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Bring the draft back! Let's see if the US goes to war in other countries so cavalierly.

Agree?

by Anonymousreply 24April 23, 2019 11:14 PM

Make the sons and daughters of the one percent all serve.

by Anonymousreply 1April 21, 2019 12:30 AM

I have mixed feelings about a drat; however, I believe we need shared responsibilities, shared experiences, for a democracy to function.

This means: no private prisons. No private military. And public schools need to be funded and staffed so that people are happy for their kids to get an education there.

by Anonymousreply 2April 21, 2019 1:00 AM

Commie

by Anonymousreply 3April 21, 2019 1:15 AM

Private military, in the guise of contractors, Halliburton, etc., present a risk to public safety. Imagine if Trump had a private Army at his disposal.

I found it annoying when the US tried to contract-Out the security force in the Baghdad embassy, in lieu of the usual Marine guard.

by Anonymousreply 4April 21, 2019 1:21 AM

I actually think bringing back the draft is a great idea.

It could function on the Swiss or Israeli model where it was mostly a time of national service, e.g., teaching in underpriviliged areas, building roads, etc., but with military training. Both males and females would need to serve.

It would serve two important purposes:

1. It would make everyone very aware of what goes into an army and a war, that it's not just some video game with drones

2. It would instill a sense of national service and patriotism in young people, foster independence and the children of the upper middle classes (the top 20%) would be forced to interact with everyone else as equals--and vice versa--which would help break down barriers and promote understanding.

It could also serve as a technical training program for many jobs so that college, especially the for-profit colleges that rip off the working classes--would not be as necessary to get a job, and those kids would not be in debt.

by Anonymousreply 5April 21, 2019 1:33 AM

Send Jr and Tonto first.

by Anonymousreply 6April 21, 2019 2:15 AM

You make way too much sense, r5.

by Anonymousreply 7April 21, 2019 6:46 AM

r5 is Mayor Pete

by Anonymousreply 8April 21, 2019 6:49 AM

No, I do not agree.

by Anonymousreply 9April 21, 2019 8:53 AM

R4 A country's security should not be answerable to a company's shareholders.

by Anonymousreply 10April 21, 2019 8:32 PM

R5 is right. Right now, the military goes to war. The rest of the country goes on it’s merry way.

by Anonymousreply 11April 21, 2019 8:37 PM

A draft would not solve the problem of rich people and government relatives getting all the deferments they want. Because why should any of them go fight a war with the common folk?

Otherwise, a resounding no to a draft. Do you think people should have been forced to go fight in Iraq, even when they knew it was based on lies? And what would it have accomplished? More casualties.

A more rational idea would be to increase volunteering in this country. High school kids should be required to spend a certain number of hours doing volunteer work in order to graduate. Work in soup kitchens, homeless shelters, volunteer at crisis centers, GLBT centers, work with veterans. It would expand their frame of reference and get them to develop empathy with others.

by Anonymousreply 12April 21, 2019 8:45 PM

Required volunteerism? An oxymoron?

by Anonymousreply 13April 21, 2019 8:55 PM

Not forgetting that DeVos' brother created Blackwater.

by Anonymousreply 14April 21, 2019 8:58 PM

2002 called.

It needs your brilliant observations.

by Anonymousreply 15April 21, 2019 10:56 PM

R12 Simple. Make it required - everyone, male or female, straight, gay, trans, rich or poor does a gap year or something like it. Except they do it in the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard, or USPHS.

Bone spurs? No exceptions.

Rich? No exceptions.

Social Media Influencer? No exceptions. (and your phone is going in this locking plastic bag. You can have it back when you leave.)

by Anonymousreply 16April 21, 2019 11:03 PM

You should all read Rachel Maddow's book Drift.

She quite nicely articulates a cogent position regarding the draft and how eliminating it actually had far reaching impacts on policy.

by Anonymousreply 17April 21, 2019 11:10 PM

R12 go back and rethink.

You make the case for a draft but say you're against it. And then suggest a rational solution that is irrational.

You must be hilarious to hang out with if you don't get violent when you're off your meds.

by Anonymousreply 18April 22, 2019 12:02 AM

[quote]You must be hilarious to hang out with if you don't get violent when you're off your meds.

The inbreeder is getting clever! Been learnin' dem fancy words, eh?

Now go masturbate in your 'Mercian flag as you read R16.

Rational, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 19April 22, 2019 12:28 AM

R12 just repeats R5 without using the word "draft" and including "LGBT Centers" as places needing government handouts.

by Anonymousreply 20April 22, 2019 12:38 AM

A private military is anti-Democratic and will eventually end in a police state.

by Anonymousreply 21April 22, 2019 12:38 AM

R20 seriously doesn't know the difference between military action in another country and volunteering ones time in LGBT center and or working with other people at need or at risk.

Uh, for one thing, you're not armed with weapons when you're going to volunteer your time.

The sad part is that this doesn't seem like trolling.

by Anonymousreply 22April 22, 2019 12:46 AM

Yum.

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by Anonymousreply 23April 22, 2019 1:02 AM

Should gays be exempt? Lesbians to the head of the line of course. I'd feel safer with hairy muscular lesbians guarding my country.

by Anonymousreply 24April 23, 2019 11:14 PM
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