Kevin Spacey Accuser’s Texts To GF Revealed

The girlfriend seems dumb as a brick.

Why did he remain after the first grope ! Must have enjoyed the attention

R2 is an idiot. He was intimidated by a famous person.

We got the redacted Mueller Report on this one! Apparently all the missing texts explain the setup!

What setup? The one that exists in your head?

This is bullshit. Release the entire conversation with timestamps. Also, if you don't want a guy to grab your DICK a 2nd time, push him away after the first and yell NO HOMO, DUDE! I am old so we went to clubs in our teens. I8 was legal. I was ALWAYS calling my mom when a perve perved on me. Cause that's what one does when one is a big grown up man at a bar.

The "alleged victim"worked at the restaurant and knew who Spacey was and what he was. The "victim" is the type of con artist who makes it difficult for real victim to get justice. The same holds true for his mother and girlfriend. They thought they were going to pull the perfect scam on Spacey but it blew up in their stupid faces.

#NoMoneyForYou !

R6 is an idiot. If the guys hitting on you were famous, you,'d probably be too intimidated.

R7 is too stupid to live. You don't get money by filing criminal charges. And if he just wanted money, why did he wait this long?

Can’t Kevin just pay the guy off?

Well, Golly, R8 ...

He had to wait because it takes time to plan the perfect crime, to coordinate your fake story, to decide on a reasonable $ettlement amount, choose the perfect geeky wardrobe, practice fake tears and a trembling voice on demand. It takes a lot of time and perseverance to sway a skeptical jury.

Has the kid made an offer to $ettle?

R10, he psychically predicted Spacey would come in that night? Btw, he hasn't even filed a lawsuit so far. So much for doing it for the money.

You must be really dumb to think Spacey is innocent. He is well known for hitting on straight twinks. Nice of you to defend someone who tried to distance himself from the gay community as much as possible, and only came out when he was exposed as a predator

The Spacey troll who posted at r6 is also r10

Great work, Columbo at r12.

No one could’ve figured that out, especially since he was responding to someone else.

R11, Hitting on young twinks ain’t illegal unless theyre underage. This guy was not.

Only an idiot would feel sorry for the kid, I mean man, who gave Spacey his number and let him grope him repeatedly without so much as simply saying no. He "probably" was too intimidated does not cut it. We're talking about an adult. End of story.

Public sentiment seems to be on Spacey's side. There are more texts and they probably make the alleged victim look even worse, if that's even possible at this point.

Even conservative sites are pro Spacey and many are generally homophobic.

Your Sherlock @r12 .......I am r10, but I am NOT R6.

R14 Has a very... shall we say .."aggressive" definition of "hitting on". POTUS would approve.

And Donald Trump has assaulted how many women?

R19 What's the big deal about feeling up someone at a bar if they are consenting? Seriously.

IntimiDATED by Spacey....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

That does explain why he hung around for an additional seven crotch-grabs. He wasn't too nervous to count the thrills, was he?

Sometimes I forget this is a gay site. Perhaps some people here haven't set foot in a bar in over 30 years.

I 💟 r23 !

Even if he isn't found guilty of a crime, it shows what a creepy boundary stomping POS he is. How is this different to Trump's "you can grab 'em by the puss because you're famous" shtick? Gay or not, not many people are desperate enough to be ok with that behaviour.

The funniest part is the guy texting Kevin Spacey is gay as if everyone didn't know already.

Only an idiot like r15 would defend a serial sexual predator like Kevin Spacey

R22 thinks boys want to get grabbed by a chubby, balding 60 year old man. LOL.

[quote]You must be really dumb to think Spacey is innocent. He is well known for hitting on straight twinks.

Spacey is gross, and I'm sure he did everything the accuser said he did, but this does sound like a set up. Why would a grown man stick around and let some perv in a bar grope his dick 8 times if he was neither interested sexually nor saw an opportunity to get something out of the situation? And "omg, nobody could be brave enough to say no to a FAMOUS person!" does not cut it as an explanation.

R28, if it's a setup, why didn't he go for the money ASAP? This happened 3 years ago.

R23 I don't know what kind of bars you go to, but touching men below the waist without permission is not appropriate. It is predatory, creep that a jury would have no issue with allowing a claim of self-defense if the perv got beaten within an inch of his life.

[quote][R28], if it's a setup, why didn't he go for the money ASAP? This happened 3 years ago.

Maybe he thinks he can get an even bigger civil settlement if there's a criminal conviction first.

R30 = Sister Mary Agony, SSJ

Does it matter if it's a setup? Setting up criminals happens all the time whether for personal gain or law enforcement purposes. Are we just sour we didn't think of it? We aren't attractive enough to pull it off or are we trying to rationalize our own despicable behavior?

R33 Yeah, this was a sting operation.

The helpless victim's mother orchestrated this scenario from day one. Didn't you notice how many media appearances SHE made? Why do you think sonny boy kept calling her from the bar, and took the time to carry on a full blown texting session with his "girlfriend?"

I'm attractive enough, and smart enough to pull it off. Next to that dumb ass kid and his lowlife momma, I'm a freaking rocket scientist. But above it all, I'm a decent human being with a real sense of right and wrong, and wouldn't stoop so low as to make accusations against anyone, no matter how I feel about them.

You know I don't believe it was a sting operation. But why defend a criminal deviant for his criminality being exploited for profit. I certainly don't shed a tear when a drug dealer gets ripped off by a junkie.

We got bigger fish to fry than Spacey’s Dong Diddlin’ fine him $10k, 3 days in county and be done. Give the “traumatized victim” $10k too.

Of course the kid is just looking to get paid! But so what, that’s how it works. Spacey should’ve figured out way earlier that he was a walking gold-digger trap.

Wait. Kevin Spacey is gay?!?

Give the kid a bottle of peppermint schnapps and a bag of pork rinds and send him home.

Yeah, screw due process. We need a judicial express lane. That'll solve our problems.

The kid was not intimidated at all...he is simply a born grifter and he saw a way to make a buck. People need to grow up.

And how does r35 know what happened?

Asshat.

And he found a suitable mark who was too stupid and criminal to avoid his scam. Sorry, Kevin. Grab the bull's balls you get the bull's horns.

[quote]Grab the bull's balls you get the bull's horns.

Not necessarily. Back in St. Olaf...

You know more incriminating texts are coming.

Being gross is not the same thing as being a predator. Predation requires an element of coercion.

If there are other allegations about Spacey, I'm open to hearing them. This is nothing. Holy shit, people are such fucking wimps now. How about saying "If you touch me again, I'll fuckin' flatten you?" Dude was 18 years old. There's nothing here.

The mother is to blame for bringing this out to the public. She's a nutcase.

"He guh guh grr GROPED me muh muh MULTIPLE times. Seven, eight? I was so oh oh overwhelmed I lost count of the guh guh gropes, my puh puh penis FROZE I-I-I couldn't move I-I was stah stuh struh STARSTRUCK... huh huh hold me, David, I'm scared"

The fucker is 18 but to stupid to say, NO!?

He must have a VERY HOT COCK!

Why are you so emotionally invested in dragging the guy? There's something more going on with you than you are sharing.

[quote]The fucker is 18 but to stupid to say, NO!?

Oh, dear!

If grabbing dicks w/o permission in a bar is now considered deviant, prosecutable, criminal behavior I guess that's the end of gay bars. They all need to be shut down for "deviant" behavior and half the clientele hauled off to jail..

You really need be hanging out in better quality places if half the clientele is grabbing dicks without permission. Do you know the difference between a bar and backroom?

If all else fails, he can sell his story to the Enquirer.

I can see it now . . . . . .

[Italic] KEVIN SPACEY MADE ME GAY ..........

And I Liked It !

"Oh, Mr. Spacey! Do you like it?"

"Mr. Spacey, right here??!!"

"Kevin, you keep touching me, I swear I'm gonna get sooo hard! I'm warning you!"

"Kevin, it's just my dick! Is that all you want?"

Because r43, I'm Miss Dionne Warwick, you jackass.

A.K.A. r35.

[italic] BINGO !

[quote] The "alleged victim"worked at the restaurant and knew who Spacey was and what he was.

So Kevin Spacey, a celebrity, assaulted someone in the victim's workplace and the victim is the bad guy for letting it happen out of fear of losing his job?

Or, what, is it part of his job is to allow being groped by the patrons and showing them a good time by letting them open his pants and let them touch his dick?

R59 He wasn't working at the time he hung with Spacey. If he was so concerned about losing his job, he wouldn't have lied about his age or be caught being served at the establishment.

After hours, the kid's workin' the bar for tips. Big tips.

One can only assume that Spacey was a lousy tipper.

Did his mother drop him off at the bar, and tell him where to sit?

[quote] "I got the autographs and a hell of a story"

Sounds like he's never going to get over this traumatizing assault. Horrifying.

It’s the involvement of the kid’s mother that makes the whole incident suspicious. I have two teenage sons. Neither of them would be too intimidated to walk away if a celebrity grabbed their crotch. Nor would any of their friends. I CAN envision a kid allowing it just because it was so bizarre and they wanted a good story. My kids and their friends know what homophobia is, they know it exists, but have seen very little IRL - the worst example being something like using “homo” as a synonym for wimp. Which happened to one of them last week and then all the boys in the group got a little embarrassed when they realized one of the group was gay and one bi. But there would be no embarrassment or shame for the victim of Kevin Spacey’s crotch grabbing . They would laugh (because the kid could walk away, when KS corners a kid in a hotel room, different story). However, I am old enough to remember when that was not the case and would not want my young son’s molestation by Keven Spacey to go on the record. But I am very conservative that way (about putting stuff related to one’s relationships or sexuality in the permanent public domain., not about homosexuality). So, from my perspective, the mother is doing the opposite of protecting her son.

Maybe the kid was bi-curious.

R55 The alleged victim spent a long time with Spacey which included flirting. In that situation, touching can and usually does occur with greater escalation if both parties are consenting.

R64 I would've thought at one time that the mother was preying on her son but the texts clearly indicate he was in on it the whole time.

Hi$ mom $ent him in there a$ bait.

But is he gay gay. Also, this doesn't sound like rape rape. What ever happened to Diane.

MOM-BITCH IN ACTION: Heather Unruh —

[quote] You know I don't believe it was a sting operation. But why defend a criminal deviant for his criminality being exploited for profit.

I have no sympathy for Spacey, but I'd rather see him going to court for something that was clearly actionable—e.g., groping or otherwise molesting someone underage or forcing film/theater production employees to "service" him in order to keep their jobs. Of everything he's (probably) done, this incident makes for a flimsier case than most. The alleged victim was an adult who apparently made no attempt to leave the scene or tell Spacey to stop; I can imagine it will not be difficult to argue that his sexual interactions with Spacey were consensual, or at least that Spacey had legitimate reason to believe his sexual advances were welcome.

Sincerely, what ever happened to Diane? After coming out as gay, did he have talk about Diane? Was he bisexual at the time. Weren't they engaged?

A kid walks into a bar ............

Kevin Spacey is a sleaze and a creep. But sure, he was SET UP! Kevin's the victim! Poor Kevin! Leave Kevin alone!

Not to feel make excuses for Spacey, but I feel like he was closeted for so long it ended up being an uncontrollable sexual perversions. he's obviously attracted to younger guys. Such a great talent, wasted.

He may have been in the closet, but he always left the door open.

Since when is touching a cock an uncontrollable sexual perversion?

That's barely second base.

It's sexual assault when the other one didn't consent.

Thank You, Gloria Alred

We must have different rules for baseball. That is trying to steal third where I'm from and sixty year old celebrity doing this to a teenager in public shows really self-destructive impulse control issues.

I prefer golf. There is nothing like the crowning achievement of a glorious hole-in-one.

Those pesky missing texts, like Nixon’s missing 18 minutes, speak volumes.

That boy was 18? That is the age for legal consent, but don't you have to be 21 to legally consume alcohol?

Boy knew exactly what he was doing.

The encounter itself wasn't a setup. The young man did nothing wrong, besides being a bit homophobic and flirting for autographs and a fucking selfie. His mother is a different story - exploiting both her son and Mr. Spacey for relevance and financial gain.

She didn't urge her son to file any complaint before Oct-Nov '17 because she was still relevant until the fall of '16 and she had no idea by then that Mr. Spacey might be an easy target. I used to give her the benefit of doubt and think she was innocently and maybe homophobically over-protective of her son, but not anymore.

What I can't wrap my head around, is why did the DA move forward with this case, knowing everything we now know about the texts, since day 1?

People are blaming the kid for not saying no, but didn't Richard Dreyfuss's son say Spacey did the exact same thing to him and he also did nothing. If I recall correctly, the Dreyfuss son just sat there in front of his father while Spacey gave him a handjob on the sofa. I was a very introverted teen, and still shy and socially awkward into my early 20s. There were a few occasions I was groped and just froze, mostly from embarrassment. I was terrified of "making a scene in public."

I find it hard to believe - actually I don't believe- that Spacey is going to give a kid a handjob in front of the kid's father.

Lying for personal gain and attention has become so fashionable these days.

[quote] If I recall correctly, the Dreyfuss son just sat there in front of his father while Spacey gave him a handjob on the sofa.

You have recalled incorrectly. He placed his hand on his clothed thigh. He admitted he didn't find anything unusual about it until he heard about the other allegations.

R85, there is a lot to be said about the Dreyfus situation itself, but the most obvious is that it is NOTHING like the situation at hand.

So you're an enabler r85, just what the world needs.

It is hilarious to go from he touched my thigh to giving him a handjob. Basically, Biden is accused of things more serious.

I guess playing footsie underneath the table is no longer considered semi-indecent behavior

R90 what ever happened to “shouldergate”?

Read Harry Dreyfuss’ Account for yourselves. No, Spacey didn’t jack him off, but the account is just as harrowing.

[quote]Basically, Biden is accused of things more serious.

No he’s not. What the fuck are you talking about?

I seriously thought about traveling to America to pursue a career in acting.

Now I'm having second thoughts.

R93 why say anything? He has family money and work. Now this victimhood will follow him forever.

R96 It's his only claim to fame apparently. That's the first thing that pops up when you google his name.

Dreyfuss never told his father, but he claims to have spent he following nine years telling his story at parties for laughs?

Of course I believe this kid.........NOT!

The Harry Dreyfuss' "sexual assault" saga reads like a fictionalized novella for Penthouse Forum.

I’m so confused, I thought it was Richard Dreyfuss who was j’accused?!?

Yes, Dreyfuss was accused by someone who he thought of as a good friend. It was after the Spacey incident was widely reported.

It would have been 9 but he came in his pants.

Did Dreyfuss’s son expose Spacey after his father was exposed for exposing?

Spacey grabbed my dick like 8 times

The first time I wasn't sure what he did

The second time I thought it was a mistake

The third time I waited to see what would happen next

The fourth time I was pretty sure it wasn't a mistake

The fifth time I think he was reaching for his drink

The sixth time I tripped and my penis fell into his hand

The seventh time I was ignoring the waiter who asked for my ID

The eighth time I was sure Spacey is gay

Had Dreyfuss been accused first, I doubt we would have heard anything from harry.

Accuser epitomizes #MeToo fuckery.

[quote] No, Spacey didn’t jack him off, but the account is just as harrowing.

Touching a thigh a couple of times and allegedly grabbing his junk is the same as jacking him off in front of his father? It's not, not even close. Sure Spacey clearly crossed many lines with his behavior but lying about what he did is starting to make all stories about him look suspect. Just like with this fake-hysterical Unruh woman it sounds like people equate what Spacey really did with what he could've done.

R103 see r98

I was assaulted in a hospital.

I was barely out of my mother's womb when the doctor slapped my bare bottom, then manhandled the junk between my legs, claiming he was just checking my gender.

The family signed up with attorney Mitchell Garabedian, who is famous for civil prosecutions against the Catholic Church for sexual abuse. He was by the mother's side when she held the press conference, which was before any criminal complaint was filed.

I loved how the mother cried that the male homosexual possibly thought her all American boy might also be male homosexual!

Oh, and the eventual 💰!

[quote] You don't get money by filing criminal charges

Of course you do. That's what you use to form the basis for your civil case. Saves money cause the case has been proven if there's a conviction and you don't have to spend money proving that aspect of your case.

If the case falls through with Spacey, will she claims that her son was also molested by a high profile Catholic Priest?

Spacey during his time on Nantucket apparently was well-known in the local watering holes.

And Heather Unruh is no longer an anchor. And from what I've heard of her, she's not a grifter type at all. The mistake she made was deleting "frat boy material" from her son's phone. I believe her and her son, and am surprised no other Masshole DLers aren't sticking up for them.

Even after all that, all the predatory Spacey stories we've heard over the years give this legitimacy, as far as I'm concerned. And trust there are worse Spacey incidents that occurred here that never made the news. Much worse

should read "no other Masshole DLers are sticking up for them"

How much is getting your dick grabbed worth?

$1-2 million? $500k? $100k? $5k?

R114 nice try. The fact is, if some makes and unwelcome advance on you at a bar, you SHUT the perve down. It does not continue to 8 gropes.

if someONE makes an unwelcome

Mr. Will Little, Ms. Unruh’s spawn

He doesn't look like a shrinking violet to me.

R117 I wasn't trying anything, just stating my opinion. The DL seems to be crawling with Spacey defenders, of which I am not one

[quote] I was ALWAYS calling my mom when a perve perved on me. Cause that's what one does when one is a big grown up man at a bar

you probably still call your mom to get you out of trouble

R116 - Probably around $100K. Remember, this is a grope - not a rape or child molestation. But because Spacey's a celebrity, you know Garabedian is going to milk it for everything he can.

Garabedian's catholic priest victims averaged $150K for child molestation.

[quote]You don't get money by filing criminal charges Yes you do. Its called restitution. Its included with almost every criminal sentence.

Also worth noting that the texts were from screenshots, not the actual texts. This is one of the reasons why the actual phone was subpoenaed. But of course, the phone has now gone missing.

I can not see where Kevin did anything wrong...if Kevin was allowed to grab him 8 times, it was because the kid liked being grabbed, isn't that obvious?

R125 Thanks Mr Trump. You can do anything if the kid doesn't make a scene in public and his mother doesn't find out, right? I bet you were "appalled" when the Trump audio about grabbing pussies came out, but La Spacey is Hollywood royalty, he can do what he wants.

Whooa! The phone is missing? Hmm. So those texters can't be properly cross examined. Well then their testimony can't come in at trial. That's the sanction I'd demand.

R126 So, Spacey deserves to be President of the United States, not in court?

[quote]  I believe her and her son, and am surprised no other Masshole DLers aren't sticking up for them.

You sound like a woman who thinks college aged men are little babies totally incapable of shutting down unwelcome advances. You actually sound like that Unruh cunt who's using homophobia to get publicity and money. That's why she's not getting support here.

[quote] And trust there are worse Spacey incidents that occurred here that never made the news. Much worse

You haven't said one thing to make you trustworthy. Why the hell would we believe your claims of there being "much worse incidents"? No one thinks Spacey is a saint but Unruh and her spawn are making it seem he's under an attack by a horde of grifters.

r30 is a FUCKIN FRAU

[quote]But of course, the phone has now gone missing.

Can’t they subpoena the phone company’s records? Or do they not keep actual verbiage in texts as opposed to just showing that a text was sent?

Sorry if it’s a dumb question.

R129 Kevin is back on the DL!!!

I haven't seen this discussed, but one of the texts he sent his girlfriend during this said, "I'm not gay, but I think Kevin Spacey is."

Now, why in holy hell would you text your girlfriend that you aren't gay? I mean, if you need to tell her that...

Hi girlfriend!!! (In Matt Damon’s voice)

Girlfriend might mean 1st Hag!

Spacey was a regular patron at this establishment where the kid work. And he chooses to go sit right next to Spacey during his off hours? And he had no idea Spacey was gay? He and his momma were looking for an easy pay day, were willing to settle fore a quick, quiet monetary settlement, and they'd keep it out of the public eye. What they did not count on was that Spacey wasn't going to cave in to their blackmail. Everyone on the planet knew that Spacey was gay. The only ones who are looking like fools are the mother and son. They're frauds, and they deserved to be exposed. If anyone should sue, it should be Spacey.

Spacey 2020

I'd vote for Spacey any day over Donald's Rump.

The Spacey defenders are oblivious to the fact that the more portray the family as opportunists and grifters, the dumber and more criminally compulsive Spacey looks. He really thought he was going to get him some barely legal ass that night.

You don't know what was in Spacey head. Maybe copping the feels was his goal. Maybe fucking a twink. Who knows? If the twink was 18 why are we even hearing about this?

Trump violently raped a 13yr old. I don’t give a fuck about Spacey grabbing a 18yr old Vienna sausage

You don't give a fuck but here you are. Oldest troll post on the Internet.

[quote] Can’t they subpoena the phone company’s records? Or do they not keep actual verbiage in texts as opposed to just showing that a text was sent?

Exactly. They need the phone to extract certain data. Phone records only give you so much.

I read a few dozen reader comments at TMZ and quite frankly I was surprised how many people were saying the Unruh boy was clearly only after a payday. Most were thinking any man who let's a man grope him 8 times is either gay himself or is after something. Sure many comments were homophobic, like you'd expect at TMZ, but mommy Unruh must be fuming even those guys see through her money making scheme.

R 102 Totally!

Why couldn’t someone like Kevin just pay for a fuck ?

That's not a sexual harasser's style, r145.

Harassing is simply a means to an end

What Spacey did with Dreyfuss is gross and not cool. But not criminal. Nor is what he did with Helen Ruh-Roh's kid.

If there are more serious allegations, I'm open to hearing them. But this, while showing he's a cad, is nothing criminal.

What absolute proof do we have that there was even one grab, let alone an additional seven?

Do we have proof that the alleged victim can even count to eight?

R149 This and the Dreyfuss incident make me doubt the seriousness of the other allegations. It's obvious that a lot of people don't like Spacey, but the general public doesn't care because that's the type of role he's most famous for playing.

Dreyfuss would have knocked his head off if it was his daughter.

Shaking down gay people by threatening exposure is the oldest trick in the book!

His career is over no matter the outcome of the case.

^That’s a classic, successful shakedown!

Did the accuser get hard? If he did , the case is lost.

[quote]Probably around $100K. Remember, this is a grope - not a rape or child molestation. But because Spacey's a celebrity

Kevin knew this. He knew the consequences because he has a history of doing this and he still continued to do it

But of course it's not his fault. It's the fault of the people he abused

The innocent victim was the perpetrator of the crime. Chare him, and Mommy Dearest, and the "girlfriend" with entrapment.

R156, you call groping a willing partner in a bar abuse? And yes, Spacey is a predator who liked going after young men, but then again practically everyone who goes after someone they like without asking for consent in every turn can be seen as one. It's a power play and many people love it. Obviously Spacey has pushed things too far but has he ever truly gone too far and hasn't stopped when told no? No means a true no and not half-hearted noes that lead to 8 gropes which really sound like yes, do go on.

I have a feeling women and blushing virgins in this thread don't realize how normal physical contact can be for complete strangers in gay bars and certain gay spaces. Groping is seen as totally normal and not creepy if both parties are willing. Obviously Spacey didn't grope the Unruh kid in a gay bar but then again the kid seemed to love the attention.

well, well, WELL!!!

Amazing. They've filed a civil suit, which completely sinks the criminal case.

Again, I'm not fan of abusers, but that is simply not the case here. I seriously hope the kid (who I don't really blame) and his wackjob mother (who I do blame) get 0.0 money.

I remember trying to grab a dick in a bar and finding nothing. That was an odd experience, I still wonder...

[quote]Groping is seen as totally normal and not creepy if both parties are willing.

FFS, not all gay men are gropers. You're as annoying as the fraus you whine about with that shit.

Since the dawn of time, someone made the first move, first!

[quote] FFS, not all gay men are gropers. You're as annoying as the fraus you whine about with that shit.

You apparently don't get that we're talking about a situation where both parties seemed to have liked the groping.

R163 Yes, Kevin made the first move and the guy liked it. I doubt it started with groping. Like most things, it started with casual conversation, invitation for drinks, hand on the shoulder, etc. At any point, the alleged victim could have left or said no. In any case, due to the civil case, this matter is moot anyway.

I wonder what will happen to Spacey's career now that he isn't likely to be charged with any crime.

[quote]I wonder what will happen to Spacey's career now that he isn't likely to be charged with any crime.

His career will stay the same - dead. Because this particular case doesn't cancel out Rapp's and others' accusations.

R165, it was the Rapp thing that turned people against Spacey. I personally don't mind pushy men who know the limits but trying to have sex with a 14 year old is something totally different.

^ he just wanted to be a Supreme Court Justice, but realized he couldn’t go through with all the training.

What Kevin Spacey did was down right wrong, disgusting, and immoral. The kid may be closeted and felt utterly compelled to let Spacey fondle him to avoid further embarrassment. If this was Mel Gibson doing this to some unsuspecting 17 year old girl, there would be more of an uproar. Shame on Spacey and the hollywood machine that enabled this molester.

R169, I read your post like you were talking about Rapp but then I realized you probably meant the Unruh boy.

[quote] The kid may be closeted and felt utterly compelled to let Spacey fondle him to avoid further embarrassment.

What? You'd have to be a total doormat to let someone fondle you and not stop him or just plainly walk away.

From a TMZ article:

"Spacey's lawyers say the alleged victim told cops he was the one who approached Spacey in the bar, eventually exchanging phone numbers with the actor. They also claim he lied about his age, saying he was 23.

"The lawyers disclosed Unruh told cops he drank between 8 and 10 drinks -- beer and whiskey -- in a little over an hour and was so drunk he may have blacked out.

"Unruh allegedly told investigators Spacey groped him for around 3 minutes, claiming he didn't move away from Spacey or tell him to stop. Attorney Alan Jackson told the judge, "That's an incredibly long time to have a strange man's hands in your pants, correct?" The alleged victim told cops he couldn't easily move away because the bar was packed."

[quote]Attorney Alan Jackson

I wonder if this guy is from way down yonder on the Chatahoochie.

Fuck this little cunt. He should have been honored Kevin Spacey wanted to touch him. Kevin is an acting LEGEND and this little bitch is just a little punk. Kevin will get over this and continue to show his gifts, after a short period of downtime.

The discussions here might be more useful if they were accurate. Spacey is being prosecuted under Massachusetts law, not a poster's opinion.

R14 "Hitting on young twinks ain’t illegal unless they're underage" Oh yes it is.

R54 "If grabbing dicks w/o permission in a bar is now considered deviant, prosecutable, criminal behavior..." It's not "now" considered deviant, prosecutable, criminal behavior. It long has been.

[bold]Massachusetts General Laws: Chapter 265, Section 13 et seq. 1:[/bold] Indecent Assault and Battery on a Person Over 14. An indecent assault and battery is a touching that is “fundamentally offensive to contemporary moral values” including the touching of the breasts, buttocks and genitals. Maximum penalty is 5 years state prison or 2 ½ years house of corrections.

[bold]Are there Different Types of Sexual Assault in Massachusetts?[/bold]

Yes, there are two categories of sexual assault – indecent assault and battery, and aggravated sexual assault. If any harm comes to the victims as a result of the indecent assault, it can be elevated to an aggravated indecent assault crime. Essentially, if any medical attention is required due to injuries sustained during a sexual assault, it becomes a case of aggravated sexual assault. With this will come much harsher punishments including longer prison sentences. Regardless, both crimes are forms of sexual assault involve sexual contact that is manipulated, forced, or coerced.

Sexual assault will land the offender in prison and likely on the Massachusetts Sex Offender Registry Board.

This is total BS - the little opportunist has filed a civil suit. If you are being groped and don't like it - LEAVE. It's that simple.

[quote]Kevin will get over this and continue to show his gifts, after a short period of downtime.

LOL

I don't blame the kid. It's obvious the kid was having a good time with it, until his insane, psycho mom found out about it. I'm sure she shamed him into "realizing" what a terrible experience it was.

I honestly have no love for Spacey, but fuck that scumbag mom.

All falling apart in court. Wish Spacey would sue the bitch mom for all the gigs he lost due to this shit. Lynch mob mentality and if you're happy about it, you have a big problem too. Gay Celebrity Panic.

[quote] I don't blame the kid.

I do since he apparently loves the word fa g got. I saw him as a possible closet case before but judging by the text messages his cunt of a mother had deleted he loves to be a homophobe with his friends. It seems the whole thing was a setup from the moment he laid eyes on Spacey in the bar.

I don't care what happens to Spacey.

Please lock him up.

Now the criminal case could be dismissed because the kid and his psycho mother deleted some stuff from his iphone and lied about it in a pretrial hearing today.

Spacey’s gonna get off scot-free. No civil case and now no criminal case either.

I still don't really get the Anthony Rapp incident. I don't remember hearing Spacey ever being into underage teens, but then suddenly there's Rapp. Someone here claimed Rapp was the one who sneaked into Spacey's bed and lied about the whole thing but obviously that could be total bs. The thing is I don't really care if Spacey gets a bit grabby with adult men who are more than capable to say no, and really it seems Spacey has never really forced himself on anyone (or has he?), but it does bother me if he tried to have sex with a 14 year old. I googled a bit and only now remembered Spacey claiming he doesn't remember the Rapp incident but apologizes if he did something while drunk. That doesn't really sound like a denial.

Did he get a stiffy when groper felt his cock? That would be gay as Spacey must look like a space time distortion of fucked up facework

[quote][bold]Someone here claimed Rapp was the one who sneaked into Spacey's bed[/bold] and lied about the whole thing but obviously that could be total bs.

Are you listening to yourself idiot ???

R181, you are sounding like those priests that blame the "predatory" kids for enticing them.

R183, my my, someone's being very self-righteous. It is possible that Rapp lied about what really happened. To my knowledge they didn't have sex. I hope you're not seriously saying all claims about sexual misconduct should be believed without any questions? I've never heard any rumors about Spacey liking underage boys which is why the Rapp incident sounds so peculiar. Especially because Rapp emphasized he looked much younger than 14 at the time which would make Spacey practically a pedo.

Kevin, it's not going to work babe.

No matter how much you repeat it. DL has always known about Kevin's creepy ways.

[quote]Unruh testified that "I deleted a few things," but she did not say exactly what. There was "no intent on my part," she said.

Lying bitch. Dropping the civil suit is a big red flag, bc that is how she was trying to cash in. The "victim" is now pleading the fifth amendment, as victims do.

R104 wins

R181 According to this article, Spacey tried to force himself on this underage teen boy, after having repeatedly engaged in conduct with him that would be statutory rape:

When I think of “Frat Boy Stuff”, I will always think of the Duke boys. Shoving brooms & bats (up there) to a raucous cheering crowd!

Except, R189, it didn’t quite happen that way...

^ No, that’s what all sides admitted to, that was part of the show! What they wouldn’t admit to was rape!

Kevin if you’re reading this, you are welcome to sexually assault me, grab me, whisper inappropriate desires in my ear, and even rape me. I’m 47 years old with a beer belly, but I’m all yours 😘

You're 33 years too late, r192.

R192, ewwwww.

Wasn't Scotland Yard questioning him this week? How did THAT go?

I admittedly haven't read all the details of the case, but just a few thoughts. I think it's good for the guy to come forward, just as Terry Crews did, and sue. Kevin's had a reputation for a long time now for behaving this way - where there's smoke, there's fire. Who's to say he hasn't done much worse to other young men who haven't come forward yet? The guy was only 18, if things escalated and it turned into a physical altercation, Kevin's team could have easily sued him for assault instead. I'm 100% gay, and I would never think that it was no big deal to just go around and grabbing straight guys by the crotch whenever I felt like it. I don't think it's even fair game at gay bars. When I was in my early 20's there were plenty of times where obnoxious older gay men would do shit like that to me persistently to the point where no matter how many times I told them to knock it off, I was very near to the point of instead knocking them out, to make the message clear.

R196 In my distant youth when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I kneed someone who tried that on me in a bar. The first time he tried it. Some shit just doesn't merit giving people a second chance to try it again.

We didn't do "assault" charges when we were assaulted in those days, nor did we let people groping us buy us drinks but rather managed these things ourselves. What's wrong with kids today?

I was pretty much the slut of all time (in a prissy shop bottom kind of way), and I don't think a man has ever groped me in a bar.

One exposed himself to me, though. An Irishman. It was impressive, and sealed the deal.

R139 asks "You don't know what was in Spacey head. Maybe copping the feels was his goal. Maybe fucking a twink. Who knows? If the twink was 18 why are we even hearing about this?"

Because it's against the law in Massachusetts, perhaps? There's no upper age limit above which it's OK.

[quote]r199 Because it's against the law in Massachusetts, perhaps? There's no upper age limit above which it's OK.

Re: the man who exposed himself to me in a bar 20 years ago; can I sue him for that, even if I subsequently blew him?

IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE!

Please don’t sue me, r200. I’ve got nothing.

I mean HE, he probably has nothing.

Prosecutors have dropped the charges. Lol

Spacey is a free man!

lmao that payday didn't quite work out did it? should have kept you job dumb bitch. i wish spacey could sue you for lawyer fees.

Can you even imagine the deleted “Frat Boy Stuff”that they tried to hide from the Defense! It must have been a trove of pure filth!

No surprise the case was dropped. It was weaksauce from the start.

Spacey's still a slimy old perv, though.

kid looks like a big dumb jock.

In court wearing matching mommy & me outfits.

Nothing Shaking on Shakedown Street!

For anyone wondering about definitions, in the pic at r207 the mother is the epitome of frau with a frauing frau smile.

"Me and my HETEROSEXUAL son."

Dayam!!!!! That kid is a HOTTIE! I can see why Kevin wanted that thick white dick. Yum yum

Dayam!!!!! That kid is a HOTTIE! I can see why Kevin wanted that thick white dick. Yum yum

I don't think the kid wanted anything to do with this. His mother accused Spacey of assaulting her son on Twitter and it snowballed. I think he only went along with it because his mother forced him.

Oh, and that kid is most definitely gay. Spacey groped him for 3 minutes??? Come on.

I don't think the kid wanted anything to do with this. His mother accused Spacey of assaulting her son on Twitter and it snowballed. I think he only went along with it because his mother forced him.

Oh, and that kid is most definitely gay. Spacey groped him for 3 minutes??? Come on.

That kid and the mother seem creepily close.

It was a shake down from the word go. Why would the mother have deleted key evidence off the guy's phone otherwise? They were obviously hoping for an out of court settlement.

The kid could make a KILLING in gay porn. People would buy and watch just to see the kid Spacey felt up.

[quote]Spacey groped him for 3 minutes??? Come on.

And 8 times! 8 fucking times!

You can only dry crank that thang so many times before there’s a surprise ending!

We all know there was an out-of-court settlement to make this go away.

Money talks. Again.

^ Yeah, it was “we won’t splash pictures around the world of your son running a frat “slave auction” or something similarly heinous, if you get the fuck off the island and never come back!!!!”

R221, in this case there probably wasn't any settlement arranged behind the scenes. The Unruhs didn't play their cards right and messed up the whole thing. The deleted photos would've apparently made the kid look bad, not Spacey. I mean seriously, Unruh was being "abused" in a crowded bar in a situation he could've walked away from any time he wanted, and he apparently kept texting his girlfriend throughout the ordeal. Their chance of winning the case was slim from the start, especially when it became apparent the Unruhs had destroyed evidence, and Spacey's law team knew it, so why pay them anything?

Imagine that the Frat Boy Stuff was so bad that they couldn’t risk playing it straight. And they had to collapse the entire shakedown over it!

I imagine Kevin had to pay a pretty penny in order for this to go away.

Anthony Rapp is a piece of shit drama queen. There is no way there was any damage done to him in that incident, and no way to know what was in Spacey's mind.

A decent person, if he felt this burning need to unburden himself, would've met with Spacey and confronted him man to man. Cavilerly going public and ruining another person's career over that is so shitty.

[quote] Anthony Rapp is a piece of shit drama queen. There is no way there was any damage done to him in that incident, and no way to know what was in Spacey's mind. A decent person,

You wouldn't know decency if it came and fucked you in the asshole. Rapp was a kid you little twisted fuck.

[quote]R225 I imagine Kevin had to pay a pretty penny in order for this to go away.

You KNOW it!

The civil suit was dismissed, with prejudice, meaning it cannot be filed again, shortly before the last court hearing after which the judge dismissed the charges against Spacey.

I have to wonder, whether knowing about the issues with the accuser’s credibility in advance or not, if Spacey’s people paid them off before the court case continued. If any of you saw the father’s response to Spacey’s lawyers, you might wonder why it looked like he was trying to be cited by the judge for contempt. Because he knew the legal case wasn’t going well or because they’d already been paid and didn’t care at that point? Or perhaps had agreed - in return for cash and prizes - to roll over in court?

[quote]Cavilerly going public

They did what now?

Does Spacey still have other cases or charges pending against him, or was this it?

R231 - The London investigations are continuing (Spacey was interviewed by Scotland Yard in May) and a federal civil suit by a masseuse in LA is ongoing. The masseuse also filed a criminal complaint but the LA DA has not made a decision to prosecute. In other words, the LA DA is waiting for the conclusion of the civil trial to see if there's any evidence of an illegal act because they don't have anything. We should have a decision by the end of the year with the London stuff. I will say that the dismissal of the Nantucket case was probably a huge blow to the LA civil case. And Spacey has actually picked some really good lawyers.

R225, R228 & 229 - Spacey paid nothing. He didn't need to. This case was crapola from the beginning. R223 has it correct. The Unruhs thought that Spacey would settle the suit and/or plead guilty. They never thought that he'd hire a former prosecutor to fight the case.

R226 - Don't blame Anthony Rapp for Spacey's behavior. He's been out of control for a long time and it came back to bite him. Rapp isn't a drama queen, but I did notice that he tried to play the victim card for a minute & that was annoying. He's a decent actor but just like every other #metoo accuser, you were given a platform to share you story, but the news cycle moves on and no one cares anymore.

#metoo is bullshit. I’m glad it’s being cancelled.

[quote]federal civil suit by a masseuse in LA is ongoing.

So he’s sexually harassing women, too?

[quote]The civil suit was dismissed, with prejudice, meaning it cannot be filed again

You can bet that judge was BOUGHT and PAID FOR.

There isn't a dirty cover up in this entire business that [italic]I [/italic]don't know about, and SPACEY’S hand is in EVERY ONE of them... he REEKS OF IT!

[quote]#metoo is bullshit. I’m glad it’s being cancelled.

Poor Leslie Moonves and Harvey Weinstein. They were innocent victims according to R233.

What's next? Bryan Singer to babysit your little brother? Pathetic!

[quote] They were innocent victims according to...

I notice you've been peddling this nonsense in other threads. No one is saying that those men were innocent. You're neither clever or funny.

Is R235 a parody post of some kind?

Anyway, I'm glad that the grifters lost. Spacey's a sex pig, there's no denying it. Still no reason to be set up and falsely accused by hysterical grifters.

I think I'll make Steak Diane for Sunday dinner...

When Spacey realeased that video a few months ago, I thought he was crazy for doing it, and that the video itself was nuts. After all these developments, watching it now think it's pretty great.