The one thing that I really dislike about straight people

Why the fuck do you care about being validated by those assholes? They don't like you because you don't like yourself. Loser.

OP I would be nice to you.

Thanks R2.

You're too pushy, OP. I wouldn't pay much attention to you either.

You are not wrong, and this extends to cliques at work too.

I would be friendly to you also.

Perhaps they're all fundamentalist, scum-of-the-Earth loonies, OP?

Why would a single gay man want to be embraced by a group of heterosexual parents in the first place? Confused.

I agree up to a point, OP. My best friend for years is straight, but I noticed a complete cooling in our friendship after he got married and had kids. I understand it when straight marrieds start hanging out with other straight marrieds, because their time is limited and they might want to be with other people who are experiencing the same things they are -- don't we all, to some degree? -- but I miss him terribly. It is hurtful to know I was cut from the post-married circle of friends, but it doesn't make me dislike my friend. Lives change.

You know, OP, I had a similar situation to yours.

Unfortunately, my crawl space was already filled with dozens of dead hoboes, so I never got around to dealing with my more troublesome neighbors. Although I did eventually depart to another less inhabited state and therefor got to burn my cul de sac down to the ground before moving.

Poor mother was blamed for the fire, but it was okay because she was deemed senile and died from smoke inhalation anyway.

I'm surprised they never found the hoboes. So much for that Neighborhood Association.

I would say the problem is you. Not that there is anything wrong with you, but you think their behaviour is about you. It's not.

They like to have other parents around because it is easier. They just dont want to put in the effort to reach beyond their bubble. In there clique, everybody reinforces their decisions. And for some of them, they dont want to hear about your non chained to child lifestyle.

Be glad. They're boring.

This isn't about straight people; these people are cunts to other straight people who aren't married and/or don't have kids. It's about coupledom and kids; plenty of these types would welcome a gay married couple with kids into their clique.

R11 I agree with you. It’s all about being childless. If you don’t have kids you have no right to be tired or stressed. You don’t know the hardships of being a parent. I lost many friends once they became parents.

r11 nails it. It is all about whether you have kids or not. Many people when they have kids then want to be friends with other parents, and they drift away from associations who are childless. Their world becomes based around children, and their social life reflects that.

I am a straight woman who didn't want kids. All my friends drifted away except one. And in the case of straight women, a lot of them don't want you around their husbands. The truth is, I didn't really mind that they drifted away because more often than not I didn't want to be around their kids anyway. Kids were all they could talk about and I found that boring.

Maybe you’re just a dick.

The exact opposite happened to me. Most of my straight friends and family wanted to hang out with me more because they were sick of all the baby and toddler talk all day and wanted adult interaction. Maybe it's because I'm not white, but I've noticed white people tend to be more cliquish in general.

breeders.fuck them. they only form units so they can trade spouses. seduce one of the better looking husbands and then send vids of his sexual awakening to his shrew wife

Childless straight female here. Yes, it is all about their kid clique. A guy that I have been dating off and on is in one. I hate it. The only reason they seem to be friends is because of their kids all going to the same stupid Catholic school. I feel your pain.

People saying this is about all of the having kids might be onto something, if not for the fact that a straight married childless couple is part of their little group.

I think this is about being a middle aged gay man who takes care of his mother.

Oddly enough I get along well with the seniors on the street.

I have kids and when I am FORCED to hang out with other parents we are all miserable talking about kid nonsense that is mind-numbingly dull. And it is endless. Trust me, you are missing nothing. I think people with kids glom onto each other because the reality is that cool, fun, childless people don’t want to take part in the dullness. Imagine being in friendships solely because your toddlers are the same age. What are the odds that the adults would ever choose each other as friends otherwise?! Hell!!

I have a straight friend who never wanted kids, talked shit about people who had them, and then suddenly at 46 years old, decided to have one.

She's become the worst possible stereotype of "mom" I've seen. In fact, if I invite her to anything she expects to bring her husband and her kid. Last year, for my birthday, I wanted a "girl night" type of thing and offered to pay for everyone's dinner (a lot of my friends have lost their jobs. I didn't want anyone to feel bad they couldn't pay). I sent her an invite. Just her. She rsvp'ed, "The 3 of us will be there." This put me in the shitty position of having to tell her I wanted it to be small and a girl's night type of thing since I was paying. She ended up not coming.

Once people have kids they lose all their fucking judgement and sense. You are better off not having them in your life.

Posts like R21's make me realize that I probably am lucky not being part of their group, but they don't have to be jerks about it. I mean if I wave hello at least wave back, don't stand there starring at me like I just flipped you off.

They sound like assholes, op. You’re better off without them, and their smelly, sticky kids.

I think much of the clique-yness among parents of small children is 'misery loves company' stuff with a thin veneer of socializing. And why the FUCK do they all stand out on their FRONT lawns, drinking, and letting their stupid kids play in the street? There have been some close calls at a house near a busy intersection and parents are all down on whatever hapless driver happens to turn onto the street when their darling little crotchfruit are playing there. No, OP . . . you're not missing anything. Lots of one-upping and boring shit about schools and ridiculous theme parties and porch décor.

If these are just neighbors and not friends I wouldn't sweat it.

One thing I hate....the husband is hot and the wife is not. Not a bearding thing either so the hottie and fatties is what sets gays from straights.

Omg, these fucking breeders on my street are horrendous. They can all go fuck themselves with their children’s toys.

Heteros are too self-absorbed to be interesting.

Foisting their nasty crotchfruit on others is even worse.

They aren't worth your time, OP.

I know gay parents who are the same way. You're best off making friends with other single childless people. Trust me, you'll all be much happier!

What makes you want to be part of their social circle to begin with? I can't imagine hanging out with people and their kids! Even at my nephew's birthday parties and sporting events I can't stand the noise and rowdiness of the kids and the dull child-centric conversation from the parents. I usually have a good excuse to drop in for a quick appearance and leave early!

R8, I could’ve written that myself.

Birds of a feather....

I'm an adult. I don't want to hang out with your kids to "get to know them." I don't want to have to listen to your kids crying or screaming or throwing tantrums. I grew up with 3 siblings so I want peace. Straight people who worship kids don't understand the freedom being gay brings. I don't have to have a kid. I can't accidentally make one.

I also don't understand gay people who want them. Life without them is bliss, in my opinion.

Straight woman here. I’d invite both you and your mom over. Tea or martinis, your choice!

It can definitely be a club of superiority and self-absorption, especially for the ones who believe it’s some sort of calling.

I made the mistake of buying a house in a quiet, upper-middle class neighborhood. I was 38 and, after having spent my entire adult life in densely populated cities, I thought I was ready to have a quieter environment.

I was the only single, childless person on the block. All of my neighbors had children, and all but one couple were cold (and even rude) to me.

Maybe they think you're judging them? Contempt works both ways with this kind of situation; parents know that childless people can be very unkind in their view of traditional familes. We know you think we're boring and that you're a cool rebel who rejected society's expectations, and you're having the time of your life while we desperately try to hide our affairs and drinking problems. The stereotypes from both sides are pretty assholish, and like as not they don't apply. I think the most likely reason is that they're rude in general or don't have any social skills. Talking about your kids is easy with another parent, even when they are a stranger and you don't have anything in common. That's why they accepted the your other neighbor but are not welcoming to you. Don't always think the worst of people; everyone is flawed.

I was friends with a couple like you described OP, it’s like trying to be friends with an indigenous tribe in Brazil.

I never understood why women struggle to control their moaning during sex. I lived in a fraternity for 2 years and the womanly sounds of lovemaking haunt me to this day.

Babies are cute then they turn into black-headed, pimple faced, mean black holes.

Today’s ‘lifestyle parenting’ make being friends with the child free an impossibility. We don’t think it’s adorable to dine at trendy restaurant with your loud and ill behaved toddler. Their tantrum is not adorable and I’ll let you know.

They probably think you're a molester OP, but don't fret: breeders think everyone wants their ugly kids.

They probably think they can convince the straight childless couple to have kids and be one of them. I've seen that happen at work a million times.

r37, you know it's because of porn that they do it, right? They think that's how it's supposed to be. I once had a "straight" girlfriend and she screamed and moan like a banshee when we had sex. I actually told her she had to put a pillow over her mouth if she was going to insist on doing that.

Straight women think it's sexy to moan and scream. I will say it is sexy but they need to be able to control it.

I'm an old, married dame, and would be delighted to be friends with you. Wish you lived on my multi-childed street!

I hate people like that, what do you say to these fraus when they ask if you have kids and why not? at events, dinner etc?

they look at you like there's something wrong with you.

My sister has kids and she is constantly surrounded by other mums who want to be her friend and hang out together while their kids play, solely because the children all know each other from school. She fucking hates it. The "stepfords" (as she likes to call them) lurk around the school gate in the mornings trying to recruit people into their clique, when being local parents is all they have in common. I've met some of the mothers before when I've been hanging out with her and there is almost a kind of desperation around it. I wonder if they are lonely. It's quite sad.

We know what you mean, Mary OP! All of our men (aka str8 guys) friends - once they were captured by a stinkfish (aka str8 female) - never spoke to us again! The men are certainly happy to remain your friend but the sitnkfish, being insecure and possessive, will not allow it.

Tons of straight women in this thread.

What are you doing here?

When they have kids and don’t take care of them. They put the responsibility on foster care, grandparents, teachers, and social workers.

Get a boyfriend, OP, and be seen with him. If you're a single man living with Mother, they will suspect you're a pedo, and your every friendly gesture will be met with suspicion. They're paranoid and protective of their spawn.

Keep in mind they're a dull lot.

But OP why do you even want to hang out with them?

Heterosexuality is not normal and this thread is living proof of it.

Sorry about that, OP. But give yourself credit for being a friendly neighbor. Lots of people, especially in upscale neighborhoods, live in their little personal cocoons and never bother to get to know the people who live around them.

[quote]And why the FUCK do they all stand out on their FRONT lawns, drinking, and letting their stupid kids play in the street?

I love you R24 and I hate when they do this.

and what do you say to the brats when they ask why you don't have kids? Do you tell them the truth like the planet doesn't need more kids?

Jesus R49 I didn't think of that. They probably view me as every stereotype that hets have about gay men.

Married couples are fun before they have any kids. Once they start hving kids, that's all they think about, all they do and all they can talk about. They become boring. Later in life, when they become empty nesters, they become fun again.

When women find out they can't manipulate you sexually, they shun you.

They like douche-bro because they know he likes pussy, and it turns them on.

You don't bring anything they want or need to the table. Perhaps you could offer them free babysitting?

R42, whi is it "straight" and not straight?

Yes, r56,we have a rich man (aka str8 guy) friend from Ireland. All he talks about is leaving his properties to his son. B.O.R.I.N.G.

I dont, same sex attraction is not homophobic, I used to identify as gay before transitioning, I have close gay friends and admire some openly gay and lesbian people, if a straight guy who flirts with me doesnt want to date me or fuck me me because I have a dick right now I understand, it hurts and may make me a bit dysphoric but I accept my current reality, I dont think of them as bigots unless they insult me or try to hurt me (thankfully has never happened). I usually end up sucking their cock or let them play with my tits but I dont try to make them learn to like dick, it doesnt make any sense. Stop dehumanizing us and treating us like villains, we have complex and often not so easy lives. Sincerely

LOLWUT

R60 Oddly enough, a post almost exactly like yours is showing up in other threads, too.

Are you the tranny-sitioning troll? Or are people ripping off your work?

And OP: why do you care? You want to hang out with these people? Why?

The only couple friends I have made in my building are single people, gay and straight childless couple and older folk.

Maybe make friends with seniors, OP.

The only thing more revolting than people constantly taking about their kids is people constantly talking about their dogs. I don't give a fuck about your dog!!!

Why would a single childless man want to hang around couples with kids anyway. Of course they'd be afraid of pedos.

Dogs are gross too. I don't want to have anyone's dog jumping all over me or stinking up my house. A frau recently posted pics of her dog's diarrhea stains on Facebook. How disgusting and delusional can anyone be. Ain't nobody wanna see that shit!

R65 Literally!

I thought I could be friendly with the cunts on my block, but that’s it....they’re cunts. They must think I want to get my hands on their stupid fucking crotch fruit or their husbands or some shit. I honestly hope they get raped. I truly do. They are so nasty to me.

Are you renting? You need to move to an area with different demographics, like a condo or anywhere single people without kids congregate.

Oh please. I do everything possible NOT to be accepted into that world.

They're afraid you'll awaken some sleeping part of their sexless husbands, which you can and would if they were worth having.

R70 Love it!