes, they're practically women save for the dna thing. Easy to see why straight men would go for them, especially the prettiest ones.

"Homosexuality is weird tbh. I think all gay men are secretly a little straight but will try their hardest to deny it."

Do you see how stupid you sound?

Transwomen are willing to be the ideal fantasy for heterosexual men because they crave that feeling of being with a hetero man. Overly feminine, very submissive, etc. Real women don't necessarily aspire to such dynamics.

R96 Her husband pings

[quote]they're practically women save for the dna thing.

Such bullshit.

They have dicks. They produce sperm. They’re men.

Sex is binary.

Pretty much every single drag queen/tranny I ever knew made their real living as sex workers. So I have to assume theres always been men who like chicks with dicks.I dont know why so many of you are so invested in labeling sexuality . Let people be what they want to be,and fuck who they want to fuck. All of you shrieking "If they have a dick then the guy fucking them is GAY" sound kinda like loons yourselves. Mind your own business and let people live their lives.

I think drag is at the bottom of transvestic fetishism. I have heard some drag queens talk about their first experience wearing women's clothes and the thrill they got from it.

[quote]For all intents and purposes, they're practically women save for the dna thing. Easy to see why straight men would go for them, especially the prettiest ones.

😂

Block R101 for being a stupid "no labels", anything goes dumb fuck, and narcissist. Get the fuck off this gay website where being gay is important!

They look like women! It doesn't matter either way. Straight men are attracted to women and men who looks like women, and feminine looking people who jizz out sperm and balls - doesn't matter if they are sexy.

No, Fuck You R104 ! Im an old flaming queen who went through hell for being gay and visible in the 70s south when most of you punk bitches still had mommy wiping your ass. Damn right I dont believe in labels because Ive been on this planet long enough to realize that people who want to put everyone in a neat little box have issues of their own. When your stupid ass gets beat up by a cop and drug bleeding through a Greyhound bus station for no reason other than your wearing a "gay" outfit then you get back to me . When your father throws you out at 15 because your too gay and you end up in prison because you did what it took to survive,then you get back to me. When your friends are dropping like flies and no one knows why they are sick,you get back to me. You dont KNOW what being gay is about,you Cunt! Block away.