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US and Israel fabricating lies to provoke war with Iran: Ex-CIA officer

A former American counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA says some elements in the Donald Trump administration in collaboration with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are fabricating lies in order to provoke a war with Iran.

“The United States is moving dangerously forward in what appears to be a deliberate attempt to provoke a war with Iran, apparently based on threat intelligence provided by Israel,” Philip Giraldi wrote in article published on Friday.

“The claims made by National Security Advisor John Bolton and by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that there is solid evidence of Iran’s intention to attack US forces in the Persian Gulf region is almost certainly a fabrication, possibly deliberately contrived by Bolton and company in collaboration with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,” he stated, Presstv Reported.

“It will be used to justify sending bombers and additional naval air resources to confront any possible moves by Tehran to maintain its oil exports, which were blocked by Washington last week. If the US Navy tries to board ships carrying Iranian oil it will undoubtedly, and justifiably, provoke a violent response from Iran, which is precisely what Bolton, Pompeo and Netanyahu are seeking,” he noted.

“It would be difficult to find in the history books another example of a war fought for no reason whatsoever. As ignorant as President Donald Trump and his triumvirate or psychotics Bolton, Pompeo and Elliott Abrams are, even they surely know that Iran poses no threat to the United States,” he continued.

The analyst wrote that the “influence of Israel over US foreign policy is undeniable, with Washington now declaring that it will ‘review ties’ with other nations that are considered to be unfriendly to” Israel.

In an interview with Press TV on Thursday, Scott Bennett, a former US military psychological warfare officer and political commentator, America’s CIA and Israel’s Mossad are conflating and distorting intelligence to push the United States into a military conflict with Iran.

On Wednesday, American Muslim Representative Ilhan Omar accused the Trump administration of preparing the ground for direct confrontation with Iran using inflated intelligence data.

She said that the US intelligence community was making up excuses to justify hostile anti-Iran policies just as it did before the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

On Sunday, US National Security Adviser John Bolton announced the deployment of an American carrier strike group to the Middle East, citing a "credible threat" from Iran.

The US Air Force acknowledged Friday that B-52 bombers ordered by the White House to deploy to the Persian Gulf to counter unspecified threats from Iran have arrived at a major American air base in Qatar.

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by Anonymousreply 62June 20, 2019 9:43 PM

Madman at the helm of the country.

by Anonymousreply 1June 19, 2019 5:59 PM

Looking him up he has a thing about jews.

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by Anonymousreply 2June 19, 2019 6:01 PM

You put a retarded puppy that just ate a bag of crystal in charge replete with a court of end-times Christian Nihilists, this is what you get.

Iran I have some major beefs with, and if a regime change would mean the end of the extermination of my brethren I could probably even be down for another Republican foray into regime change. But that could never happen as we will never ever be accepted as equals in their perverse worldview no matter what, so that means that I truly have no dog in this fight aside from the fact that I have a nephew who is a Marine and I don't want to see him in harm's way.

by Anonymousreply 3June 19, 2019 6:11 PM

Yes, anyone who tells the truth about the Middle East and the Israel Lobby is not describing material reality but instead has a thing about Jews, right, R2?

by Anonymousreply 4June 19, 2019 6:12 PM

Go back to /pol/, r4.

by Anonymousreply 5June 19, 2019 6:20 PM

The percentage of Jewish people of the total US population is 2.2%, according to The Jewish Virtual Library.

by Anonymousreply 6June 19, 2019 6:29 PM

How much money has Israel's supporters given to the GOP?

We know that Sheldon Adelson has given at least $25 million. That's why Trump moved the American Embassy to Jerusalem and why Sheldon Adelson's wife got a Medal of Freedom.

by Anonymousreply 7June 19, 2019 7:11 PM

Oh goody--more American kids will die because Israel wants another war in the Middle East

by Anonymousreply 8June 19, 2019 7:12 PM

Who cares what Ilan Omar says. She would always defend Iran's terrorists sponsoring government.

Not that I like Netanyahu, but saying Israel is the driver of war in the Middle East is preposterous.

by Anonymousreply 9June 19, 2019 7:55 PM

Conflating the actions of Zionists with all Jews is unfair to the many, many Jews who are disgusted by Zionists' actions.

But who conflates the most? The same people who scream, "Anti-Semite" at any criticism of Israel.

by Anonymousreply 10June 19, 2019 9:11 PM

R10, nice try trying pushing your Islamist agenda that Israel needs to be destroyed and all Jews to be shoved into the Mediterranean ocean.

Put a sock in it, the Ottomans lost, get over it.

by Anonymousreply 11June 19, 2019 9:20 PM

Stop, R11. A cursory glance at the history of Israel's usage of the US military/US tax dollars to threaten, bomb, massacre, invade its neighbors and other regional "threats" like Iraq would reveal that you're regurgitating a tired lie.

If you want Jews to survive, disassociate all Jews from the actions of Israel, because, again, many Jews are not onboard with Zionism.

by Anonymousreply 12June 19, 2019 9:39 PM

It won't be easy peachy this time around, neo-con bitches!!!

[quote]Russia, China warn US over sending 1,000 new troops to the Gulf

[quote]Deployment of 1,000 troops to Middle East shows US on 'a conscious course to provoke war' with Iran, Moscow says.

"We call on all parties to remain rational and restrained, not to take any actions to provoke the escalation of tension in the region, and not to open a Pandora's box," Foreign Minister Wang Yi told reporters in Beijing.

[bold]"In particular, the United States should change its practice of extreme pressure," he said.[/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 13June 19, 2019 9:42 PM

R12 Complete horseshit. Most Jews are for the right of Israel to exist. If that is Zionism then that is what they support.

by Anonymousreply 14June 19, 2019 9:45 PM

Iran won't win. Neither will they ever have a nuclear weapon. It's as simple as that.

by Anonymousreply 15June 19, 2019 9:48 PM

R12 thinks Jews will live safely surrounded by countries with people who gleefully celebrate the death of Jewish children.

Dictatorship shitholes like Russia and China supporting Iran of course makes them totally innocent, right!

by Anonymousreply 16June 19, 2019 10:11 PM

So the world has to go to war for Israel, R16?

All 7. whatever billion of us have to kill each other so that Zion can exist?

by Anonymousreply 17June 19, 2019 10:23 PM

Trump will not go to war with Iran, because he is weak and indecisive. Iran, however, will become a nuclear power. That will be Trump's lasting contribution to the Middle East.

by Anonymousreply 18June 19, 2019 10:24 PM

R16 who talked about being innocent here? Don't be so old, demented and obtuse all at once. It's about Iran's backup ally. It isn't so isolated like Iraq in 2003.

And whatcha gonna do about this, bitch Trump? whatcha gonna do? You keep threatening people too often, but when the time comes for you to go for the kill and and you can't finish it off --- you're a wuss, bitch Trump!!!

China turns to Iran for LPG, ignoring sanctions

Ship-tracking data reveals Chinese buyers may be using a range of techniques to hide origin of the fuel

Ship-tracking data appears to show that some Chinese buyers are continuing to use Iran as a source of liquefied petroleum gas, despite being hit by the trade war and US sanctions on the Persian Gulf nation.

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by Anonymousreply 19June 19, 2019 10:31 PM

So it's another "slam dunk" evidence lies to provoke war with Iran? The triad of evils: Pompeo, Bolton and Trump.

by Anonymousreply 20June 19, 2019 10:36 PM

[quote]So the world has to go to war for Israel,

No, but if Iran doesn't stop sponsoring terrorism that threatens Israel and destabilizes the middle East, then it has to face consequences.

I am not saying a war against Iran is the way to go or that we need to side with Israel (or the Saudis) at any cost, but I am against making it look like Iran is the victim here.

by Anonymousreply 21June 19, 2019 10:41 PM

I have absolutely no fucking idea what's going to happen with Trumpy in charge, but so far I can't stop laughing at R9's last statement- LOLOLOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 22June 19, 2019 10:55 PM

OMG, who destabilized the Middle East, R21?

Could it possibly be US, the US?!? You know, the country that led the coalition that bombed the fuck out of Iraq?!? Which led to Iran having a much larger influence in the region.

Or Israel, which routinely raids/occupies Lebanon, the Gaza Strip, bombs Syria with aplomb, and gets the US to supply and pay for its advanced weaponry, like the Apache helicopters it uses on the sitting ducks in the Gaza Strip?

And controlled the Congress of the US so completely that Olmert told Pelosi and Levin to go attack Iran.

If we attack Iran it will be for Israel. Iran hasn't started a war in hundreds of years, it cooperated with its nuclear agreement, unlike Israel which won't even sign, and it knows that if it steps out of line the full force of UsRael will pulverize it.

by Anonymousreply 23June 19, 2019 10:56 PM

Saudi pigs killed more Jews in 9/11. Go get them, Bibi!!!

In sworn statements after 9/11, former Taliban intelligence chief Mohammed Khaksar said that in 1998 Prince Turki, chief of Saudi Arabia’s General Intelligence Department (G.I.D.), sealed a deal under which bin Laden agreed not to attack Saudi targets. In return, Saudi Arabia would provide funds and material assistance to the Taliban, not demand bin Laden’s extradition, and not bring pressure to close down al-Qaeda training camps. Saudi businesses, meanwhile, would ensure that money also flowed directly to bin Laden

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by Anonymousreply 24June 19, 2019 11:03 PM

R23 I agree. However you have countries like Turkey still illegally occupying Northern Cyrus since 74 and God knows whose side Erdogan is on from day to day. Oh Turkey's war against the Kurds is ungodly as well. Not to mention that pseudo-coup in Turkey a few years ago. In essence, it is an obsession with Jews and Israel that informs this debate. Because I never hear of Turkey's evil misdeeds on The DL or other places. Always Israel though.......

by Anonymousreply 25June 19, 2019 11:27 PM

I believe it was Americans who attacked those oil freighters. The crews on the 2 vessels said it was not Iranians. Trump and his criminal gang rounded up some band of mercenaries (Blackwater types) to do the attack just so they could blame it on Iran.

by Anonymousreply 26June 19, 2019 11:33 PM

R25 How many billions in aid is the US funneling into Turkey? That might be your answer, but you knew that.

by Anonymousreply 27June 19, 2019 11:36 PM

Turkey and its fan club does not control the US Congress, R25, that's why.

On the first day of the second US-led invasion of Iraq, Arutz Sheva, Israel National News, crowed, "This War Is For Us!'

The Israeli papers tend to be more forthright than the US papers, maybe because it's harder to refer to Israeli journalists as "anti-Semites" if they report what's really happening.

by Anonymousreply 28June 19, 2019 11:36 PM

[quote]Could it possibly be US, the US?!? You know, the country that led the coalition that bombed the fuck out of Iraq?!?

Dear R23, have a dose of reality.

I wasn't in favor of the Iraq war, but the fact is that Iraq under Hussein was invading countries, including Iran for years. Iraq under Hussein was a military dictatorship with no legitimate elections and women weren't allowed to vote.

Iraq in 2019 is a democratic, federal parliamentary republic. and has executive, legislative, and judicial branches, and a constitution.

You can justifiably argue whether the grave humanitarian consequences of the Iraq war were worth it, but the reality is that Russia, China or Iran wouldn't have steered Iraq on the path to democracy.

Iran needs to stop siding with Russia and it needs to stop destabilizing the Middle East.

by Anonymousreply 29June 19, 2019 11:43 PM

[quote]How many billions in aid is the US funneling into Turkey?

And Turkey is forced to buy American weapons, warplanes and whatnot in return. Isn't it kinda perverted to call it AID money?

by Anonymousreply 30June 19, 2019 11:44 PM

R27 Wrong. Turkey is a lapdog of the US and has been bought much more cheaply than Israel has. The pro-Israel contingent in The US always puts a spotlight on Israel.

R30 True. That was my first thought.

by Anonymousreply 31June 19, 2019 11:46 PM

[quote]But the fact is that Iraq under Hussein was invading countries, including Iran for years. Iraq under Hussein was a military dictatorship with no legitimate elections and women weren't allowed to vote.

Oh, dear. You must have exhausted all the shamelessness and ignorance in your system to spout that distorted view here. Are you also applying this shitty description to the Saudi, dear? Cos you sound so unstable and funny at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 32June 19, 2019 11:49 PM

facts are facts Vladimir @ R32, even if you deny them

Where did I ever side with the Saudis?

You got to be a bit smarter than that if you want to win this argument with me.

by Anonymousreply 33June 19, 2019 11:53 PM

Iran is attacking Japanese and Norwegian ships, not US ones. I thought Dumpkins said we would not be the world's policeman anymore.

by Anonymousreply 34June 19, 2019 11:56 PM

Who the fuck said you were siding with the Saudi? Are you also paranoid schizo, apart from being morbidly obese and obtuse? I was merely bringing up the similarities between Saudi and Iran.

What a dumb old fogy, and probably mentally unstable one too. Take your psyche meds with a glass of Roundup and go to bed, bitch. You're not making sense now.

by Anonymousreply 35June 20, 2019 12:00 AM

Keep on ranting R35 like a madman Vlad, only proves your lies and distortions and no real arguments to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 36June 20, 2019 12:07 AM

I really don't understand why neo-con Trumptards have to scream gobbledygook whenever I liken Saudi to Iran. Too terrified that people will see the similarities, bitches?

Exposing your own insanity and stupidity, old fat fart? It's when the fat pig is cornered and has nothing more to argue, and she will yell: RUSSIAN RUSSIAN. Sounds really stupid and schizo.

by Anonymousreply 37June 20, 2019 12:13 AM

LOL, please keep it going Vladimir @ R37 - hopefully at some point you'll keel over suffocating on your own piss and vomit!

by Anonymousreply 38June 20, 2019 12:16 AM

[quote] R18: Trump will not go to war with Iran, because he is weak and indecisive. Iran, however, will become a nuclear power. That will be Trump's lasting contribution to the Middle East.

And in response to Iran getting the bomb, Saudi Arabia will get the bomb. We’ll be lucky if we don’t see a nuclear war in the Mideast within the next 20 years, maybe much less.

by Anonymousreply 39June 20, 2019 1:49 AM

It's sickening that Americans are only just waking up to the chaos we've caused globally, and that's only because of all the sad shells of returning soldiers with severe traumatic brain injuries distributed across the country - Iraq and Afghanistan hurt average Americans, and it's them screaming NO that is the only thing that will stop an attack on Iran.

But the Neo-cons/Israel lobbies/ Military Industrial Complex don't care. They will manufacture a spectacular false flag attack in order to manufacture consent.

So don't fear, R39: Iran's not going to get the bomb because we, the UsRaelis, are going to bomb it into smithereens first.

by Anonymousreply 40June 20, 2019 1:54 AM

If the US continues to attack independent countries that we don’t like, such as Iran, it means that other countries will follow North Korea’s example and get the bomb as quickly as possible out of self preservation. And that just increases the likelihood that there will be nuclear conflict between countries - or by terrorists against the US or our allies.

We can thank Trump for screwing up the Iran nuke agreement. I think we’ll look back at that as one of the biggest bungles in American History.

by Anonymousreply 41June 20, 2019 1:55 AM

Oil! Opium! And now more oil!

by Anonymousreply 42June 20, 2019 2:25 AM

Leave Iran alone!

by Anonymousreply 43June 20, 2019 2:56 PM

And what about Israel's fifth largest arsenal of nuclear weapons? They should name their biggest bomb after the New York Times. And others after Elenor Roosevelt, Jane Fonda, and Chuck Schumer.

by Anonymousreply 44June 20, 2019 3:08 PM

Why not? This bunch is even crazier and more incompetent than the Bush clack. It's all incredibly disgusting and more or less disregarded or thought to be boring (can't be distilled to a one line Tweet) by almost all citizens below age 40. 70-80% of them could not be bothered beyond their social media threads, clothes, possessions, salaries, and personal lives. Many of them see no difference between Trump and any Democrat although they are essentially against everything that Trump is doing. But they don't care enough about climate change, health care access, human rights, infrastructure, public education, or even tariff wars to vote- they think it makes no difference. The complacency in the face of one for the greatest crises to ever face the USA is profoundly depressing.

by Anonymousreply 45June 20, 2019 3:18 PM

I guess the Zionists don't see it that way since it's Trump they enshrined by naming a settlement after him.

by Anonymousreply 46June 20, 2019 3:18 PM

Israel is only acting in self-defence.

by Anonymousreply 47June 20, 2019 4:03 PM

Israel and George Zimmerman

by Anonymousreply 48June 20, 2019 4:12 PM

r47, your spelling of "defence" indicates that you are English. You need to talk to Jeremy Corbin.

by Anonymousreply 49June 20, 2019 4:55 PM

Off topic: Is this the BBC belonging to Ms Lindsey that we always hear about? Wow she has good taste.

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by Anonymousreply 50June 20, 2019 5:02 PM

It certainly is off topic. Stick to the topic.

by Anonymousreply 51June 20, 2019 5:04 PM

People of both parties have been pushing for war in Iran for a long time. Israel is the #1 concern of everyone in congress.

by Anonymousreply 52June 20, 2019 5:12 PM

r50 Gorgeous but he works for Graham so he's basically an Uncle Tom. Boner killer.

by Anonymousreply 53June 20, 2019 5:32 PM

Bravo , r52. What the hell does Lindsey Graham's sexuality have to do with this?

by Anonymousreply 54June 20, 2019 6:24 PM

It's all part of the plan and it has been for years now. The entire Middle East is to be swallowed up by the new American Empire. Saudi Arabia, you in danguh girl!

by Anonymousreply 55June 20, 2019 7:43 PM

Oh R29, that was so beautiful, *Sniff* I'm simply ALL choked up. You expressed that so eloquently- the Iraqi people's quest for for Demoacracy and the Liberty and Renewed Freedoms we the American Military Industrial Complex have given to them, it simply sends CHILLS down my spine.

by Anonymousreply 56June 20, 2019 8:01 PM

You can argue all you want R56, Iraq is better off today than is was under Hussein.

ISIS is largely defeated and Putin wasn't able to wield his influence in Afghanistan and Iraq anymore. But yeah since you don't seem to care about the huge humanitarian crises that Russian arms cause in places like Syria, there isn't anything to talk about anyway, your argument is baseless.

by Anonymousreply 57June 20, 2019 8:35 PM

Yes, R57, death is the ultimate in freedom.

by Anonymousreply 58June 20, 2019 8:37 PM

^ More like counting his money made from war profiteering.....

by Anonymousreply 59June 20, 2019 8:38 PM

[quote] She would always defend Iran's terrorists sponsoring government.

Saudi Arabia is the sponsor of the Wahadi terrorism. 9/11 was done by Saudis

by Anonymousreply 60June 20, 2019 8:58 PM

[quote]^ More like counting his money made from war profiteering.....

More for ME!

- Vlad

by Anonymousreply 61June 20, 2019 9:12 PM

OMG, the world must be ending: I agree with Fucker Tarlson on not one, but two issues. Stop the Gender Warriors destroying gay/women/parents rights, and this.

[quote] While some Fox News hosts have argued that a conflict with Iran would be justified, Carlson has consistently criticized U.S. military intervention abroad, particularly in the Middle East. In recent weeks, he has questioned whether war with Iran would be “in anyone’s interest.” Last month, he publicly chided Bolton, saying he was intentionally escalating tensions, and that a potential conflict would “be like Christmas, Thanksgiving, his birthday wrapped into one.”

During a Monday night segment devoted to the recent attack on two oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, Carlson invoked the faulty intelligence leading up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Fox News host compared Pompeo’s “misplaced certainty” that Iran attacked the tankers to former Secretary of State Colin Powell’s now-discredited claim that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.

“We’re still paying a price for that,” Carlson said.

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