Can any one tell me why Kamala Harris is running for office and what her message is ?

I posed this same question on Facebook and got zero responses.

I like Kamala a lot and when i was with a group of friends , someone who is a big Warren fan asked me what does Kamala have that other top candidates don't ?

I seriously couldnt come up with a rational and logical answer.

She is good at throwing zingers, tough as nails while prosecuting but what makes her unique ?

Obvious troll is obvious.

She black

I'd like to know what she's about besides being a black woman, R3. So far, she seems to have based her whole candidacy on that.

Her campaign strategy is based on not having a clear political message. It's intentional.

Since Trump's whole campaign is being the white guy, maybe the best antidote is someone whose campaign is not being the white guy. Works for me.

She's the most qualified candidate to repeatedly kick Trump in the nuts.

There. Now you've got an answer.

She's running on the SJW platform.

If you're not with us, then you are AGAINST us. And you WILL pay dearly!

[quote]She's the most qualified candidate to repeatedly kick Trump in the nuts.

Basically that's her selling point. It's two fold

1) As an experienced prosecutor she is the best person to go against Trump

2) She represents a unifying figure for the Democratic party. Not as liberal as Bernie/Warren, not as moderate as Biden.

That's her elevator pitch for the Presidency.

[quote]She's running on the SJW platform.

Uh-huh. Go talk to a real black person and see what they think about her.

Fucking idiot.

Trump actually campaigned on a solid political agenda and he has many proposals that are easy to recall and identify with his brand. The wall thing, for example. I'm not saying that his ideas are good or feasible, by the way, only that it's untrue that his whole thing is just being the white male.

Anyway, "not being the white man" might work with some here, but the American electorate is far more right-wing than DL. We need to have that in mind if we want to win.

Black people HATE Kamala. She's married to a White Jew. And she's not from the "hood".

That bitch ain’t getting anywhere near the finals

[quote]Black people HATE Kamala.

Kamala is doing pretty well with black voters. Booker not so much. Of course Booker isn't doing so well with any voters. It terms of specifically under performing with black voters relative to their general popularity it is Mayor Pete.

Kamala is too aggressive. I don't like her style at all.

Obama was extremely likable, down-to-earth, kind, and smart.

Kamala comes across as mean, confrontational, egotistical and rough. These are almost the same negatives that people associated with Hillary.

I don't know why female candidates think that they have to be so aggressive, for men to take them seriously.

Elizabeth Warren is EVERYTHING that Barack Obama was. She is intelligent, kind, fair, and completely relateable. And she does it all, without having to act like a complete beast.

I'm sorry, but Harris will never get my vote. I'm going with Elizabeth Warren as my first choice, and Mayor Pete as my second. If I had my way, they would be the Democratic Presidential ticket for 2020.

That's the point of a primary r16, we all get to vote for whoever we want. You have about a million choices.

Just remember once the primary is over and we have a winner, the real enemy, the only enemy, is Trump.

That's the point of a primary r16, we all get to vote for whoever we want. You have about a million choices.

Just remember once the primary is over and we have a winner, the real enemy, the only enemy, is Trump.

She knows "woke" culture means she doesn't have to answer that or any other question. Being intersectional is an end in itself.

People who use "woke" and "SJW" to describe any politician to the left of Twitler need to be slapped viciously and repeatedly.

It's her turn.

[quote]Can any one tell me why Kamala Harris is running for office?

To spite an obese, odious, old Trumptard like OP. With a hideous swamp creature in the White House, I believe anyone is qualified to run for the office of the POTUS these days.

OP, your political analysis is absolute garbage.

She was on The View today, shaky and halting and trembly as usual- like a substitute middle school teacher who's getting a divorce. The Ladies had to prod her to sound like a candidate with a mission.

So she's shaky and uncertain and she's an overly aggressive bitch?

What you're actually saying is that Americans are unable to accept the idea of a female president.

Someone needs to step up their game and fast. Biden is feeble.

You do realize that she's Obama' pet project ?

No one is paying attention but Kamala's slow climb is just putting her in the three to four way race for second spot. I don't know if Biden carries the day or not but I am sure of two things: 1) Kamala is going to peak too soon 2) Liz Warren is quietly biding time in the second spot contest, doing what she does, maintaining a solid, unwavering base and is probably well positioned to survive the battle for second spot. Warren will survive when Bernie and Harris falter. Bernie can't seem to recapture the magic. Harris is rapidly becoming known for the mystery of what she stands for, other than anger and snark.

The nomination comes down to Biden or Warren. Maybe the ticket is Biden Warren. It might be a really good ticket.

Systemic reforms of the criminal and immigration systems, healthcare, green energy, OP.

And the she’s not black is brought to you by the right wing nazi Ali Alexander. Thanks for repeating right wing propaganda.

And she is tough. She made kavanaugh and Barr cry when she questioned them.

Oh, she did not.

As usual lots of racists on this thread.

Kamala is a bitch and that might just be exactly what we need to go against Trump.

Hillary was perceived as a bitch, but she really wasn't much of one in retrospect.

But Kamala is the real thing,

She is the ultimate enemy.

Anyone who says anything that is not totally supportive of a black person is automatically a racist. That's the most convenient way of avoiding any meaningful discussion.

Do you really think Warren is going to get out the minority vote? Or appeal to white blue collar voters?

Yes to both.

[quote] People who use "woke" and "SJW" to describe any politician to the left of Twitler need to be slapped viciously and repeatedly.

Why? She has all 8 traits of a textbook SJW:

- A needlessly hysterical, permanently outraged attitude to social ills

- Being too dogmatic and black-and-white in their views; refusing to acknowledge the nuanced complexity of human society; painting large groups of people in broad strokes

- Enforcing a confrontational and incendiary style of discussion; eagerness to label others as oppressors; holding ordinary people personally responsible for atrocities

- Demanding that others change their attitudes and behavior without a willingness to engage in respectful dialogue; refusal to see respect and tolerance as a two-way street

- Loudly broadcasting their own views while attempting to deprive their opponents of a platform

- Smugly self-aggrandizing their own slacktivism

- Equating pious humorlessness with moral rectitude

- A complete inability to laugh at themselves

I know there are lots of people who want a Dem nominee who can give Trump a beat down in a debate. However, it's likely that if Trump believes he will get beaten in a debate, he will not show up. I hope people will think more about the candidates platforms.

Really it galls me that a black thinks she can run for president just because that halfbreed Obama did.

[quote]Do you really think Warren is going to get out the minority vote? Or appeal to white blue collar voters?

And Kamala is? Because she looks, dresses and acts like a prosperous prosecutor. Nothing about her suggests the common touch. That's Biden's advantage.

Wow, R39, that's some towering intellect you've got there.

I'm assuming that R39 is a parody, based on the signature.

R17, the point of a primary diminishes the further away from January 1st your state is. The damn thing will be decided once they get to my state.

I like KH. She has the "balls" to ask the tough questions. I love when she puts on her prosecutor face. She would annihilate Trunp in the debates.

I wouldn't lay good odds on there being any debates. Trump will find a way to weasel out. He will want to protect himself from failing if a good candidate is chosen. He can't even hack the Kennedy Center Awards.

[quote]Go talk to a real black person and see what they think about her.

She a bougie-ass bitch. Fake-ass Oreo heffa. Ain't got no time for her or her shit.

[quote] I wouldn't lay good odds on there being any debates.

Not sure about this. Clinton prepared for years for those debates. Trump did little or no debate prep. He still got in enough quips to make it seem competitive.

Pro-Clinton media like Vox claimed she gave the best debate performance in history, and it wasn't enough.

I think the debates are more for us to be cheering on our candidate. Too many times people have lost the debate, but won the election. If Trump doesn't want to debate I think it would be fair for the dem nominee to have time to address Trumps news (rants) conferences.

Anyone heard from Cornel Wilde?

He died in 1989 R49.

KH is in her own category when it comes to debates. You can't compare her to HRC or, really, anyone else. She OWNED Biden up there. She's not my first choice (like I said in the last post, with the state I'm in, it's a moot point anyway) but you can't deny that she can seriously destroy her opponent if you've watched her in Judiciary Committee hearings. No one can outdo her in debating, idc how many of them there are.

I think there are lots of men in this country who do not like the idea of a woman telling them what to do and would never vote for one. They may not even realize that's what is what is really under their dislike of the woman who is running. And a fair number of women here follow their men. I would prefer not to take a chance on any female candidate after what happened in 2016. I also think it is hard for a female leader to avoid coming off as the "Mom" archetype which adult men hate, mostly. Gay men don't seem to have a problem with it.

I always thought DL's fixation with certain female candidates is more about their Helen Lawson/Joan Crawford/Judy Garland fetish: divas, dames, damaged gets the DL vote.

Oops meant cornel west r50. Has he weighed in?

If Trump won't debate they should send Anthony Atamanuik as a substitute.

I go back and forth on Kamala but - like OP - I have no idea where she stands politically.

She is smart and comes across as strong

So does Godzilla.

Sadly he is for Bernie R54.

Because she's not a white male and people feel good about THEMSELVES checking off that box.

That's it.

I've followed her since she was DA of San Francisco and have always found her disingenuous and a grandstanding opportunist. Her campaign so far has done nothing to alter that impression.

I think Kamala is going to become an unpleasant, confrontational, but high-functioning drunk after she loses. Imagine dinner parties where she suddenly starts yelling about busing and everyone has to sit there, embarrassed on her behalf, yet again.

Told ya she'd peak too soon.

r62 I recall someone saying she's going to become that if she wins! Prosecutors apparently tun into vindictive paranoid nasties when they find themselves in high positions.

r63 Could you repeat that in (broken) Spanish, lol.

r39 is a racist.

Shun him gals!

You can always tell who Trumpsters are most scared of.

[quote] She OWNED Biden up there

Yeah, she owned Biden in the debate. She ripped him to shreds for opposing federally mandated busing. Then she clarified her remarks to say that she opposes federally mandated busing, but thinks busing should be one of many tools available to school districts -- the same position that she attacked Biden for having.

Now, her new plan is to have the federal government give $100 billion (yes, $100 billion) to black people to help them buy houses. Yeah, that'll go over well with suburban and Midwestern white voters. How long until she walks that back?

Hey, R68 how will her proposal go over with her primary supporters, the ones on the elite coasts?

Whoever is elected, make her the attorney General.

Yeah, she owned Biden in the debates by bringing up a political issue that's been dead for 40 years. And, of course, he did have an answer and she, a couple of days later, agreed with it.

However, I want to know what she'd actually do if she became president--there's more to a presidency than beating Trump. And she's really weak on policy. She flip-flops, there's no through-line on any of it. I'm not OP, but that's been my question as well. Why is she running? It's actually kind of weird to have that prominent a candidate with so little vision and so weak on policy.

She promises to clean up Disneyland’s Toontown. “No more family brawls!”

She promises to clean up Disneyland’s Toontown. “No more family brawls!”

r71 She's the champion of those who want to see Trump get humiliated at the debates, even if he ends up getting reelected. So policy is secondary in their eyes. They just want those couple of debates on tape to tide them over until 2024.

[quote]KH is in her own category when it comes to debates.

The election isn't about the best debater. The white soccer moms and the mid-western swing voters aren't going to look at some uppity black lawyer destroying the opposition at a debate and think "this is who I want to represent America".

r75 Going from the 24/7 drama of a short-fingered vulgarian who can barely string a sentence together to an angry black woman who turns on the waterworks when it's time to take out her political opponents does seem... like quite the leap. I question whether people want that right after Trump.

And I love Warren but I feel like her taking on Trump would bring out the worst in her and debase her in a way. You can only ignore his Pocahontas jibes and talk about policy so many times before it's time to look him in the eye and take a bite. She doesn't have the prosecutorial finesse of Kamala, the calm shade of Pete, the perma-anger of Bernie, or the boyish temperament of Biden. I simply can't imagine what her attacking Trump face-to-face would even look like without her then getting accused of being shrill after.

I'll accuse her of being shrill now!

Honestly, busing, reparations, and $100 BILLION for black people to get "free houses"?

Is she FUCKING KIDDING? I'm beginning to think her campaign is an elaborate hoax!

Well, R77, you answered the question about what her message is.

r76, Doesn't matter about Pete, he doesn't have a chance of being the nominee, much less the president.

Lots of LIES in this thread. Oh, trolls and bots? Not hard to figure out. Kamla is pretty epic if you ask me. We are still early in the process, but she can get to the point better than any candidate (and yes, idiots - candidates wait until late in the game to give much out in the way of policy). What did tRump give? Nothing....and after that PURE LIES. He lies about everything and still fights tooth and nail about releasing tax returns....EVER. Kamala is the ONLY candidate who has a chance at "draining the swamp". The hypocrisy of these idiots and their supporters. It all starts with Moscow Mitch and Jabba the hideous (AG Barr). Kamala is what this country needs BADLY...

Kamala "owned' Biden for about 5 minutes until everybody found out that their positions are actually identical and that she used her race to shame him in public for a position that she AGREES with. I liked him a lot before that moment. Now, not so much.

"him" should be "her"

1. She needs the job

2. All white people are racess

R81 - she actually referred to and referenced politicians that he publically championed both at the time and very recently - and prefaced her comment that she did NOT believe Biden to be a racist. Do you like those certain individuals as well? I think that you are missing her point.. Or are you just a troll? Not sure.

She has a likeability problem.

Read her book, idiots. She explains her past and her goals..

I'm sorry to disappoint you all, but what we think doesn't matter. The DNC will choose their favored candidate, even if that candidate is not highest in the polls. The DNC already know who they are going to pick and the rest is just theater.

Best advice is to relax, understand you have no control over this process, and do NOT give any cash to any candidate until the Primaries are over. Your money will only end up going to the primary candidate (those are the DNC rules).

Try to enjoy the next debate - it's only for entertainment purposes anyway.

Like her or not, at present, Kamala's lost what momentum - look at her numbers and her coverage. The narrative is forming around Biden v. Warren.

Oddly I think Beto may manage somehow to pull up from behind but it may just be a flash in the pan... Warren's talking meat and potatoes (albeit served by your newly hired local social worker) while Beto's still reciting poetry. And Biden is biding time out in the slow lane, letting them fight among themselves.

Kamala could get it back but I can't see how (which is to say if she does get it back the basis will be unexpected.) She peaked too soon and she grabbed the spotlight with a stunt that backfired.

[quote] The DNC will choose their favored candidate

Meaning Biden.

Biden if they want to win. I'm still sending money to Pete just cause I'm gay.

[quote] Read her book, idiots. She explains her past and her goals..

Are you fucking serious? Why can't she get a cogent message across? I could. And I could do it in a paragraph. I don't need a whole book to explain it

That says so much about you, and more importantly, much more about her

[quote] she actually referred to and referenced politicians that he publically championed both at the time and very recently - and prefaced her comment that she did NOT believe Biden to be a racist.

blah, blah, blah. She's a dumb bitch. REPEATEDLY going after Biden for shit that happened 40 yrs ago (all while ignoring trump), and then selling those t-shirts. That's so trump like. Her whole campaign has been bashing Joe and other democrats. All while she has her own past problems as a prosecutor. She should have been bashing trump and telling people what she planned to do if elected. Instead she just wasted time. And that's what she'll do if elected, waste everyone's time for 4 yrs

She'd be a mess as president

I've sent money to Biden, Pete, and Beto. I like Biden and will enthusiastically vote for him, but I wish Pete and Beto were getting more traction and I would love either one on a ticket with Biden.

I've come around on Warren. Bernie is a freak. Kamala is running because someone told her she was supposed to run. She has not done anything, in my opinion, that sets her apart or makes her special. She keeps spilling all of this bullshit and has to walk it back the next day. She's unfocused and her team is letting her down. And quite frankly, there is nothing likeable about her.

People seem to think she will take Trump to the mat in debate on the campaign trail. Bullshit. Trump is debate proof. Trump is gaffe proof. He has a solid base of support at about 40% who are not leaving him. Kamala and her nonsense is not the way to get undecideds and swing state voters.

[quote] Read her book, idiots. She explains her past and her goals..

You sound like the DL'ers in 2016 who were telling us that if we wanted to know why Hillary was running for president, we should download the white papers from her website.

Kamala has been overrated from the start. She's never had the qualities that would make her appealing to voters in the key swing states. The media tried to push the narrative that the Democratic primaries would be a Biden vs. Harris contest, even though the numbers never really supported that. Now, I think the media are slowly coming to their senses and realizing that it's far more likely to come down to Biden vs. Warren.

I'm still sending money to Pete and I'm not gay (middle-aged female actually)--have been a fan of his since first time I heard him on a podcast in March). I'm also sending money to Warren. I will vote for anybody but the orange piece of crap (reluctantly even Sanders, though I don't think that's happening). Would also love a Warren/Buttigieg ticket, though I think now it will probably be Biden/Warren. I would also be happy with Stacey Abrams as VP--I send her group Fairfight money too. No matter how many gaffes Uncle Joe makes, he can't top Trump in two lifetimes. Oh yeah, I also give money to Amy McGrath in Kentucky and Mark Kelly in Arizona. We need to win back the Senate too. It would only take winning four more seats this time.

And I don't like Kamala (ever since I saw her in those hearings being a bitch). Her message is, I'm Kamala and I'm multiracial. That's what she's got.

[quote]And I don't like Kamala (ever since I saw her in those hearings being a bitch). Her message is, I'm Kamala and I'm multiracial. That's what she's got.

I think you're probably right.

She's also got that ragweed season voice.

I suppose that doesn't help.

[quote] She's also got that ragweed season voice.

What?

Well listen to her... she sounds like she's talking through her nose while looking down it.

She is exactly the breath of fresh air that this country needs. LOVE KAMALA!

Care to explain that fresh air r100, or is it just the female and biracial and isn't that plenty kinda stuff?

I had lunch with a old friend that I lost touch with a couple of years ago . 5 minutes after sitting down I find out that he is a solid Trump supporter. He's in the service so it doesn't surprise me, but I'm disappointed. Anyway, he likes the President because a "businessman is what the country needs" and "he's the only honest politician". I countered the points the best I could without being disrespectful, since I didn't want to throw away our relationship. By the end of the meal I came to a realization, Trump supporters, like my friend, don't waste time trying to convince us that they are right. They are confident in their support of the President and energized to keep him in office. So I've decided that there is no point voting for a do nothing centrist like Biden, Harris or even Pete, in the primary, when I've got a straight talker like Warren with exciting polices. She is devoted to change. The country has been in need of positive change since the Twin Towers came down and we've fallen into this pessimistic rut.

You can't sway trump supporters from the President, best we can do is overwhelm them with our own turnout by waking up the fence sitters that went 3rd part or stayed home in 2016. Warren has a great ground game that might squeak out a win in Iowa. Harris, offers a ton of pro-banking and anti-minority skeletons that we would have to defend. She will depress turnout for minorities to guarantee a loss. Trump's AG WILL make up some bullshit investigation into Harris' actions as AG in CA or San Fran, heed this warning. Something explosive will come out before the vote, just like it did under Hillary. We take a lot less risk with Warren's past compared to Harris.

Biden will let one gaff after another come out of his mouth. He will look more senile the longer we keep him in this race. He is a DC insider, which is what the left and right have emphatically stated that they don't want. Pete requires Dems to win a morality argument, about a gay man representing this country. He's going up against a man's man, that dates models and fucks porn stars, white people love that shit. Pete it's not worth the risk in 2020. He's young and can wait another two cycles. Beto is a joke. Bernie is only useful for playing defense for Warren as the most left leaning candidate.

Op, Harris and most of the candidates are running just to run. I think their 15 plus primary candidates will now be the norm since it guarantees a few hundred thousand in book sales (candidate's pocket) and hundreds of thousands in campaign donations with minimal risk. If things don't work out, they simply bow out before you go into debt and transfer the funds to your House/Senate/Gubernatorial account. Win win all around.

Angry black woman = career

r103 = scared white man

I do not in 5 million years believe Elizabeth Warren can win the Electoral College.

She's playing it safe, but perhaps too safe. She's a prosecutor and holds her cards close. If you make lots of promises and can't deliver, it comes back to haunt you come re-election time.

But she's not afraid to 'go there' and that's what it's going to take to beat Trump. Taking the high road won't work this time (listening, Hillary?).

Agree 100% with R106. She is holding her cards close for a good reason. Like Nancy Pelosi, she knows how to play the long game. We are way too early in the process to go for the money shot. What she is doing is working as she remains a strong contender and continues to get tons of endorsements along the way. She is beloved for good reason - her brilliant performances against Jabba the Hutt (Bill Barr), that repulsive idiot SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh and many others have endeared her to the American public who actually have brains in their craniums. She is a brilliant woman and a stellar public speaker. She's all good. Really good.

r107 = Douglas Emhoff, Harris jobless troll hubby

[quote] She is holding her cards close for a good reason. Like Nancy Pelosi, she knows how to play the long game.

I agree. Her polling in the single digits -- nearly 20 points behind Biden -- is no cause for concern. It's actually part of her brilliant strategy to win the nomination. And when she ends up finishing no better than 3rd or 4th in both Iowa and New Hampshire, that, too, will be part of her brilliant strategy to win the nomination. Pure brilliance.

Kamala Harris is running for president for the same reason as Hillary Clinton. They both think they deserve to be America's first female president.

LOL at the ridiculous notion Kamala Harris is beloved.

[bold]Aside from Biden's increase, the only statistically meaningful change in the candidate standings is a 12-point decline in support for California Sen. Kamala Harris, who stood at 17% support in the June poll but now has the backing of 5% of potential Democratic voters. That's similar to the level of support she had in the spring before a surge following her initial debate performance.[/bold]

^

$100 BILLION for black people.

That's 13.4% of the total population 327 million.

So how much is that each ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

A lot of thinly veiled (and not so thinly veiled) racism on this thread.

Yes, you're right Comrade R115 and we all know that Racism Is Sinful!

She's being rejected, R115, by Black voters in South Carolina, one of the early primary states. Biden is polling around 51% among Black Democrats there. Probably internalized racism.

Bye, bye Kamala. The bus has arrived.

Kamala and the bus.

Cheesey stunts like that belong in Hollywood, not politics.

Lots of trolls in this thread. I can only actually SEE a little over half of the replies, which in my mind means that I had to block many of these posters in the past for pro-Trump, pro-GOP reasons.

There are anti-Kamala trolls here and there are Pro-Kamala trolls here.

r118

[quote]Harris is now considerably weaker across the board. She dropped by over 10 points with whites and nonwhites. She declined by 9 points or more with those under the age of 50 as well those aged 50 and older.Her biggest drop might have been among liberals. She went from 24% in late June to only 4% now.

[quote]Harris' decline is seen in other questions too. When asked which candidates they'd like to hear more about, 30% said Harris in late June. That was more than any other candidate. Now, only 18% say they want to hear more about Harris. That's slightly behind Elizabeth Warren, who clocked in at 20%.

Sheeeiiiiit. Those are brutal stats. I told you bitches older Dems and moderates didn't appreciate her attacking Biden so viciously, yet you all dismissed me at the time and told me to just look at her post-debate poll bump and be quiet.

Who cares. She has no chance.

There is not a chance in hell that Kamala Harris is going to be the nominee. The probable ticket will be Biden/Warren.

Even if The Big Kamala has no chance of being a nominee I want to see her on TV!

She has (a rather big head) but she also has a VERY BIG PERSONALITY!

The USA is already a Democratic Sociologist country. Do not listen to the Fucking Fascist. Fascism is the moral enemy to our country. Also, I want to add Americans deserve Modern Medicine. Vote out any one who is against you and your family having health care. I love bernie sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Who know the people that fascists are afraid of? I say GOOD!

"Democratic Sociologist" ... Oh dear!!

I don't believe the VP will come from the Senate. They don't want to lose any seats.

[quote]good at throwing zingers, tough as nails while prosecuting

That’s all she’s got. Zingers and ‘mic drop’ moments. People want to see her destroy Trump in a face to face debate. That’s all there is. Doesn’t make her someone I’d want to see as president every day for the next four years.

Trolls be gone. LOVE Kamala.

R130 The Mighty Kamala is too big for trolls.

Yeah she’s back down to 5% in the polls so bye, Kammy. Take your sour face and whiny nasal voice elsewhere.

From Twitter:

[quote]Kamala Harris's speech at the DNC was boosted by a cheering section of about 40 people that her campaign brought in, erupting every time she hit a big line -- and then that group got up and walked out as soon as she finished

R133 This link says they're 'Claqueurs'

Bump. Kamala fans please post.

They have all deserted her.

It's amazing to me how out of contention she seems to be, in media coverage. The media is such a destructive force. Determined to have their horse race. It's all Liz gaining ground, Bernie losing ground, who can get the black vote, Pete stuck, Joe at risk. The rest of 'em may as well be over Swallowell's, wondering where it all went wrong.

I was a Kamala fan at first, but as time went on Warren/Buttigieg became my 2 favorite candidates. Warren I went in skeptical as hell about b/c I knew she was smart and to be trusted, but I felt men might have a problem with her. As time went on she became THE candidate for me. Buttigieg I love his intellect and his calm yet argumentative side . So, Warren earned my trust, Pete earned my heart.

As this relates to Kamala, I thought she would cement the minority vote and would be a feisty opponent for Trump. Pure and simple, if she were on the stage vs Trump it would be a showdown of words and he's too stupid to deal with her unrelenting and bitchy persona. I think most people who like her, like her b/c she's feisty and that's probably it. IF you recall that Youtube video where they did a gender swap and had actors be Hillary and Trump, the Female Trump was perceived as the stronger leader. So, it's not about gender so much as it is about who is the biggest douche. While Kamala is not a douche , she is a lot to deal with for some people which means she douche-like i.e. close enough to a female Trump .

I do agree Kamala doesn't have a strong reason why she is running. We all know Bernie and Liz are progressive/socialist in their goals. Harris just seems to like to make noise and show she is a fighter . So, I guess she's running b/c she can fight (a policy battle) ???????

[quote]I think most people who like her, like her b/c she's feisty and that's probably it.

Warren seems feisty, Kamala just seems permanent pissed off.

Yes, Kamala seems as 'permanently pissed off' as Bette Davis over her 40 years.

[quote] It's amazing to me how out of contention she seems to be, in media coverage.

Kamala was always out of contention. It's just that the media, after fawning over her originally, have finally come to their senses.

Did any of you still support her after she came out with her demands for IMMEDIATE anti-lynching legislation the day after that fake MAGA Jussie Smollett attack? Really??

She jumped on that bandwagon with cape flying. Idiot.

She got destroyed on Twitter for trying to push another hoax that guns are available to buy online with "1 Click".

Absolutely false.

Loved Kamala on CNN - Climate Crisis..

She is in over her head. Her style saved her out of the gate but she doesn't have a lot to offer, it seems.

OP's strategy worked. Kamala has fallen to bottom rung.

4th place out of 10 might not be GREAT, but hardly bottom rung. Candidates 6 to 10 are currently considered bottom rung.

Why don't we care about Kamala any longer? Is she over? Is her collapse complete? Will she enter history just for having good taste in clothes and being a bitch to Joe Biden?

Flavor of the Week.

Kamala will be the next AG if we win the 2020 election. I can't WAIT for her to light a fire under those nasty, vile fatties in the GOP. ALL of them TRUMPS, Jabba the Barr, etc.

Ovah.

She's not going to be the next AG. She's a senator from California--a more desirable job and she'll have it as long as she wants it. I hate her behavior towards Biden, but I'll vote for her as senator again.

She had bad advice.

R152, her job might be more desirable, but we NEED HER as the next AG.

Kamala Harris was against any criminal justice or sentencing reform. She mean. She likes to incarcerate people.

Next debate, she's going to come out firing strong against Biden and Warren. Watch.

She’s a younger, mixed-race, liberal woman who looks like a modern American.

[quote]Kamala just seems permanent pissed off.

A lot of Americans are permanently pissed off about the state of our country, and want someone who shares their anger to fix things.

She’s be doing much better if Biden wasn’t in it. She’s more moderate than Sanders and Warren, which is what many voters are looking for.

I'm kind of surprised she's even doing as well as she is. She's not relatable or warm. Bad track record as prosecutor.

[quote]She’s be doing much better if Biden wasn’t in it. She’s more moderate than Sanders and Warren, which is what many voters are looking for.

She was horrible. Her team is horrible. She didn't have a clear reason why she was running. She was never ready for primetime. And she focused too much on Biden and didn't anticipate that a 5th tier candidate would come up behind her and smoke her. Make her AG and be done with this one.

There would seem to be a direct correlation between OP's question and the fact that Harris's campaign in being run by many of the people who worked for Hillary in 2016.

Fuck you guys who hate because she is black. I LOVE her and I am white. Get over it.

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Hell, they've been given more than enough and they've yet to learn a thing. Reparations would just be another financial giveaway and most of the them will piss through it and be broke in no time.

Kamala is running the same reason every other candidate is running. Because it is her right.

R163 She isn't a 'black'.

Wrong continent. She's brown at best.

Kamala's mission is to bring big wine glasses to State Dinners.

"I . . . am that Wine Glass!"

Because...........

[quote]"I . . . am that Wine Glass!"

Can I get a t-shirt?

My impression of Kamala Harris is that she is EXACTLY like myself and every upper middle-class liberal I know. She's not weird. Obama was a bit of a weirdo. Mayor Pete is a weirdo. Elizabeth Warren is deeply weird and a bit clown creepy. Kamala Harris is your colleague who gets her job done and doesn't have time for a lot of bullshit. I guess that isn't ver Presidential, like her whine. I think she would do fine in the job. I don't see anyone but people "like us" voting for her.

R171 Was there one thing in particular which made you think Obama was a bit of a weirdo?

Obama comes from a strange couple the Kenyan prof who skipped away and the vagabond academic boho. He was a pot head, clearly. Went to some standard college. Not much is known about his transfer to Columbia and the odd roommates. Missing years here and there. The public service in Chicago. The kind of "do gooder" vaguely christian sanctimony, shared with Mayor Pete. The reigned in, OCD-ish meritocractic narrative. Maybe a downlow gay in Chicago. Not busting the Dillinger Capitalist. Cutting deals with Big Pharma - hush hush. And the spectacular mismanagement of the election cycle Russian offensive.

I happily voted for Obamas 2 times but an open book he is NOT. I found him disingenuous. Also he offered boilerplate hosannas about the late great Maya Angelou, surely one the biggest frauds in Black American history, and OBAMA knows that, and still just did his blah blah. It really bugged me. I have zero respect for May Angelou.

I wouldn't be shocked to learn in 20 years Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. I REALLY DON'T CARE, DO YOU? But I believe it's possible. And I REALLY DON'T CARE.

^ Is that picture Maya Angelou?

Yes dear.

We need to stay focused on the main goal, which is get Trump OUT and get a Democrat IN. It doesn't have to be the candidate we personally like best. It needs to be the ticket that has the best chance of winning. Whether someone is a little to far left or a little to centrist is almost irrelevant when you keep in mind what we have in office now.

We need a combination that has the best chance of winning over people in swing states, and not alienating the mainstream population. Biden (if he can keep it together) / Warren could be that combination. I haven't ruled Kamala out completely but, again, what's our main goal? This is one of the most important elections in history. Think of the damage Trump could do to the world in 4 more years, especially if he has no concern about the possibility of re-election.

Pete might make a great Secretary of State and then he can come back in the the Presidential arena later. He's still very young. I really like his style.

Kamalawful suxx

R173 I was rather dismayed to learn after the fact how much power Valerie Jarrett had in running the White House, almost to the extent where Obama was more of an administrator, figurehead, etc. My bet is that it wouldn't be the Hawaii thing that would come out later, but something to do with the couple's personal life. Anyway, I had no problem with him either as he was so much vastly preferable to McCain and Romney that there was essentially no contest there.

Pete as SOS under Warren would be a good deal for both of them, as I feel his foreign policy chops maybe even slightly more than hers, and they wouldn't have to worry about a difference of opinion over domestic policy issues; in other words, were she to do that the end result would help both of them.

I don't think we will see Mayor Pete in the next President's administration, at all.

She's basically Gillibrand. She's horrible.

Tulsi is the one who sucks. She voted for Jill Stein in the general election in 2016 instead of the candidate of her supposed party.

Enough said.

No she didn't dumb cunt R181

R5 BINGO!

She's the POC awaiting the POC vote. No need for her to do anything else.

Tulsi still sucks.

She's FOX news commentator's favorite Democratic candidate (or as they would say "Democrat" candidate).

Sorry, but I like my Democratic candidates NOT endorsed by FOX news.

Even tho that's a dumb smear AGAIN, at least she's **someone's** favorite. Unlike Kamala who no one likes even tho they push her so hard <3

At least my black ass made it to the 3rd debate TULSIIIII! Where were you?!?!?

oh that's right, you didn't make it. Hee.

You mean her Canadian-Indian ass. And she had the media giving her puff pieces and talking (unjustly) about how AMAZING and still no one likes her 🥰

Tulsi at least contends with a hostile media and astroturfing from the corporate party machine

R187 "I . . . am that Hostile Media!"

New poll tonight from NBC puts Kamala behind Pete.

the poll

Kamala is the drama queen. Maybe she’s just auditioning to be cast in a tv drama.

^ That old man seemed as ancient and feeble as this old man—

someone on another thread said she seemed bored and distracted now that her moment as a superstar has passed.

She knows she's losing and she doesn't like to lose. In her mind I bet she will blame it on racism, not on her less than appealing personal qualities (just a guess--I don't know her). But she has raised a lot of money (more than Warren), so she will certainly wait to see how she does in South Carolina.

Harris plummets in the polls - I wonder why? I apologize in advance to those who condone police violence and bigotry:

1. She fought to keep an innocent man on Death Row over a paperwork technicality. Let. That. Sink. In. Innocent man + Death Row + paperwork technicality = miscarriage of justice. The man was eventually released after intense public demand. (NYT)

2. Two cops broke down the door of a 56 year-old mentally ill woman's home, they shot her twice, she nearly died. Instead of prosecuting the rogue cops, she prosecutes the victim. A jury didn't buy her story and awarded the victim $1 million in damages. (MercuryNews)

3. She fought the implementation of body cameras on all police officers. (NYT)

4. She ignored a police brutality case in Anaheim where a Hispanic woman and her child were mauled by a K9 that somehow "escaped" the police car, and an unarmed Hispanic father was killed by the police for running away from a protest. (LAT)

5. She blocked mandatory investigations into murders committed by police. (Sacbee)

6. When Harris was San Francisco’s district attorney in 2010, she was condemned by a judge for staying silent about a police laboratory technician who had been accused of stealing drugs and “intentionally sabotaging” her work. She could have and should have warned defense lawyers about this technician’s wrongdoings, but she chose not to — and even went so far as to contest the condemnation, claiming that the judge had done so only out of bias because her husband was a defense attorney. Harris eventually lost this argument, and more than 600 cases that had been handled by the technician were tossed out. (National Review)

7. The case of Daniel Larsen: Harris tried to uphold a 28-year-to-life sentence for Larsen for possession of a concealed weapon, despite the fact that “there was compelling evidence of his innocence” and “his trial lawyer was incompetent.” She lost.

8. The case of Johnny Baca, who had been convicted of murder “even though judges found a prosecutor presented false testimony at the trial.” Despite the clear issues with his conviction, Harris still supported it initially, reversing her course only after the injustice had gained national attention.

9. The case of Kevin Cooper, an inmate on death row whose trial had been influenced “by racism and corruption.” She initially opposed his bid to prove his innocence through DNA testing, relenting only after his case went viral. (Gov. Jerry Brown approved the bid for this testing.)

And that's just scratching the surface of this abhorrent person's record. These are not opinions, these are facts. Not even going into her argument that prisoners eligible for parole should remain incarcerated for the cheap labor or locking up weed users while joking about smoking weed herself. If you think all of that is alright, excusable, then the United States Constitution disagrees with you.

[quote]Harris plummets in the polls - I wonder why?

Most pundits say that she didn't capitalise on that huge moment she got after the first debate and I agree with them. Bad campaign management 101. You have to do way more than just sell "I was that little girl" T-shirts on Insta because America is bigger than the woke contingent in California, which doesn't even swing elections. And now she's fourth in the latest California poll. Fourth in her home state.

She's also been fundraising on the coasts and neglecting the early primary states so her Q3 haul won't look too bad, and the polls in those states are starting to reflect that.

And don't even get me started on her weak and at times bizarre performance during the second and third debate. Who the hell is doing her debate prep?!

My message is whatever you think it is.

You're right, it'll be the race card. What I can't understand is why the media is not questioning her appalling record? If that mother in Anaheim, her toddler, and the unarmed man killed by police where black instead of Hispanic, it would be all over the news - as well it should be, but yet she gets a pass? Come on, talking heads, do some research on the fraud of a person.

Drunk or high?

She’s a strong woman of color. Isn’t that enough?

r200 So race and sex alone qualify a person to be POTUS? Nothing about their record/transgressions/violating constitutional rights? Then bring on Oprah, she's qualified!

I've given up on Harris. Having watched her, I've come to the view she's intelligent and a good reactor. She analyses well. She is a good cross examiner. But she lacks... legislative creativity. She doesn't have a vision. You know why Biden and Warren and Sanders and Pete and even Beto are running (whether you agree or not.) I still can't nail exactly why Harris is running.

She's a great member of the team but she's not captain material.

Because she wants to be fucking president. Nobody asks males candidates why they are running. I remember when Hillary was running for president last time, there were people asking the same thing. She's not even my preferred candidate, but it's ridiculous the hoops that that female candidates are expected to jump through that male candidates aren't.

No, it's more that those two candidates, who happen to be women, really didn't come up with terrific reasons.

"I was that little (disingenuous) girl" who had T-shirts printed and ready for sale the morning after the first debate.

There's something in the ascent of Elizabeth Warren (who I think is a deeply problematic nominee but who for now is on the march) that explains part of Harris' problem.

Warren is likeable. Even going for the laugh SNL nailed it: I've got the energy of a mom with five boys playing different sports. And there's something to it. She's having fun, she believes in what she's doing and, to use an overused word, it's authentic and it shows. Bernie1.0 was probably a lot like that in his own way in the run up to 2016. Biden's lacklustre performance this time around reflects his lack of energy. Harris... what does she do? She doesn't offer anything authentic. She's not inauthentic either. She just lacks the intangible... star quality... whatever you want to call it.

I do find Harris inauthentic--to me she seems like she's acting all the time, maybe unconsciously. She doesn't show real emotions. Her laughter seems forced. Her prosecutorial role play in the Senate hearings last year seemed like....role play (although that's what prosecutors do). I could never figure out why I didn't like her from the beginning, and gradually came to realize that there is no there there. It was the same with Hillary (whom I voted for of course)--she was never real, always playing a role in some way. That's what made her so unlikeable.

Elizabeth Warren OTOH seems genuinely enthusiastic and optimistic. She isn't forcing it--it's her real self. People respond to that. She has by far more positive energy than any other candidate in the Dem field and people want that hopefulness. It'll be interesting to see going forward.

Part of it may be Harris is a lawyer's lawyer... They are trained in methodical. TV notwithstanding, all the lawyers I work with (corporate law) are smart, diligent, plodding, dull and nerdy. Warren seems to have a personality that transcends it. She's animated.

Bill Clinton transcended it too. Hillary really didn't. For the most part, lawyers are pretty dull if very smart characters so trying to turn them into performers is a big stretch in most cases, unless they've naturally got it (and then they're probably in litigation anyway.)

Things are looking grim for Harris. She's giving up on New Hampshire and laying off staff. She says she's sacrificing New Hampshire to focus on Iowa, but the latest Iowa polls have her in 6th place, tied with Yang. She'll probably drop out even before the primaries start.

Her whole campaign is based on giving out Redfordations. It’s condescending and divisive but she’s pandering to the SJWs.