Canadian Poll: Conservative Fortunes Waning as Liberal Fortunes Rise

Trudeau really is awash in scandal. But NO ONE want's that lard Scheer as their PM. People see him as deplorable. If Trudeau doesn't have further scandals, he will win

Also interesting to see the Greens overtaking the NDP in some of these new polls.

There's no guarantee that will last until the Election, but it's a warning sign for the NDP & Singh.

Everyone I know that is tired of Trudeau's BS is avoiding the NDP purely cause of singh. hopefully a minority gov wins it, idec which one leads

CTV News:

BREAKING: The House of Commons has just passed a motion declaring that Canada is experiencing a climate change emergency. It passed with support from the Liberals, NDP, Greens, and Bloc. Conservatives and Bernier voted against.

No pipeline for BC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New NANOS poll:

June 18, 2019

Conservatives (34)

Liberals (30)

NDP (17)

Green (11)

People’s Party (1)

Scheer needs to detach the CPC from all persons and agencies who were involved with campaigns for UKIP, Brexit, and Trump, and to cut ties with Rebel Media. The percentage of Canadians who are blind to what's going on with the US and the UK is smaller than the percentage of Republican stalwart voters in the US because there's no FOX News and because healthcare is closer to affordable, so the untreated-for-mental-illness percentage is lower too.

I imagine Maxime Bernier's PPC will make inroads among the xenophobic nationalists who want changes made to immigration policy but don't want a PM as beholden to known alt-right agencies. How's Scheer going to retain them? "Trump's not that bad, he's only misunderstood! Dear Mr. Putin's reputation is being smeared by left-wing media"?

Thats the thing, there is no one who supports fiscal conservativism completely divorced from bigotry anymore, certainly not enough to form a government.

There are maybe 10% of voters who actually want the government to spend less money and offer less services. But they want to win so they swell the ranks with deplorables. But everyone else, even moderates HATE deplorables.

Trudeau will form a minority government with support from the Greens and NDP on issues as needed. I'm calling it now. And Conservatives will shit themselves in rage even though the right now controls 4 provinces with majority governments and another 2 with minority governments, and that will stay the same after the Federal election.

I'm fine with your prediction, r10. I'm happy to see the Greens taking seats, although Jagmeet Singh might not like whose seats are being won. It's too bad the overlap between Green platform and CPC platform is non-existent.

Poor Canada. They’re not going to get to join the despot cabal before it comes crashing down.

If only we could have been so lucky.

Justin Trudeau has recruited Quebec environmentalist Steven Guilbeault to run for the Liberals as a star candidate in Montreal.

They will make an announcement on Friday:

Renata Ford (Rob Ford's widow) will be running for Maxime Bernier's People's Party in Etobicoke.

Could take votes away from the Conservatives. Probably a way to get back at Doug for the fight they're having over Rob's estate.

A new Nanos poll today shows the Liberals tying the Conservatives:

Nanos Weekly Tracking (ending June 21, 2019)

Conservatives (33)

Liberals (33)

NDP (17)

Green (10)

People’s (1)

Forum Research - (QUEBEC ONLY)

Liberals lead in Québec

(June 2019)

32% LIBERAL

25% CONSERVATIVE

18% BQ

10% GREEN

9% NDP

4% PEOPLE'S PARTY

It's funny how our blue and red are the opposite of that in the States.

[quote]Liberals lead in Québec

No one wants Scheer as PM. He's unnapealing on every level. Conservatives screwed themselves by elevating him

R19, Scheer is creepy, but Bernier would have been worse for them.

Former Conservative Prime Mnister Kim Campbell rips Scheer's climate plan:

Jun 25, 2019

R14 that riding was never in serious contention for the Conservatives. The Liberal MP is very well liked and even won in 2011 when the Libs were at their lowest.

I feel whoever upthread is predicting a Lib. minority government is correct. The Libs will most definitely lose seats in the west, but the Ford catastrophe in Ont will help them out.

Another blow to Ford today:

Ontario Court of Appeal rules against the Ford Government's challenge of the Federal carbon tax:

[quote]Ontario's top court has ruled that the federal carbon price law is constitutional. Canada can legislate a mandatory carbon price under the "national concern" provision of the constitution, the court says. Full ruling here:

Doug Ford loses carbon tax court battle with Trudeau

R22, yes, here's Dr. Kirsty Duncan, the Liberal MP for Etobicoke North.

She's with Yvan Baker, the cute Liberal candidate running next door in Etobicoke Centre:

New EKOS poll, June 29:

Conservatives (34.1%)

Liberals (31.6%)

Green (12.6%)

NDP (9.7%)

People's Party (5.7%)

Bloc Quebecois (3.8%)

All countries are swinging to the Right.

R28, some of the European and Scandinavian countries have recently elected left-wing governments.

And although the Cons lead in Canada, you can see that it's outweighed by the non-Conservative vote.

That doesn’t matter, r29. In fact, it’s a negative as it causes vote splitting.

These polls don’t mean much right now. Four months is a long time in politics.

Were I advising Scheer, I would tell him to focus on Ontario and BC’s lower mainland. That’s where the election will be won.

Quebec is also important, R30.

There aren't any Neo-Nazis in Quebec.

I agree Québec is important r31, but it won’t vote Conservative

R32, you’re mistaken. Québec is just as racist as all other provinces. Parizeau’s comment on the “ethnic vote” didn’t come from thin air.

Yeah, there are some Québec separatists who are very xenophobic. But not all Quebecers are like that.

Remember that Quebec voted NDP in 2011 and Liberal in 2015.

It is also one of the most pro-gay places in North America.

A big contrast with Alberta which just elected right-wing self-loathing gay man Jason Kenney.

Alberta is not homophobic, and Kenney’s sexuality played no role in his election.

I have lived in Montreal. I think Québec is more xenophobic than Alberta.

[quote]Alberta is not homophobic

Read up on the Vriend case. Alberta fought the courts for years to prevent sexual orientation being made a prohibited ground of discrimination.

And can you name any openly gay MPs from Alberta? And why is Kenney still in the closet?

NEW Nanos Poll shows Liberals regaining the lead:

Liberals 35

Conservatives 32

NDP 17

Greens 10

Full Nanos poll showing Liberals overtaking Conservatives:

R36, I researched the Vriend case. I suspect I know more about it than you ever will. But the employer’s position didn’t have widespread support. At the same time, as Vriend was making its way through the courts, the Feds were denying gays equal rights, and most provinces did not have equality provisions for gays included in legislation.

Jason Kenney is a practicing Catholic. AFAIK, he doesn’t have a partner, so how are you 100% certain he’s gay? Maybe he’s asexual. But, I doubt his sexuality has anything to do with Alberta.

Randy Boissonnault, MP for Edmonton Centre, is openly gay.

Michael Phair and Sherry McKibbem we’re both openly gay city councilors in Edmonton, elected before the Vriend decision.

*McKibben

[quote]Randy Boissonnault, MP for Edmonton Centre, is openly gay.

Liberal MP, and in danger of losing his seat.

Not because he’s gay, though. It’s because of Trudeau’s perceived anti Alberta policies.

What you're overlooking is that there's not a single openly-gay Conservative MP in Canada.

And some of that stems from the anti-gay conservative base in Alberta and elsewhere.

Scott Brison was first elected as a Conservative. He wasn’t out, but it was widely known in his riding.

The reality is, that for the most part, no one cares about Canadian politicians’ private lives.

R44, you've got to stop making excuses for the Cons.

Scott Brison said the whole reason he quit the Conservatives and joined the Liberals is because Harper didn't want him to come out. So it IS an issue for the Conservatives.

If it's not an issue, why are there no openly-gay Conservative MPs? There are openly gay Liberal, NDP & Bloc MPs. But never any in the Conservatives.

Anyway, getting back to the big story of the day:

Nanos Has Liberals Back on Top

R35 is Jason Kenney.

R39 I suggest you read the Canadian gossip thread, in particular comment #64

Pollster Nik Nanos on CTV today discussing the new poll showing the Liberals ahead:

R45, Brison came out the year before he left the Conservative Party. He left in 2003. Harper wasn’t elected leader of the merged party until 2004.

R50, true. Brison came out in 2002, and left the Conservatives at the end of 2003 to join the Liberals.

He was a member of the old Progressive Conservative party. He didn't join the more right-wing party that formed in 2003/2004.

But Brison has said that one of the things he was told by Stephen Harper before he left is that Harper did not want to support gay marriage and wanted to appeal to the socially conservative base.

New Abacus Poll:

Preferred PM:

Justin Trudeau (35%)

Andrew Scheer (31%)

Elizabeth May (14%)

Jagmeet Singh (13%)

Maxime Bernier (7%)

New Nanos poll today shows another drop in Conservative support:

Liberals (35%)

Conservatives (30%)

NDP (18%)

Greens (9%)

BQ (5%)

People's (2%)

It looks like the Conservatives & the Greens have lost support, and the NDP has begun to recover.

It will be interesting to see whether the Liberal lead continues into the election:

Nanos Weekly Tracker

Liberals (35%) +4

Conservatives (30%) -4

NDP (18%) +1

Greens (9%) -2

BQ (5%) +1

People's (2%) +1

So far, Justin Trudeau (if barely) is my preferred leader (would be fun to see Singh flail around), with NDP getting my vote, depending on riding situation. The current Conservatives can suck my dick.

Another pollster shows the Liberals overtaking the Conservatives:

Mainstreet:

Liberals (35)

Conservatives (33)

NDP (10)

Greens (10)

People's (5)

Bloc (5)

Toronto Poll:

Liberals: 46%

Conservatives: 26%

NDP: 12%

Greens: 10%

People's Party: 4%

(Forum Research / July 9th / 1143 Respondents / MOE 3% / IVR)

Jul 14, 2019

New seat projections from Maclean's show a tie between the Liberals & Conservatives.

Ford's unpopularity in Ontario has caused the drop in Conservative support

Conservatives (148 seats)

Liberals (147 seats)

NDP (23 seats)

BQ (14 seats)

Greens (5 seats)

Independent (1 seat)

People's Party (0 seats)

July 15, 2019

Campaign Research poll:

Liberals surpass the Conservatives for the first time in a year

Conservatives and Scheer falling behind in Ontario

(behind a paywall, but numbers expected to be released soon):

A 7-point lead in Ontario over the Conservatives translates into a slim lead for the Liberals nationally according to a Campaign Research poll:

Liberals: 33

Conservatives: 32

NDP: 14

Greens: 14

New Nanos Poll out tonight shows Liberal lead widening:

Liberals: 35.9%

Conservatives: 29.7%

NDP: 18.5%

Greens: 8.3%

BQ: 4.8%

People's Party: 1.5%

PREFERRED PRIME MINISTER -- NANOS

Trudeau (33)

Scheer (23)

Singh (9)

May (8)

Bernier (2)

Is there an average of polls in Canada like Nate Silver does?

Majority of Canadians want change in Ottawa, 37% say they’d vote Conservative: Ipsos

A majority of Canadians say they want change in Ottawa, with 37 per cent saying they’d vote Conservative if a federal election were held tomorrow, according to an Ipsos poll.

The poll also showed Conservative leader Andrew Scheer picking up the approval of 36 per cent of respondents, compared to Justin Trudeau‘s 32 per cent.

Scheer was the preferred choice of women (35 per cent) and respondents aged 55 years and over (45 per cent), as well as people whose education had reached a high school level (41 per cent) or who had obtained a diploma (35 per cent).

The latest numbers are “good news for the Tories; bad news for the Liberals,” Sean Simpson, vice-president at Ipsos, told Global News.

“Particularly concerning for the prime minister is that more Canadians believe that someone still relatively unknown — Andrew Scheer — would make the better prime minister.”

Again - Most Canadians believe that an UNKNOWN - Andrew Scheer - would make a better Prime Minister

[quote] Is there an average of polls in Canada like Nate Silver does?

There is the CBC Poll Tracker, but the guy who runs it is NO Nate Silver

Andrew Scheer - he just isn't ready.

R65, Ipsos leans Conservative, so if Trudeau is behind by 4 points in that poll it probably means he's ahead.

I'll be lightly predicting a Liberal minority government. Sure it could go the other way, but there's too many cases of Conservatives in elections here fucking it up (not as often as NDP but still).

I find the poll at R65 unbelievable - simply because of Doug Ford popularity. There have been a string of polls showing Ford at rock bottom support, coupled with Ontario saying they won't vote Scheer because of Ford.

So to go from those polls (which are multiple) to this poll at R65 showing the Conservatives AHEAD in Ontario, that just doesn't ring true.

R70 before the last election I was called by Ipsos for a poll on the election.

When I answered the first question--who will you be voting for in the upcoming election--as Liberal, the person thanked me and hung up.

I'm sure if I had said CPC, the poll questions would have continued.

Thanks for the info, R71.

Ipsos is run by Darrell Bricker who has been a conservative since he was a young man. Started out working for Conservative PM Brian Mulroney.

Trudeau will win again, thank god.

What do you do if you want to vote for Trudeau for prime minister, but you hate the Liberal MP of your district? The problem with indirect voting.

R74, that's the Parliamentary system. But voting for a Liberal MP, even if you don't like him/her, helps Trudeau beat the Conservatives. Which riding are you in?

R73, could you re-post your photo link? It's not showing up.

Bloomberg News:

Economic Rebound Gives Trudeau Momentum Ahead of Fall Election

July 18, 2019

> Liberal leader pulls ahead of Conservative rival on economy

> Pollster pins shift among women on Pence and abortion debate

EKOS Poll / July 19, 2019

LIBERALS: 33.6% (+2.9)

CONSERVATIVES: 31.3% (-1)

NDP: 12.5% (+1.7)

GREEN: 12.5% (-2.4)

PEOPLE'S PARTY: 4.8%

BQ: 3.1%

Liberals & Conservatives deadlocked

New Abacus Poll

July 22, 2019

32% LIBERAL

32% CONSERVATIVE

16% NDP

11% GREEN

4% BQ

3% PEOPLE'S

(Jul. 12-17, 1,500 surveyed online)

There's some new anti-Justin stuff going around that isn't even true. It's some Muslim guy speaking about Sharia Law being implemented in Canada, but it's taken completely out of context. It was from during the Harper years when there was talk about implementing alternatives to court that were based on Islamic teachings or something - it had to do mainly with divorce or family law or something. At any rate, it got rejected as a plan, but that was several years ago. Cut to today where some right-wing nutjob is using this video to convince the Con base and fence sitters that Justin is threatening to bring Sharia Law to Canada. It's being shared and liked thousands of times by yellow vest idiots, as if it was true. That's what we're dealing with, now. Low information voters who willingly choose to be low information.

New poll from Research Co.

34% LIBERAL

31% CONSERVATIVE

17% NDP

10% GREEN

4% BQ

3% PEOPLE'S PARTY

(Jul. 15-17, 1,000 surveyed online)

Wednesday, 24 July 2019

Three New Polls Show Liberals in the Lead or Tied for 1st Place

So long, Tory lead

This week’s projection shows no favourite, but the trend is clear: the Conservatives’ advantage has faded into the distance

Jul 28, 2019

I'll vote for the person/party most likely to keep American/Trumpian-style fuckery out of this country. The kind of thing R80 is talking about. That virus has to be kept out of Canada and those pushing it punished. So the Liberals get my vote this time.

Trump is the biggest reason why Liberals in Canada will win. They see the shit show South of the border and would rather not follow suit.

Justin is lucky he came up in the age of Trump. His popularity has taken a hit, but the alternative would be something similar to Trump.

I think what's helping is the waning popularity of Doug Ford, plus the fact that Scheer comes across as an idiot. He was speaking to a bunch of dairy farmers a couple weeks ago, going on about how the Liberals failed to consult industry in developing the new Food Guide. He said it because dairy doesn't figure prominently in the new Guide. It's not enough that he pandered to the crowd by promising he'd scrap the revamped Guide and consult industry on a new one, but he went on about how chocolate milk saved his kid's life because, as parents, they couldn't get him to eat or drink anything but good old chocolate milk. He had to press it further by saying no one could tell him chocolate milk wasn't healthy. I'm like, for real? I think even a crowd of dairy producers would have a hard time thinking they could sell sugary chocolate milk as a healthy choice, particularly with our increasing rates of diabetes and childhood obesity. It truly sounded something like what Trump would say.

The funny thing is, chocolate milk is white milk that is past it's sell by date and is reprocessed into chocolate milk.

Deepak Obhrai, longest-serving Conservative MP in the House, has suddenly died of Stage 4 cancer:

Latest seat projection:

August 4th, 2019

Liberal 152

Conservative 146

NDP 22

BQ 12

Greens 6

Trudeau Liberals lead by 13 points in QUEBEC:

Preferred Prime Minister (Nanos)

TRUDEAU - 34

SCHEER - 24

MAY - 9

SINGH - 6

BERNIER -

NANOS (August 2019)

LIBERAL - 36.7

CONSERVATIVE - 30.8

NDP - 16.1

GREEN - 9.3

PEOPLE'S - 1.4

^I was part of that poll!

R94, the Nanos poll? What questions did they ask you?

New poll from Innovative Research:

LIBERAL: 36%

CONSERVATIVE: 32%

NDP: 14%

GREEN: 10%

PEOPLE'S: 4%

BQ: 4%

New ABACUS poll:

CONSERVATIVE 33%

LIBERAL 32%

NDP 17%

GREEN 10%

BQ 4%

PEOPLE'S 3%

**

ABACUS pollster David Coletto says strong numbers in Quebec & Ontario could give the Liberals the win in seat count.

Trudeau leads Scheer by 6 as Preferred PM.

The Tories’ nagging problem

The race remains deadlocked, with Andrew Scheer’s ongoing slide in Ontario clouding the Conservatives’ chances

by Philippe J. Fournier

Aug 11, 2019

SEAT PROJECTIONS

LIBERAL 155

CONSERVATIVE 145

NDP 20

BQ 12

GREEN 6

Now that the Ethics Commissioner has ruled that Justin was bad for being a meanie to that fat cow JRW, I wonder how his numbers will drop.

I was told yesterday the Conservatives internal polling show public feeling about Ford is now intensely negative and has solidified and that there are plans afoot within the party to force him out in time to fight the next election with a new (and presumably more centrist) leader.

Ha ha where is that Canadi-bitch who kept posting that Trudeau is doomed????

Posting [italic]merde[/italic] elsewhere. By "Canadi-bitch" which do you mean: paid Rebel Media troll or delusional, puck-to-the-brain Prairie dog with keyboard?

Throw Trudeau in jail. He's such a corrupt dirtbag.

Ipsos, (a Conservative-leaning pollster), says today that the SNC-Lavelin controversy doesn't seem to have hurt Trudeau.

Still a close race:

Nanos: August 20, 2019

Trudeau widens his lead over Scheer in Preferred Prime Minister weekly tracking poll

Trudeau: 31.8%

Unsure: 24.1%

Scheer: 23.9%

May: 8.4%

Singh: 7.5%

Some very good news for Trudeau out today.

[quote]Canada’s economy grew by 0.9% in the second quarter of the year, stronger than expected. GDP figures just released show that growth accelerated strongly in April-June, following just 0.1% growth in both the previous two quarters. This is the fastest quarterly growth in two years.

[quote]Exports of goods rose 3.7% in the second quarter, following declines in previous two quarters. The increase was led by energy products, which grew 5.9% after a 3.0% decline in the first quarter. Exports of services rose 1.1%, maintaining the pace of the previous quarter. Import volumes declined 1.0%.

The new Leger and Ekos polls released this weekend both have the Liberals back in the lead.

Liberals lead the Conservatives in Quebec, Ontario & Atlantic Canada, and doing well in British Columbia.

Seat projections by CBC and Maclean's/338 both have the Liberals ahead, as well.

NDP sinking.

Nanos numbers released on CTV Power Play today:

LIBERALS 35.4

CONSERVATIVES 31.3

NDP 15.7

GREEN 10.3

PEOPLES PARTY 1.6

Suck it, Andy!

There's certainly been a shift towards the Liberals over the past couple weeks, as picked up by the new polls above.

The only question now is whether the lead will hold until Election Day on October 21.

I can't see why it wouldn't hold, R110. It seems unlikely Scheer is going to muscle the charm, talent and platform to sweep the country off its feet. Other than Justin saying something incredibly stupid - a distinct possibility - I don't see how the dynamic changes. The NDP is in disarray but the odds of it ever forming a government are very low and likely always will be, barring a party merger with the Liberals.

Yeah, R111, it's just a question now of how the leaders' debates go, and how they each come across.

Plus the next 5-6 weeks of the campaign trail and who resonates best with voters on the issues.

^ there are definite risk points, but low risk, I'd say. Trudeau's really the only one anybody knows of the three leaders and there's a fair amount of leeriness on the part of the electorate, I think, when it comes to the western Conservatives leading the Conservatives. As long as he acts with some more maturity and a bit of humility, he can get it past the post, serve a second term and get out.

I don't see Canada as actually a terribly liberal country - though it is easy to pretend that when you add the Liberal vote and the NDP vote. But I think that misconstrues the moderation of many Liberals or people who aren't party affiliated but vote Liberal. I would have to think long and hard about voting Liberal if there was a merger with the NDP. I think many people would when you consider the voting patterns.

I've noticed that JT's been a little low-key, as of late. I'm guessing that's a party tactic to keep him from saying something stupid in public. I haven't even noticed any Liberal ads on TV. Just Scheer promising to reward people with children, which means making people without children pay for it.

Doug Ford must be spitting shit right now. He really believed he was going to decide who the next PM would be.

Yeah, Ford has become very unpopular and has tanked the Conservative numbers in Ontario.

Scheer must be furious.

I believe that to be true. I was talking to a pollster the other day who said Ford's numbers are so abysmal - and entrenched - that there's a quiet movement gathering steam to depose him before the next election... I think that's like three years away?

The worst thing that can happen to a politician - outside stealing or being caught expressing contempt for voters (Hillary) is to be deemed not up to the job.

There's also a family feud still going in within the Ford family.

There's a multi-million lawsuit working its way through the Ontario courts. Rob Ford's widow, Renata, sued Doug and says he spent huge amounts of the inheritance that should have gone to her & Rob's kids.

And to get back at the Conservatives, Renata Ford is running for the People's Party (for Maxime Bernier) in Etobicoke to split the right-wing vote and re-elect the Liberal MP.

Innovative Research Group

September 9th, 2019

"The key finding is that, with the NDP in the doldrums, the Liberals are in a strong position coming into the race. Not only have they cemented their hold on last elections core seats, but they may also be able to gain seats to offsets the losses they will likely experience in the Toronto and Vancouver suburbs and Atlantic Canada. But campaigns matter, so we will repeat this analysis at least one more time in the campaign."

34% CONSERVATIVE

33% LIBERAL

13% NDP

11% GREEN

5% BQ

5% PEOPLE'S PARTY

Liberals have room to breathe in latest national poll, while NDP tumble to fourth

Mainstreet poll:

LIBERAL (37.5)

CONSERVATIVE (34)

GREEN (11)

NDP (8)

PEOPLE'S (5)

BQ (4)

I TOLD you people no one in all of Canada actually wants Scheer. He is disgusting, politically and physically.

Canadians are many things, but they aren't deplorables. Scheer's platform never had a chance

R121 forgot the Harper era.

Harper won because the vote was split between the NDP and the Liberals.

My favorite Harperism was when he said two consecutive minority govts make a majority.

I loved that he was defeated by the son of the man he has spent his life hating.

Current Projection Map from 338:

It'll be a tight race, R124.

Yes, the Conservatives shouldn't be underestimated, although at the moment the Liberals have the lead in seats because of strong numbers in Quebec.

Exactly, R126. I don't want to get too confidant yet.

[quote]Exactly, [R126]. I don't want to get too confidant yet.

Oh, dear.

Election sign from Justin Trudeau's electoral district:

Showing off one of their best assets. Trudeau's looks

I heard the Liberals slipped in the polls again. True?

Nice try, troll @R131, but Conservatives are two points behind Liberals as of this afternoon (5pm) when I saw the latest poll. Plus, in terms of who Canadians would prefer as the PM, the gap between Trudeau and Scheer is much wider (35% vs 25%)

Plus, the latest thing that's breaking is this one, only revealing what we already know: Scheer has ties to Rebel Media i.e. alt-right neonazis

According to CBC's Eric Grenier, R131, it's very close, but the Liberals have gained 0.1% since the previous report.

What's interesting, despite the close race by percentage, is the likelihood of forming a majority government. Currently, it stands at 43% for the Liberals and 8% for the Conservatives.

Now THAT is good news, if the trend continues.

R131 may have been asking an honest question since there are a lot of different polls coming out.

It was good that Andrew Scheer was called out today by the press for having a candidate who is friends with right-wing nut Faith Goldy.

Woof R129 All these years later and I can still be blown away by how handsome Trudeau is

You can't ask anything that suggests anything other than DL orthodoxy or you are a troll.

By pointing this out, I am a troll. Some animals are more equal than others.

Many right 4chan freaks come here to spread propaganda while pretending to be liberal. I much prefer that DL is on it's guard rather taking every post at face value. If you aren't a troll don't take it personally.

I asked a simple question, someone posted a poll (Nanos?) on Twitter yesterday that had the Cons at 34 and the Libs at 31. If it was wrong or if I was mistaken then I'm happy. I don't want Scheer as PM anymore than anyone else here does.

R138 I get it. I really do. I am occasionally falsely accused of being a troll as well if I say something negative about an American democrat.

But I don't take it personally. I just restate my position a little more carefully. There really are trolls pretending to be one of us here. And we have no way of knowing who is one and who isn't. Especially as the elections get closer people are just going to be a little on edge.

I didn't even say anything negative about the Liberals, I only asked about the polls, as some polls were showing the Cons in the lead.

I'm all for strategic voting in this election. In my riding I'll be voting Liberal, I am a party member and my sign went up yesterday, but some of my friends will be voting NDP because they are ABC and the NDP are strong in their ridings.

It's not just McCaffrey-Goldy connection; he has other links with Rebel Media, who were a part of the Conservative propaganda team for the past couple of years, basically, when they realized that extreme right wing bedmates helped Trump succeed south of the border.

Of course, and he's doing nothing but attacking and lying about the Liberals and Trudeau, all part of Hamish's playbook. Sadly, he also seems to have prominent members of the media in his corner.

Here's Scheer talking about CPP, which he referred to as a tax. No one from the media has asked him about it.

R138, the Nanos poll has the Liberals ahead, so it wouldn't be that one.

It may be the new pollster 'DART' you are thinking of. It's run by Conservative shill John Wright, and it's the one that has the Cons ahead.

CBC Politics:

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer says he will stand by candidates with racist, homophobic past comments as long as they apologize.

Did anyone here see Nik Nanos on CTV? He's claiming that Scheer's smear campaign and lies are working in favour of the Cons. On Twitter, Nanos shows the CPC and the Liberals in a tie, with the Cons gaining 2 points.

Yeah, the Cons have narrowed the gap in the new Nanos poll.

Libs are still favoured in seats, but it will be a close race.

Will also depend on the debates and other issues.

I read this as liberals in Canada were getting richer than conservatives. I may be suffering mild cognitive decline.

Sorry forgot to sign my post, "Joe Biden".

The Canadian media has become more right-wing.

Ezra Levant, the Canadian equivalent of Ben Shapiro, was given a column today by The Globe & Mail.

New Ipsos poll:

Liberals 35 (+2)

Conservatives 35

NDP 14 (-4)

Green 9

Now the right wingers are accusing Trudeau of "invading" Bianca Andreescu's personal space. Some are hash tagging it as a metoo moment.

Yeah, I saw that, R152.

It was started by Con Senator Linda Frum (the sister of David Frum, who worked for George W. Bush).

Ridiculous.

She retweeted it, and now several cons and Warren Kinsella is in on it too.

In other news, a Con candidate altered a Rick Mercer image and made it seem like he was urging Canadians to vote for the Conservatives. He called them out on their lies and they took down the pic.

As if Rick Mercer, an openly-gay man, would want to vote for a leader like Andrew Scheer who voted against gays in the House of Commons!

R154: Warren Kinsella is a stupid ass has-been who needs to retire and go the fuck away. He is so irrelevant it's not funny.

Of course, R155!! Did you see the doctored image? Now the right is coming for him for saying that he never made the statement in the first place!

Kinsella is an idiot. Is it true that Trudeau wouldn't nominate him? Is that why he's doing what he can to destroy Trudeau? I've heard rumors about him and his connection to JWR. Some weird shit going on there.

Cons faked meme.

One thing has happened that I thought I'd never see, and that's Charles Adler standing up to the Conservative Party. Here he is calling out Con lies about Trudeau and the RCMP.

And here he is calling out the Cons on the Trudeau/Andreescu photo.

Yeah, Adler has been a right-wing radio show host for years, but I've noticed for awhile now that he has been sick of Scheer. He called out Scheer's anti-gay voting record a few weeks ago.

I don't know if he was so much right-wing, more of an old-school, PC, R161? I could be wrong though. He's always been in favour of gay rights/immigrants as far as I can remember. He's also been calling out Jason Kenny and Doug Ford a lot lately too.

If Canadians "punish" the Libs because of the SLC bullshit, then we deserve the shitty govt we get.

Mainstreet Research

September 18, 2019

LIBERAL: 37.2%

CONSERVATIVE: 34.4%

GREEN: 10.1%

NDP: 9.8%

BQ: 4.4%

PEOPLE'S: 3.3%