The Ten Commandments 2019

Oh Moses, Moses!

I would have picked Ramses.

What time?

This photo should be hanging in a museum! rofl

Talk about hamming it up.

It's different all over R3, but I think it starts at 8 pm Eastern and 7 pm Central.

Arms for days!

So soll man es schreiben! So soll es geschehen!

R3, it's on at 7pm Eastern according to this...

Yul Brenner. Yum.

Thanks, OP.

I just checked my onscreen cable guide and it says 8 p.m. (I'm in NYC).

More yum.

Vincent Price and friend.

Even though Heston was a Republican and a member of the NRA, I still like him and his hairy chest.

R13, he wasn't always.He went down to Selma to march with Harry Belafonte and Sammy Davis Jr. and Dr. King.He was a very pro-civil rights Democrat back in the day.

[quote] Vincent Price and friend

Lol. Even back in the stone age, everyone knew that he was a queen!

Thanks for the info, R14. When he was in that documentary where Michael Moore was grilling him about his support for the NRA, Heston was classy and respectful, not an obnoxious gun nut.

John Derek, Charlton Heston, Yul Brynner! So much hotness.

Moses seemed like such a killjoy in this. Why Nefertiri wanted him after he returned makes no sense.

R19: She got a glimpse of what was under his male skirt and still wanted it all those years later.

AND ITS ON NOW BITCHES!!!

Every newborn Hebrew man child shall die.

It’s not on where I live, the guide says it should be on, but my ABC station has “Wheel of Fortune” instead, I’m pissed, was looking forward to the campfest.

R22: What time zone are you in? For what is there in your heart, but a dead TV schedule?

Eastern time zone, the Fios guide shows it at 7pm, but our local station appears to not be carrying it.

Repeating in the Central Time Zone in Chicago, it is on now.

I send Moses to destroy a city, and he returns in triumph. I send you to build a city.....where is it?

Woo hoo!!! Gonna triple up on the edibles!!

R24: Maybe they will be on a hour delay? This is why the US Broadcasting system is screwy as fuck.

I downloaded the ABC app on my firestick, but for some reason it says that the live stream is unavailable....useless.

If a myth bring him to me in a bottle, if a man....bring him to me in chains.

Kinky.

again? every easter or religious holiday? when do we get the 10 commandments? or was that a film? i know it got 2 tablets on a rating system somewhere....

this is It's a Wonderful life of Easter

why don't they remake these films? if these dudes and bitches weren't super heroes no one was.... not watching. not making popcorn.

but knock yerselves out.

God, I love Technicolor!

"King of Kings" is on TCM tomorrow night.

R28: The ABC website stream requires a login to your pay TV provider. Maybe try that?

"10 Cmd" is on at 7PM/6 Central on ABC tonight. So it's already on in the east. It's four+ hours long (with commercials, so it has to start at 7 in order to end by 11. (It actually runs until 11:44 PM Eastern/10:44 Central.)

Your tongue will dig your grave, Mehmnet.

Oh, Moses, Moses, you stubborn, splendid, adorable fool!

One of my favorite lines:

Joshua: God made men, men made slaves.

Moses: Which god?

Remember the parting of the Red Sea at universal studios?

Slaves draw bricks, my horses draw the next Pharaoh.

R33 apparently I’m in an unsupported location, sorry that I’m going to miss following along, it’s always fun.

R40: Well I guess they'll be starting it in 20 minutes in your locale. So not so far away. ....You crocodile.

That's a stupid game. Having a bunch of sticks as dice is pointless.

R42: I've actually always been curious how it worked lol.

Did you hear that? Other matters!?

Its been on since 7pm NYC ABC NETWORK

Oh, he's so manly. Swoon.

Love how Bithiah shows up with a kid and no one bats an eye, despite never having seen her pregnant and having a dead husband.

It's not like you can shake long sticks the way you shake dice so how do you know what the count is when you drop them down??

If it is possible, it gets worse every year. Anne Baxter gives the most over-the-top, hammiest performance ever filmed. It is also the absolute worst costuming ever.

R47: Well you could cut them to have four sides at the tops...

R46: I've often thought she moved away in mourning, stayed away for a year, then came back saying, surprise I was pregnant when he died.

TTC is not yet broadcasting out here on the Left coast.

That cloth isn't exactly DNA proof of anything. Why would anyone listen to that old woman?

R51: Long time servant of the royal family. Plus she can find Yoschebel and Miriam.

And your shroud!!!! You think I care whose son he is!!!!!!!

She's acting too guilty. She should act grief-stricken.

And . . .

The Holy Scriptures

She should act.

Moses, Moses, Moses.

It just started here on the East Coast, an hour late. Thank you local ABC affiliate, God forbid we miss “Jeopardy”.

I love you. That's the only truth I know.....

They treat him as a god!

I prefer him as a MAN!

Sweaty slave Moses is Peak Charlton Heston.

Moses, Moses!

I just switched on the SAP so I'm hearing it in SPANISH.

I wonder when I'm gonna start freaking out.

Fun fact: Anne Baxter was DeMille' s original choice to play Delilah in Samson and Delilah but she turned it down to do a bottle movie called All About Eve...

Anne Baxter's performance.

Re:61

Oops I meant little

If they ever remake it Frances Conroy should play Memnet, they resemble each other.

You just know Nefertiri's throne is soaking by the way she's staring at Moses.

This movie portrays the primordial view of identity, that your birth determines your faith and tribe and longing and where you belong. It is a view that is challenge by the view of constructivist and instrumentalist scholars who content that identity is created either by elites or by the populace and is malleable, or even completely a matter of choice to benefit one in a shifting context.

Words, words, words....

TTCs starts at 8 pm on the Left coast.

R67: You'll be up past Midnight. And on Passover no less! How will you make it to Easter Vigil Mass?

Bakka must of needed a beard for Sethi's jubilee.

Tu lengua cavará tu tumba, Memnet.

Worship whatever God you please, so long as I can worship you...

....

R72: The purity of white to calm the blush of your passion my dear.

Death cometh to me . . .

See that his arms are tightly stretched!

R74: She's very baritone when she sings that song. Very bottomy and manly... Must be what Joshua liked about her.

R75: Kinky.

Who is she to you?

An old woman.

[quote]She's very baritone when she sings that song. Very bottomy and manly... Must be what Joshua liked about her.

Just like that big queen Baka, R76.

Both Charlton Heston and Anne Baxter were born in 1923 but she plays his adoptive mother? I guess DeMille really wanted her for the part. He wasn't going to let something as trivial as age get in the way.

R79: The pharaohs like their images cut deep!

^^ No. Anne was Nefertiti to Charlton's Moses.

The DL dancers are now performing.

[quote]No. Anne was Nefertiti to Charlton's Moses.

Silly me. Bithiah is the adoptive mother. I haven't seen it for awhile. I had to check the plot on wikipedia.

Sethi just used the FF and ignore button on Bithia.

¡Oh, Moisés, Moisés, necio, espléndido y adorable tonto!

What I do now,I am compelled to do!

Hear what I say,Ramses! Trust no woman!

Ten Commandments threads always do well on dL. Well done for its time, but not the fun camp fest you guys make it out to be. I kept waiting to laugh and never did.

But Nina Foch was a year younger than Heston.

R88: Sethi IS a DLer. I knew it!

OK. Here's what I never got: WTF did Moses tell? He would have been Pharoah. He could have done anything he wanted, including free the slaves. But instead, he gives up everything and blows his inheritance.

This was supposed to be a vehicle for Heston,but Yul Brynner in a"supporting role" stole the movie right out from under him.

R92: See my post at R66. He clung to his primordial identity.

Dathan seems rather...dainty. I wonder if his new house is tastefully decorated?

Heston certainly looked fine in his Egyptian finery, especially in the scene where Nefertiri admits Moses’s true parentage. Love the enameled collar and the gold cuffs, looks great with his gauzy skirt.

I coulda played Moses, I coulda played Ramses, I coulda been a contendah!

"Give me his binding pole."

Lazy motherfucker.

What did you say, Bitch?

Here now the 7 daughters of Jethro are the personification of Datalounge!

People talking about if or when they remake it, remember when ABC and Hallmark tried that in 2006? They made a new miniseries and it was horrible. Thankfully they still showed the good one, too.

DL fave Yvonne DeCarlo and her giggling sisters "A MAN!"

Yul Brynner looks like a midget next to Chuck Heston in the scene where Ramses banishes Moses, Yul was 5ft8 to Chuck' s 6ft3

Where did they get all the colorful dyes to dye their dresses??

It's not a documentary, R103.

R103: Organic products.

Live stream

"Let us break bread while my daughter brings meat".

R107: I just burst out laughing at that line.

Moses will learn from Lily Munster.

It looks like they are eating mud, arugula, and dipping salsa.

R109: Loose meat sandwiches....

"You're not a god. You're not even a MAN!!!"

Can a man judge God?

Moses is fine!

Sephora is the Gloria Steinem of Sinai! She will dance for the men.

This is the closest thing to stripping in ancient times

She will NOT dance for the men! Oh, dear myself.

My (whose name cannot be spoken) they were gorgeous. Any Chuck nudes? biblically speaking.

[quote] why don't they remake these films?

I think they did re-make the movie, but I can't find it through google. But I swear they did!

[quote] so long as I can worship you...

Nefirtiri sounded like a pig bottom, R70!

[quote] The DL dancers are now performing.

I love them! "And such byoooootiful distraction...." says Nefirtiri.

There aren't many black people in the movie, but they really gave it their all in the movie.

What did Nefirtiri say here that made Queen Sethi look so surprised???

Pause while all the queens savor John Derek getting whipped.

"Moses! There is a man among the sheep!!"

Here's a real man!

R119: She was agreeing with the High Priest giving the blessings of many gods to Moses on his return from Ethiopia. She said she agrees with the "old windbag" as Sethi called him.

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I think that's Woody Strode

Audrey Hepburn bangs on the Aussie Queen of Egypt. Love the sound track.

I would have loved to be in that costume fitting to hear what Edward G Robinson said when he was first presented his one-sided poncho.

R120. It’s hard not to appreciate how gorgeous John Derek was.

What about Yul Brynner's black stretch leotard with the matching pleated mini-skirt and gold seqinned edging??

Getting ready for the reveal!

Check this out!

They've both been very bad, very dirty boyz!

There was a 2006 TV movie "The Ten Commandments" starring Dougray Scott (Fear the Walking Dead) as Moses.

Joshua getting whipped!

I am that I am, if you know what I mean. Do ya?

Philosophy is a talk on a cereal box, religion is a smile on a dog.

Miss Price must have LOVED this scene...

R134: "Did you know, my boy, this whip handle was forged from the silver mines of Libya? When you've been whipped red and given corner time, then you will enjoy the sweet wine of my love."

Mel Gibson should remake it, starring Angelina Jolie, The Rock, Bradley Cooper, Rooney Mara.....Meryl Streep playing someone old....

My god, tits everywhere! That makeup wagon must have been rocking!

I AM SMITHERS!

Aaron, cast down my staff!

Lazy motherfucker.

Snake vs snake

HE HAS SEEN GOD!

So are Yul and Anne siblings AND spouses?

R143: That was a thing in ancient Egypt to keep the blood pure and royal. But DeMille kept it very vague and mum....

She wants that big Hebrew National dick. Can't blame a girl for trying.

[quote] Snake vs snake

Sounds hot!!!

John Derek was one of Henry Willson' s boys, so he was probably no stranger to the homosex.

That's some Bea Arthur hair on Chuck...he is so hot!

Neph's left tit is certainly on display.

Did you know that Joshua's girlfriend Sephora, later became Lily Munster?? rofl

Boy, that Yvonne De Carlo had a very lengthy career.

R149: How else is she going to harden Pharaoh's part?

CHEAP Trick? You talk like that in your gold sarong? Cunt!

There is no more embarrassing display captured on film than Anne Baxter's in this movie.

Wait. You haven't seen Yvonne de Carlo yet, r153.

No one believes in this shit anymore.

r155 Did you ask the Repugs?

I'm with you, R153.

I thought that Anne Baxter chewed up the scenery in "All About Eve," but that was NOTHING compared to Ten Commandments.

She upped the camp factor by 10 times!

Lucky Bo Derek. She got that John Derek dick!

Hunny Ida kilt that woman, the way she was talkin' to Pharaoh mocking him 'n all.

"No one believes in this shit anymore."

Do you think they'd broadcast the damned thing year after year if people didn't? It's only one step removed from going to Mass!

R150, You mean Moses. Moses' girlfriend/wife Zipporah (Sephora, in the film) was played by Yvonne DeCarlo. Joshua's girl, Lilia was played by Debra Paget.

Come to me no more Moses. For on the day you see my face again, you will surely DIE!

Ramses has the ultimate FF and block buttons.

I want a Ramses' falcon caftan and gold slippers...and earring.

My favorite scenes are the ones with the Golden Calf.

Thanks for clearling that up, R161!

I get all of the ladies confused, because they look very similar.

Bithia, Nefirtiri, Sephora and Lilia all look alike!

Blood of 1000 cunts

Anne Baxter is the best thing in this mess.

Ramses had the best lines. And I loved the way he gestured; that dismissive wave of his hand.

Neferteri fucked up but at least she got Sephora and Gershwin out of danger's way, so he can live and write his musicals. Points for that.

I disagree. I love Yul Brynner in this. Chuck was mouthing God shit, and Ramses was being a boss.

R166: The Nile is bleeding out of it's whatever.

Watching the golden calf scene makes me feel dirty!

And it was all Dathan's fault!

He sure was a shit stirrer.

YOu forgot to sign DJT at R171.

I love the Passover and Moses's mother, the Queens', house call.

Brynner had gorgeous legs.

The scene with the plague of death, used to terrify me as a child.

That green smoke was creepy, yet very effective.

[quote] Brynner had gorgeous legs.

I'm surprised that no one has posted the obligatory cock shot yet.

[quote] now the 7 daughters of Jethro are the personification of Datalounge!

Was one of them named Jethrene?

Where's your messiah NOW?

He has it coming... he has it coming ...

"You've been drinking honey wine!" :D

So let it be written. So let it be hung.

Here Lilia is with her manly singing. Joshua can't help but come to her when she sings, if you know what I mean...

I know a Hispanic woman named Lilia. It's a pretty name.

[quote] Was one of them named Jethrene?

Yes, but she's FTM trans, so she no longer goes by that name.

She prefers Joseph now.

Let my headshots go.

R185: Jethro Q. Walrus Titty

I love how Moses' family hates Ma. Crazy monotheists.

How did these B actresses Anne Baxter, Yvonne deCarlo and Debra Paget ever get cast in this mega epic? Did Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly all turn CB down?

I think Baxter is sublimely appropriate within the context of this huge film's campy extravagance and dialogue. She actually does it all justice and fits into it well.

Thank you, R182.

Finally, the obligatory YUL BRYNNER COCK SHOT!

Holy Moses.

I can drape fabric too, BITCH!

The Egyptian who served as Moses's mother and raised him, resembles Freda Payne.

"Death cometh to me... so please let me pee.... "

That's the same woman who played his mother in Ben Hur, Martha Scott.

R186, that photo speaks volumes. Chuck with chains around his bare sweaty chest,and Yul Brynner leering while he took his shot.

R193: Bithia. Though he should have called her Ma....

Fun fact: Heston's sister's name was Lilla (one letter away from Lilia)--it was their mother's name also. Chuck and Lilla were none too fond of each other. She refused to cancel a rehearsal for a show she was directing (I was in it) the night we was given the Jean Horsholt Humanitarian Award at the Oscars.

It's great to be able to see these events that happened so many years ago.

^^^Only on the History Channel^^^^

Boy, when the Hebrews go on vacation, they pack EVERYTHING!!!

And now, Yul in DRAG!

[quote] Boy, when the Hebrews go on vacation, they pack EVERYTHING!!!

They were just practicing for their move to Beverly Hills.

Still workin it beeotch

Yul you have lovely toes.

R193, R195, Moses' adoptive mother, Bithia, is played by Nina Foch, who was a year younger than Heston. Martha Scott played Moses' birth mother Yoshabel.

Bubbie ..guess who's coming to seder?

Barry Gibb, R206?

It's COMING... It's COMING!

Mt Rushmore school of acting.

R188, Audrey Hepburn was CB DeMille's first choice to play Nefertiri, but he realized she was too skinny to wear those slinky diaphanous gowns. He also wanted Grace Kelly for Sephora, but she was unavailable, so he settled for Yvonne. CB should've been thrilled to get such talent at discount rates.

Script gal Lotte Lenya. Who knew.

That skyline behind Nefertiri looks suspiciously like Hoboken, NJ.

Remember Gus ...my safe word is NRA

How could Joshua know that was Yul's chariot from that distance? His eyesight might have been incredible.

Oye what a schlep.

Princess to Princess. who has the bigger pyramid?

Some of those people are moving too slow. They're going to drown.

Moses turns the water back on but some of his people are getting wet. At least move them to higher ground first.

Race ya . Loser fucks Judy Anderson.

Anne Baxter is not Moses' mom, she's a princess who wants to marry him. Get with it.

"Is your life worth so much?"

Lilia bringing ALL the shade!

Perhaps they didn’t practice primogeniture but one thing I never understood was how Ramses survived the last plague. As Pharaoh, wouldn’t he have been the first born as well? Of course, it doesn’t work out that way in the Bible either but it never made sense to me.

Ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille!

R222: The plagues were to affect Pharaoh. He must be alive to experience them.

Now the CHARIOTS!!! RUN!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.and you croak in the third reel. The end.

Edward G's robe looks so clean after trampling around in the dirt for so long.

"Beauty is but a curse to our women."

Nothing warms my cold, dead heart like the yearly Ten Commandments thread.

How drunk would Neferteri and Ramses have to get in the future to have more kids to secure the dynasty?

We sympathize.

Golden Calf. Boring. The Chinese at least put effort into their gods. Get with it, Hebrews.

Olive Deering!

I just bopped into a little corner store and there's a big tv and the clerk was watching some dumb shit on TBS and I said, "Hey, you are missing THE TEN COMMANDMENTS on channel seven! It's super cheesy, you should check it out."" and he changed the channel and started watching right when Moses stops the giant rock from smashing his ma like a tiny bug. He says, "Aw, this looks like something my dad would watch. It IS really cheesy!" Then Joshua was being held back and writhed, gleaming with sweat in his bondage strap outfit, and I told him, "It's also really homoerotic!" He laughed and said, "More oil on his pecs! More oil!" It's always fun to enhance youthful lives.

PS Nefertiri REALLY wants to fuck muddy sweaty Moses, Moses!

Hell of a party at Sinai's. All the cool kids are going there.

Shit. Easter tomorrow morning. I DON'T WANNA GO TO CHURCH!! Same old stories with no encumbrance on my condition as a human.

The GOLDEN Heifer!

Yvonne De Carlo gets a raw deal. She's got to live the rest of her life alone because Moses needs to spend the rest of his in his Man Cave??

I wanna go to an African- American church for Easter. Are the guys at black churches of the light skinned or dark skinned variety?

That silver Minnie Mouse bow brooch holding Yul's blue cloak together is very unfortunate, esp. in such a tragic scene..

"I love you."

Moses: "I know".

It's like Han and Princess Leia.

Thou shalt NOT drop the Commandments!

They're blowing the chauffeur!

I've been an atheist for decades. I know Moses, Jesus, God, Satan et al are all the creation of men and nothing more. So the holy days well they don't hold me any longer.

SONG and REVELRY! Oh, MY!

I’m so dreading tomorrow, I just can’t stand the idea of it. This thread eases the pain a little

"Same old stories with no encumbrance on my condition as a human"

But they have, Blanche, they have.. Did you ever give up anything, diet, build a muscle, sacrifice yourself for a greater good? Well then, you died to your ego and were resurrected with new found wisdom, the Easter metaphor in a nutshell.

I am on the west coast. A few minutes ago I enjoyed the clapping, leaping dancing girls with the strings and balls hanging from their pony tails. Looking forward to the whirling leaping dance of seduction the desert sisters do to impress Moses, Moses before he picks humble Sephora (the oldest!) for his drudge.

Nerfertiri's costumes and hairstyle are a blatant Betty Page rip-off.

“I wish EVERY day was a shearing festival!”

I missed the beginning of the film.

Is Edward G Robinson playing a traitorous Jew who was working for Pharoah but is now escaping with the Israelites?

I only found out recently that the actor who play the child Eleazar also played the character Horace on The Beverly Hillbillies.

r249, congratulations on contributing the most obscure factoid I have ever encountered on Datalounge.

Do you realized that Nefertiri, who must marry then next Pharaoh of Egypt, is probably Ramses's sister?

That's why she has to marry the next ruler, to keep the bloodline as pure as possible.

The dialogue is so dreadfully bad.

And that song Debra Piaget sang, “Death cometh to me...to set me freeeee...”

Mock away but this film was made over 60 years ago and it still has an audience. Does anyone remember this piece of shit?

Our little mud blossom is still around. Looking damn good for 85yr

R249 for the win! This is exactly why we come here. Nowhere else would someone make that kind of effort. Bless.

I never noticed the goofy side lock of hair before!

They all had that, even Moses. Shaving it off was a sign of manhood.

[quote]It looks like they are eating mud, arugula, and dipping salsa.

They ate a lot of that in the movie.

Our Cissy from Family Affair had a few scenes!!!!

R169, and sell cosmetics!

Interesting timeline: The whole Moses saga went down about 1,500 years before the birth of Yeshua, and the Abraham/Sarah/Hagar live triangle and births of Isaac and Ishmael happened over 2,000 years before Jesus.

Happy Easter to all!

R261 Which is why I don't understand why they show this on Easter. Why not something that has to do with the Easter story? ("King of Kings" is on TCM tonight, but there are lots of other stories about the Easter story -- even "JC Superstar" would work.)

R262, who owns Hollywood and the entertainment industry? Who has always owned it? Don't jump on my ass just for stating the facts. Moses is to Jewish people what Jesus is to Christians.

Because R262, this is being shown for Passover!

Ben Hur is the Easter movie.

Doesn't the Plague of the Death of the Firstborn commemorate the week when the Plague "passed over" the Jewish households?

And then the Israelites were forced to leave Egypt so quickly (the exodus) there wasn't time to add yeast to the bread they were baking and thus matzoh was invented?

Some people are willful idiots.

An uncredited Herb Alpert is in there somewhere during the golden calf scene. He’s playing a trumpet.

Just kidding, he’s playing a drum with his back turned to the camera.

Well, I DVR'd it last night because that shit is way too long to watch in one pop. Off to see the second half now. Happy Easter, folks. He is risen.

"I never noticed the goofy side lock of hair before! "

That was something children wore, when they grew up they shaved their heads and wore wigs or not. Ramses was wearing the sidelock in the early scenes when he was a grown adult and heir to the throne, he was probably waaaaay too old for that cut.

By all rights Moses, Prince of Egypt, should have shaved his head as well, but Charlton Heston opted for a 1950s men's haircut instead, the fool.

It's really fascinating to look at Egyptian hieroglyphics and see how the Hollywood costume designers interpreted the clothing for the these Biblical films. The 10 Commandments costumes aren't as far off as one might think!

Damn, I saw the movie, of course, but completely forgot about this thread.

Reading it now and every year there is something different that some notice for the first time or some tidbit about the behind of scenes.

Cool

Happy Easter to all!

As R264 it is for Passover, but you have to remember Easter is linked to Passover, and therefore the movie is a perfect fit for both Jews and Christians to watch at this time of year. The Last Supper of Christ as presented in the Gospels, has connections to the Seder. Also, Christians view Jesus, himself, as the Passover Lamb. So Jews can watch it to see the story of Passover unfold on screen. Christians can watch it the night before Easter, seeing the Old Testament, and then go to church on Sunday, to see the story transformed in the New Testament, illustrating to Christians that there is NO Christianity without Judaism.

What R273 said, yes. The "Last Supper" commemorated on us Christians' Holy Thursday before Easter, was a Passover Seder. And Jesus didn't call or proclaim himself a Christian, he was and thought of himself as a Jew. So this particular year, as occurs in many, the Passover and Easter Holy Week intersected so that the airing of Ten Commandments fit in nicely this past Saturday night. There's so much history and interconnection between the two events and religions at this time of the year, it really is very interesting.

Y’all are devout as fuck in this thread. I’m just here for the lols.

R274 As a Christian, I believe that the Church fathers erred when they decided to adopt an independent calculation of Easter, it would be most appropriate that it should always coincide exactly with Passover.

King of Kings is on right now and it's not nearly as watchable as TTC. They needed Anne Baxter to liven things up.

They like Woody Strode so much that they used him twice in the same movie...magnificent looking man. He played for USC, worked as an artist’s model and film extra...he played both the King of Ethiopia and one of Bithia’s footmen. He was also good friends with John Ford...

[quote]Do you realized that Nefertiri, who must marry then next Pharaoh of Egypt, is probably Ramses's sister?

It's more likely that she was his cousin, the daughter of one of Seti's siblings.

She is called "the throne princess," so likely Nerfertiri is the daughter of one of Set's favored concubines, if not his "royal wife." Bithihia is obviously Seti's sister.

R273, one thing if I may. There was a debate among the early Christian leaders about that very thing. First Judaism, then Christianity. Some leaders felt that you had to become a convert to Judaism before you could become a Christian. But the other argument was No, Jesus said "Go forth and teach all nations" so that meant ALL nations and a person didn't have to be a jew or convert to judaism first. I believe this was one of the issues taken up at the first ecumenical council at Nicea back in the 300s. Other issues that laid the foundation for Christian Doctrine were also discussed but it was finally established that you need not be a JEw first to become a Christian.

Yes Jesus was at Passover Seder on the Thursday before Easter according to Christian beliefs.

Well, I'll state it ever so plainly. The EASTER holiday is all about Jesus Christ, the foretold Messiah who died on the cross, was entombed, and then rose again ascending to the Father after three days. He, the temple, was rebuilt after three days. Again, Easter is all about the resurrection of Jesus and yet we now seem to have very, very little to commemorate this miracle via television on that day. I searched my television listings, and despite there having been numerous films and documentaries about the life and ministry of Jesus, the only thing pertaining to him was playing on TCM. Yet, we have the Moses saga playing every single year like Old Faithful year after year after year. Like Dwight Eubanks said on RHOA "Who's the fashion designer having a fashion show without any fashions?" I'm wondering why we're observing Easter without Jesus. That is all.

[quote]As a Christian, I believe that the Church fathers erred when they decided to adopt an independent calculation of Easter, it would be most appropriate that it should always coincide exactly with Passover.

I believe Orthodox Easter, which is this coming Sunday this year, always takes place AFTER Passover, so it fits in better with the Passover/seder story.

R283 That doesn't fit either, the seder takes place on the first night of Passover, so that should also be the night that Christians celebrate what we now call Maundy Thursday. However, if they want to keep the Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, Easter Sunday arrangement, it should just be that it starts the first Thursday after the start of Passover.

There are tons of programs all over cable tv showing a million accounts of what might have happened in those days.

I saw a new series of shows yesterday where they literally gave voice to all the protagonists in the story. They showed Mary’s point of view, Judas’, Peter, Mary Magdalene as well. I didn’t see them all but I hadn’t seen this series at all before.

The Passion Of The Christ was on tv as well. You didn’t look hard enough, R282.

The Pope’s masses were also shown on that Christian channel.

I watch the movie every year, my reasons are not biblical. Sometimes they are trivial. I reminded myself once again all the men had dark brown or burgundy nipples. Was that coincidental? Did they cast the movie with dark male nipples in mind? Was it a result of makeup or oils? Nightly orgies where the men pinched and twisted each other's areolas until they bruised? Of course I have no problem with dark male nipples. I just can't masturbate during Easter weekend, so I obsess.

Of course yesterday, one of my friends told me some of the epic biblical films have men dressed in loincloths which are too small to cover all of their pubic hair. Why didn't I know this? Which ones is he talking about?

Anyone want some chocolate?

r286--The Voice of Reason in the Wilderness

I wouldn't mind seeing some biblical pubic hair. Which movies?

The burning bush!