FOX News’ Greg Gutfeld: Trans Activists are Transitioning Children to ‘Eliminate’ Gay and Lesbian People — WATCH

I love the alt-rights disingenuous concern for women, homosexuals and immigrants when it serves to further their corrupt agenda. So transparently hypocritical and evil.

r1 welcome to politics

he's not wrong

It appears to be an article about trans athletes.

He’s not wrong. I don’t think it’s an active conspiracy, but I think some misguided and well intentioned parents are creating long term devastating effects for what could be short term issues.

When I was a gay little boy, I would dress up in girls clothes and say I was one. I am happy in my gender identity as an adult. I think it had more to do with subconsciously figuring out gender roles before I knew I was gay and what gay really was.

Of course there are children with legitimate gender dysphoria, and it is even to have them “pass” if they transition during puberty, but the risks are too high. There should be a law that hormones and surgery can only be done once the child is 18. If they can’t buy cigarettes, they shouldn’t have access to dangerous drugs that could destroy their body and health until they can make a rational decision of it on their own.

We lock children in cages and let them die because it's faster and more humane than letting them die from malnutrition as welfare recipients.

The "T" obsession was always about conservative trolls on DL. Some are likely gay and even out about it, but some are also closet cases, and many more (most?) are just straight-identifying right-wingers, Republicans, and alt-right operatives.

DO NOT FEED THE ANTI-TRANS TROLL

There should be a laws about the government interfering in people's medical decisions for themselves and their families unless they are likely to create a health risk to the public at large.

Wrong thread, R6. And what’s happening with the cages is despicable. But you’re forgetting to put the blame on the parents who knew all the risks of breaking international law and illegally invading a country and still did it. The offspring of criminals from Central America is not our responsibility

[quote] they shouldn’t have access to dangerous drugs that could destroy their body and health until they can make a rational decision of it on their own.

Any links to support your claims? Who says transitioning with hormones "destroys" bodies and health?

Look at the right-wing troll outing itself at R10! Block him and. watch the concern troll disappear too. These fucking loons cannot help putting themselves. It's like R6 laid the bait and R10 couldn't resist robotically mouthing his pre-programmed talking points.

Datalounge is a gay website, and therefore predominantly liberal. The people seeking asylum at the border are not criminals.

Many sane (albeit moderate gays like myself and my friends) oppose the Trans Lobby.

R10 You priveleged, unfeeling, ignorant prick. I hope someday an immigrant shoves a book of statutes up your rectum for perpetuating your fascist lies.

R13 Funny that you don't have a history to back that obviously mendacious claim up.

R12 all liberals aren't extremists, though, which you yourself seem to be . If R14 is you as well it proves my point that so-called Social Justice Warriors are always militant and think in black and white terms. In short, SJWs are not rational!

" The "T" obsession was always about conservative trolls on DL. "

No, bitch. Gays on the left, middle and right are tired of the trans army taking over nonprofits and encouraging preteens to chop up their bodies and take hormones.

OP, R12 etc, continue to self-delude by thinking anything anti-trans is an evil plot by rightwing trolls. Actually, this massive PR assault of trans-ocity is funded by a hideous deformed billionaire trans rhinoceros named 'Jennifer' Pritzker.

It’s spelled “privileged” R14. Sounds like someone needs to shove a dictionary up your ass.

And you are so concerned about the mutilated pretend you help them by carpet bombing an anonymous gay gossip site with your repetitive talking points. So helpful and courageous of you.

Sounds like R18's hormones are acting up.

I'm not the biggest trans ally, but one can see from the moon what the right's strategy here is.

I hope my fellow gay men don't bite the bait. Lesbians are hopeless - every now and then they collaborate with the far-right to ban porn or some stupid shit like that, but we... we have no common interests with Fox.

Greg Gutfeld is an Eddie Haskell douchebag.

What the fuck is a "moderate" gay? You only take the cock halfway down your throat? More like half-assed gay to me.

The Transgender Lobby is funded by corporations, some that will make billions off of transitioning mostly gay children. Trans activism is destroying gay rights and gay kids lives. And free speech, via the "misgendering" laws. And biology. And women's rights.

Trans activisms roots are Queer Theory, an off-shoot of Post-Modernism. Many of its founders are pedophilia or incest apologists - Rubin, Califa, Foucault, Butler.

The "Left" has been played by Big Pharma, and the conservatives know a wedge issue when they see one.

And bullshit that the criticism is coming entirely from the right. Radical feminists, who have been battling the Transgender Lobby since it emerged, are fucking Marxists.

You fucking children, who think that everyone must march in lockstep with the Far Left on every single fucking issue are the reason we are where we are today, with Donnie Dump as president and the GOP controlling almost everything in the federal government.

If and when you grow up, you will realize that sometimes people across the political spectrum have to set aside their differences in order to work together on an issue that is important to them and to the country.

Libertarians, Conservatives and Liberals all worked together to stop an attack on Iran in 2008.

Radical feminists, ordinary women, and men who actually care about women, are working with the Conservatives because they have no choice, the Left has swallowed the Kool Aid. When Independents tune into what the Transgender Lobby is actually pushing, the backlash begins.

Hi, Greg. How's your toxic treating you these days? Hope you just croak in front of camera soon, fugtard.

r15, do I have a history?

I'm a gay man who has been arguing against the more extreme elements of the trans ideology for several years now. The current conception of transgenderism isn't "live and let live," it's: 1) you must not only acknowledge a person's "preferred pronouns" but you must also acknowledge that Caitlyn Jenner truly IS a woman; 2) you must allow little kids to be injected with puberty blockers and hormones that send them on a one-way ticket to transitioning (close to 100% of kids who go on puberty blockers and hormones transition), rather than a cautioned wait-and-see approach (up to 90% of wait-and-see kids desist and grow up to be gay/lesbian); 3) you must allow men who don't take hormones nor have had their body (genitals) modified into women-only spaces, not just bathrooms, but also locker-rooms, rape/domestic abuse shelters, sporting events, etc.; 4) you must allow the re-writing of history, not just the history of Stonewall and gay rights, but also the history of women who dressed as men so that they could pursue traditionally male occupations that didn't open up to women until, in most cases, the mid-twentieth century; 5) you have to ignore basic biology and allow that to negatively affect the rights of both men AND women, gay AND str8, under the law.

I'm a homosexual male who supports same-sex marriage, opposes the death penalty, supports a woman's right to choose, believes we need an economy balanced between capitalism and some socialism, has never voted for a Republican and despises Trump. Some of us have learned to think for ourselves and not follow the more extreme elements of the left into a pit.

"Moderate" gay = willing to guard the camps and oversee the queer prisoners, if they can eke out some extra rations and a nicer wardrobe for the coming genocide.

r27 = not just willing, but eager to guard the gulags and reeducation camps of free thinkers.

Lupron, the puberty blocker given to "gender non-conforming" (read "gay") children was originally a prostrate cancer drug also used to castrate sex offenders.

Longterm studies of Lupron are not in, but in the short term studies have shown loss of bone density to the point of bones shattering in young people, lowering of IQ, HDL cholesterol, cardiovascular issues, depression. There are more than 20,000 adverse reactions reported to the FDA.

The February issue of CIRCULATION, the journal of the American Heart Association reports that a study of longterm effects of cross-sex hormones on transgenders increased the risk of heart attacks, blood clots and strokes by 4-5 times.

More on Lupron:

[quote] Yet doctors wrote 24,000 prescriptions for the medication in 2015, at an average cost of $8,300 for a 3-month long-acting prescription of the drug, according to IMS Health, a medical research firm. And the puberty-delaying drugs are expensive — $20,000 to $40,000 for two years of treatment, Eugster reported in The Journal of Pediatrics in 2015.

R26 You are a cookie-clearing mouthpiece for corrupt criminals who want you to divide, discourage and sow suspicion in people who are unified in their goal to remove every Republican from elected political office. End of story.

Yes the trans bigots strikes again. MAGA!!

R26- "you must allow" just what does that mean? Transgender people are not rewriting history by the way. Only when you put it through the lens of a few crazed people such as yourself who seems to be stuck on being an allower, whatever that is.

The rights of transgender people are human rights. They ask nothing more than the same rights all citizens of the US have. Your distortions are the product of a mind twisted by hate and probably fear.

r31, please, tell us, what rights do they not have?

Muriel, where ARE the FFs? We could certainly use some.

r30, I don't even know how to clear my cookies!

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that every transphobe has no posting history. Sell your lies to the deplorables. We're not buying here.

Would you force a Black man under the law to call a White man "Black?

That's what the "misgendering" laws in California and NYC are doing to women - forcing them to call men, "women."

Including, any man who decides at that moment to self ID as a woman, and the 90% of transgenders who keep their male genitalia (source National Center for Transgender Rights)

In NYC the fine for "misgendering" goes up to $250,000. In CA, the fine goes up to $1000 and A YEAR IN JAIL.

Imagine putting a Black man in jail for refusing to call a White man "Black."

But it's fine when to rip up the First Amendment when the cocks in frocks demand it, right?

Well, he's right.

"Transgender people are not rewriting history by the way."

BWA HA HA HA HA!!!

r36, regarding the NYC/CA "misgendering" laws -- I can't imagine the Supreme Court will allow this, it's such a blatant attack on the First Amendment.

R1’s post should’ve ended this thread.

Susan B Anthony famously said, (paraphrasing

)" No woman should support a political party that does not support her rights."

Neither party gives a fuck about women's rights.

The Democrats in the US House just passed the "Equality Act" that would strip women of their sex-based rights, strip women of the sex-segregated spaces they have fought for for centuries, and erase women as a distinct legal category.

Yet women are supposed to swallow that their rights and safety are being set back more than a hundred years, and work and volunteer for Democrats in 2020, so that those same Democrats can keep destroying their rights?

Because right now the Equality Act is rotting in the Senate, but if the Senate and the presidency goes to the Democrats, women are screwed. If the GOP wins, women are screwed. Women are politically homeless.

Joe Biden has said passing the Equality Act is his number one priority. Joe Biden doesn't give a flying fuck about women. The GOP don't give a fuck about women, but right now the GOP is only attacking reproductive rights, the Democrats are attacking every single women's right.

Since the right can't come up with any ideas that actually attract voters, they reduced to hiring lying operatives to undermine the enthusiasm and suppress the gay, women's, Jewish and black vote with wedge issues. It's not going to work. We see the lies, the corruption, the criminality and we are voting the GOP out of office wherever and whenever we are able.

I "vote the GOP out of office" to the extent one vote can, and I have done so since 1972. Doesn't mean I'm down with T.

Damn, r42, I wish you were right. I could use some extra money.

But I'm just an ordinary gay man. And still liberal, despite the insane antics of the far left.

Nothing wrong with transgender. Everything wrong with using transgender to divide and conquer.

R5 I was the same way. I still gravitate towards femme things, but I know I'm a man and have no desire to identify as a woman.

r45, the issue is that the trans activists are the ones that are doing the dividing.

r45 Transgender is not wrong, though it is biologically incorrect.

That's exactly right, r45. I am not inherently bothered by transgendered people. But the extreme radical left's insistence that we are all one "community" makes absolutely no sense. We are what they do not want to be. Why are they practicing parasitology on us?

I've stopped watching Pose. Enough of Lady Ryan Murphy and his male genital-mutilating trans agenda.

I was reading the Oct./Nov. issue of the Advocate at the barber shop and every story was trans, drag, misgendering, non-binary, etc. (there was one story about a actor who identified himself as a "same-sex-loving man").

Millennials cannot say the word 'gay'.

R47 How many " transtapo" threads have you seen on DL sowing division and hate? Not very money. But you can count on there being multiple threads every day with the same spammed talking points. Resorting to name-calling, encouraging people not to vote for either party, and questioning whether they are women, or gay. Just bullshit trolling day after day.

For years now this has been going on. It is a misinformation campaign by forces that don't care about gays, don't care about women, don't care about children. They are here to empower corrupt, evil people who want everyone to allow them to exploit and subjugate our country

R52, I’m sorry you can’t see the reality of what’s happening.

I think r52 sees reality very clearly.

r51 I was watching some Youtube video and there was an ad before it where they interviewed four people (two men, two women) who identified as the "demisexual". The two men were flaming. They were like "omg I looked up the term 'demisexual' and it totally made so much sense!!", meanwhile no mention of the gender of their partners, just how they feel NO sexual connection unless they are romantically involved with a person. It was one big eye roll.

Show me these "transtapo" divisive, hateful threads.

You've been polluting this site for years now on a daily basis. Why? If there is no trans presence sowing division and hate. Because it's anonymous and you are a cookie-clearing troll shilling for the right.

R47 Fox News and the fundies are yelling about the evvvviiil transgender. So are the trolls from 8chan posting here. So are the morons screaming about gay erasure.

Human rights are not some limited special offer. the anti trans people are all anti science and anti human rights.

But do you bigot. Don't be surprised when your sexuality is deemed degenerate and not worth protecting.

[quote]Resorting to name-calling, such as "freeper," "Republican," and "alt-right" about people for whom none of those names is an accurate description.

Fixed.

“Clayton” is posting on DL, that’s who is behind all the !rans posts, OP. “Clayton” (not his real name, according to interviewers because he’s “afraid of retaliation”) is a rightwing cunt follower of Milo who gives interviews to The Federalist.

The Federalist!

Yeah, “Clayton,” a lily livered worm who won’t even stand up for his views by using his real name, is the one who shitposts on DL to this day.

R52 is the same shill that shows up on all the trans threads now, telling us how we are all bigots. Honey, no. We see through this shit. You can keep calling people bigots but it will only make things worse. There are plenty of lesbians who post here and they are tired of your lady dick.

[quote] Show me these "transtapo" divisive, hateful threads.

I'd like an answer to this too.

R61 you are a bigot. You want to discriminate against people because of their sexuality.

Science tells us external genitalia doesn't necessarily match internal sexual orientation.

Science tells us transgender are not mentally ill.

Western philosophical tradition tells us each and every individual is deserving of protection of the state. (Human rights).

You insist transgender by their very existence are freaks of nature and not worth legal protections. That is bigotry, that is hate.

Substituting the "Alas, the page you requested was not found" page for the actual OP in today's "Marsha Johnson admits to NOT starting the Stonewall Rebellion" thread is certainly trans-favoring and divisive. I don't know if it is hateful or not, but there was no reason not to be able to read the post as submitted.

Cares so much for women, so concerned for them he uses a term like "ladydick". Keep showing us who you are. It just makes it easier for even the densest to see your colors.

People with ladydicks aren't women, r65.

Nothing divisive about shutting down troll posts.

And yet, r67, here you are on one side, calling it a "troll post." And here I am on the other, realizing I wouldn't know if it's a troll post, [italic]as I was not allowed to read it[/italic].

So...you dont think Datalounge should have the right to police its own site?

Not over something like this, r69. Why are you so married to shutting down information and discussion?

You could google it and read it as you wish. Or more likely you will google it find out it is a lie. Honesty is not a strong point of our enemies, the deplorables.

Datalounge has always policed itself. That’s why have f&f and block options. The trolls are nothing new, they just need to be continually called out. We are not a conservative website and never were.

[quote] Why are you so married to shutting down information and discussion?

Because it is not information and discussion. It is lies and trolling.

[quote]That’s why have f&f and block options.

The block option no longer functions.

[quote]We are not a conservative website and never were.

I'm not a conservative. I would like to have read the article that was posted.

So now you're going try your faux victim routine. "I just want to inform and discuss." Spamming is not informing. Name -calling is not discussion and liars should be destroyed.

[quote] The block option no longer functions.

Sure it does. Or I wouldnt have been able to do this...

FOX News’ Greg Gutfeld: Trans Activists are Transitioning Children to ‘Eliminate’ Gay and Lesbian People — WATCH People with ladydicks aren't women, r65.

FOX News’ Greg Gutfeld: Trans Activists are Transitioning Children to ‘Eliminate’ Gay and Lesbian People — WATCH And yet, r67, here you are on one side, calling it a "troll post." And here I am on the other, realizing I wouldn't know if it's a troll post, [italic]as I was not allowed to read it[/italic].

FOX News’ Greg Gutfeld: Trans Activists are Transitioning Children to ‘Eliminate’ Gay and Lesbian People — WATCH Not over something like this, r69. Why are you so married to shutting down information and discussion?

FOX News’ Greg Gutfeld: Trans Activists are Transitioning Children to ‘Eliminate’ Gay and Lesbian People — WATCH [quote]That’s why have f&f and block options.

The block option no longer functions.

[quote] I'm not a conservative. I would like to have read the article that was posted.

There are all sorts of sites you can go to read that sort of crap.

Isn't "block" another word for "ignore"? My ignores are not staying ignored.

[quote]So now you're going try your faux victim routine.

Weren't you just cunting about "name calling"?

Got anymore misogyny you want to wheel out for those women you are crusading to save from those dastardly trans.

r81 That's "any more misogyny," cuntessa.

I get the feeling you don't like sharing information and discussing with me.

[quote] “Clayton” is posting on DL, that’s who is behind all the !rans posts, OP.

Actually, I was away from DL for about 2 1/2 years; only returned recently because I posted about the reality of biological dimorphism in human being and thus was banned.

[quote] “Clayton” (not his real name, according to interviewers because he’s “afraid of retaliation”)

I'm still concerned, especially in the light of what happened with the lesbian couple and their son murdered by Dana Rivers.

[quote] is a rightwing cunt follower of Milo who gives interviews to The Federalist.

Nope, I loathe Milo and, as I posted above: I'm a homosexual male who supports same-sex marriage, opposes the death penalty, supports a woman's right to choose, believes we need an economy balanced between capitalism and some socialism, has never voted for a Republican and despises Trump.

Seriously, it absolutely astonishes me that the left has become so censorious and rejecting biological reality in favor of regressive ideas of gender. Like many others, I am lost politically -- I abhor the right and Trump, but the extreme left is pushing me away. There's no way in hell I'm voting for Trump or any Republican, but if the Democrats continue to endorse this inane, regressive gender ideology, and the attendant censorship that goes with it, I won't be voting for them, either.

A whistleblower from the UK's major gender clinic The Tavistock contributed to an expose in The Times earlier this year. A number of physicians have resigned over concerns and one of those concerns is that some parents were pushing transition on their children due to homophobic attitudes.

There's a lot more to all this than conservative talking points unless believing that people can't change sex is a de-facto right wing position now?

Pretending there are no issues is as bad a climate change denial. If we can't recognise sex then we can't see sexism or hope to fight for women's rights. Ditto gay rights - the term homosexual has a concrete meaning based in reality.

A little boy thinks he is really truly is a girl and wants to present himself as one and refer to himself by female pronouns? Fine. But let him wait until he's eighteen to decide if he(she) wants to go through medical and surgical transitioning.

The whole business of transitioning children as young as three with intense medical intervention is extremely disturbing.

Sorry, meant to say I only returned recently as I was banned from Twitter when I posted about the reality of biological dimorphism in human beings.

I do so wish there was an edit function here.

Strangely how all these (faux) concerned posters weren't there when a number of Republican-controlled states attacked basic reproductive rights of women not that long ago. Hmmm...

r85: Laverne Cox admitted that her very conservative grandmother (or aunt...an elderly female relative) was very homophobic and despised Cox when she was a gay man....but is now perfectly accepting of her transitioning. It truly is the latest "ex-gay therapy".

[quote] It truly is the latest "ex-gay therapy".

Except in every single way.

Yeah, r90, it's prevent-gay therapy.

Not at all. But you are so far gone you can't see the difference between an elephant and a hammer.

You are correct, r91, but it Cox's case it was "ex-gay" therapy.

r92, what if the elephant identifies as a hammer?

What's that supposed to mean R88? It's not an either or thing. I very much support reproductive rights although I'm British so there's not a whole lot I can do about US politics.

It should be noted that one of woke Twitter's main talking points about the roll back of reproductive rights was to berate anyone who suggested only women need abortions. How are people meant to fight against the right wing attacking women's rights if the left wing won't allow any meaningful recognition of what a woman is?

No one gives a fuck about "woke Twitter" except the Far Right.

Yes they do R96. I can't speak for elsewhere but in the UK it's used as a (misguided) barometer of public feeling by politicians, third sector orgs, journalists etc...It's not always a good thing because it isn't always reflective of reality.

This site seems to have the lure of an animal when it comes to all these alt-right UK-based trolls and TERFs.

If you truly cared about the Democrats winning in 2020, you would force the Democrats to examine their support for the Transgender Lobby-pushed laws they are passing without apparently even reading, BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION.

You can't get the GOP out of office without winning the Independents, many of whom only really start to pay attention just before the four year presidential elections.

Many women will never need an abortion, many women have religious objections to abortion, but almost all women, more than 90% of US women, according to a recent TIMES UP survey, have been sexually harassed.

One in five American women have been or will be raped, according to the US Center for Disease Control

When the GOP wheels out that Democrats are passing laws that will throw open every single women's sex-segregated space to any man who self-identifies as a woman, and that 90% of transgender women keep their dicks, and that 63% are attracted to females, (SOURCE: National Center for Transgender Rights)

many women will be, "Oh HELL NO."

Women make up more than 50% of the population and swing the vote. If the Democrats lose Progressive and Independent women, they lose the vote.

Transgenders make up around 0.6% of the population.

If the Democrats want to win, they need to stop putting the feelings of 0.6% of the population over the rights and safety of more than 50% of the population.

Trans ideology and Queer Theorists are based on nothing but psychotic lies, and it's extremely homophobic in every fucking way to support it. The truth always comes out and becomes clearer in time. Trans ideology and Queer Theorists will be clearly seen by everyone except by the truly insane, for the fucking horeshit that it is. It's just like the bogus flat earth society, and like cults. Trans ideology and Queer Theorists are the most fucked up people and the most fucked up liars, next to Hitler, the world has probably ever witnessed and has had to deal with.

[quote] Trans ideology and Queer Theorists are the most fucked up people and the most fucked up liars, next to Hitler, the world has probably ever witnessed and has had to deal with.

Gee, I dont know why no one takes you seriously.

Why aren't you telling Dems yourself instead of badgering us? Why are you a spokesman for women? You don't think they can look out for their own interest. Who do you think you are to be telling anyone what they should or should not be concerned about.? You haven't earned the right to speak for anyone given the way you present yourself with all your demagoguery. You are a troll. We know you are a lying troll and your disappearance would be the best thing that could happen to site.

TERF - Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits

r103, I want that on a t-shirt!!!

R101: I don't expect you to take me seriously tranny, that's above your capacity because of how much of a fucking liar you and your trans cult are.

[quote] Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits

Then lay down your sword, my brother. No one will miss you.

- with the culture of misogyny and homophobia which underlies transgender theory

For without stereotypes there can be no ‘brave transgender children’. Without the dolls and the pink tutus, a love of glitter, a gentle nature and a will to dance, what could possibly make girls of the little boys of ‘My Transgender Summer Camp’? What other than her love of Batman, karate and jumping around could make that short-haired, fierce little girl into a boy trapped in a female body? A feeling? How does a boy feel? How does a girl feel? Without sexism, there can be no transgenderism. Without the idea that there is a ‘right’ or a ‘wrong’ way to be a boy or a girl there would be no need to beguile and medicate these kids in an attempt to make them ‘fit in’. Our current culture of blind affirmation is not doing anyone any favours. It is nothing short of abusive to tell a child that they are ‘wrong’, that they have been ‘born in the wrong body’ or that medication and surgery can make them into the opposite sex.

R106 Did you just misgender me?

Cut down your verbal diarrhea, R107, and tell us where you were when they came for abortion rights. Everything else is just more shit dribbling out of your frothing mouth.

You can't misgender someone when you don't know someone's gender. Nice try though.

I'm guessing they were ineffectually arguing about trans on an anonymous gay website, because, you know, they are very concerned. It's a serious threat and nothing gets better results that spamming hate and division anonymously.

[quote] they are very concerned.

They are very concerned... that Trump might lose next year.

T can only smear (as OP does here) or censor - they cannot defend their positions which are lies, homophobic and sexist.

They cannot defend the horrific malpractice now being done to minors

They cannot defend the obvious unfairness of men in women's sporting events, or men in women's changing rooms and bathrooms.

The cannot defend their lies about basic biology.

How dare they call anyone a "bigot" when they promote sexism and homophobia in such obvious, extreme, and harmful ways. They are extreme bigots and they are NOT liberal in any sense.

You have no idea that anyone posting here IS trans.

R113: Yes, yes, and more yes! The truth!

You can't defend spamming a gossip website with propaganda lies.

You can't defend claiming you care about gays, women and children while wasting hours everyday spamming this website, calling everyone who disagrees misogynistic and hateful names

Is that Milo/Linda or one of his flying monkeys? I guess that sad bunch, now cut off Mercer's teat, must make their pennies some other way.

A piece of advice for them: street prostitution is a cleaner and more respectable job.

Homocons homoconning. Emphasis on con as in a con job or con man like their leader, Twitler.

Propaganda and lies are the T specialty.

"Transwoman is a woman." No, he is a man. He is not a woman

"transkids" - children are not transvestites, exhibitionists, or fetishists. Why are they being dragged into this? Why can't they play with a doll or a car? Why are tomboys being rebranded as "trans"? Why are we supposed to support harm to children? Why are we supposed to support such rigid sexism and homophobia? They encourage parents to be homophobic and harm their children. Children are dragged into this because otherwise it is just the adult exhibitionists and fetishists. They don't care about what happens to the kids that are dragged into this.

Is there anything more anti-science flat earth than pretending a man is a woman? Not only that they DEMAND that you repeat it to - or you will be fired, banned, or investigated. That is insane totalitarianism. Who can go along with this? It is not rational.

Thank you for that link, r107. She makes her points about the sexist constructs of proper "male" and "female" behavior very succinctly and convincingly.

There is NOTHING more RIGHT-WING than the Trans push that has been going on in recent years

It is homophobic and sexist

A man can never be woman. A lesbian can never have a penis.

I will not be forced to lie. I will not submit

If anyone is being paid, it's the Trans Lobby astroturfers on this site, desperate to convince gay men that the sexual fetishes of middle-aged heterosexual men - autogynephiles- with cocks - are a gay rights issue.

The Trans Lobby has big bucks, the bucks it stealthy stole from LGB activism, just like it stealthy cemented itself to the acronym LGB itself back in the 90s, knowing it's brand of mentally-ill, Flat-Eartherism would get nowhere without latching onto a bigger lobby.

But again, trans make up 0.6% of the US population, women make up more than 50%, so...

IF YOU WANT THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN, CHOOSE YOUR SIDE WISELY

It's actually a right wing conspiracy to eliminate homosexuality.

R123: THIS. THANK YOU.

R119: Exactly!

Yaa, that's the ticket! They stole all the gay money to help out the right wing conspiracy. Do tell us more.

They definitely stole all the gay money and organizations founded by gay people and turned them into anti-gay ones. That is political infiltration for political attack.

Tell us the one about pharmaceutical companies spending millions to create a trans market that they can then spend more millions on advertising to their created trans market to sell them drugs that are so incredibly profitable in the window before generics will be available as to make them so much money that it was worth investing the original ridiculous amount of money.

We have an uber catholic family in our town that is pushing their obvs lesbian daughter into being a trans male who likes women rather than a female lesbian that likes women. IT IS SO STRANGE!! They’ve been pushing that agenda since the kid was 14, addressing her as male since.

So the trans stole the gay money the same Trump stole the GOP money from Jeb Bush?

Do the one where poor ignorant parents and doctors who are such repressed homophobes they are forcing children to have their genitals removed. I love that one. The AMA, the whole psychology field, the Democratic Party, OUT magazine and the Advocate Pflag, Gladd, and HRC are all in on it because they hate happy kids and hate gays that fund their endeavors.

Of course parents with homophobic and sexist tendencies respond to the trans propaganda which is homophobic and sexist. There is ample evidence of this.The trans propaganda seeks to undo any progress of gay and women's liberation movements, with kids as the collateral damage.

Why do you think this is funny, R131? People who care about gay rights and harm to kids do not think it is funny.

IT thinks it's funny R132, because IT IS probably trans itself. And if IT isn't trans, and in fact a gay man or gay woman, then that is 10 times worse and 10 times more pathetic than an actual trans defending trans ideology!

I am so grateful that you with no posting history have spammed our anonymous gay gossip site and recommended right -wing sites that want to help us fight this menace and allow us to flourish. There's no reason to be suspicious at all.

Which "right-wing sites" have been linked to, r134? I haven't seen Breitbart or Fox News or The Federalist linked to.

Your repeated talking points have me so fearful that everyone, every organization and every magazine and every candidate who relies on my patronage secretly wants me to transition so I can save my money.

Trans haters and russian trolls - ENOUGH. stop posting this shit stirring crap on Datalounge. BLOCKED.

Here is a doctor who has concerns about the trans push

What if everyone transes and I become the oldest living American homosexual widower? Do I write a book. It's so frightening to contemplate. At least Greg Gutfeld opened my eyes. I never would have guessed he cared so deeply for the gay people.

Yes, R138 a doctor who specializes in diabetes is the medical professional for me.

fuck you r139

Such quality information this unknown person shares out of nothing but a passion to help gay people fight this heinous threat. I wish the was some way to express our gratitude. Maybe we will erect a statue in your honor if we ever know who you are and what motivated you to be such a fierce crusader.

R137: Stop telling us to believe in trans ideology lies, simply because you love to live your existence by telling massive lies, because you can't accept reality or the truth. Stop telling us who don't agree with trans ideology because we have tons of evidence and reasons to be against it, which we've provided, that we are Russians or trolls. This is what trans supporters do, they shut down and censor anyone who disagrees with them, and who actually has proof of what trans ideology is doing, has done, and will continue to do. None of it being good or healthy.

The T cannot refute any of the information. Any of the obvious sexism, homophobia and harm. And just types these stupid empty lines that are supposed to be jokes.

R144: EXACTLY. Further proving how insane and intellectually dishonest they are!

Broken clocks and all that...

I was reminded the other day about Richard Masbruch the first transwoman put in a California's women prison where he proceeded to rape the inmates with objects. This is the same state that recently put through SB 132 facillitating any man like Masbruch in ruining the lives of the unlucky women locked in with him. It's beyond cruel and unusual punishment. There is no justification in the world for whats being done to women whether nonconsensually exposing women and girls to dick in the changing room or men like Masbruch/Yaniv/White given license by dopey leftwingers to inflict horror on women's souls. Weatherfairy you are the worst and you'll scamper from this thread like the little misogynistic coward you are, ready to lie and bully on the next one.

R29, that explains Justin Bieber.

You are so brave with anecdotes. What if Pete Buttigieg is elected and finds out you know about the money the trans stole from the gays. And how they ruined the Pride parades and drag queen bingo. He won't let you live. Pharmaceutical companies will need to silence you just like they are silencing Alex Jones.

^ junk

R147: I think that explains Justin Bieber too.

4thWaveNow exposes disturbing posts leaked from private group for parents of “transgender children”

R88, funny how “feminist” have been focused more on T rights than women’s rights.

R98, terf is a woman-hating slur.

Women require & deserve privacy from men.

If women don’t want penis in their spaces, then penis needs to stay out of their spaces.

The don't have sex with men until trans can go to the bathroom where they want was really popular.

I never wanted tits and vaginas in my spaces but you know how moms can be.

R153: And if gay men don't want vagina in their spaces, then vagina needs to stay out of their spaces.

Wingnuts will be the death of Datalounge.

R127, we have but you keep deleting our threads.

R128, google “gay news.” Only T outlets come up.

R157: Trans and Queer Theorists will be the death of Datalounge, and the death of the world.

R159: Exactly! It's pathetic.

Nothing more evil than a PhD thesis.

R156, transmen have vaginas. So we agree. 😊

You know we can tell you are stanning your own posts.

I’ve been out since I was 23, and volunteered in an aids clinic in 1993.

I totally agree with R26, r36, r41, r52, r100, r119, r121, r122, r123, r132, r141, r143, r146, etc.

R60, Clayton is a true Gay Rights hero. I love & fully support him.

Sooooo the homocon anti-trans lunatic is having another obsessive-compulsive meltdown I see.

^ slurs , nothing else

R163: Obviously transmen have vaginas, because transmen are women masquerading as pretend men via surgery and hormones.

*cuckoo clock chimes 15*

R169, nothing is more “cuckoo” than T

It’s impossible to change sex.

*Patty Duke's 'Crazy' starts up on jukebox*

R170: Fact and truth!

Ii hope if I'm ever so fixated on a non-issue that I post a link to any of the Fox News "entertainers" some one who loves me will euthanize me.

Whatever you think of this issue - that people can decide their biological sex and the rest of us have to play along, or don't - Fox News covers the Transgender Lobby frequently. Joe Rogan does too.

Fox News has the largest viewership of all cable news. Joe Rogan gets millions of views.

I do not want the GOP to win, which is why I want us all to talk the Democrats down from this bridge, and get them to stop supporting gender extremists.

Because the gender extremists are eviscerating the rights of parents, gays and women, and destroying children's lives - The Democrats need to ditch the narcissistic freaks and start working on policies that will address issues that Americans actually care about.

So you don't want Democrats to dwell on this is but you want to spam this site multiple times a day telling us that Dems shouldn't dwell on this issue. Got it. So incredibly clueless.

R176: THIS. Accurately stated.

I personally feel that some females may get shafted by the new laws and "social norms" that "trans folk" are pushing nationwide, but I also kinda feel that the issue is between females and trans women to settle between each other and I want nothing to do with it. If the pro-trans trolls are right... there will be no issues, so no problem. If the anti-trans trolls are right... the problems will eventually have to be dealt with, and the chips can fall where they may. As a gay male I'm not really affected, and the whole thing is SO politically charged that I wouldn't want to touch it even if I were.

I view female "trans men" bitching about "gay male exclusion" like every other gay male on earth, with 10% eye rolling and 90% don't give a fuck. I'll call you by your requested pronouns (he/she, I draw the line at "they" and instead linguistically work around it--this isn't a judgement on transgender "they/them" pronouners, it's rejecting a bastardization of the language), but no amount of "queer theory" or whatever they call it will get me to EVER interact sexually with a female, EVER.

And they should stop lying and aggrandizing themselves over stonewall, which we ALL know was a gay men's bar, not a "drag queen/tranny" establishment.

Arguing about it nonstop on DL is pretty dumb though.

R179: Agreed!

Three female Connecticut track & field athletes have filed a federal discrimination complaint against a statewide policy on transgender athletes, saying it violates IX and has cost them top finishes in competitions and possibly college scholarships.

Connecticut allows boys to self-identify as female and compete in girls athletics, and two boys, one with a mustache, have been cleaning up in women's races.

The complaint was filed yesterday and Fox has already had one of the girls on.

Now, how many women, who themselves competed in sports, and dads of girls who compete, from across the political spectrum, will support the girls?

So glad Dems took your advice and are not dwelling on this like you and FOX News.

Perhaps the Dems SHOULD dwell on it, seriously dwell on it to consider the wider implications of supporting the trans ideology.

R183: Exactly. Trans ideology=madness. The world is mad enough without adding more madness to it.

Do you ever not use arguments that homophobes used against gay people when supposedly trying to persuade gay people to support your ideas?

? "Hey Jews, we can round up all the trans and exterminate them in showers with poison gas. If anyone knows how effective that plan is, it's you."

It doesn't matter who else supports things. That's a red herring.

In the 1950s and 1960s there were communists involved in the civil rights movement. Which you would expect. That was the big charge against Dr. King and other movement leaders. So who gives a fuck. If the cause is right then it's right. If people I don't like are with me on an issue then so be it.

You know how fundy Christian men obsess over anal sex more than any homosexual in the world?

Maybe the psychos on DL with obsessive-compulsive anti-trans issues should find a therapist to work through them.

As opposed to spamming DL with this shit.

R187: You continually miss the point and the fact like all trans people do, that the ones who need serious fucking help and maybe need to spend time at a mental ward, are trans people. Because trans people don't deal in fact or reality when it comes to anything, but expect the world to lie with them and for them. That's the major difference to all the other comparisons that you post.

It's not the trans who are disrupting this site. It is you! Your actions. Your spamming. Your bullying. Your unhealthy obsession that is making DL a miserable place to be.

Whatever, the trans community needs is up to them and their allies to figure out. They don't have a presence on DL and we might be having a different conversation if they did.

So stop deflecting from your disgusting behavior. You are the problem for us and no amount of trans hysteria is going to make your hateful trolling posts any more palatable, your lies any more persuasive and your existence anything but a nuisance.

R189: We've answered literally all of this a billion times. You are probably trans because none of us support what trans ideology has ruined and destroyed. You don't get to walk away from causing actual harm and ruin to others affected by the cultish trans ideology. All that trans do is rewrite history and facts, and play the victim, when the proof is piling up more and more about how fucked up all of it is. So don't start turning everything around because you can't defend yourself, because trans people lied from the beginning about fucking everything. That's the only way they got any footing so fucking quickly into anything. That, and with the help of corrupt organisations. All of it is being proved, and the more you pro trans delusionists keep denying it, the more you keep pissing off the whole world. The world is rightfully responding to the shit that the trans ideology started, so stop your bullshit deflections and stop twisting truth and facts to propagate your fetish. Because that's all transgenderism/transsexuality truly is. A sick fucking fetish that got so far out of hand and encroaches heavily on the rights of others.

We don't care what trans have or have not done. We care that you pollute a site we enjoy coming to. You are our problem not the trans.

R191: Telling the truth about something serious isn't pollution. Lying about something serious is pollution, which you and trans supporters are skilled at. More of us are in agreement on Datalounge about the toxicity of trans ideology, so stop using "our", because hardly none of us here or on this Thread are on your side of this trans issue. You are the one here who is the problem, along with all trans supporters, and we wish all of you would fuck off our Gay website!

R191: Most of us care a great deal about what harmful shit trans have done, you liar.

The truth repeated and spammed, disrupting unrelated threads no matter how true is pollution. If you were part of this site you would have a posting history. If you were part of this site you would be respectful of other people's threads. If you were part of this site you would know to take your grievances with the trans community to trans sites. If you cared about their lies, you would be calling them out to their faces. Not hiding here. You are a fraud, who even writes your own "I agree with him" posts. Corrupt, lying, evil troll.

R194: You are seriously an IDIOT.

Which is much better than anything your duplicitous, obnoxious ass will ever be.

The trans"man" school shooter, and her Trans-Uber-Alles supporters, are insisting people use male pronouns for her, and not dead naming her by using her female name.

Wonder if her deep conviction that she's a male will survive after she's jailed with men.

And just like that he's back to spamming his talking points, which is what I'm sure he is being paid to do by whatever entity he works for that wants to dilute the power of the gay vote.

Do you have to do your own research or does someone dig up all the dirt for you to post and link. Pro tip: no one clicks on links from bigots or reads any of your posts that are longer than two sentences. But it is impressive that you keep posting all this crap that everyone ignores. A true bought and paid for crusader.

R196: Duplicitousnes is the badge trans and trans supporters wear proudly. All a tranny supporter can do, is say the opposite no matter how much you have to keep lying, and hope someone fucking stupid believes it. We are done with this trans bullshit, and now you'll be seeing just how powerful and intelligent gay men and lesbian women are in defending the truth of our history and our identity. And again, fuck off trans supporter from our gay websites. Truth isn't on your side and never will be.

R199: Hey stupid fucker, nearly all of us here aren't ignoring jack shit. Only you are ignoring it because you are a fucking trans supporter liar.

R197: OMG. No way! IT won't be surviving with it's trans pronouns in prison!

Spamming an anonymous gossip site sure is showing how powerful and intelligent you are. When do you start doing something that actually irritates the trans and not just the gays and straights on here. Oh that's right. You're not paid to do anything about the trans. You're just here distract, misinform and demoralize gay voters.

R202: Go and watch your transsexual pornography trans supporter. You lost from the beginning on this Thread, and you'll lose in real life with your trans cult, as more evidence comes to light, and more people of any sexual orientation wake up even more. It's already happening.

Congratulations! Your work is done. Off you go now. It's been a real pleasure.

I'm afraid sound science has its disagreements regarding transgender/gender dysphoria. Removing gender dysphoria from the category of mental illness seems more like politically-charged movement and pressure by trans activist groups (usually using guilt trip tactics and exacerbated victimhood) than one motivated by sound evidence. R63

People disliking the sex of their bodies to the point of not being able to function psycholically and even desire to alter their bodies and remove healthy genitalia is to me a mental disorder triggered by obsessive thoughts of gender. A mental condition that makes you desire other body when yours is functioning normally cannot honestly be a healthy condition.

There is sound evidence that links gender dysphoria to autism, for example. We also have detransitioners, people who at some point stop "feeling" like the other gender and desire to regain their bodies pre-transition. There are clearly incongruencies/inconsistencies with claims that disregard biology by trans activists.

Chop off your dick

Because you're sick!

Make gay teens trans

To get more fans!

All of this funded

by GOP-cunted!

Except that the new trans theories state you no longer NEED to have your dick and balls removed to be a "real" woman! Imagine that! You can be a lesbian with a ladypenis!

R205: Perfectly stated! Spot on! There is absolutely nothing that trans supporters can say or do that remotely merits any type of law enforcement or drastic science breakthrough, because it's all based on the minds of individuals who are so far removed from logic, reality, and proven science; that it should be treated as what it rightfully is. A mental illness that not only severely harms themselves, but harms others. And when someone is a danger to society or to themselves, it's the legal responsibility of the authorities to intervene. Mental health professionals and doctors assisting them in body mutilation and extreme disease causing hormones/puberty blockers proven to be unsafe for anyone being administered them, is abhorrent malpractice! There should be considerable legal action taken against such mental health professionals and doctors giving the greenlight for blatant lunacy!

Microsoft is supporting Pride by flogging laptop covers for £125 each and donating some of the profits to Mermaids

Why is the not-credible "Mermaids" group getting support of govts and politicians in the UK and the US, and so many other places...like Microsoft?

MASTERCARD is going to let people change the name on their card from their legal name to whatever name they want to be more in line with their gender identity.

Why are governments, passports, financial institutions suddenly throwing away the importance of data about citizens and customers?

R207: Yes because they needed something slightly less outrageous to add to their trans ideology, but ultimately, even without going to extreme and insane measures of surgical intervention to alter themselves; no one has the right to identify as anything they choose and feel which directly encroaches on the rights of others. Especially in overt and intrusive manners like we are seeing with those being coerced to engage in sexual activity and shamed if they refuse, forced to share private spaces, and forced by laws to use pronouns or face legal punishment.

R211: It's very perplexing as to how they can justify this ethically or legally!

R206: Bottom line, this is their motto.

There is a very well-funded global push by the "Transgender" or "Gender" Lobby to change the definition of "sex" to include "gender identity."

It was started at the meeting in Indonesia that led to the Yogyakarta Principles in 2007 and morphed in 2017 into the Yogyakarta Plus 10, the global Gender Lobby's manifesto.

All over the world birth certificates are being changed to include a third gender, or non gender identification, so what's the point of the certificate in terms of ID or tracking demographics?

And then there are many places where an adult can change their birth certificate to reflect their gender identity.

We have to take off our shoes and get x-rayed at the airport, but Gawd forbid our IDs reflect our actual biological sex.

R215: Thank you for posting that and explaining! It's certain that enormous amounts of money and powerful corrupt organisations are spearheading all of these nonsensical and tiresome amendments. Thankfully sanity and logic are still prevailing in counteracting the lunacy, however, when money and powerfully corrupt organisations are involved, it involves a long battle. But we will prevail in exposing them. Trans ideology will be stamped out in one way or another, as we already have truth and evidence on our side. It's just going to take longer because they currently have corrupt backing in very high places.

R215: And when you consider all of the "lady boys" that saturate Indonesia, it's not a coincidence!

As in India, most of the "transgender women" in Indonesia, that NPR loves to go on about, are gay men forced to transition.

R216, gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

All the energy we have to expend on protecting our rights against the Gender Lobby, is energy that could have been expended on other progressive causes, like climate change, or universal health care. I really resent this.

What's beyond enraging is that 90% of the support for the Gender Warriors is from people who mistakenly believe that they are supporting women/gays, when it's the opposite - the Gender Lobby is the Trojan Horse that will destroy gays and feminism from the inside.

It's mostly Russians and Trump fans. They are trying to make Trans a divisive issue not only among heterosexuals, but among the LBGT community. It's right out of the Trump and Russia playbook. Ignore these hateful fucks.

R218 is 100% CORRECT!

R218: 500% CORRECT!

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

gays and women shouldn't be having to refight for their very recently-won rights, against an attack from "the Left" no less.

Here's a whole sub Reddit full of heartbreaking stories from kids who transitioned and are now desperately trying to get their health and lives back.

[quote] Hi. I’m twenty years old and since I was fifteen I’ve been living as a trans man. I’ve been on hormones for nearly three years. Only recently have I begun to wonder if I made the right choice. Would I be happy if I was still living my life as a woman? That question’s been on my mind a lot these days. I feel like I’ve ruined my chances at love, my dating pool has been reduced to a shallow puddle. My vagina is atrophying, I can’t be penetrated anymore because it’s just too uncomfortable. I hate having to preface every romantic interaction with “You know I’m trans, right?” It’s a nightmare. I keep looking at my sister’s success on Tinder and thinking “That could have been you, you dumb piece of shit.” Would I be this way if I had never stumbled across Tumblr? I wish more than anything that I would have received therapy, that someone would have considered my trauma before prescribing me life-changing drugs. Apparently I have PTSD, it’s crazy that nobody realized this, even as the gender therapist wrote down my entire life’s story, from my dad’s suicide to being abused and statutorily raped by multiple people. You’d think they’d want to address those red flags first. I think it’s too late to go back. I’d lose my friends, my job, my family, the damage has been done and it feels irreversible. I’ll never go back to the way I used to be. It feels like killing myself might be the only option I have left.

R223: Thank you for posting!! These are the consequences of believing in mythical trans ideology lies!! Truly heartbreaking indeed!!

r223 I've seen some of the stories in that subreddit and they are truly, truly heartbreaking. MANY cases of gay men and women (but predominately lesbians) who are introduced to gender dysphoria/trans online (often tumblr, where being--or pretending to be--a minority is a social currency, too bad it's NOT that way in the real world!), and seem to be fairly easily prescribed hormones and surgery.

The trans women stories are especially sad when they regret being castrated or having a "neovagina" installed, but surgery is a couple steps beyond just hormones, and hormones are what really gets the trans men (who regret it). Everybody here obviously knows that testosterone is one hell of a hormone, and its ability to change/alter a person's appearance is magnitudes greater than estrogen. So the trans men who just get to the first phase (hormone therapy) are already changing their bodies to an extreme degree. Which is great if that's what they want, but reading the stories of the regretful ones is equal parts heartbreaking and horrifying.

I just learned this recently, but when trans men have "top surgery" (to remove/flatten their chests) it's EXTREMELY common for their nipples to fall off. Is it because they have to sever all the nerves? No idea, but that seems pretty metal to me.

That's the first time I read the De-Transition sub Reddit at R223 and I have to say I was aghast, even though I knew that these kids were being irreparably harmed, to read the true stories of their mutilation and deep regret...

And the Democrats in the US House of Representative, pushed by Our Lady of Pelosi, just passed the Equality Act - every single member of Congress needs to read the detrans sub Reddit so they can know what they're actually pushing. Monsters.

Please call your Congresspeople, and your local/state representatives and tell them that they HAVE to read the detrans sub Reddit before passing any more Gender Lobby legislation!

A lot of the Gender Lobby legislation is already passed/ pending on the state level, so call your state legislature too!

[quote] he realization of what I've done to myself by transitioning and in particular by undergoing surgery ridding my body of gonads has been increasingly hitting me recently. I'm only 21 and I made myself a medical patient for life, even though I was in perfect health. And for what? For the belief that I would magically be happier once on "the other side", how fucking naive. I so, soo wish I had encountered someone who'd stop me from undergoing transition. It's too late now, and fact is, even if I had, I might not have listened anyway. It almost feels like I was so consumed with the thought of transition, of achieving certain ideal I truly believed in at the time, that I just lost the "true me" for a few years. I broke down in tears a few times the past week because it just dawned on me there's not true way back, I can't undo what I've done. It feels like waking up from a nightmare, only the nightmare was brought on willingly by myself.

Pelosi and the rest of the Dems (and a couple of Republicans) are pushing the "Equality Act" but the Sponsor (and who also introduced it) is:

Sponsor: Rep. Cicilline, David

A gay man.

HOW can any gay person support this?

Who the hell is this trans troll who thinks people will shut up because it says so? Time to put it on ignore for good.

That's what I have come to think too. People seem to think that by supporting trans they are supporting LGB. Most people ignore the irrencilable differences between LGB and T; they think it is one and the same cause. As such, trans activism strongly depends on the LGBT acronym because the acronym is its shield to silence questions masquerading as a legitimate condition like sexual orientation. It looks to me that trans activism could not achieve all this as a separate cause. R218

He's not exactly wrong here. Lots of gender clinics that specialize in children have said the same thing in other words. This is what they do, ts profitable and socially acceptable. Gays have no problem with it and actively endorse and encourage it.

[quote]Lesbians are hopeless - every now and then they collaborate with the far-right to ban porn or some stupid shit like that, but we... we have no common interests with Fox.

Untrue. Maybe you're doing that "radfem lesbians are worse than Republicans" thing and if so, fuck off. Otherwise, lesbians and feminists against porn almost never ally with the right, because they disagree so vehemently on other related issues (sexism, mainly).

I've seen way too many authenticated and/or identifiable gay men here on DL say they would vote Republican for financial reasons, because of abortion, or because of trans to say that we're any better than the lesbians are. There are crazy fucking right-wing assholes in every demographic.

Yeah? Well those cunts are cheek by jowl with the right wing now, that's for sure.

[quote]Perhaps the Dems SHOULD dwell on it, seriously dwell on it to consider the wider implications of supporting the trans ideology. —Clayton

Ah, fake Clayton is indeed here on DL. I suspected as much. And I would bet many green American dollars that he is a well-known regular with an initial-based name.

No, sweetie, it's really me.

I know you're the "Clayton Channing" who started the petition, just as I know you're a fake Clayton because that's not your real name.

I also know you post as Historyman2019 on reddit, got your Twitter account deleted, and were called out for plagiarizing numerous websites on your own anti-T site, resulting in it getting shut down.

Also impressive is that a noted pederast was "an enthusiastic member" of your forum. You must be so proud!

I can't speak to most of the personal stuff this blogger writes about, but she's got the receipts on your plagiarism and your pathetic career. You're as bad at managing yourself as Milo is.

[quote]If the cause is right then it's right. If people I don't like are with me on an issue then so be it.

Exactly, r186.

Per r190, how many trannies get hard-ons just from the simple act of wearing a skirt?

There is no 190 in this thread.

And since you're looking for her, I'll send you into the abyss to join her.

Ta ta!

R229, an elder lez FB friend constantly posts pro-T bullshit.

She’s a smart woman. A long-time feminist.

I just don’t get it. I know she’d respond with hostility if I posted anything gender critical.

I want to ask her: how do you define “woman”...is it based on reproductive organs & chromosomes or feelings & clothes?

[quote]Substituting the "Alas, the page you requested was not found" page for the actual OP in today's "Marsha Johnson admits to NOT starting the Stonewall Rebellion" thread is certainly trans-favoring and divisive.

The link is broken but it hasn't been censored, you dolt. You can right click and paste into an address bar and delete the "datalounge" part of the URL, which is a copy & paste error on the part of the OP (I think) and is why the link won't work. Or you can find the corrected link in the thread proper, which was posted at least twice.

r235. Your link is to mindless drivel ranting about a website that I was only briefly associated with (reviewing the links shows what was called "plagiarism" was re-posting articles with links to those articles, as is common practice). I didn't know anything about other members. I'm not a person that enjoys being in the spotlight, so I give all my respect to those men and women -- Martina Navratilova, Magdalen Burns, James Dreyfus, Grahame Linehan, etc. -- who are willing to be so open in this fight for protecting the rights of women, gays & lesbians, parents, and children.

Oh, and Clayton really is part of my name. I live in Dallas.

[quote]Sometime last year, all of the literal worst people ever were sharing a change.org petition to “Drop The T” from LGBTQIA, effectively expelling trans people [bold]from the political movement they fucking started[/quote].

I guess Sylvia DID throw the first brick.

[/bold]

R239 Show your lez "feminist" friend some of the incredibly sad posts from the Reddit detrans posted at R223

I love TERF twitter:

[quote] The piece of investigative journalism I really, really want somebody to write will be called Pimp My Kink: How Straight Male Fetishists Got Control of Feminism, the LGBT Movement, and Post-Modern Academia

Just catching up on this thread and am chuckling at the trolls who actually said there are hardly any anti-trans threads that sow division.

Also, huge laughs at "Milo *cough*cough* I mean Clayton" claiming that website wasn't his. He posted so many links to it DL banned it. They also banned the phrase "Dr*p the T" because of him.

That blogger lady writing about Clayton is nutty as a fruitcake but she really does have screen grabs and links.

We need to interview R245 for this book:

Pimp My Kink: How Straight Male Fetishists Got Control of Feminism, the LGBT Movement, and Post-Modern Academia

You say now you were only briefly part of that website but you were spamming all over the place, saying you helped create it. This is your comment from a website I can't link to:

[quote]Clayton Channing on December 5, 2015 at 4:43 pm said:

[quote]Those of us in the LGB community are starting to wake up, question the Transgender Ideology and push back against. A group of us have gathered together to create a new website, http. [...] where we’ll continue to take a critical look at Transgenderism; part of that includes a new essay written by myself, the creator of the Dr*p The T petition that made news a few weeks back. I encourage you to read, register and comment.

You can't escape your past that easily, "Clayton."

Wow, thanks R247 - Clayton you are the DL's New Hero.

Another from TERF twitter:

[quote] It is not my job to pretend reality doesn't exist for people who can't handle reality.

I love you, Clayton.

Clayton is great. Clayton has been a hero for years. Welcome back, Clayton!

The creepy T on this thread trying to attack him shows their tactics - All attack, stalking - attacking with nothing to attack. So creepy. These tactics are played on countless women - anyone who questions the T bullshit/insanity.

Anyone who goes along with the T propaganda is simply stupid. It is quite obvious by now that it is insane, anti-science/reality, anti-women, anti-gay, harming kids, and funded by Pharma Inc. It is politically against gay and women. It is obvious that Ts harassing people that question it have OCD and hate women and are angry, violent porn and anime obsessed incels.

[quote]That blogger lady writing about Clayton is nutty as a fruitcake

Not a "lady," or female

You are not quite getting it...

They got the "fruitcake" part right at least. Read two of his articles about his journey, linked in the article about Clayton, and that was more than enough.

The best part of LGB voice was the forum. I would say intelligent people talking about this can be found on Twitter now (until they are banned by Ts who want to shut discussion down)

That person is at R235 is a T pretending he is a bi woman -how is that for lies? He brings up bi and intersex but he just another angry T.

Somebody's hormones are in overdrive! It's so sad to see a tranny try to isolate and singularize negative truths about transsexuals.

It's the same as the pejorative diminutive use of "cis" (cisgender) for those not-trans. They pathetically try to normalize themselves while "otherizing" normal people who don't need to chop up their bodies.

The TERFs of Scotland just KOed the Gender Warriors! The Scottish government has backed down on men being allowed to self-ID as women.

Scottish feminists are giving thanks to Magdelen Berns, to whom so many of us should also give thanks.

Hey, American TERFs & allies, the Scottish TERFs kicked the Gender Warriors (surgically enhanced) asses in one year. Let's...

Magdalen Berns is [bold]my[/bold] heroine!

That's great, R255!

Yes, Magdalen Berns is great. Her smart videos definitely play an important role.

Unlike the obsessive hysterics on DL that just spam and rant to no effect except to undermine legitimate activists and provide comic relief.

Non-Binary Play Doh in Higher Education

What did suddenly happen to this thread? It was having adult comments and now... I'm confused.

[quote]They pathetically try to normalize themselves while "otherizing" normal people who don't need to chop up their bodies.

Exactly. Keen observation.

Very informative article on how much the pharmaceutical industry will make off of each transitioned child.

[quote] Think of the money — $9700 every three months, for up to seven years — that’s $271,600, from one patient. If you had even a hundred children taking these drugs for seven years, that’s $27 million in drug sales.

R262, and they’ll have to use chemicals the rest of their lives to counter their natural hormones.

The monthly cost is more than the average mortgage payment.

T is evergreen $$$$$$ 💵 🌲

They could open an American Eagle franchise and be more successful. You know nothing about the pharmaceutical industry if you think they care about $27M and are making any effort for an amount they make in an hour.

$27M is just for 100 kids.

You’re a fool if you don’t see the huge profit margins.

They’re sterilizing kids, duh. And for nothing: it’s impossible to change sex

Stop with kids bullshit. It's between the kids, the parents and the doctors. Not some keyboard warrior propagandist who knows nothing about these people.

[QUOTE]It's between the kids, the parents and the doctors.

And therefore???

"These people"?

Kids are not being given a chance. They are not adult transexuals or transvesties with a fetish

They are being abused by ignorant homophobic parents and society and Pharma looking to expand profit.

R266 is the T again, trying to get people to stop talking

Spare us your fallacious talking points. You presume to know posters on DL's genders, their mental illnesses, their beliefs. You presume to know what is in these families best interests, their intelligence levels, their motives. You are a fool who knows nothing about me, the posters on DL, transgender people, their parents and their doctors. And your presumption are toxic and evil.

We do know, however, r270, that you constantly shriek about "talking points." Whenever I see that phrase, often preceded by "freeper" or "Repug" (neither of which I happen to be, fwiw), I imagine I'm reading a T.

I have never once used freeper or Repug in any post but you keep on making up your persecution fantasy.

What is "toxic and evil" are "puberty blockers" and drugs, brainwashing, hormones and surgeries on MINORS.

It's not a fantasy, r272. Your ilk doth persecute.

And just for the record freeper and Repug are a lot nicer than than the poisonous thing you call trans and anyone who calls you out on your spamming hysteria.

And yet here you are like some battered wife who can't get enough abuse, waiting to be persecuted more. But in this case I know you aren't here out of deluded sense of love so I'll assume you are just starved for attention or being paid by whatever treacherous group is trying to exploit this issue for political gain.

Crazy bs and lies at R276

The money is all backing T - Phama, govts and polticians, hijacked gay groups, foundations etc

There is no money supporting kids being harmed

I am a psychiatrist and I am INFURIATED that I am not allowed to treat people suffering from gender dysphoria.

I'm sure there are no shortage of quacks INFURIATED they are not allowed to treat people suffering from homosexuality too. Life is hard.

Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Science has well documented homosexuality in nature.

T has to bring in homosexuality, and bisexuality and intersex to confuse people as to what is being discussed.

This is about T

T politics is harming kids

T politics wants to take away women's rights

T politics wants to wipe out gay

And they have documented transgenderism in nature. But I'm sure with your vast expertise you already know that and have decided to ignore that.

The trans fake science. This is my favorite part.

There is no self-identification in nature. Humans cannot change their sexed bodies. You failed.

Can you post those talking points again? We haven't seen them before.

Maybe if you keep posting them for another six years, they will become mor persuasive, And don't forget to keep posting them as non sequiturs in every thread.

There she goes again with her "talking points."

R285, How many times can you say "talking points"? Do you think this sounds impressive?

That's what they are. Just repeated statements that you spam the site with.

I laughed when I saw someone on Twitter say:

SEAHORSES ARE HORSES! SEAHORSES ARE HORSES! SEAHORSES ARE HORSES! SEAHORSES ARE HORSES!

In the reddit above it is briefly explained why gender dysphoria is a mental disorder.

He says "spam" and "talking points" over and over

The entire trans propaganda is spam and talking points;

Transwomen are women. Transkids. The fake trans science. The use of G&L/women's rights/civil rights language to push T to make it sound "progressive". I just gotta pee! Nazi Terf. etc etc

The difference is their talking points aren't being spammed on DL annoying users of the site.

gender dysphoria

I wouldn't even use any of these terms.

Kids normally want to reject stereotypes and can be uncomfortable about their bodies especially in adolescence. Why medicalize it? And definitely why say this means they requite puberty blockers, hormones, surgery and be called another sex? Crazy and backward.

As far as adults, there are definitely underlying psychological issues - OCD, personality disorders, depression etc. Plus with some obviously autogynphiles - porn addiction, socialization issues etc.

Actually, if you read cases from transgender people and detransitioners, especially on Reddit many admit suffering from underlying disorders.

So I'm with r260, but the mention of "puberty blockers" made me remember a post from a now long-since-deleted (surprise) DL thread on a Lupr0n (stylized to attempt to avoid deletion) consent form from a canada children's gender clinic, which was horrifying. I looked it up and here it is, along with some choice excerpts:

[quote]When patients take Lupr0n Dep0t they need to have regular blood testing. This may involve a 45-minute(!) test with an IV(!).

[quote]There may be long-term side-effects of Lupr0n Dep0t that we do not yet know about.

[quote]The injections do cause some pain.

[quote]I am receiving treatment for gender dysphoria... I understand that, even though I think of myself as male, I am genetically, biologically and physically female. (DL NOTE: Can't believe they have this line in there. I'm sure more than one "patient" has accused the clinic of transphobia over this!)

Anyway, this is from bcCHILDRENS.ca

This is the "Male to Female" Reddit.

Do any of these men seem well-adjusted? One is threatening suicide as I type.

Do any of these men seem to want any of the reality of womanhood, or do they just want the external trappings? Almost all of them talk about nails, or hair, or voice training, or surgery.

How insulting to women.

These men are willingly becoming medical patients for life in pursuit of some sad, completely superficial version of what a man thinks is womanhood and we're not allowed to question their mental health?

And flooding a gay gossip site with hostility, conspiracy theories, perjorative name-calling are the best ways to help people with issues

I believe it, R294. That is what they need counselling for. Not encouragement to support an OCD delusion .

[quote]I am receiving treatment for gender dysphoria... I understand that, even though I think of myself as male, I am genetically, biologically and physically female. (DL NOTE: Can't believe they have this line in there. I'm sure more than one "patient" has accused the clinic of transphobia over this!)

This is the line that shows you that it is a total sham. They put that in there to legally protect themselves.

It's a fraud! They are claiming "gender dysphoria" is real, etc. But when it comes down to the fine print and signing consent...that is a comment that (oh PS this is all bs...because YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR SEX) . So why give painful injections and drugs with unknown side effects?

You are a loon. These are medical professionals not back alley abortionists.

"Loon" (another favorite word)

No credible medical professional supports this. And on top of it there are people buying hormones online etc

GP convicted of running transgender clinic for children without licence

There will be many stories in the future about the harm and shady business of those involved in this

"No credible medical professional supports this." You really typed that and expected people to just accept that. You really must be working for Trump's reelection. You certainly have his "alternative facts" part down pat.

Post at R302 makes no sense.

"Transwomen are women" is a HUGE alternative fact

Stop deflecting. Do you actually believe that statement?

Yeah, right. Can't take T = adore Trump. Yeah, right.

Are you going to keep deflecting instead of admitting you are a liar?

You are insane.

It is possible to not like Trump AND to not like shady "medical professionals" who are harming kids.

Of course you know this and it is YOU who are trying to deflect from the real harms being done to children and young people because of transgender ideology.

So you are going to keep avoiding answering whether you believe what you typed that "no credible medical professionals support this".

Lol r289

I believe 100% that no credible medical professional would support the transing of children be it psychological, or with puberty blockers, hormones, drugs or surgery. NONE! This is a major malpractice crime happening in our time.

You are one hot mess. Good luck in your campaign to persecute people who already have very difficult lives, the people who love them and the doctors who offer them options.

Are there any trans advocates for Chinese foot-binding?

For sheer industrial-strength batshit lunacy nothing quite beats the term "transtapo".

R312 which answer will get you to leave DL and post your screeds on Chinese gossip sites?

[quote]Good luck in your campaign to persecute people who already have very difficult lives, the people who love them and the doctors who offer them options.

What a twisting of words. Defending minors and children who are dragged into this, who are not truly consenting to the reality of drugs, hormones, surgery, social isolation and being "transgender" - when they are really kids normally fighting against stereotypes or want to play with the "wrong" toy is not a 'campaign to persecute people'. It is fighting for young people who are being harmed for no reason - the only reasons are homophobia, sexism, a fad, and someone making money. As far as "difficult lives" - they will have them because of this trans push, instead of being left alone to become themselves. The doctors are not "offering them options" - they are committing serious malpractice. The parents are not protecting their children - they are being led by sexism, homophobia and a media/trans push.

They push "chest binding," R312.

R315, they appeal to emotional blackmail because that’s all they got.

Forcing people to pretend that men are women is the epitome of “gaslighting.”

Who DOESN’T have a difficult life?

My late mom was physically handicapped & lived with pain every day of her life. And she NEVER complained about it.

[quote]As far as "difficult lives" - they will have them because of this trans push, [bold]instead of being left alone to become themselves.[/bold]

Possibly the most important thing to be said in 318 posts.

Buck Angel is now on a mission to educate young women being suckered into this fad about testosterone causing vaginal atrophy. But to avoid this, she's advocating for these young women to have HYSTERECTOMIES.

This is so far beyond crazy - to take out body parts of healthy young people, leaving them sterile and sexless.

And yet every single influential segment of society is pushing it - the media, the entertainment industry, the government, medicine, lgbT organizations

[quote]And yet every single influential segment of society is pushing it - the media, the entertainment industry, the government, medicine, lgbT organizations

Yes. I don't get it. Are they all stupid? (This is possible). Or is there some darker reason this is happening?

r311 well 47% of people who transition end up killing themselves so it looks like their lives aren't being made any less difficult.

Is that statistic true, r322?

If so, JUST BE GAY, PEOPLE!

Of course that statistic is a lie. These are propagandists. Just like "no credible medical professionals support this" and "trans are working 100 hours a week to undo gay rights". Then they wheel out their "we're saving children from abuse".

No child is being saved by flooding this gossip site with hyperbolic anecdotes about people going to jail for misgendering. Trans is the wedge to get us all to hate the HRC and Gladd. Trans is the wedge to get us to stop going to pride events and supporting our gay organization. Trans is the wedge to make you stop you from spending money with companies that support lgbtq causes.

And it's all about making your one vote the only participation you have in the political process. If they can isolate us from each other, from our organizations, from companies, from the Democratic Party, they can undermine their fundraising capability and campaign contributions that multiply our one votes into multiple votes.

If you are really gullible and you but their half-truths, false equivalencies that both parties are equally corrupt and dangerously homophobic, they can even exhaust you and make you cynical enough to not want to vote at all.

TRANS HEALTH MANIFESTO

Ben "gay ally" Shapiro tried to use the same bs 40% stat. androgynous his ass owned for misrepresenting the results of the UCLA study he claimed was the source for his stat.

* "and got" not androgynous

41 posts and this thread is the only one you posted to. You are not part of DL community.

Seek professional help, R324. Seriously.

This public library in Washington state is having a binder raffle and a drag show tomorrow as part of a PRIDE event for teens.

So women ditched corsets - what 100 years ago? Around the time they got the vote, but now Woko Haram is bringing something even worse back to encourage baby dykes to bind their breasts, ruining their health, in order to pretend to be a sad facsimile of a man.

AND A PUBLIC LIBRARY IS ENCOURAGING IT - breast binding in 2019 is being enabled by a public library.

Trans activists and transpeople, please explain detransitioners. People who felt gender dysphoria, felt like the other sex and suddenly their disphoria goes away.

Please address your questions to a site where there are trans activists and transgender people.

Thank you The management

Why is homosexuality seen as valid deviation and Gender Dysphoria seen as a mental illness?

How are things in Missouri with abortion rights? Alabama? Georgia? What kind of work are you doing right now to protect women's lives and rights in those states?

How about at the border? Women and children are being tortured, held in unsanitary freezing cells, denied soap, food, adequate clothing, blankets, medical care for their sick children, etc.

You've obsessed on trannies for years and failed to accomplish anything but allying yourselves with the extremist right wing fascists in this country. How about you do something that actually helps women for a change? All you ever do now is bitch and moan on a gay men's website to no avail. Do something useful, something that means something, something important for women. They desperately need help and all you do is waste your time whining about trannies. Shame on you.

R335, it's a seamless fight. If you think there is nothing wrong with diminishing women and attacking women because they are trying to safeguard themselves and young girls as well as safeguard children from extremists - on the right AND the left - then you just don't get it.

Rather than the concerns of women being taken seriously, they are ridiculed and trigger people to verbally and physically assault them and de-platform them. You are enabling those who want to silence women once again.

No one will listen to women about other issues that affect them - and ONLY them - if there is a segment that is hell bent on silencing women.

R336, what are you doing today to help women on the border?

What are you doing today to help women in Missouri?

What are you doing today to help women in Alabama?

What are you doing today to help women in Georgia?

What are you actually DOING to help women in desperate circumstances today?

If the answer is nothing, you're doing nothing to help these women in need, then the deep shame and sense of total inadequacy you feel is warranted.

R336, sorry but you're barking up the wrong tree when you try to attack me with suggestions I have done or currently do nothing to help women. My professional career has been devoted almost exclusively to women's rights and the constitutional rights of the accused particularly the indigent.

But here you are trying to undermine a woman pointing out the issues. My post sailed right over your head.

R338 is me at R336. I meant to address R338 to R337, the faker trying to shame women who speak up.

The faker who is trying to shame women and silence women by trying to change the subject. As if the faker is doing anything for women. No - he supports women losing their rights.

PS: Men are not women. Ever.

Will the transphobic lunatic [bold]STOP CHANGING YOUR FUCKING IP ADDRESS.[/bold]

Bloody sick of having to block you over and over.

Shit.

Speak up for women! Speak up for children! DO something.

Women's rights are under attack! Speak up for women!

DO something.

Women are under attack! Fight for them now!

DO something.

Women are losing the fight for their rights in Georgia! Fight for them!

DO something.

Like most in the Alphabet Soup, R341, hates actual gay people.

Ah, yes, conservatives, the great defenders of children, gay people, and the down-trodden everywhere.

You'd have to be nuts to believe this "concern" from right wingers is purely out of love for children, let alone actual gay children or any gay person of any age.

I am so tired of the T lies such as pretending that anyone who questions their bs is conservative, alt-right etc. Quite the opposite.

The T is an ideology bent on destroying women's and gay rights. That is extreme right-wing.

You have to read this to believe it - or if you just need a few hearty chuckles

The Edinburgh Action for Trans Health has produced a " TRANS HEALTH MANIFESTO" of demands of the NHS (UK's National Health Service) - HA HA HA HA HA

[quote] We recognise that the history of trans medicine is a history of colonial and fascist abuse. We see the history of eugenicist experimentation from Nazi concentration camps, to the colonial implentation of the West’s regime of the gender binary, to virginity tests for South Asian and other Women of Colour in the UK in the 1970s; from the sterilisation & birth control trials forced on the women of Puerto Rico, to the thousands of Black and brown people who have died on NHS psychiatric wards; from the denial of the reproductive rights of disabled people, to the denial of access to abortions to people in the North of Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, past and present. We see the continued manifestation of eugenicist medicine in the denial of our bodily autonomy as trans people today: from coercive surgeries on intersex infants, to forced sterilisation in parts of europe, policing of and misinformation regarding our sexual reproduction, to gatekeeping of surgeries and medicines.

[quote] We demand nothing less than the total abolition of the clinic, of psychiatry, and of the medical-industrial complex. We demand an end to capitalist & colonialist “medicine”. We demand hormones & blockers are made available over-the-counter and by free prescription upon request. We need free, universal access to safe hormones & blockers at any age, the opportunity to decide our own doses, and universally accessible information on the safety & efficacy of different regimens.

1,000,000 WWs for r348.

What are you DOING for women at serious risk in America today?

There is a real War on Women in America today. It isn't being waged by goddamn fucking trannies.

How are you fighting for women's right to reproductive freedom? How are you protecting women on the border where they are being tortured and abused?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR WOMEN TODAY?

[quote]I just learned this recently, but when trans men have "top surgery" (to remove/flatten their chests) it's EXTREMELY common for their nipples to fall off. Is it because they have to sever all the nerves? No idea, but that seems pretty metal to me.

There is such a thing as nipple-sparing mastectomy but the problem with this is preserving an adequate blood supply-- without this the nipples turn necrotic. I had a bilateral mastectomy but was not a candidate for nipple-sparing surgery due to the location of my cancer so I had to have all the breast tissue removed.

I feel so frustrated when I read accounts of healthy young women, especially teenagers, having mastectomies after falling under the spell of this pernicious gender identity madness. I can only assume that they are not being informed of the possible long-term effects of surgery. I was left with permanent lack of sensation in my chest and parts of my upper back. The psychological effects have also been difficult to deal with, yet I consider myself fortunate-- fortunate to have an excellent surgical oncologist plus a brilliant plastic surgeon to do reconstruction. Not everyone has access to highly skilled specialists and outcomes reflects this disparity.

Finally, a mastectomy is major surgery with all the potential risks that typically entails followed by a recovery period that is by no means easy. IMO no one should be subjecting themselves to this procedure for any other reason than to save their lives from an invasive lethal disease.

[quote] I feel so frustrated when I read accounts of healthy young women, especially teenagers, having mastectomies... blah blah blah paternalist blah blah blah

Tell it to tit-cutter-extraordinaire, Angie Jo, you overbearing, helicoptering, invasive twat.

These women have sovereignty and control over their own bodies. It is not your place to control them. It is not your place to tell them what to do with their bodies. It is not your place to interfere in their autonomy as human beings. You are not everybody's fucking mother, they don't need you, they don't want you, it's none of your business.

Women are under attack. Women are being abused on our border. Women's rights are being taken away RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE and all you can do is paternalistically bitch about women you don't know and who didn't ask for your judgment. Like it's your job to choose what they do with their own bodies.

You are a crazy old cunt and you are useless to women in the world today. You're living in some kind of fog where you imagine it's appropriate for you to tell other women how to live their lives. Fuck off and die.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR WOMEN WHO ARE UNDER ATTACK AT THE BORDER TODAY?

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO FIGHT FOR WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS TODAY?

StonewallUK has arbitrarilly and homophobically redefined the definition for homosexuality without the consent of homosexual people, ignoring our nature by wrongly stating homosexuality is the attraction to the same gender. We are not attracted to gender; we are attracted to the same sex, biological reality.

It's practices like this from trans activism that has caused people to have apprehensions towards transgender. We are being dragged into a delusion that infringes our nature as homosexual people.

I know plenty of people whose homosexual nature hasn't been infringed one bit.

Silly cunts.

Watch R356

Sexual orientation is not a bias.

[quote] I think it had more to do with subconsciously figuring out gender roles before I knew I was gay and what gay really was. - r5

I was a teenager in the 70's and as a bi guy it took me until college to figure out what my attraction to other guys was all about since I was comfortable having sex with women. Once I realized what being gay was I started having relationships with men almost exclusively. Maybe a tiny fraction of children are going to even know what boy and girl means when they are little. It is grossly irresponsible to transition a child.

Please provide a link to mainstream evidence of a pre-pubescent child who has been surgically transitioned.

TIA!

Being able to see the W&Ws is very enlightening on threads such as these.

Oh god, are we now going to have pathetic twits who go around touting their "W&Ws" as evidence of some kind of approval one-upsmanship?

Oh you poor things. Here, have an amusing TERF video.

I don't have any "W&Ws" on this thread because my first post was at r369, r361.

And that's not even what my post implied.

^ r360 not r369

What actually concerns people who care about women right now:

r331 That is sickening. Binders do damage and aren't a joke. They're giving them out like bracelets or tote bags??

r365 I posted this on another thread, but I know a woman at work. Mid-20s. Obviously a lesbian (she's out). Nice but clearly socially awkward. Has probably had issues fitting in her whole life.

Last year, she had "gender-confirming surgery" (a mastectomy). In her 20s. It just seems so wrong to me.

10 or even 5 years ago, she would have been a butch lesbian and that would have been the end of it.

Apropos of nothing, I just read on someone's Twitter bio: "Pronouns: he/she/they"

To quote Helen Mirren in The Comfort of Strangers: We are on the other side of the mirror.

Scottish teen kicked out of class and then suspended for saying there are only two genders (meaning biological sex).

"I know what the authority thinks"

People were comparing this clip with 1984 : '“How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?' 'Four.' 'And if the party says that it is not four but five—then how many?"

r368 Obviously the student is a neophyte in the Gender Wars, confusing sex and gender like he was. If you want to play in the big leagues you have to be solid on the terminology, or else the other side self-declares a technical victory and invalidates anything you have to say.

[quote]Science tells us external genitalia doesn't necessarily match internal sexual orientation.

The new scientific method : shouting loudly and long enough so that anyone with common sense just gives up and agrees with you so that you'll shut the fuck up.

Detransitioners.

JK Rowling is now following Magdalen Berns!

I hope the detransitioners find strength and support from one another in their (sadly) rapidly growing community. I hope they use the pants off the doctors and psychologists who transed them.

At the bare minimum, it astonishes me that there appears to be no protocol in place to collect sperm or ovaries for cryogenic preservation before sterilization surgeries. It should be absolutely unlawful to remove the gonads of a physically healthy young male without first preserving sperm samples in the event that he one day may wish to father biological children. I say this as someone who has chosen not to have children and who is deeply worried about human overpopulation. It is criminal to take away a young person's (often gay young people's) right to choose to have children.

If the young man quoted In r373's link had had his sperm frozen, he could at least have the satisfaction of knowing that he's not de facto sterile, and can still presumably have testicular implants and [lifelong] testosterone injections to approximately make up for what was taken from him.

I wish these young people all the strength and courage they need to thrive and I sincerely hope they strike back at the elements of the medical community who were complicit in transing them. Protect future children from the same tragedy!

Titania

Are you paying attention?

Fighting people like you R376 who wants to shut down discussion is doing something.

Some posters on here seem to have co opted the 1980s "Traditional Values Coalition Special Report Vol. 18 #11" just like Greg Gutfield has.

Just take out the word "homosexual" & replace it with "transsexual".

Most of the anti-trans members in our community don't have Dr. Virigina Uribe as a role model. It's a shame. She passed away several months ago.

If ever Hollywood needed to make a movie about an unsung heroine...

(Maybe Martina & Billie Jean will help fund it)

Transgender is an anti-gay ideology.

Poor R323 isn't going to like hearing about this thread =

R359, just look at Jazz Jennings.

Because they blocked his natural hormone development, his penis did not fully form.

It basically castrated him. He will never be able to have kids.

Why can’t people see how wrong it is to sterilize children? They’re too young to consent to that.

Just leave them alone. Let them play with & wear whatever they want. They may grow out of it anyway. It’s a waste of time & money since it’s impossible to change sex.

Do you think LGBT organisations have basically been hijacked and are run by autogynephiles today? Many people seem to think this way.

GLAAD is co-chaired by an autogynephile.

The Elephant In The Room.

"For autogynephiles, the LGBT community is therefore viewed as a prop to achieve a sexual fantasy."

Yes, r382.

T is a Trojan horse...destroying us from within.

Quite effectively, too. I’ve never seen a more powerful & successful “minority” class before.

Women, gays & blacks are still trying to get a seat at the table. The Ts own the table now.

R385 You're obviously not talking about the US military table now are you?

I he were taller I'd blow him and drink all the fkin nut.

The Problem with Gender Identity Policies Explained by a 6th Grader

The military supports T, R386.

Of course, PinkNews's homophobia at lesbian Magdalen Berns.

There is something supremely creepy about Rowling being stalked by Trans advocates. Magdalen Burns has guts and smarts.

I couldn't see closely enough to read. Is Magdalen Burns good or bad? And does she pronounce her name "Maudlin"?

Watch her on Youtube. She stands up for women's and homosexual people's rights and criticises trans activism.

What is it with so many tranzes in the military? So many of them crave the right to kill people legally.

It's interesting to read transgender people acknowledging gender dysphoria as a mental disorder. I have found a few on Quora.