Is Beto over before he even got started?

I think he jumped the shark with the dentist chair bullshit.

That was such empty LOOK AT ME Justin Trudeau bs.

He just didn't have a message as to why he should be president--he has been running solely on youth and likeability. Buttigieg has both those things, and actually has ideas to boot. It wasn't even a contest.

He's over.

From the start it was clear he should have been content to give senator another crack, but instead he went for the top based on very little and flamed out.

He sure disappeared fast.

Right wing site

FF OP

Poor guy

He might have jumped the shark with the arm-flailing and that “My wife is at home raising our kids” remark. He’s just too goofy.

He doesn’t really stand for anything. He’s just a big poseur.

Nice posterior. He'll hang in there if he keeps standing on tables and wearing slim fit chinos. Throw in some juicy VPL.

That link may be to a conservative site......but agree that he seems to have lost momentum.

We have a long way to go. I hope he stays in the race I like him

Just sitting back waiting for the VP call?

This thing is going to twist and turn some more. Mayor Pete's record on race is getting a closer look now-- it's the typical cycle, someone is built up as the Messiah and then he or she is torn down. We'll see if he can survive it. Beto just needs to hang in there.

I'm not totally sure Beto's voters overlap with Pete's all that much. Some, yes, but not totally. I'd like to see more analysis of that.

I also see that Beto is doing it really differently-- where Pete is doing a lot of national media to raise his name recognition, Beto is staying low-key, just going to tons of small voter meetups, knocking on doors, riding around in that van. And he's going to general election states like WI, MI, and VA, not just the first four early states. (VA is on Super Tuesday, so there's that, too.) Beto is playing a long game and he'll have the money to do it.

The dark horse is Elizabeth Warren. Slow and steady, and those policy proposals are the real deal. Pete and Beto don't have much like that yet.

Beto's exhausting.

Let's hope so, OP.

Beto seems to be heading towards making the Dean Scream at some point.

He and his flailing arms are over

Was it this?

is he wearing a dress here?

The political equivalent of "jump the shark" is now "jump the counter."

Arms flailing away at R21. He’s like a human windmill.

I will say this: I don't count him out. Almost every other announced candidate has done a national town hall except him. I still want to hear him, and if I have to wait until the June debates, so be it. There's lots of time for him to still impress us, if he can.

But..but..CHARISMA!

DUI (hit and run). No military. Sorta beat around before finding his way. I think Pete has him beat.

^ also the Vanity Fair cover exposed his, well, vanity.

I think it's the opposite. The others are competing for the spotlight early, so he's going to end up making more of an impact later on. Plus the longer the others campaign, the more chances they have to put their foot in their mouth.

Beto was smart to sit and wait it out.

Standing on the table is very Justin Trudeau LOOK AT ME!

I believe he raised 9 million in about 20 days? He's outpacing everyone.

R28- That must be photoshopped.

But the Trudeau version is more gay-friendly, give him that. r28

No, Daddy did it, too

Look at me

R30: No, he has incredible upper arm strength. Plus Trudeau has a policy record, Beto don't have shit now, and what he did do in the House doesn't seem promising. (Buttigieg doesn't have a promising record either, to be fair.)

Trudeau did not have a lot of political background (except nepotism) when he first ran for office. He was still rather junior when he ran for PM.

I think O'Rourke was just image all along. The Democratic campaign is going to be like this: once hot prospects inexplicably getting lost in the crowd. Who knows who will survive?

Yoga is for children, too.

I like Beto, and like everyone, wish he had beaten that lecherous toad Cruz. But he has a great shot at taking Cornyn's seat in 2020, that would be in the best interest for the Dems.

Buttigeg stole his thunder. Clearly the chosen one. He’s Like Beto but a veteran and gay. Won DL overnight

[quote]That was such empty LOOK AT ME Justin Trudeau bs.

Some big differences.

Trudeau has flaws, but has actually been successful in achieving the highest political office in his country.

Beto hasn't even won a Senate race yet.

Beto and Pete are interchangeable and not in a good way. They will both cancel eachother out. I find both bland and boring.

If you want unpredictable and endlessly exciting, I've got the candidate for you.

Yeah. And they don't really stand for anything. Image and vague hope blah blah to try to hide the big corporate donors.

It's waaaaaaay to soon to coronate or bury anyone.

But could we have another black one -Cory and Kamala embarrassed themselves jumping on the Jussie support train immediately.

He just needs to release a sex tape and he'll be popular again

He lost me at the photo with Butch Gabbard and Miss Amy Schock.

[quote]Beto and Pete are interchangeable and not in a good way. They will both cancel eachother out. I find both bland and boring.

They're not interchangeable..

The fact that Pete is openly gay is at least one major difference between them.

Beto is openly hetero, and "just born to be in it" so you know heroic and shit.

Booker, Kloubacar, Castro, and the others polling low are the ones who are done before it started. When adding up support for everyone not supporting Bernie, Joe, Pete, Beto, Kamala and Liz, there’s still about 20 percentage points to fight over. It will be interesting who gains once they start to drop out.

Which one has grabbed the most pussy? There's your winner.

O’Rourke was all looks/charisma and no substance. Only thing he had going for him was his ersatz-Hispanic background.

After IA and NH, the race moves South and as Hilary demonstrated in 2016, whoever carries the Black vote in the South wins the nomination. The number of delegates is insurmountable. This is why reparations is rearing its ugly head.

In the Aaron Schock thread there were claims Beto has dabbled with men and is in an unhappy marriage, FWIW ...

Beto is fine. He has a lot more personality than Pete. I can't imagine old people voting for someone as young as Pete (although he doesn't look that young) or gay. He sure as hell isn't going to potentially carry Texas which Beto would have a shot of doing.

Yes, every hot straight guy on DL is either bi or gay. Rolling eyes.

Why isn't Beto part of these CNN Town Halls? Or is CNN running more of these with the other Democratic hopefuls?

R51 then Joe Biden wins!

Pete looks gay and most of you guys must be blind. He set my gaydar when I first saw him and then someone posted his teenage picture. Bitch look trans. He had the look you could tell he is really gay like gold star gay.

[quote]He sure as hell isn't going to potentially carry Texas which Beto would have a shot of doing.

It won't be easy for the Democrats to win Texas -- it's probably not going to happen for another two election cycles. Democrats need to improve their voter registration and infrastructure in Texas to a greater extent than exists now.

Hillary did have a good result in 2016 -- she only lost by 9 points, which was an improvement on Obama's 2012 performance.

2016 was the best margin the Dems had in Texas since Bill Clinton gave Bob Dole a good run in 1996.

Premature ejaculation.

R56 he isn't part of the CNN town halls because they don't see him as a top-tier candidate.

[quote] I think he jumped the shark with the dentist chair bullshit.

I think it was the Vanity Fair cover and accompanying article.

Beto's oh-so-carefully rolled-up shirtsleeves notwithstanding, in a field this crowded it would seem to be difficult for him to regain momentum after being relegated to second-tier so early in the race.

Beto the Boy Wonder will never get close to the Oval Office unless he's the WH Butler.

Yes.

[QUOTE] Bitch look trans.

Please...🙄

More of this nonsense, yet again. The primary race has only just started; no one has won or lost anything yet. This desperate need to declare winners and losers at this point is absurd.

Perhaps, but again, in a field this crowded some early winnowing-out is going to be inevitable. Otherwise there's just too many candidates to maintain the interest of the press and the public. No one has the mental energy or desire to select among 20 candidates on a ballot. It may be unfortunate, and it may be unfair, but a little culling of the herd is going to be necessary.

r20 his looks peaked there

He's not stupid, he's certainly sincere, but he has got to centre himself and let go some of the theatrics. He went on a one man likability strategy against Ted Cruz, who is awful, and it almost worked. But that's not enough for the big game.

I don't think he's over but he may be early. Better another time, perhaps.

R67, on the contrary, right now we are in the midst of the critical invisible primary. This is when the candidates are scrambling to line up press coverage, endorsements, donor dollars, and that ever-illusive "momentum". If someone doesn't make it through this stage he isn't going to show up on a ballot at all.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but it appears positive press coverage peaked upon publication of those Vanity Fair glamor shots.

Now beat that for alliteration!

His neck moles are a problem.

r73 Only to the "ewww, moles" queens. Most of us don't notice them.

I'm with R2

Lol R51!

R72 = Robert Louis Stevenson

R70...Anyone is likable against Ted Cruz.

The news networks will decide which of the five million candidates are worthy of having on the stage, but who knows, they might have a kid's table debate with the more minor players. This will probably be determined by polling. It will be interesting to see which ones get invited to the earliest debates.

One wonders if Biden and Sanders will benefit from the Trump Effect -- when there are lots of candidates, whomever can grab the news media attention will suck all the oxygen away from everyone else. Trump did this by being outrageous. How will Bernie or Joe do the same?

^^^ "Trump did this by being teevee famous, and outrageous."

Apparently they won't do a kids' table debate, R79. It'll be a mix of the top 20 in the first 2 debates.

I still love Beto and still think he has a future, but Mayor Pete won my heart. I'd vote for a Pete and Beto ticket. But I really want Biden in the Mix

I think he has the right attitude towards what the hell is wrong with the USA (corruption!! In so many aspects), but he just doesn't have the abilities of good leadership.

He needs to watch those teefs when he's working on my cock.

I like his enthusiasm but he is so not ready for prime time. He's kind of clueless on the issues and I'm very afraid he would choke badly in debates.

[quote]whomever can grab the news media attention

Oh, dear ....

Thanks r81 -- I wonder how they'll choose the mix?

And I assume after that they are going to have to hone it down to no more than 10. Even 10 gets unwatchable.

R81 & R87:

[quote]DNC Releases Candidate Thresholds for First Two Debates:

[quote]A candidate will either need to register at least 1 percent in three different polls in 2019, 14 days prior to the debate or raise money from at least 65,000 unique donors, having a minimum of 200 contributors in each of at least 20 states.

[quote]The DNC said it would consider both national surveys and early-state polls of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada as valid.

[quote]Qualifying polls would be limited to those sponsored by the following organizations: The Associated Press, ABC News, CBS News, CNN, The Des Moines Register, Fox News, The Las Vegas Review Journal, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times, National Public Radio, Quinnipiac University, Reuters, the University of New Hampshire, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Washington Post and Winthrop University.

yes, he was all flash with little substance and there are several other announced dem candidates that cant wipe him off the map

Reportedly about 35 people today at his campus rally in Las Vegas

Key aides leave O'Rourke's campaign: report

The problem is, he's making too big a leap.

If you've just lost a Senate race and don't hold elected office, it's a big leap to turn around and run for President.

Mayor Pete may only be a mayor, but at least he currently holds elected office.

Beto today in Vegas. His crowd was so small they had to move it from an outside venue to inside.

A local pointed out that students are not around campus on Friday afternoon. Several students said there was no signage or advertising and they had no idea he was there.

I think he’s lying low because he’s lost interest in running and is now just hoping to pick up a VP spot

Here’s the venue they moved from, with the turnout.

train wreck

R94, I think he’s lying low because he doesn’t have his policies in order yet and won’t appear and answer questions on national television without being prepared.

That’s probably a good idea, but this year we’re starting unusually early and he needs to be on TV. A lot of people outside Texas know next to nothing about him, and hiding from cameras isn’t going to help.

He's now taking lobbyist money.

He is? Even Pete stopped taking lobbyist money.

Yeah, R99, there's an article this week saying Pete is returning lobbyist money.

Over privileged, next door white boy.

Capiche?

Beto should have run for the other Texas Senate seat in 2020 against John Cornyn.

People got a chance to compare Pete and Beto. Although young, Pete came across as mature and thoughtful and willing to separate from the pack ("No, I wouldn't allow felons to vote!"). Beto looked ridiculous with his flailing arms and middle-aged skateboarder persona. Pete will flourish in the debates, Beto will embarrass himself. The only candidate worse in the entire pack is Booker.

We have a long way to go. I hope everyone hangs in for a couple of debates

[quote]The only candidate worse in the entire pack is Booker.

Booker must be flaming mad that an openly gay man is getting much more attention than him!

Beto? Beto who?

All Beto has to do is say " I sucked cocked once in college" and he'll leave Pete in the dust

the killing children story was more than creepy. his qualification is losing an election

The verb is "crown," not "coronate," R44.

Beto seems like someone who had nothing better to do so he ran for office. He didn't have a real job until 2005 (he was 33) and he ran for El Paso City Council. And even that required his parents' help as they were political operatives in TX. He's a drifter. I can't take someone like him seriously.

R110, what the hell did he do before 2005? Did he spend all that time skateboarding and playing in his band? Can anyone imagine a female or black candidate having that background and not being laughed off the stage? Well, maybe we're finally getting to a place where white, het males will be held to the same standard.

[quote]I will say this: I don't count him out. Almost every other announced candidate has done a national town hall except him. I still want to hear him, and if I have to wait until the June debates, so be it. There's lots of time for him to still impress us, if he can.

I'd say there's a reason he's avoided town halls and that's not going to solve itself in two months.

Beto should have stepped back and found a way to gain experience and gravitas. After losing the race in 2018, he could have found or formed a non-profit to tackle some big projects.

But I think he believed his own hype.

Twitter is having a field day with this:

Annie @AnnieLinskey

Beto says he wants farm to table restaurants in *every* community when asked about poor nutrition in many places

@LadaMokusa

‘Let them eat organic, farm to table restaurant food.’ - Beto Antoinette

Here’s another tweet about it:

Not a single farm to table in my city affordable to anyone but upper middle class. Whew, I want to love him, but he really is a billionaire’s son in law.

It’s a pretty funny thread.

Love Beto

So embarrassing.

Farm to Table? I'm more interested in knowing Beto's opinion on Ass to Mouth.

[quote]Right wing site

Right wing site from a poster who hates Democrats.

- Beto 2020 (Part 3)

[quote]I'm still having an issue of style over substance with Beto. [bold]And there is also the issue of his rap sheet.[/bold]

- Leen Dweik: Idiot at NYU who berated Chelsea Clinton

[quote][bold]Most of you have your heads so far up HRC's butt that you can't see that she is a war criminal. It is because of the likes of you that Trump won.[/bold] Chelsea Clinton is part of the elite and shares in the spoils. And instead you take on a brave young woman because she chose to face the orthodoxy.

[quote][bold]I hope Bernie gets elected and gives Leen Dweik some type of position in the White House, just so I can watch all of you melt down once again.[/bold]

- Mueller Delivers Report

[quote][bold]Should there be consequences for those who've been ginning up this anti-Russian hysteria for years now, when it proves to be a nothing burger?[/bold]

[quote]There should be [R192]. I think Maddow will pay dearly for her role in this.

[quote]But [R302] [bold]outside of a couple coastal bubbles I don't think most Americans care about this.[/bold] And at the end of the day it's all about the will of the American people. [bold]I feel bad for Mueller, having to become the patron saint of wackos like Maddow for so long.[/bold] I'm sure he never wanted any of this.

[quote][bold]If a blue state like New York goes after Trump, how well is that going to play out in the middle of the country?[/bold]

[quote]This report should be Rachel's "Geraldo moment" where the vault is opened and nothing is inside. She's spent years pimping this out instead of doing real journalism. Those tears were for herself and her career.

[quote]She has a lot to answer for [R508]. Sadly her viewers seem seem to crave the pablum she spoons out.

-- The demand for Trump's tax returns

[quote][bold]I don't get it. From what I understand there's no law that a president must show tax returns?[/bold]

A year from now Beto will be on Dancing With the Stars.

What's wrong with Dancing With the Stars?

He should have run against Cornyn. Fucking entitled egomaniac.

He thought his midlife/existential crisis entitled him to be president

Put a fork in him

[quote]Pete will flourish in the debates, Beto will embarrass himself.

I'm not so sure - IF he comes up with something substantive to say. Which given farm to table, seems a big if. Yet in media he keeps being described as a centrist. He doesn't seem terribly centrist to me... at least he doesn't sound it. Eventually he'll be branded full on Peter Pan if he isn't careful.

I think he's interesting and thoughtful, but he needs seasoning. He should run for Senate and build a profile there.

[quote]The only candidate worse in the entire pack is Booker.

Booker tries so hard to be the communicator he will never be. He might even wind up losing that one to Amy Klobuchar or Liz 'tearin' babies from their momma's arms' Warren.

I think Beto is considered to be a “centrist” because he’s a Democrat in Texas. Even people who don’t know anything about him would assume he has to be.

In fairness, Bernie didn't have a job until he was 40 y.o.

"According to The Washington Post, O’Rourke and his wife reported a total income of $370,412 in 2017, the most recent year for which they released a return. Plugging that figure into a Pew Research Center tax calculator means that the O’Rourke family is well within the top 10 percent of income earners in El Paso, Texas. There’s no reason to begrudge their wealth, particularly when it’s earned. Yet, the O’Rourkes reported only $1,166 of charitable giving that year — a total, the Post also notes, that constitutes “one-third of 1 percent” of the family’s income.

The O’Rourkes, apparently, are not among the more generous Americans; $1,166 is a surprisingly small sum for anyone of means, let alone a policymaker whose net worth was about $9 million in 2015, ranking him 51st out of 435 members in the House of Representatives in terms of wealth. And it’s appallingly small for a presidential candidate whose platform includes all sorts of progressive economic programming that would increase taxes on middle-class incomes, such as a $15 minimum wage and Medicare for All.

I’m not the only person who has noticed this disconnect. At a campaign event in Virginia on Tuesday, a student asked O’Rourke, [bold]“Why, as someone who earns seven times the amount of income as (her sister), a recent college graduate, does, (O’Rourke) gives less in charitable donations … ?”[/bold]

In reply, the former El Paso congressman pointed first to his public service, then hinted that he and his wife didn’t keep comprehensive records of many of their donations. [bold]But it wasn’t just bad accounting, O’Rourke continued. His generosity is exhibited by his gift of self. “I’m doing everything I can right now,” he said, “spending this time with you, not with our kiddos, not back home in El Paso, because I want to sacrifice everything to make sure that we meet this moment of truth with everything that we’ve got.”

The crux of his defense, it seems, is that his decision to run for president is his true charity.[/bold]

Mayor Pete has unseated him.

Kind of pathetic. And the money he "earns" is family money. In-laws are filthy rich.

Only 15% of people of 18-29 years of age came out to vote in 2018. Beto is doomed in Texas. Just sad.

I'm retired, living on savings and Social Security until I tap my IRA in two or three years (or maybe five if new legislation passes). In 2018 I had an AGI of $14,400.

I didn't include them all because I don't have receipts for them all and I still deducted more in charitable contributions than did the O'Rourkes.

And I can't deduct the $100 I donated to his Senate race.

I'm not sure how much Mayor Pete unseated him as Beto unseated himself. The guy comes across as arrogant in a clueless way. He's Trudeau the younger, maximum dose.

Beto & wife are worth $9 million. In-Laws are worth $500 million -$1 billion based on estimates.

Beto insinuates gratifying his ego by running for President, while neglecting his kids, is a charitable contribution, so he doesn’t have to make actual charitable contributions.

Then says the solution to not enough good nutritional foods (presumably for the poor) is high end restaurants with fresh local foods.

Who are the people that like this guy?

Humblebrag POOR alert at R131

I like this guy and gave to his campaign

He comes across as a complete airhead. I'm not surprised Mayor Pete (at least for now) mopped the floor with him.

Mayor Pete is much smarter and more authentic than Robert.

R137 Totally agree And When asked how he would handle Trump, Mayor Pete said, “I grew up gay in Indiana, I know how to handle a bully.” And a gay guy can mop up a diva drama queen in the debates as well.

He’s perfect as an empty suit. Beto is no more dumber ( far less so in fact ) than the current orange ignoramus.

And at least he’s not too old and senile like Biden or Sanders.

This is no joke, but I had to check the news to confirm that Beto announced his candidacy in mid-March. I was out of the country so that may be why I missed it. All this time I had no idea because I've been focused on Mayor Pete's rise.

BTW, I've seen the full list of candidates, RepEric Swalwell wins the most fuckable award in my book.

I laugh every time I see people on DL ask for a Pete/Beto ticket, or Beto/Pete. As if someone, as accomplished as Mayor Pete, should saddle the ticket with a trust fund hippie over worthy companions like Warren or Harris.

Pete seems to always be working or striving for the next challenge. Beto gives me Selina Meyer, fine for Senator but a disaster as a President or Veep.

Agreed R140 Would also give mayor Pete silver And Beto bronze

Reading that crap at R127 makes me actually hate him. Asshole. You know that right now he's googling to try to find out if it's definitely too late to challenge Cornyn. Fucking Dems messed this Texas chance up royally. Beto running for President and a stinking Castro brother running against Cornyn? Genius. Beto's ego at the bottom of it all.

I agree, r143, also I can't wait for the Casto brothers to disappear.

I think this Mayor Pete sets himself apart from the others because he has a better education, runs a city (not that impressive though), is a gay man, and served in the military. Being gay is a big deal. Being a veteran is rare in the Democratic field (minus Biden). He really sets himself beyond the pack. What does Beto bring?

Well said R144 And I’ll vote for the guy who ran a city, got re-elected with 80%, over the guy who bancrupted four companies and brags about not paying contractora for services rendered.

His campaign add shows him at some campaign rally sweaty as hell. Who are they trying to entice with that, as their first image?

I sweat at the first sign of heat, but I wouldn't that biological function plastered on the front page of my campaign website.

Oprah and Annie Leibovitz must feel like complete muppets right now. They thought they had fingers on the zeitgeist, jumping early on the wagon, but he’s turned out to be a complete waste of their times.

[quote]He's Trudeau the younger, maximum dose.

Keep in mind that Trudeau, whatever his flaws, is still a very successful politician.

Trudeau became the Prime Minister of Canada, so he has already achieved the top spot in Canada. He may or may not get reelected this year, but he's far ahead of Beto.

[quote]Being gay is a big deal.

Only if he's already the best man for the job. If there's someone better qualified, I'm not voting for him just because he's gay.

He was the tall handsome guy who walked into the dance. But once you got too close, you realized he was kinda goofy and a little dumb. Then you turned around and bumped into Pete.

[quote]Then you turned around and bumped into Pete...

and tripped because you forgot to wear your glasses.

Another Washington Post reporter who was at that same event had a different take on the "farm to table" thing: "Beto gets a question about nutrition; he has a very handy series of answers based on conversations with people in food deserts, says farm bill should factor in nutrition more than it does."

r154 great, so another reason for them to increase prices? Why not talk about the food that the gov purchases to waste or change the rules on the type of food that can be purchased through food stamps? HSA accounts have stipulations on the items that can be covered, so the technology is out there. Once that occurs food marts will follow this trend to ensure that they can maintain the WIC funds.

Finally, this is where Michelle's healthy lunch initiative could have been helpful. Children should only be fed healthy balanced meals. Parents or their kids don't like it, then they should find a job or the money to bring their own lunch. When you are eating off of the government or paying for a government meal, you get what you get.

Beto's answer was not fleshed out.

WIC foods should be expanded to encourage more fruits and vegetables. Look in the signs in the market some time. It’s geared to benefit meat and dairy farmers, not to feed people properly.

WTF: I saw a sign in the window of a convenience store saying an 11" pizza for $7.99 was "WIC Eligible." I've got nothing against pizza (OK, maybe not a pizza from 7-11) but how is that healthy?

Isn't Beto's answer regarding charitable contributions similar to something Mitt! said when he was running? I'm going to try to find it.

Beto is on Chris Hayes (MSNBC) tonight.

[quote]Oprah and Annie Leibovitz must feel like complete muppets right now.

Other way around... I think after this we can safely rule out as a viable, resonant tactic the strategy of by Annie for Vanity Fair. At least I hope so.

Biden declaring hurt Beto the most. He’s down to 4% in the polls.

I think Seth Moulton is the most fuckable candidate.

I can't picture Sanders wife as First Lady.

Beto drew a crowd of thirty-five people last weekend in Las Vegas while over ten thousand turned out to hear Trump speak in Wisconsin.

Beto’s advance people did no advertising for the event. Then they did it on a Friday night when students are going out. They interviewed students who were actually there on campus at the time, and they said there was no signage and they had no idea Beto was on campus.

His advance people must be terrible. But I do think Pete got a lot of the Beto momentum.

The media will fuck over the Dems again. MARK MY WORDS!

So is the media to blame or did Beto stumble over his own feet?

"I think Seth Moulton is the most fuckable candidate."

I think Seth Moulton is the most-fucked-up candidate. He's an opportunist who has accomplished nothing except pissing off his colleagues.

And fuckable? Jee-zus: Seth "Doughface" Moulton? He looks like Pat Buchanan.

R167 dates anorexic twinks, age18-22 ONLY.

R162, are you blind? Moulton is ugly as fuck.

R169, suffice it to say we have extremely different tastes.

r170 Which is to say that r169 HAS taste and you do not.

This thread has gotten derailed and off topic from Beto, so that may answer your question, OP.

If he goes below 3% in the polls it’s over. Same thing happened to Booker and Kloubachar who looked formidable on paper.

He might get relevant again.

You consider him ugly AF?

R169 must have some very specific fetish, like petit Asian twinks.

[QUOTE] Same thing happened to Booker and Kloubachar who looked formidable on paper.

Booker had his "I am Spartacus" moment, which sunk him.

No one out in the country knew who Klobuchar was. Zero Name recogition outside her state.

I think it's hilarious how people think they can predict the future when it comes to politics.

Is Nate Silver still a thing? What does he think?

R179 he’s a person, not a thing, and he is still a person.