Why do millennials dominate the conversation about young people?

Good timing?

That can't be just it.

Gen X aren't really young anymore, the youngest are 40 and the old will be mid to late fifties, and people seem not to have noticed that the oldest Gen Z are now in their late teens and coming into adulthood. Millenial is a catch-all term for young people despite the fact that the oldest of us are in our late thirties, but I think that's just an inevitable lag in our collective awareness of time passing.

Gen Z are hitting the workforce and pretty soon people will start recognizing that they're a different generation I think, but I think the conflation between 'millenial' and 'young people will take a while to die out. I suspect it did for the boomers once Gen X came up behind them.

People categorize everyone who is not a boomer as a millennial. No one cares about the titles Gen X or Z.

Millennials are still getting blamed for things that Gen X 40somethings started and for what Gen Z are still doing, so I think millennial is a catch-all term for 1 to 49 year olds.

[quote] No one cares about the titles Gen X or Z.

I think this OP's point. Nobody talks about Gen X or Gen Z. Everybody talks about millennials.

Millennial is just a cooler word, so people use it as a catch all.

Because they're hitting their stride demographically just about now. Their pig is moving through the python.

The youngest slice of the Millennial generation is in or headed to college or a job while the oldest have careers and thus lots of loans to pay, houses to buy, marriage (or not) and families to start and we're seeing and hearing about their accomplishments. It's inevitable we'd be focusing on a group in their 20's, 30's and 40's - they have long been drivers of the economy. Sadly, we're also learning about their failures like no jobs and opiate use.

Also millennial men are narcissists, unafraid of nudes, so that will gather some attention.

Millennial men understand that dicks and money are all you need.

Millennials, and their flaws, are more compelling.

Also what R8 said.

They're the younger Boom- err Turks.

Millennial gays have perfect timing.

Who is that, OP?

Are gen X even young anymore? I'm a millennial and I turn 32 this year.

Only in the world of Datalounge eldergays are Gen X considered "young." The very youngest of Gen X will be turning 40 next year.

R17 Literally what I said lol. I'm a Millennial but I'm old. I was born in 1987.

Then there's the fact that few people actually know what "Millennial" means; they think it applies to "anyone younger than myself."

The young millennials are 23 r8, people headed to college are not millennials.

Which proves the point of how millennial is a catch all term. Millennials aren't even that young anymore.

Oh geez R20. I would say the majority of people in their 20s still qualify as young.

This will probably change in a few years.

Why do babies get to dominate the diaper wearing scene? Old weirdos like like to wear them too!

OP's dude is lovely

Because they elicit responses like at R23.

What about Generation Why?

OP's dude is gonna set one of his eyebrows on fire.

Gen Z is 1-23, Gen X is 40 and older, milennials just happen to be the most important demographic 24-39, but that'll change as we get older.

What r28 said.

On datalounge: Because they are the current porn stars.

In the gay world, because they're young and hot right now as one can reasonably expect of men in their 20s and 30s. The other generations surrounding them are too young or too old. They're in the enviable hot phase in the gay world and will be for a while, but that too will pass.

They also have a more easily identifiable generational culture, for better or worse.

Also who is the guy at Op?

I think people are talking about Gen Z but they just don't realize it.

It's more than just being in the right age. I think millennials subconsciously absorbed some Boomer traits. Which, good for them I guess. They certainly have the confidence of Boomers.

There have been more than a few efforts to push Gen Z in the last few years, but so far no takers.

Let him eat cake R27.

Millennial, being a large generation, will continue to be a driving force until they die, just like the Boomers. Z is a smaller Generation, and like X, will end up being mostly ignored in the face of the giant narcissist generations.

It's a little bit eerie how millennials are positioning themselves quite confidently to take over the way young Boomers did.

R38 is correct.

[quote] Gen Z are hitting the workforce and pretty soon people will start recognizing that they're a different generation I think

This.

Millennials were the first with distinctly larger cocks, plus the huge blow-job lips. They do the towel dance in public spaces yet take a million photos of their private bits and video their sex acts for the world to see.

Millennial = "kids these days!"

This is why:

"there does seem to be a consensus, at least in the States, that millennials truly represent a distinct mutant species of crybaby."

James Wolcott

They are also all of the current pro athletes, R30.

They're cocky brats.

One of the major reasons you hear so much about Millennials is because every corporation making money now believes the Millennial demographic is the only one they should be targeting.

They are forgetting Baby Boomers are living longer than their parents did, and Gen Z are kids with access to money. Not to mention the fact the current mass demographic spanning all categories (parent, home owner, employee etc) is General X. For the last 5 years (at least) everything has all been about the Millennial and what Millennial’s want.

General X and General Z don’t even have proper names. This again gives more gravitas to Millennial and Baby Boomers.

Am gen X and would have NEVER thought I'd still be refered to as ' young'. LMAOROTF. How OLD are you exactly OP,, like Olivia de H. Old ?

The unprecedented narcissism of millennial men makes attention gravitate towards them I guess.

Because Boomers only recognize Millennials as the people younger than them.

R49 thanks, you're loved... Mmmmmm

So who is the guy at OP?

I’m 41, at the tail end of Gen X, they tell me. I am more tech-communications oriented than older Gen Xers, which makes me a little Millennial-like, but I’m definitely more socially checked out, making me more Gen X. Millennials tend to be excitable, with a whole different social and political orientation. And they really, really need attention.

Interesting perspective R53

It seems millennials are basically anybody under the age of 50.

Sorry Gen X and Gen Z, nobody is really into you.

Millennials have bigger cocks.

Millennials don’t dominate the conversation. They are the butt of jokes. But nice try, OP.

Uhh R57, but they kind of do. Especially here. Love them or hate them, they're always on your mind apparently.

r4, That doesn't seem right. There is no way my parents are millennials(born in mid60s), yet aren't they too young to be considered baby boomers.

They need to do an Unsolved Mysteries missing persons episode for Gen X.

r5 Exactly. The word "millennial" has become synonymous with a young person or any person under 40.

I think Gen Z will get more attention once they find a better name. So far, Gen Z sounds zzzzzz

Many (most?) DLers don't have children, who are the biggest marker that generations are shifting, Hence older heteros are not nearly as shocked by the fact that there's a whole group of people younger than them who have a different set of cultural references.

Add in the Peter Pan Syndrome typical of gay men that age-- "I can't be old! Other people are old, but not me!" (which ties in with the need to blame someone else for the fact that they are no longer a lust object.)

And the fact that so many DLers are not in touch with their families and surround themselves with gay men of the same age and so don't actually know anyone younger and thus will believe that everyone under 40 is an unemployed "influencer" living their parents basement.

And the odd avoidance of most pop culture from the Reagan Administration onwards

And the resentment that gays seem to be far more accepted in many sectors of society, especially compared to the 80s

And the need to blame someone else for all the world's evils ("the fifty thousand Millennials who voted for Jill Stein are worse than the hundred million Boomers who voted for Trump!)

And general crotchetiness

And the lack of knowledge as to the existence of Gen Z

And how witty they feel when typing "Millennio"

Those are all good points, R63.

Thank you R64.

OP's guy is Jake Kaye.

Generational erasure!!!

Thank you for IDing him, R66. He's hot.

Uh no R58. But you tried it.

Uhh R69 and yet here you are on a thread talking about millennials instead of a thread about GenWhateverYouAre.

Stay triggered.

I wonder what characteristics will distinguish Gen Z distinctly from Millennials?

I can see the distinctions between Gen X and Millennials along the lines of some traits and markers mentioned throughout this thread so far.

For the life of me however everyone beyond extreme childhood up to age say 35,yo seems amorphously "young" with all the associated 21st C markers that have been bandied about ad nauseum.

Gen Z are about to hit College and the serious consumer and voter demographics+. Their key indicators have got to have something district and different going on however don't they?? I'm too removed from them to know?

Can younger DL pitch in here with insight?

I would like to know the same thing, R71. Gen Z just seem like miniMillennials to me so far.

Gen Z are already in college.

Most studies I've read have them as more conservative--they have less sex, drink and do drugs less, not into tattoos, less aggressively "woke" but more accepting of diversity, both sexual and racial, as they grew up in a much more diverse country and so it was always there, not something they had to adapt to

Also while most people my age (34) remember a world pre-iPhones and constant internet access, they don't, it's always been a part of their lives.

Seems in many ways to be sort of the way Gen X was to the Boomers.

I do find it odd how Gen Z has garnered so little attention. The oldest of them are 22. Even in 1987, people generally recognized that X'ers were a different group than baby boomers.

The big question is, "What will the generation after generation Z be called?" Will they start at the beginning of the alphabet?

[quote] Seems in many ways to be sort of the way Gen X was to the Boomers.

I can easily see the ME-lennials overshadowing Gen Z in the same exact dynamic.

At 40-55, I'm not sure I would count the X as "young". And I am one of them.

R60 Vivons heureux, vivons cachés.

[quote] Most studies I've read have them as more conservative--they have less sex, drink and do drugs less,

So they're boring millennials?

At least millennials, in their endless vapidity and promiscuity, made for a fun, cringeworthy spectacle to behold.

[quote]Their pig is moving through the python.

I like the way you type.

r55, Millennials are not as old as 50 years old.

Sorry, that's Gen X baby.

Oh BTW, keep ignoring us and bashing the millennials, it's so much fun to watch.

It's what happens when you're bookended by two forgettable, nondescript generations.

No, it's what happens when you can't count.

OP’s pic is so hot.

Are there more nudes of the guy at OP?

It’s not the guy that’s hot, it’s the slice of cake he’s eating. My mouth is watering. Someone identify the cake so I can find a recipe.

[quote] Someone identify the cake so I can find a recipe.

It's called Gen XZ cake. The millennial is eating it.

[quote]Are there more nudes of the guy at OP?

Were there any to begin with?

Does a butt tease count?

They are in the best Goldilocks position right now.

yassss

Because ypung people always dominate the conversation about young people?

Young*

What age range is Gen Z?

To me ‘Boomer’ & ‘Millennial’ have simply become easy catchwords to use in place of ‘Late-20th Century person’ and ‘Early-21st Century person’, or even ‘pre-2nd Millennium’ and ‘post-2nd Millennium’.

This article touches on some of the things mentioned here.

That's a terrible article, R96.

I don't know but there have been other threads about Gen X and Z and they fall flat.

I think a much more upsetting fact is that as boomers retire, millennials are in their prime to inherit positions of control from them. I have already seen this in the workplace, where senior boomer bosses want to mentor or promote ambitious workers in their 20s and 30s who remind them of themselves when they were their age.

Generations seem to fall in an alpha-beta pattern. Greatest Generation dominated politics for 40 years with the Silent Gen ignored, until Boomers took over. Since then, it's been sort of a repeat. Even the children of millennials, Generation Alpha, seem primed to be grabbing attention from the overlooked Z's.

I think it's because there are relatively few Gen Xers - especially the younger end of Gen X, there are relatively very few Americans in their 40s especially, only about 20something million of them - and most Gen Z are kids and teens still and aren't yet much of a threat to the status quo.

But that generation is enormous and it does seem nobody's ready for it.

Did the numerically small Xers really have so many kids that Gen Z is a huge population though?

Oh, dear. Gen Z already being skipped.

GenXers are not young. You're not young, OP.

It's just the forgettable names. X? Z? You're gonna have to try a little harder than a shitty letter in the alphabet, dears.

[quote] senior boomer bosses want to mentor or promote ambitious workers in their 20s and 30s who remind them of themselves

I have seen this as well.

R99 so millennial workers shouldn't try hard to get promoted?

I want to eat Jack Kaye's ass.

Are there actual big, bold differences between Millennials and Gen Z?

Not really, R109.

To answer OP, because millennials trigger boomers in a way that others never did.

Millennials overshadowing Z seems like sort of an eerie retread of Boomers/Xers.

Because, as we were overlooked by our parents' generation, we are overlooked by our younger siblings.

We're the hottest. Gen Xers aren't fit enough. Gen Z is too fem. That's why we are the most talked about age group

The millennial leapfrogging for jobs and getting the adoration of older bosses is a real thing.

Gen Zers should be getting some attention soon.

[quote] senior boomer bosses want to mentor or promote ambitious workers in their 20s and 30s who remind them of themselves

Why wouldn't they? I fail to see how this is strange or a problem.

[quote] millennial leapfrogging

And IMO, some Gen X'ers seem stuck in some strange, archaic 80's honor code timewarp of blood brothers or something where waiting forever is what you must do.

Gen Z is so big not because the numerically small amount of latter-day Gen Xers had a ton of kids (although we did statistically have more kids than latter day boomers did, obviously), but because they're the kids of Gen X AND millennials, many of whom are plenty old enough by now to have teenagers.

Pew Found that Generation Z and Millennials had nearly identical responses in their polls on the issues r109.

The youngest Gen X are in their late 30s (if that), and that's not exactly young. They also increasingly, gradually, affirm some version of Gen Y values, as they no long have to appease the norm of Boomers or older. They're still split though.

Gen Z are in their early 20s at oldest (if that), and that's not exactly prominent yet. They've also retained most values to most of the extent of Gen Y, at least so far. Even if they arguably take a more cynical look at it. Don't be fooled by the right wing astroturfing that they're somehow some latent rise of conservatives. Generally, my impression of Gen Z is that they're the self-styled 'deeper' approach to Millennial issues. That they are the ones that 'really get it', with a very serious face and straight-lined aesthetics. (I'm glad for that, as I quickly got very sick of the Millennial baby music and ukuleles, for example). They see a more cutthroat world ahead of them and they're preparing for that, but so far I haven't detected a more Gen X Wall Street Greed approach to it, though a LOT of GRATUITOUS shilling of any product they can. Very like every Gen Zer is a door to door saleman, but the digital version, but they think they're better, because its with more tech now instead of in person. I see a rise of personal capitalism and appeal to corporations, but not necessarily a particular care about corporate wishes for less regulation. The latter is one of the many things that they'll retain from Gen Y, along with things like a very general acceptance of gay people, and police criticism.

Yes R120 and there is a lot of cultural/values overlap between older millennials and younger Gen Xers. Some demographers call the 75-85 era generation "Xennials" for that reason.

R121 Yeah. My personal reference is that I'm 29, but my partner is an older millennial at nearly 33 and with us with lots of 30-something friends. There's definitely difference between when these people were 20somethings and the current 20somethings. The now older ones had a whole 'how do we be progressive' approach, whether activist of casual, while the current 20somethings are more 'I'm woke and you should be/Woke is bs let me live my life' more extreme split. In that sense, emerging Gen Zers will be like Gen X on social issues and very well might let in a right-wing power in the 2020s, but it'd have to get through the filters of a future 30s-40something Millennial generation with a high distaste for anything with a smell of conservative.

Almost all the 30somethings I know, even the rougher manual laborers, have a vibe of 'how do I teach my children to accept others, etc' even if they have the lack of activism that so many Gen Xers also lack, but the 20somethings from when I recently graduated (late) college and in work are more IN IT or NOT IN IT. Regardless, social conservatives are in for a hell of a time with it comes to an older decade of people who disregard them, another decade of people who actively fight them, and another decade that at least lean on preferring away from them (as well at not being as immersed in religion, etc).

Why are DLers fucking OBSESSED with generations and their characteristics?

R123 because you geezers are jealous of us.

DL has a Millennials Hate Troll who posts a lot of this shit.

I imagine he looks like this:

R124: Pot. Kettle. Black.

Read the thread. You're not hearing from Boomers here because they have what you want and can't be bothered arguing with you. They're not triggered: they don't give a shit because they've got their's.

Generation Z are also called Zoomers

That's a very unfortunate name R127.

Thats normal of people in their 20s and 30s?

Why Zoomers, R127?

r130 It's because of the myth invented by a conservative writer, Salena Zito, that post-Millennials will be far more conservative than Millennials, that they will grow to be Boomers 2.0. There is no data in support for this thesis - there is refuting it, though. In addition, in late 2018 articles were written showing that Zito put words into the mouths of people she interviews.

From the looks of her, she ain’t putting anything in other people’s mouths. Bitch keeping it all for herself.

LOL that bitch is dumb. Gen Z is more liberal than we are

Gen Z gives no fucks about race, gender or orientation. But they're called Zoomers because they're the kids of millennials *and* Gen Xers, so there's a fuck ton of them, i.e., they're a second baby boom.

I thought the Millennials were the second baby boom?

At least that's what they told us in the 80's when the brats were all being born.

I think the older generations are flustered because they are being phased out of everything and replaced largely with attention towards millennials but also some Gen Z. It's a millennial world and they just live in it now.

I think the older generations are flustered because they are being phased out of everything and replaced largely with attention towards millennials but also some Gen Z. It's a millennial world and they just live in it now.

R137, that and they own it...

The interesting thing is that birth rates have been on a steady decline since the late 2000s. 2018 saw the lowest number of births since the 1980s, so whatever this generation that's currently being born will be called, they will likely be much smaller than the one that precedes them. On the other hand, there are boom and bust years in every generation that balance out the numbers a bit. When you're talking about Millennials, the peak number of births took place in the late 80s/early 90s, so the highest concentration of Millennials currently are in their late 20s/early 30s now. 1990 is the peak Millennial birth year. For Generation Z, the peak birth year is 2007 (which is actually the peak birth year of all time thus far!), where even more babies were born in the U.S. than in the peak year of the Baby Boom (1957). After 2007, the birth rate appears to dramatically decline. Peak Generation Z are currently in their tweens to mid-teens. I don't think we've fully seen their influence yet.

R138 that too but that will change soon.

R140: not that soon - the youngest Boomer (though no doubt someone here will, as they always do, try to assert that the widely used cutoff date of 1964 is wrong because it doesn't fit their narrative and thus dispute this) is 55, with another dozen years or so until full retirement to work and - depending on whether male or female - roughly another 16 to 20 years to live after retiring. Improvements in healthcare (and improved self-care like exercise and a better diet) will likely bump those numbers up a bit in the interval as well.

Meaning their wealth, while declining in both absolute and relative terms as Boomers die and subsequent generations accumulate more assets, will still be a factor until the middle of the 21st century or approximately 2050. Presumably, a lot of it will pass to their children or if they have no children, to their heirs by then, enriching subsequent generations - a fact (it's always been this way) seldom mentioned in threads here.

If gay (or "bi" or "curious" or "hungry") male Millennials and especially Gens X and Z were serious about building wealth by means other than salaried employment, one thing they should consider is sucking all the old dick they can find (concentrating, of course, on well-fixed, home-owning old dick resident in high-dollar zip codes who can still get it up) in the expectation that Gramps would put them in the will. All across America this summer there are tens of thousands of hot-looking shirtless guys mowing lawns and working construction in the blazing sun when they could be indoors on their knees - or on their backs if Grandpa can still fuck - securing their financial future with a lot less effort.

I mean, isn't that how Joel is working his way through McGill?

R141 makes a good point.

Millennials are the current 20 and 30somethings so of course that is where the current focus of pop culture will be.

Millennials are rude and triggering.

Triggered-ass non-Millennials.

Because it's embarrassing to read about people who think relying on their parents for financial support doesn't becoming embarrassing (to them, anyway) until they're older than 27?

Or because it's even more embarrassing to read that one fifth of them expect to rely on their parents for money into their 30's?

GenX's sexual sell by date has long expired and those Z children aren't doing anything off their phone.

The millennials are the most stupid.

The rot started here

I have no idea what these demarcations are. M, X, Y? Why not just refer to them by age? Their generation is not more significant than other generation, and not particularly significant on their own.

These pods are in no way similar to the boomers, who were a phenomenon because they were a demographic bulge, due to delayed births from the Depression and War. That’s why the Boomers were a thing.

In the gay world, Millennials are currently in the catbird seat, but that too will pass with age.

But the following generation be any more stupid than Millennials?

Yup r150, they'll find out! LOL

Young and beautiful, someday your looks will be gone.

I dunno, but they be any more than you R151?

From my experiences, millennial balls taste salty

I reckon those millennials should demonstrate to the world that they AREN'T stupid.

So what's the deal with Gen Z? Shouldn't they be getting attention by now

R156 nobody cares about them. Even their own parents think they're millennials.

Boomer and Gen X Bottoms and their expired mussies resent Millennial Bottoms who are stealing cock away from them. That's what this thread boils down to.

Mussies never expire.

Gen Z is actually a bigger generation than Millenials or Boomers. They will begin to get more notice soon, probably within the next ten years. It's the children of Millenials (Generation Alpha?) that are going to be closest to Gen X, as Millenials are not having a lot of children.

Gen Z is not that big. They're only considered large because nobody has put an end cap to their age range yet.

If Gen X and millennials are both 15 year generations, Gen Z should be too, putting them at a 1997 to 2012 age range. Hence, they are not that big.

Lets be honest: Each generation tends to only be concerned with the generation they are in. It isn't just a millennial thing.

R163 not really. Both baby boomers and Gen X had a very foul aggressive attitude towards millennials for the whole entire last decade. You can research some of the earlier Datalounge threads from 2018 and prior for proof. Only recently have Anti Young attitudes changed just a little bit but I suspect that's because Gen X's little brats are coming of age. All of a sudden you will see all of these articles about how great Gen Z is and that they're the greatest thing since sliced bread!

OP's guy is hot.

[quote]Both baby boomers and Gen X had a very foul aggressive attitude towards millennials for the whole entire last decade.

That was my point...bitching about someone doesn't mean you're showing concern about them.

To add to my point, all of a sudden many Gen X parents of teenagers are suddenly concerned for affordable college, probably because that concerns THEM and their payments of their Darling Children. This after they have lectured us about irresponsible debt and whatnot. Baby Boomers are the grandparents being nice to these brats all of a sudden.

Screw these bitches!

This thread cracks me up.

Bitter Party of One, R167.

I absolutely own the bitterness, R169, and I stand by everything I said.

Gen X and Boomers are super nice to these new little shits after being absolutely brutal to us.

Elders aren't always out to get you, R170.

Because media can't hold more than one thought in their narrative at a time. They have not been able to label a whole generation since X, so they will ride the Millennial wave until long past the Zers are in their 30's.

R170 I'm Gen X, and I went through a similar experience as you, feeling that my Baby Boomer co-workers were brutal towards me. I remember starting at one work place where I was the 24, and youngest person besides me was 37. It was extremely challenging. I think it's a tendency for some older folks to treat their younger co-workers disrespectfully. Which is why I have gone out of my way to be helpful and kind to my Millennial co-workers. I hope that you too are kind to the young people coming up, we have to set an example.

^^^ sorry about my second sentence coming out strangely. I was in a rush. I meant that worked at a place where I was 24, and the second youngest person was 37. I need coffee!

Millennials = Baby Boomers 2.0.

Millennials are great because they sext to each other all their time!

(and all the oldies can secretly jerk off to those sexting pictures)

The Gen Zers are a disaster so far.

Above poster or posters nailed it; key demographic for advertisers and so much more is 18-49, hence all this Millennial attention.

Other major key demographic is 35-64 which covers tail end Boomers, along with a bit of later generations.

Yeah, Gen Z is sooo irrelevant.

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