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Cultural Shifts In Your Lifetime

Name some. How surprised by them were you? How fast did they take?

For me use of the internet was mind-boggling until around 2013 when my partner bought me a phone. I find they make much more sense then a big desktop aka a huge chunk of metal.

by Anonymousreply 478May 22, 2019 10:56 AM

Cars. I went to grade school on a fucking horse!

by Anonymousreply 1April 4, 2019 9:58 PM

Smart phones/mobile devices and all that means.

It happened really quick. Maybe, 10 years to completely transform the world.

by Anonymousreply 2April 4, 2019 9:59 PM

I'm sure others will cover the obvious ones (rise of alt right, iPhone addiction etc) but one that I see every day that is not as "in your face" is the rise of the giant, oversized cars. I live in Manhattan and even here in the city, everyone drives a massive, hulking car.

by Anonymousreply 3April 4, 2019 10:00 PM

Airplane deregulation. It used to cost triple the price to fly across the country. And it was fancier for everybody.

by Anonymousreply 4April 4, 2019 10:01 PM

Gay marriage.

by Anonymousreply 5April 4, 2019 10:01 PM

LOL @ R3 nonchalantly tossing in the alt-right bullshit. Give me a break.

by Anonymousreply 6April 4, 2019 10:02 PM

R3 Yes, SUVs are in the rise. Surprising since people aren't having kids.

by Anonymousreply 7April 4, 2019 10:02 PM

The smokeless society. It took forever. Maybe 25 or 35 years. You could smoke on planes! On Zeppelins, though not too successfully.

by Anonymousreply 8April 4, 2019 10:03 PM

Gross food everywhere that makes people sick

by Anonymousreply 9April 4, 2019 10:03 PM

The SUV thing is a result of gas prices. When gas was higher, cars were smaller. Gas has to rise to $6 or $8 to equal where it was years ago.

by Anonymousreply 10April 4, 2019 10:04 PM

No more clunkers on the road. Used to be lots of cars that had obviously survived a wreck, or with peeling paint, or just plain really old. I even couldn't find them in the backroads of Tennessee a few years ago, no jalopies.

by Anonymousreply 11April 4, 2019 10:05 PM

The alt-left, calling everyone else Republicans. So not true.

by Anonymousreply 12April 4, 2019 10:05 PM

The EU! Does that effect anybody in the US? That’s 25 years in the making, at least, as of today.

by Anonymousreply 13April 4, 2019 10:06 PM

R11, remember “cash for clunkers”? Obama tried to get you to buy a new car. Could that have had an effect? Or was that so long ago, that we’d have new clunkers by now?

by Anonymousreply 14April 4, 2019 10:08 PM

In 1999, when I was a freshman in college, my roommate kept mentioning to me about “this thing on my computer that you can download any song”. I specifically remember at the time thinking that didn’t make any sense. It wasn’t coming from a CD, so where was it coming from? The term “downloading a song” didn’t compute with me. So one day he mentions it again and I say “show me this thing you’re talking about”. Lo and behold, enter Napster. I remember him showing me how to use it and he says “ok name ANY song”, so I jokingly said “Wannabe by the Spice Girls”. And there it was in less than 10 seconds. An mp3 file of Wannabe by the Spice Girls on my desktop. Suddenly it made sense. I think I sat there for two weeks straight thinking of every song I’ve ever heard in my life downloading anything and everything. So now 20 years later I can say with all honesty that the first song I ever downloaded from the internet was Wannabe by the Spice Girls. Girl power!

by Anonymousreply 15April 4, 2019 10:11 PM

[quote] So now 20 years later I can say with all honesty that the first song I ever downloaded from the internet was Wannabe by the Spice Girls.

You think someone would pretend that this was the first song they did anything with?

by Anonymousreply 16April 4, 2019 10:12 PM

The decline of print media. I used to work for a publishing company that at its peak put out seven magazines and had a book division. Now it's down to just two magazines, and the campus was sold to a university—the magazines are still there, but they now rent just part of one floor, and the remaining space is occupied by the university's health sciences department.

by Anonymousreply 17April 4, 2019 10:12 PM

R15. To this day, I owe my song library to napster. About 5,000 songs of every genre and time period. I loved that shit. And lime wire too

by Anonymousreply 18April 4, 2019 10:12 PM

When I was a kid everyone was into having a good time. Now everyone is a bitch!

by Anonymousreply 19April 4, 2019 10:13 PM

The decline of big, over the top dance places. I am 40 years old so I guess I should climb into my grave here on DL. But I never thought that gay bars/discos would stop being about the music.

by Anonymousreply 20April 4, 2019 10:14 PM

Texting!

My first job in NYC out of college was working for a “mobile website” company. Basically building apps way before apps existed the way we know them now. The company was ahead of its time. This was in 2004 or so right before smartphones. I remember my boss pushing us all to use text messaging instead of calls when it came to clients, because as he put it, “text messaging is going to change the mobile industry”. And I can remember thinking how tedious that was. After all, who on earth would possibly want to type to talk to someone when you could just call them. Boy was he stupid, or so I thought...

by Anonymousreply 21April 4, 2019 10:18 PM

AIDS and the galvanizing effect it had on gay men - and lesbians.

Rapid mainstream acceptance of homosexuality as normal.

Current gender mania, which I don’t see a predictable end point for.

by Anonymousreply 22April 4, 2019 10:18 PM

The death of the WWII generation. You know the old geezer in [italic] “Tomorrow Belongs to Me?” [/italic] that’s where we are today. A bunch of fascists running government with no appreciation for history, with a tiny number of old geezers who have seen this before, who nobody is listening to, because they “still use checks”, or whatever.

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by Anonymousreply 23April 4, 2019 10:19 PM

[quote]No more clunkers on the road. Used to be lots of cars that had obviously survived a wreck, or with peeling paint, or just plain really old. I even couldn't find them in the backroads of Tennessee a few years ago, no jalopies.

Ironically, another shift is that cars are now expected to drive well more than 100,000 miles. Not that long ago, it seemed like such an accomplishment when your odometer flipped over.

by Anonymousreply 24April 4, 2019 10:19 PM

I think smartphones were a bigger cultural shift than the internet itself. Personally, my life would be severely inconvenienced without a smartphone. And my professional life would be largely impossible now, because I travel for work.

by Anonymousreply 25April 4, 2019 10:21 PM

The sexual revolution brought on by the access to birth control and generally changing social morés. All you have to do is watch TV shows and movies from the '50s and '60s to see how much things have changed. Not to mention the fact that using so-called "bad language" is much more prevalent nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 26April 4, 2019 10:25 PM

The shift from Warhol's "in the future, everyone will be famous for 15 minutes" to everyone will be famous for decades for vacuous bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 27April 4, 2019 10:25 PM

How is the adoption of new technology a "cultural shift."

The biggest shift is what I would loosely categorize as the loss of shame for one's actions. People are no longer ashamed or fear family or social censure for any of their actions - much of which they should be.

by Anonymousreply 28April 4, 2019 10:25 PM

The merger of every company into mega-companies. In my city:

Hospitals there are just two or three networks for the 20 hospitals

Department Stores Mays seems to own all of them

Media - the Gov allows media to own print and broadcast in the same market

Car dealers - one guy owns a dozen dealerships

Etc.

Liz Warren is right. Break them all up.

by Anonymousreply 29April 4, 2019 10:28 PM

Pretty much everything that flowed from the internet. Unlimited and more or less free access to music and porn. The concurrent decline of the music and publishing industries. Streaming. Widescreen HD TVs. Wikipedia and Google for instant knowledge about everything. Etc etc. Our brains have probably been completely rewired at this point.

The absurdly overpriced racket that higher education has become.

Oh yeah, and whatever socio-cultural calamity allowed Donald Trump to become president. Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 30April 4, 2019 10:28 PM

Definitely the internet and smart phones. The rudeness of social media spreading to real life. People constantly looking at phones. People with wildly varying concepts of reality because of the internet, more than before.

Globalism - what it means economically, socially, for nations and communities

Gay rights - people starting to be out, to marriage, to....attack on gay rights via T. Who would have dreamed of "transkids". Same for women's rights taking off in the 70s , weakened in the 80s and 90s and incredible attacks and silencing via T.

These are all absolutely stunning.

Plus the lack of hope about environmental issues. Lots of awareness, no serious answers. Politicians ignoring it.

And the grossness of mass media and mass culture. And how "academia" has dumbed down, also fascinated by grossness and stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 31April 4, 2019 10:30 PM

Gentrification of certain cities. Brooklyn, Times Sq., Boston, San Francisco, there must be others. Places you’d have locked your doors when driving through in the 1970s. This took 25 years.

by Anonymousreply 32April 4, 2019 10:33 PM

Camera phones and the normalization of privacy invasion. Many people think its normal and acceptable to film strangers without their permission.

by Anonymousreply 33April 4, 2019 10:35 PM

^ good one r32. Hells Kitchen. Would you have ever thought??

by Anonymousreply 34April 4, 2019 10:35 PM

I just read this on Twitter:

"I think the ability of pretty much anyone to self-define as ‘queer’ and get the opportunity thereby to silence actual LGB people is one of the more irksome features of current identity politics."

That is a cultural shift.

by Anonymousreply 35April 4, 2019 10:40 PM

I think there is more isolation, too. Due to the internet, widening economic inequality, alienation and conflict with others, and giving up.

by Anonymousreply 36April 4, 2019 10:41 PM

The demands from college students that campus administrators monitor and involve themselves in students intimate encounters. 30 years ago students would have laughed at the idea of needing a sexual hall monitor for young adults. On that note, the extreme infantilization of young people when it comes to sex.

by Anonymousreply 37April 4, 2019 10:42 PM

Everything R31 said.

by Anonymousreply 38April 4, 2019 10:45 PM

Cities like NY and SF becoming unaffordable for most of the population. For generations, people who were on the outskirts of society could move to those cities and live decent, nice lives. Not anymore. It's all about money now.

by Anonymousreply 39April 4, 2019 10:47 PM

R33 I remember the first time I was filmed without my permission. It was in 2002. I flipped the bird to the guy. Now it's just completely normal. It also used to be that there was some respect towards people trying to take a (group) picture. Now I just walk right in front of the lens and don't give a shit.

Because now everyone is more rude, including myself.

by Anonymousreply 40April 4, 2019 10:47 PM

The stigmatization of smokers and everyone's blind acceptance toward it.

by Anonymousreply 41April 4, 2019 10:48 PM

Definitely, as has already been mentioned, the rise of SM. It's fucking everywhere. It still blows my mind how often people use/run to twitter, instagram, snapchat, Facebook etc all the damn time. I just never got into any of that stuff, so to see how ubiquitous it is now is still a bit shocking for me.

by Anonymousreply 42April 4, 2019 10:49 PM

The rise in popularity of double anal.

by Anonymousreply 43April 4, 2019 10:51 PM

The idea that bragging is acceptable. I also grew up being taught that a loving family, friends, and community, however you define all that, is worth more than all the money in the world. I still believe that.

Everything that Trump does is appalling. Many of us here know that, but a lot of the people around us do not.

by Anonymousreply 44April 4, 2019 10:51 PM

The Kardashians becoming so famous (and wealthy) for doing absolutely nothing. Not sure even Warhol would have predicted the total dominance of "reality" culture.

by Anonymousreply 45April 4, 2019 10:52 PM

Warhol was nothing to me and my generation. A fossil.

by Anonymousreply 46April 4, 2019 10:53 PM

The lack of shame about cheating/lying. The complacency of others in the face of it.

I remember laughing at the notion of coffeehouses and bottled water.

I wholeheartedly agree with r23 (and Yale professor Timothy Snyder). I think this cultural shift is barely noticed right now but will have enormous consequences in the future.

by Anonymousreply 47April 4, 2019 10:54 PM

So many people don't know how to cook. I don't mean cooking seven-course meals, I mean putting together a protein, a starch and a couple of vegetables together to form a meal from scratch. I know people who live off sandwiches, frozen meals and take-out.

by Anonymousreply 48April 4, 2019 10:56 PM

Here’s one relevant to Biden’s problem of the week. I was raised to believe that “I am not responsible for how you feel”. Pelosi just said this week, something like “it’s not what you said, it’s how it’s received.” I hope that’s a losing position, because it’s stupid. No one can be safe interacting in public, when any attention whore can just claim to be offended by that person. If someone behaves normally, and inoffensively, and someone else is offended, that’s their problem. This “I’m offended culture” is not good for either party, or for bystanders.

by Anonymousreply 49April 4, 2019 11:00 PM

Men looking like thugs, women looking like complete whores everywhere you go.

by Anonymousreply 50April 4, 2019 11:00 PM

Tweens looking like complete whores. WTF?

by Anonymousreply 51April 4, 2019 11:01 PM

Tying into R23 and R47: the idea that unabashed asshole behavior is worthy of respect.

by Anonymousreply 52April 4, 2019 11:03 PM

A Black man became President.

A Black Lesbian became Mayor of Chicago.

In 2020, the President may be a Black man, or woman, or Gay man, or who knows!

Meanwhile, I have a passport from the 1950s for my father and his wife, like she’s a piece of luggage or something. I think it assumes that she won’t travel without him - and she probably didn’t!

by Anonymousreply 53April 4, 2019 11:05 PM

R49 So you were raised to not take responsibility for your actions and to basically be a sociopath? That's the losing position, I hope.

by Anonymousreply 54April 4, 2019 11:05 PM

[quote]Men looking like thugs, women looking like complete whores everywhere you go.

Yes, Men looking like thugs, women looking like complete whores everywhere you go. And hijabs everywhere, too.

RIP cheerful, dressy, attractive fashion and style.

by Anonymousreply 55April 4, 2019 11:07 PM

The decline of televisions. No one buys them anymore.

by Anonymousreply 56April 4, 2019 11:09 PM

[quote]And hijabs everywhere, too.

FF. Muriel needs to have you banned.

by Anonymousreply 57April 4, 2019 11:09 PM

The growing acceptance of casual wear for work, for church, for concerts, etc. I've seen guys wearing a t-shirt and jeans to the symphony, and wearing sweatpants and a sweatshirt for a transcontinental flight.

by Anonymousreply 58April 4, 2019 11:09 PM

R96 most live inside a Dixie cup.

by Anonymousreply 59April 4, 2019 11:11 PM

I never thought I would see both marijuana and gay marriage become legal during my lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 60April 4, 2019 11:11 PM

Everyone is eating all the fucking time. Even when it looks like coffee, if it's full of milk and froth and sweet, it's fucking caloric. Eating and drinking and picking up something to eat on the way to anything and eating in the car is so fucking new. Yeah, popcorn at the movies, which wasn't my thing but fuck if I can't expect sushi behind me in the theater at this point. Consuming all the time.

by Anonymousreply 61April 4, 2019 11:14 PM

R3- In 1975 American Cars were HUGE OVERSIZE GAS GUZZLERS. They don't make cars like that anymore-230 inches long with a 7.5 litre V-8 engine.

by Anonymousreply 62April 4, 2019 11:15 PM

R58-Americans started dressing like slobs in the early 1970's. There is a film on youtube of an amusement park in New Jersey in 1932 and all of the men are wearing suits and ties.

by Anonymousreply 63April 4, 2019 11:17 PM

R1 Well I rode a dinosaur, so there!

by Anonymousreply 64April 4, 2019 11:18 PM

Shaved pubic hair and the ubiquity of tattoos. Forty years ago if you shaved your pubic hair they would send you to a mental institution.

by Anonymousreply 65April 4, 2019 11:19 PM

In my beloved mother's day, a proper lady never left the house without hat, gloves, and correct hair and make-up. (It also helped if she had a fitting male escort.)

Young women today comport themselves like the most brazen of dockside strumpets, swanning around half-naked and smoking and cursing openly on the streets. Where are their parents?

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by Anonymousreply 66April 4, 2019 11:19 PM

The sad thing is that r66 isn't being satirical.

by Anonymousreply 67April 4, 2019 11:21 PM

The movement in education from a top down power structure with high standards to a bottom up power structure with no standards. The teacher is now responsible for pleasing the student, the students parents and the administration. There is no expectation for the student to actually please anybody but themselves.

by Anonymousreply 68April 4, 2019 11:23 PM

[quote] R54: [R49] So you were raised to not take responsibility for your actions and to basically be a sociopath? That's the losing position, I hope

I’m responsible for my actions. I’m not responsible for how you feel, R54. Your histrionics are YOUR responsibility!

by Anonymousreply 69April 4, 2019 11:28 PM

[quote]wearing sweatpants and a sweatshirt for a transcontinental flight.

I can't think of anything I'd rather dress comfortably for than a transcontinental flight.

by Anonymousreply 70April 4, 2019 11:29 PM

My Mom, born about 1920, saw a hair commercial once and remarked, “In my day, if your hair was like that, you wouldn’t leave the house”. She rarely made social commentary.

by Anonymousreply 71April 4, 2019 11:30 PM

Back in the 70s there was a cartoon in The New Yorker that summed up our future and the expectations of a rapidly changing society. A man was standing in front of a fairly new appliance called the microwave oven. The caption: "Cook, dammit!"

by Anonymousreply 72April 4, 2019 11:31 PM

People wearing athletic clothing in public. I grew up in a fairly conservative (but liberal) home in Boston, where we thought it was inappropriate to even wear shorts if you weren't at the beach. I still dress fairly conservatively -- chinos and oxfords, almost every day of the year -- and don't like seeing people wearing yoga pants or sweatpants or athleisure wear if they aren't at a gym, or heading to one. I think it's in bad taste.

by Anonymousreply 73April 4, 2019 11:31 PM

FF R57 - you should be banned for being unable to have a conversation or let someone have an observation. It is a major cultural shift.

by Anonymousreply 74April 4, 2019 11:32 PM

Completely agree with people dressing like slobs all the time. It makes cities and anywhere where there are groups of people so depressing.

by Anonymousreply 75April 4, 2019 11:33 PM

Everything in the stores made in China.

The death of Main Street and local shops, then malls, then big box stores, the growth of Walmart, then the death of malls and the death of beloved department stores, and the death of basic department stores . Amazon and online shopping as the main shopping. Lots of dollar stores, too.

by Anonymousreply 76April 4, 2019 11:37 PM

Home computers. When I was a kid we didn’t even have tv’s or radios.

by Anonymousreply 77April 4, 2019 11:38 PM

R77 it's time to die

by Anonymousreply 78April 4, 2019 11:39 PM

Going to a video to rent pornographic videos.

by Anonymousreply 79April 4, 2019 11:40 PM

I cannot for one moment even think about being upset about what other people are wearing. As long as they don't smell, who gives a shit? There are so many actual problems in the world, other people's clothing is maybe 9,736th on the list.

by Anonymousreply 80April 4, 2019 11:40 PM

Most people who come here are majorly fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 81April 4, 2019 11:41 PM

Blowjobs between straights is normal. Back in the day the biggest slut sucked cock.

by Anonymousreply 82April 4, 2019 11:42 PM

I'm going back a little bit...

Air conditioning popped up in my neighborhood in the mid-60s. It still took my parents two more years to decide we needed one. We also drove to a family Florida vacations in a Corvair, two parents, two grandparents and us two kids. And the Corvair did not have air conditioning. Neither did the motel we stayed at, Clearwater Beach in mid-summer. Still , it was Florida!

We had a black and white TV. We went to my grandparents house to watch "The Wizard of Oz" in color. It was a big annual televised event. I watch Perry Mason and 77 Sunset Strip on MeTV. I'm acclimated, it doesn't bother me the shows are in black and white.

Playgirl Magazine in the early 70s. Pictures of naked men! Full-frontal! and actors, too! Scandalous, but considered "hip" among younger people.

by Anonymousreply 83April 4, 2019 11:43 PM

Wow R77 how old are you that you didn't even have radio in the house when you were a child? They were common in the 1920's!

by Anonymousreply 84April 4, 2019 11:43 PM

Agree with r76

by Anonymousreply 85April 4, 2019 11:45 PM

When I was a kid in the 1970's and 1980's NO ONE SAID-My Mom, my Dad. It was-My mother, my father-At least in the northeast.

by Anonymousreply 86April 4, 2019 11:49 PM

[quote] I just read this on Twitter:

[quote] "I think the ability of pretty much anyone to self-define as ‘queer’ and get the opportunity thereby to silence actual LGB people is one of the more irksome features of current identity politics."

[quote] That is a cultural shift.

Not really. Stupid, right wing or Christian traditional values assholes flaunting their stupidity have always existed. Remember "God created Adam & Eve and not Adam & Steve?". Same bigot rhetoric where one group supposedly is about to snatch the superior status title away from another group.

by Anonymousreply 87April 4, 2019 11:49 PM

The internet was in full swing before 2013.

by Anonymousreply 88April 4, 2019 11:54 PM

The Fall of the Christian Church. From untouchable institution of moral authority and integrity to Pedo Central.

by Anonymousreply 89April 4, 2019 11:56 PM

The Pedo stuff was associated with the Catholic church NOT the Protestant churches.

by Anonymousreply 90April 4, 2019 11:57 PM

Yeah - it's amazing how infrequently cars break down now. That used to happen ALL THE TIME in the 70's and 80's. You very rarely see someone on the side of the road with their hood up anymore. And no, it's not all due to cell phones.

We really did have shitty cars. Also 'streetlife' has gone completely underground. Hookers, drug dealers, etc. were a rather normal sight in many cities. Now they are an oddity.

Both are big improvements. Also, there seems to be less garbage and graffiti.

by Anonymousreply 91April 4, 2019 11:57 PM

[quote] The Pedo stuff was associated with the Catholic church NOT the Protestant churches.

And? Christianity, in general, lost its grip over the masses.

by Anonymousreply 92April 5, 2019 12:02 AM

R91 in many areas the hookers and dealers have gone, but the homeless have arrived. Trash, shit, and piss everywhere. Gaslamp district / downtown area San Diego is a prime example. Or SF.

by Anonymousreply 93April 5, 2019 12:02 AM

Favoring cheap knock offs over quality products that last longer. The "out with the old, in with the new!" consumerism culture.

by Anonymousreply 94April 5, 2019 12:10 AM

R17 Bham? Me too.

by Anonymousreply 95April 5, 2019 12:12 AM

It is genuinely cheaper (and far easier) to purchase, say, new appliances, shoes, clothing, and furniture than to repair/restore older versions of the same.

That's a huge paradigm shift in America.

by Anonymousreply 96April 5, 2019 12:15 AM

The overwhelming flow of information and communication that has allowed people from marginalized groups to find one another socially and politically.

The resulting fragmentation of society.

by Anonymousreply 97April 5, 2019 12:15 AM

The rise of the anti-intellectual movement where everyone acting smarter than a Kardashian is just a fake, attention whoring poser.

by Anonymousreply 98April 5, 2019 12:16 AM

Never being totally off work. You used to leave the job at 5 or 5:30 and not think about it until the next day.

Now with the internet, email, Slack and working remotely, the job sticks to you after hours.

by Anonymousreply 99April 5, 2019 12:17 AM

The number of autistic kids. Seems like there’s one in every family.

by Anonymousreply 100April 5, 2019 12:21 AM

The entire 60s. Youngest president, said president assassinated, The Beatles came to America, Civil Rights Movement, Vietnam War, hippies, RFK and MLK assassinated. It was a trip.

by Anonymousreply 101April 5, 2019 12:22 AM

Beltless sanitary napkins!

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by Anonymousreply 102April 5, 2019 12:42 AM

In the United States, the growing sense that everything is politicized, even scientific facts.

by Anonymousreply 103April 5, 2019 12:58 AM

My mother had a belt which clipped to the pad and held it in place, r102. She kept it on the cupboard shelve right above the towels.

by Anonymousreply 104April 5, 2019 1:19 AM

Ew David @r104

by Anonymousreply 105April 5, 2019 1:26 AM

Everyone used to hate nerds, now everyone tries to be one and were failing at it until their aspirations became automated for them.

by Anonymousreply 106April 5, 2019 1:30 AM

Pay phones to cell phones.

by Anonymousreply 107April 5, 2019 2:11 AM

The reduction of agricultural employees. It’s been happening for 100 years. Maybe 150 or 200 years.

by Anonymousreply 108April 5, 2019 3:11 AM

Manscaping. When and where did it start? In the 70s and I had so many friends in high school who had large, thick bushes. I saw them in the locker room. Then there was a plethora of the same in the showers in the college residence halls in the 80s. There was one big shower room on each floor at the time. No curtains. No one seemed to mind if their bush was bigger or smaller than yours, or what color it was. We let it all hang out and no one brought attention to it. (Of course, I kept track.) No one talked about bushes in sexual conversations.

So suddenly in the 90s you had to shave or at least trim. I picked up so many guys then who had shaved their bushes. It was a complete turn-off for me. Who started the complaining? How on earth did we have gone through so many generations of full bush and no one made an issue of it?

Thank God guys have started to let everything grow again. I've heard MRSA is spreading among people who have opened up tiny cuts in their groins by shaving, then it spreads to other peoples' tiny cuts through sexual activity. Is this a reason?

I'm just getting old and bitchy. Bring back the early Playgirl models. I watch the old shows from the 60s on MeTV, knowing all those gorgeous actors didn't give a thought to grooming down there. (I can't keep track, but I have a vivid imagination.)

by Anonymousreply 109April 5, 2019 3:40 AM

Every time we think R109 is the shallowest gal we know, she manages to drain a little more out of the pool...

by Anonymousreply 110April 5, 2019 3:44 AM

Natural bushes are gross and smelly. A trimmed bush looks neat and clean.

by Anonymousreply 111April 5, 2019 3:50 AM

The war on the middle class and poor. CEO salaries have skyrocketed through the roof and no one cares. Yet wages have been stagnant for two decades for everyone else and no one cares. People who make their money on investments pay 15% tax rate, the rest of us pay much more. No one cares.

Companies do all they can to limit wages and provide the worst health care (or no health care insurance at all). No one cares. Colleges (even state schools) have raised the prices beyond the reach of middle class families, forcing people to be in debt for most of their adult lives. No one cares.

We spend trillions on wars that get us nowhere and destroy our name and create enemies. No one cares and we're taught to defend all military actions less we be called unpatriotic and a communist.

by Anonymousreply 112April 5, 2019 4:14 AM

Women drinking beer out of cans. In public.

And portraits of one's asshole.

by Anonymousreply 113April 5, 2019 4:19 AM

Three channels in my childhood. If you wanted news, you had to sit down every night and pick which of the three trusted news guys you anted to watch.

Getting off the school bus in 4th grade, letting myself in the house, being on my own for two hours before someone got home from work. During that time, I'd make myself a snack in the oven, drink soda, do whatever. And nobody ever called child services.

by Anonymousreply 114April 5, 2019 4:25 AM

1/2 a WW for r113.

by Anonymousreply 115April 5, 2019 4:27 AM

r49 -- I was listening to one of those evangelical Christian ministers on TV, and she said that widespread taking of offense is a sign of the endtimes.

by Anonymousreply 116April 5, 2019 4:38 AM

Lack of new, creative ideas. Outside of technology, there doesn't seem to be any new fashion, hair or music from the past 20 years.

Have we reached the limits of our creativity? I know in a post-modern world, most things have been done - and that was said decades ago. But now, I really feel like we're on pause.

by Anonymousreply 117April 5, 2019 4:39 AM

Definitely what r47 wrote. That DJT is practically getting away with his incessant lying and cheating is mind boggling. Clothes to a lesser extend because it's fashion after all.

by Anonymousreply 118April 5, 2019 4:41 AM

[quote]I remember laughing at the notion of coffeehouses and bottled water.

Why coffee houses?

by Anonymousreply 119April 5, 2019 4:42 AM

I wonder what Frank would think of Ronan being a big ol' maricon.

by Anonymousreply 120April 5, 2019 4:43 AM

You mean big ol' finocch', r120?

by Anonymousreply 121April 5, 2019 4:46 AM

R117 Bjork exists

by Anonymousreply 122April 5, 2019 4:48 AM

People wearing jeans (as my late Mum said, dressed like schloks) in downtown San Francisco.

Internet, email, smartphones.

Flying non-stop distances that used to involve 2 or 3 stops.

Electronic passports and entry/exit visas.

News media dispensing indoctrination and entertainment instead of information.

The death of reasoned debate and discussion.

Magical thinking replacing reality.

by Anonymousreply 123April 5, 2019 5:00 AM

cheap long distance - You have no idea how far ordinary people would go to avoid long distance charges.

by Anonymousreply 124April 5, 2019 5:03 AM

[quote]The death of reasoned debate and discussion.

Now it's talking heads with an agenda.

by Anonymousreply 125April 5, 2019 5:09 AM

A time when people respected one another

by Anonymousreply 126April 5, 2019 5:20 AM

For those of us who would like the full story, read Charles Murray's Coming Apart . It not a brrezy,casual book, but it clearly idenditifes the months where the have and have nots continue to differ. He traces part of the elite class' assessnion by referencing 20 smoothing, the tv show. In it, their lifestyle and product choices were of then rarified variety that the general middle class could not afford. The book is well worth reading.

by Anonymousreply 127April 5, 2019 5:27 AM

[quote]20 smoothing, the tv show

thirtysomething?

by Anonymousreply 128April 5, 2019 5:28 AM

Typing idiocies, then blaming it on Damned Autocorrect.

by Anonymousreply 129April 5, 2019 5:29 AM

Collect calls. We used to use the pay phone at the mall and instead of our name we’d say “mom, pick us up at the food court” as fast as we could.

by Anonymousreply 130April 5, 2019 5:38 AM

You sound cheap, R130.

by Anonymousreply 131April 5, 2019 5:42 AM

For Angelenos: From navigating unknown roads with the Thomas Guide to a cellphone mounted on the dashboard, giving Google Maps directions.

by Anonymousreply 132April 5, 2019 5:43 AM

R130, I used to do the same thing, lol.

by Anonymousreply 133April 5, 2019 5:44 AM

Actually, r131, it sounds as if his mother was cheap.

by Anonymousreply 134April 5, 2019 5:51 AM

Adoption, I was born in the 60's and every class had kids who were adopted, it was just normal and accepted. Last year there were 330 finalised adoptions in all of Australia and most of those were by the children's foster parents.

by Anonymousreply 135April 5, 2019 5:51 AM

Who could have imagined sitting in front of a device that looks something like a television, only you can talk to individuals, discussing such essential topics as lentil farts and clingy cats. And look at pics of gorgeous gay guys. That part alone...

by Anonymousreply 136April 5, 2019 5:55 AM

In college, I knew a girl from El Salvador. When she arrived in her dorm, she'd place a collect call home, which her family would refuse. That was their signal that she had arrived safely. [italic]Everyone[/italic] had some scheme to cut long-distance bills.

by Anonymousreply 137April 5, 2019 5:56 AM

The rise of trans-national crime and the inability of states to control it.

The almost permanent refugee/immigration crises as people leave failed states in the developing world.

Hyperreality

[quote][The power of elites] to create a new social reality, which Jacques Baudrillard terms hyperreality. [bold]Hyperreality is a special kind of social reality in which a reality is created or simulated from models, or defined by reference to models – a reality generated from ideas. The term has implications of ‘too much reality’ – everything being on the surface, without mystery; ‘more real than reality’ – too perfect and schematic to be true, like special effects; and ‘para-reality’, an extra layer laid over, or instead of, reality. It is experienced as more real than the real, because of its effect of breaking down the boundary between real and imaginary. It is a ‘real’ without ‘origin or reality’, a reality to which we cannot connect.[/bold]

[quote]In hyperreality, simulators seek to make all of reality coincide with their models of simulation. The result is that ‘the real is no longer real’. For instance, production is now primarily virtual – the unreal circulation of values. Cinema is getting closer to an absolute reality in all its naked obviousness. Functional arrangements seek to create the greatest correspondence possible between the object and its function. Baudrillard terms such changes as expressions of an attitude to signs which is naïve and paranoid, puritan and terrorist. Its destruction of the gap between signs and their referents creates immense social effects. [bold]For instance, one’s experience of time collapses without accumulation and a referent. Time is increasingly experienced as an eternal present without end, rather than as a linear sequence.[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 138April 5, 2019 6:13 AM

R132 I loved the Thomas Guide. My father and I would bond over navigating the map and debating which streets to take.

by Anonymousreply 139April 5, 2019 6:30 AM

bump

by Anonymousreply 140April 5, 2019 6:57 AM

R139, the Thomas Guide is still handy to have in your car if your phone dies or you find yourself somewhere with bad reception. My dad still uses it and he's never gotten lost anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 141April 5, 2019 7:02 AM

All the big ones have already been mentioned but the linguistic shifts have been huge.

Entire new dialects have emerged here in the London/SE region. Also RP is on the way out with even royalty being heard to use Estuary English glottal stops and the new generation of newsreaders/television presenters all use their regional accents. This would have been unheard of only a few years ago.

Some Americanisms that I can remember people would laugh if they heard a Brit saying them ('Guys' is one that sticks out) have become commonplace in the last few years. When I was at school in the 80s you'd have had the piss ripped out of you if you said 'guys' instead of 'lads' or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 142April 5, 2019 7:11 AM

Hear, hear R112

by Anonymousreply 143April 5, 2019 9:50 AM

The demise of radio play of Pop music and rise of Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, et al has been shocking. Stations I listened to for the Beatles (WABC/Cousin Brucie; WAEB) are now 100 % Right-Wing talk radio.

For that matter, the continued dominance of Rap/Urban Black "music" still, after decades, baffles me. Some "fad."

by Anonymousreply 144April 5, 2019 10:40 AM

[quote]That DJT is practically getting away with his incessant lying and cheating is mind boggling.

And to think that JFK almost didn’t get elected because he was *gasp* Catholic! Another serial cheater, but back then it wasn’t talked about.

by Anonymousreply 145April 5, 2019 11:45 AM

For me two big ones:

Today’s victim culture. No one does anything wrong today. It’s always someone else’s fault and/or they’re victims of their upbringing, discrimination, etc. Nobody takes responsibility for their own actions today.

That and the loss of pensions. When I was a kid, your father would work 30 years for one company, get a gold watch and a pension and that was that. Nowadays people don’t, and indeed don’t even intend to, spend their whole careers with one employer. In my day, numerous different employers on your résumé would indicate instability and an inability to hold a job. Today’s it’s the norm.

by Anonymousreply 146April 5, 2019 12:16 PM

The death of rocks stars. I’m old enough to recall when white drugged out rock stars were news worthy. Like cover of Time newsworthy. I miss their tales of debauchery.

by Anonymousreply 147April 5, 2019 12:35 PM

The absence of the public/private divide.

In the form of oversharing to treating public spaces (like public transport) as an extension of your home (talking loudly on the phone, and usually oversharing).

by Anonymousreply 148April 5, 2019 12:46 PM

Cocooning - people blocking out others when they are in public (by staring into their phones and or listening to whatever is on their headphones at the expense of engaging with others in public).

by Anonymousreply 149April 5, 2019 12:49 PM

r149 = NOT Faith Popcorn.

by Anonymousreply 150April 5, 2019 1:01 PM

Oh my god, R49. Drop dead already.

The greatest cultural shift of all will be when the last of the sociopathic boomer generation finally keels over.

by Anonymousreply 151April 5, 2019 1:02 PM

A growing sense that our best days as a society are behind us.

by Anonymousreply 152April 5, 2019 1:02 PM

R151 I'm all for change but if you think you and your generation are a good replacement to Boomers, you're deluded. Many of you are dumb dumb dumb -- and the problem with dumb is, you don't don't know how stupid you really are. Shallow, devoid of humor, no knowledge of history, very little intellectual curiosity, incapable of sustained academic rigor or challenge, and concerned only with chasing pleasures. Hive Mind. I could go on. Yeah Boomers suck on many levels, but your lot are much, much inferior as best I can tell. So you see, though I am not a Boomer, you have poor reasoning AND poor logic and only reinforce my concerns.

by Anonymousreply 153April 5, 2019 1:17 PM

Generations don't matter as much as socioeconomic class, really.

by Anonymousreply 154April 5, 2019 1:21 PM

For some reason, I can hear my grandparents saying the same thing to my parents. And every generation before it. And the millennials will be spouting the same thing in 15 years or so.

by Anonymousreply 155April 5, 2019 1:31 PM

NO! When you have a generation with no knowledge of history and not participating in the election of our politicians, compliant, then that is a real and material threat to civilization.

by Anonymousreply 156April 5, 2019 1:37 PM

I'm old enough to barely remember the segregated South.

I distinctly remember this small sign in the window of a jewelry store: "Maids in uniforms only." It was a forgone conclusion the store was for whites only.

And I remember water fountains being labeled colored and white. And colored waiting rooms at doctor's offices.

All this ended abruptly in the mid-'60s.

by Anonymousreply 157April 5, 2019 1:42 PM

R153: I'm 52, moron. What generation did you think I am? Despite what you believe, empathy is not a meme coined on Tumblr in 20014. It's a normal human emotion that somehow skipped an entire generation after WW2, and poisoned the rest of the population as they wrecked havoc on every era since then. Boomers are a narcissistic plague on humanity and history will not judge them kindly.

by Anonymousreply 158April 5, 2019 1:42 PM

The Internet used to be for nerds. That feels like a long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 159April 5, 2019 1:44 PM

[quote]I distinctly remember this small sign in the window of a jewelry store: "Maids in uniforms only."

I don’t get this. What is that sign supposed to mean?

by Anonymousreply 160April 5, 2019 1:45 PM

I remember 1999 when a number of coworkers had pagers. They'd receive a page, and then they'd run off to go looking for a phone to call the person who had paged them. I thought to myself, "they sure are dependent on those devices. It's probably just a fad, though."

by Anonymousreply 161April 5, 2019 1:46 PM

I agree with your last sentence, r158, and I'm 53, but I'm not convinced X-ers and - shudder - Millennials are going to be "better" generations for what's ahead of us.

by Anonymousreply 162April 5, 2019 1:47 PM

In 1992, it was just college students and staff on the Internet. Then, there was Compuserve and AOL. They charged hourly, and some people's bills amounted to hundreds of dollars a month because they were addicted to web chat rooms. Then came webTV, and it all went to hell.

by Anonymousreply 163April 5, 2019 1:49 PM

Say what you will, Boomers know how to get up and march and raise hell when it's needed.

by Anonymousreply 164April 5, 2019 1:49 PM

The Berlin Wall was knocked down, and then the USSR was disbanded shortly after.

by Anonymousreply 165April 5, 2019 1:50 PM

Here's one you probably didn't think about. I've been around long enough to see real estate run up in price, then collapse then run up and collapse. When you buy your home you have anywhere from 10 to 80 years that you simply occupy it. When you're dead and gone your relatives or friends are going to clean out your place, it'll be put up for sale and the proceeds settle your estate.

And we're on the cusp of another great die off - the Drumpf generation are going to start dropping like flies.

by Anonymousreply 166April 5, 2019 2:07 PM

Everyone has a problem with their gender nowadays. Nobody really thought about it before, but now they are all obsessed with erasing the concept of "man" and "woman" completely.

by Anonymousreply 167April 5, 2019 2:18 PM

R166, how is that a cultural shift? Real estate has been fluctuating since Ooongh sold his cave to Banga Bongo.

by Anonymousreply 168April 5, 2019 2:20 PM

R151/R158, your mind has gone too far up your ass. Really bad scene you got there. Your mind (a broken vacuum) trapped in your ass (a big sucking hole) which has caused a cultural shift that your poor cat has to fucking deal with now:

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by Anonymousreply 169April 5, 2019 2:32 PM

Blockchain. And, crypto.

Blockchain is going to be a household name. The transfer rate and cost is incomparable to current industry used.

And of course, it has made me a lot of money.....

by Anonymousreply 170April 5, 2019 2:43 PM

We are moving toward a cashless society. Some businesses don't even accept cash anymore; they only take debit and credit cards.

by Anonymousreply 171April 5, 2019 3:00 PM

Most have already been mentioned but the biggest ones to me are the rise of smartphones, the gutting of the middle class, the rise of religiosity in general, the inability of law enforcement to put the Nazi uprising down once and for all.

The death of music in general. I’m hoping the youths of today will write some decent music stemming from rage at their world being so fucked.

by Anonymousreply 172April 5, 2019 3:11 PM

[quote]the inability of law enforcement to put the Nazi uprising down once and for all.

Huh?

by Anonymousreply 173April 5, 2019 3:18 PM

Fascist forces, which are anti-democratic to the core, are using the rules of democracy against democracy itself. And mostt political groups are behaving like wusses and letting them get away with it (some of them because it is in their interest, others out of cowardice). Watch fascism destroy democracy from the inside.

by Anonymousreply 174April 5, 2019 3:22 PM

A Final Solution is needed, r172?

by Anonymousreply 175April 5, 2019 3:23 PM

I remember a very abrupt shift in Jan and Feb of 1980. Within the space of three weeks, Donald and Ivana divorced, Nelson Mandela was freed and Drexel Burnham Lambert (Michael Milkin's bank when he made $500 million his last year before going to prison) collapsed.

I remember thinking "wow, the 80s are over"

by Anonymousreply 176April 5, 2019 3:25 PM

^ Jan is Feb of 1990. Not 1980. Sorry

by Anonymousreply 177April 5, 2019 3:26 PM

R172 is a great example of confirmation bias. I assume you live in the south? Because everywhere else in America and in the modern world, securalism is the norm, and religion is on the decline.

by Anonymousreply 178April 5, 2019 3:26 PM

R174 Fascism is not on the rise. Trump will either run one term or be elected and again. The latter sucks but either way, it will end and afterward America will elect a moderate, on whatever side they choose.

Your talk is akin to that of the red scare.

by Anonymousreply 179April 5, 2019 3:29 PM

I don't live in the US, I live in western Europe. Fascism has been on the rise in all the Nordic countries, the Netherlands + Flemish-speaking Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Italy, France. Many analysts see Brexit as the consequence of such an effort. And I'm not even talking about Hungary and other eastern countries.

As for Drumpf, Britain has its own Drumpf - he's called Boris Johnson.

by Anonymousreply 180April 5, 2019 3:35 PM

Living in a country where the majority of the population are Atheist (or have no religion), it seemed to happen very quickly here in the UK.

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by Anonymousreply 181April 5, 2019 3:35 PM

When that poor British soldier was butchered in the streets by two Muslim Africans, I thought, that's it. The Brits will show us all how it's done. And they are with Brexit. Fuck multi-culturalism. It's becoming a disaster all over the world.

by Anonymousreply 182April 5, 2019 3:39 PM

[quote]Fascist forces, which are anti-democratic to the core, are using the rules of democracy against democracy itself.

Which "fascist forces" are those exactly? Media that no longer allow Reader comments? Elected representatives who embrace and defend bigots? Institutions that muzzle debate on certain issues? Defenders and supporters of hate-filled, authoritarian dogmas? And right here on DL, unashamed censorship on certain topics?

by Anonymousreply 183April 5, 2019 3:43 PM

R180 I assume you're talking about anti-immigration policy governments being elected in Europe? That being fascism is up for debate. I personally don't see that as fascism. Its effects may be harmful to some but we'll live.

by Anonymousreply 184April 5, 2019 3:43 PM

Hungary was slammed for closing its borders to Muslim migrants. "NO FUCKING WAY," they said. Their memories aren't so short, I guess. When they were accused of being fascist, they said, "Not yet, but since you ask . . . "

by Anonymousreply 185April 5, 2019 3:49 PM

Being obese or overweight becoming the de facto norm.

by Anonymousreply 186April 5, 2019 3:50 PM

Precisely what I was saying, fascism using the roles of democracy against democracy itself. "We are being censored!" is a prime example.

by Anonymousreply 187April 5, 2019 3:53 PM

Let's not derail this thread, it is a fine thread. Politics are merely a reaction to major cultural shifts - reaction and reactionary as some of those politics may be, just as the cultural shifts are immense and scary to many people.

by Anonymousreply 188April 5, 2019 3:55 PM

Our well-intending Democracy is being undermined all the time, by the NRA, the financial sector, corrupt politicians, peddlers of misinformation and sick porn, etc etc -- "protected" by various amendments and laws for which these gross distortions couldn't be anticipated.

by Anonymousreply 189April 5, 2019 3:58 PM

This thread.

by Anonymousreply 190April 5, 2019 3:59 PM

R187 Censorship is fascism, no matter who does it, a tool to control thought and perception. There is no difference between the Nazi censorship in the 1920s and 1930s and media censorship today due to political and social agenda.

by Anonymousreply 191April 5, 2019 4:00 PM

Who can be surprised if after years of Internet-lead fractiousness people long for unity, one way or another, by coercion or by force, and if of late that comes in the form of fascism? Cause and effect, etc. The Internet is multi-tentacled beast reaching into each and every home. And where are governments addressing the many, many dangers it serves up? Standing back and watching the likes of Bezos and Zuckerberg and handful of others run amok.

by Anonymousreply 192April 5, 2019 4:11 PM

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by Anonymousreply 193April 5, 2019 4:16 PM

I was born in 1970. For most of my life, in general, homosexuality was unacceptable. There were no out gays at my high school in suburban Long Island. There were maybe two out gays at my college. It was simply unacceptable in all parts of the mainstream.

I remember seeing Obama's inaugural address in 2008. I was stunned. Shocked. Thrilled to hear this-

"We, the people, declare today that the most evident of truths –- that all of us are created equal –- is the star that guides us still; just as it guided our forebears through Seneca Falls, and Selma, and Stonewall; just as it guided all those men and women, sung and unsung, who left footprints along this great Mall, to hear a preacher say that we cannot walk alone; to hear a King proclaim that our individual freedom... "

A United States President mentioned Stonewall. The profound sea change this signaled to me was incredible. I don't think we really appreciate it, or understand it enough.

My high school now has a gay-straight student alliance. Completely unthinkable in the year I graduated.

by Anonymousreply 194April 5, 2019 4:36 PM

R194, fellow Long Islander here, 1971.

That was a beautiful post.

by Anonymousreply 195April 5, 2019 4:39 PM

Fellow Long Islander here, 2013.

by Anonymousreply 196April 5, 2019 4:41 PM

[quote] R124: cheap long distance - You have no idea how far ordinary people would go to avoid long distance charges

A guy who worked for my dad used to call his own mom, to relay a call to his wife. Those calls were “local”, but a direct call to his wife was a toll call with a charge.

by Anonymousreply 197April 5, 2019 4:54 PM

Boomers, and their unrelenting greed and selfishness, have made everything unaffordable. Have you seen what "starter homes" are going for now? Just one example.

by Anonymousreply 198April 5, 2019 4:55 PM

Computers and social media are the big two. I am a teacher and my students wander the halls like zombies between classes staring at their i{hone screens--if you say "Watch out!" right before they're about to walk into you, they look up and glare, as if to say, "How DARE you be in my way when I'm looking at my screen?"

by Anonymousreply 199April 5, 2019 4:55 PM

[quote]Hungary was slammed for closing its borders to Muslim migrants. "NO FUCKING WAY," they said. Their memories aren't so short, I guess. When they were accused of being fascist, they said, "Not yet, but since you ask . . . "

Hungary was ruled by Muslims for 200 years. They destroyed the country. After liberation, it took generations for Hungary to recover from the havoc. They know their history.

by Anonymousreply 200April 5, 2019 5:01 PM

No r178, I live on the East Coast. I’m talking about religiosity in general. Megachurches, hijabs everywhere, constant mentions of God from public figures, it seems like Dubya’s reign allowed for open religiosity everywhere. I WANT people to be more secular. Hopefully it’s the wave of the future.

Also, corporate monoplies under the guise of vertical integration. Which, again, leads to fascism.

by Anonymousreply 201April 5, 2019 5:05 PM

R200 how did they 'destroy the country'? It's weird considering they had a positive impact on places like Spain with furthering art and science.

by Anonymousreply 202April 5, 2019 5:06 PM

Foreskins. Never saw a guy with one until college. Now they seem to be everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 203April 5, 2019 5:07 PM

[quote]it seems like Dubya’s reign allowed for open religiosity everywhere.

That damn Dubya. Good thing I wasn’t around then.

by Anonymousreply 204April 5, 2019 5:09 PM

r202 the Spanish kicked them out, they couldn't wait to be rid of them.

by Anonymousreply 205April 5, 2019 5:10 PM

[quote]Now they seem to be everywhere.

Sigh. I could only hope.

by Anonymousreply 206April 5, 2019 5:13 PM

R205 They couldn't wait to be rid of the Jews too.

by Anonymousreply 207April 5, 2019 5:14 PM

Well who couldn't, r207?

by Anonymousreply 208April 5, 2019 5:15 PM

R201 References to God by politicians are usually done in times of tragedy, not so much in a religious sense but as a symbol for unity and belief in "better things". I don't hold it against them. Most America believes in a God, most people are comforted by the ideas and principles of mainstream religion whether they believe in God or not.

by Anonymousreply 209April 5, 2019 5:23 PM

The internet giving idiots a public forum.

by Anonymousreply 210April 5, 2019 5:24 PM

R209, our world leaders and politicians need to start referencing science instead of God when it comes to tragedy. That's why we have so many non-believers in climate change. People need less comfort and principles and more cold, hard facts.

by Anonymousreply 211April 5, 2019 5:25 PM

Amen r211

The irony is not lost on me...

by Anonymousreply 212April 5, 2019 5:27 PM

R207 England under Edward the 1st expelled the Jews first in about 1290, some Jewish people remained but weren't allowed to openly practice Judaism in the until the mid 19th century.

Though we now have very large well integrated Jewish communities in the UK, especially in London and Manchester.

by Anonymousreply 213April 5, 2019 5:29 PM

R211 How boring! Science referenced in the aftermath of a shooting? A bridge collapse? Give me a break. Where is the tradition, the philosophy, the appreciation for the arts and the unexplainable? Divinity is a global language, science is not.

by Anonymousreply 214April 5, 2019 5:34 PM

R51, Truth in advertising.

by Anonymousreply 215April 5, 2019 6:31 PM

R56, Hahahah! Are you kidding?!

by Anonymousreply 216April 5, 2019 6:32 PM

R63, Yes; the unintended consequences of "Casual Fridays."

by Anonymousreply 217April 5, 2019 6:37 PM

Amen, r210. Even worse, that anyone CARES about some Tweet or other!

The Rise and Influence of the Billionaire Class is mind-numbing. I mean, Kylie Jenner is a BILLIONAIRE.

by Anonymousreply 218April 5, 2019 6:40 PM

For you, r214.

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by Anonymousreply 219April 5, 2019 6:43 PM

[quote] R198: Boomers, and their unrelenting greed and selfishness, have made everything unaffordable...

How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!

-William Shakespeare

by Anonymousreply 220April 5, 2019 6:55 PM

One HUGE shift has been the visibility of religious and political views in everyday life. When I was growing up, it was considered bad manners to not talk about either of those topics in public. People who were always talking about God and religion were considered kooks and mentally unstable. A perfect example is the movie CARRIE, where Margaret White was portrayed as a kook. That's how it was in 1976 and I miss it. Today, someone like Margaret White would be considered mainstream.

This started happening with Reagan and Falwell, and gained steam under George W. Bush. At this point, I wonder if we can ever go back to a more polite time?

by Anonymousreply 221April 5, 2019 7:10 PM

R221, Margaret White was extreme in 1976 and would be extreme in 2019.

by Anonymousreply 222April 5, 2019 7:13 PM

I don't know where you live, r221, but the only place I see discussion of politics or religion is on the internet. If I ever hear either of these topics discussed in public, it's because it's coming out of my *own* mouth, and then I feel foolish and inappropriate for having even brought it up.

by Anonymousreply 223April 5, 2019 7:15 PM

Fascism is when corporate interests control the government.

While it does seem to be on the rise, it’s not due to disabling comment sections at the end of articles or cracking down on immigration.

by Anonymousreply 224April 5, 2019 9:01 PM

Webster Definition of fascism:

a political philosophy, movement, or regime ...that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

R224, we’re almost completely there, and history doesn’t repeat, it rhymes, so that’s as close as we might expect. We can hope!

by Anonymousreply 225April 5, 2019 9:15 PM

[quote]our world leaders and politicians need to start referencing science

[quote]How boring! Science referenced in the aftermath of a shooting?

Everyone needs to go back to "referring to" instead of "referencing."

by Anonymousreply 226April 5, 2019 9:18 PM

Herman Cain for Fed member!

Der Führer has been trying to bully the Fed Chairman for quite a while. I think he’s also been trying to screw with his “enemies”, too. Retribution. Our institutions are like city walls, they stand against assault for as long as they stand, and no longer.

by Anonymousreply 227April 5, 2019 9:21 PM

R31 nailed it. Is anyone else concerned about the dumbing down of America and how gullible people are? I think both are closely related. The number of people who will buy outrageous conspiracy theories like Pizzagate.....hook, line, and sinker. And still believe it even after Alex Jones admitted to making it all up. People who believe Snopes is "liberal" and thus can't be believed. Have people always been this dumb?

by Anonymousreply 228April 5, 2019 9:51 PM

Thanks for the info, R225.

That definition strikes me as more general totalitarianism without getting into divergent motives and origins that would differentiate fascism from communism.

I wonder if that reflects the idea that language evolves and colloquial use of terms that are close, but not exact becomes the new reality.

It makes me think of how the term racism has become a catch-all phrase to mean bias and bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 229April 5, 2019 9:55 PM

Not in my lifetime, but I’ll speak for Mom.

On VJ Day, Victory over Japan Day, she went to Church, TWICE! Today, people would get drunk, or go to the public square, (which I don’t argue against) or both. When JFK was shot, she, and all the kids, went to Church.

This actually follows along with the comment above about the degradation in morals today. The lying, the greed.

by Anonymousreply 230April 5, 2019 10:08 PM

Shopping malls and newspapers becoming extinct. Everything is online now.

by Anonymousreply 231April 5, 2019 10:16 PM

R231, that’s what you think. Malls are still populated just not as many of them.

by Anonymousreply 232April 5, 2019 10:29 PM

And thank baby jeebus for that, r232. I can still recall people complaining about the “mall sprawl” when they were popping up all over the place.

by Anonymousreply 233April 5, 2019 10:32 PM

I miss the cars of the 1960s. Each was uniquely designed. You knew a Thunderbird from a Barracuda, a Valiant from a Falcon, a Galaxie from an Impala. The side panels were entirely individualistic, so were the taillights and the rear wheel skirts, and the tailfins. They were painted every color of the rainbow (except purple).

Today all cars look the same, no matter the brand. Most in red or black or grey or white. Watch Perry Mason or 77 Sunset Strip on cable. You'll see what I mean.

by Anonymousreply 234April 5, 2019 11:24 PM

Who are you, Mannix?

by Anonymousreply 235April 5, 2019 11:26 PM

More blacks on TV and in movies.

by Anonymousreply 236April 5, 2019 11:56 PM

Put this here before, but I can clearly recall mom hurriedly telling us kids to gather all the extra Trimline (landline) phones and hide in the basement until the phone repairman left. Technically, “having” more phones than South Central Bell provided and noted on your account was illegal. I believe they actually “owned” the outlets at that time.

by Anonymousreply 237April 6, 2019 12:29 AM

R237 - yes, I believe you rented your phone each month from the phone company. I don't recall anyone having a stylish or fancy phone - nor could you buy them in stores. (I don't think).

There were definite pluses and minuses to breaking up the Bells.

by Anonymousreply 238April 6, 2019 12:37 AM

R237, and you had to pay for touch-tone!

While it wasn’t “illegal” for you to have more than the phones they had listed, if they found out you did, they would charge you for them. So Mom was right to hide you and the phones.

by Anonymousreply 239April 6, 2019 12:39 AM

R234, hear, hear - I'm so sick of white, grey, and black cars. There are so few colors anymore - and the few that are a different color are sometimes garish.

Wish there was more of a range.

by Anonymousreply 240April 6, 2019 12:44 AM

Regarding religiosity, I even see this on YouTube. I will be watching a video that has nothing to do with religion and if I read the comments someone will be talking about God. Or on a livestream people will ask for prayers, or say "have a blessed day," I know they're just being nice, but it's still weird.

by Anonymousreply 241April 6, 2019 12:45 AM

R240, I saw a chartreuse Jeep yesterday. I wanted one.

by Anonymousreply 242April 6, 2019 1:00 AM

R237 The reason that there was a limit on the number of phones on one line was because of the REN limit which would prevent all of your phones from ringing without a busy signal. There is real science (physics) behind it.

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by Anonymousreply 243April 6, 2019 1:25 AM

I also vaguely remember colored toilet paper. And bathrooms had more colour to them. Now they’re all white and neutral tones.

by Anonymousreply 244April 6, 2019 1:27 AM

The decline in local news. With the extinction of newspapers city desks and alternative papers like Village Voice an LA Week;ly . City Halls have no one monitoring them . Local politicans know this. Their now unreported corruption and abuse of power is robbing us blind.

by Anonymousreply 245April 6, 2019 1:40 AM

Good one r245. The rise of for profit news.

by Anonymousreply 246April 6, 2019 2:14 AM
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by Anonymousreply 247April 6, 2019 2:39 AM

R160 The only black people permitted in the segregated jewelry store were black maids wearing domestic staff uniforms. The uniform indicated to white customers that a maid at the jewelry store was there in the service of her white employer and not as a customer in her own right.

by Anonymousreply 248April 6, 2019 3:04 AM

Guys showered after exercising in locker rooms and didn’t think twice about it. Now guys think everyone is out to see their peepee so they towel dance or simply put on their clothes while still all sweaty and go to work.

by Anonymousreply 249April 6, 2019 3:39 AM

Working hours seem to have changed a lot over the course of my lifetime. As a kid the vast majority of adults worked full time on standard hours (9-5, 8-4, 7-3). A few mothers had a part time job, a few people worked shifts. and a few saleried employees or business owners worked long days. Now it seems like the majority are either under or over employed, working weird hours, cobbling together part time jobs or tele commuting etc. Most people seem to struggle with the lack of routine. We've been trained by our school system to fit into a regimented 9-5 world that doesn't exist any more.  All the expert advice (diet, budget, health etc) also seems to be predicated on those routine hours and incomes. So we stagger around, sleep deprived, trying to fit into a 9-5 Monday to Friday world.

by Anonymousreply 250April 6, 2019 3:43 AM

Selfie culture and the rampant self promotion on social media. If you had done something so transparently vain 20-30 ago you would have been criticized and considered weird.

by Anonymousreply 251April 6, 2019 5:53 AM

I remember taking pictures of myself in the late 90s and thinking that was so lame.

by Anonymousreply 252April 6, 2019 10:30 AM

For R244

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by Anonymousreply 253April 6, 2019 10:33 AM

The death of expertise -- Before, experts (on science, medicine, politics, literature, etc.) were held in high regard, and their opinions were given extra weight. Now, it seems like everyone thinks his or her opinions are just as valid as those of other people, including experts. WTF?

by Anonymousreply 254April 6, 2019 11:32 AM

Thank you, r248. I genuinely didn’t get it.

by Anonymousreply 255April 6, 2019 11:51 AM

r250 For the first part of the 20th century, people used to work a half day on Saturdays (if not a full day.)

by Anonymousreply 256April 6, 2019 4:57 PM

The overthrow of academia by SJWs.

by Anonymousreply 257April 6, 2019 5:35 PM

I’m certainly old, but no Frau. Most are covered quite well already but I’ll give it a try: 1)The mainstreaming of hateful skanks like [78] and [151] and their sociopathic tendencies. Hopefully they will off themselves. 2)[153] provides a nice rebuttal to hateful skanks #1 & #2 noted above. 3)The end of the Fairness Doctrine (really bad) 4) The rise of fascism (WNL pendulum?) 5)The decline of religiosity in the industrialized West 6)The demise of print media 7)SSM 8) Black POTUS 9)The collapse of the USSR 10)The resurgence of White Nationalism 11)The internet 12) Reality TV and the Kardashian effect 13) The “election” of someone like Trumputin to POTUS 14) The ongoing disappearance of the middle class 15) Disappearance of the “American dream” 16) Tranny and autistic kids everywhere 17) The waning of personality responsibility 18) The fading phenomenon of “shame.” 19) Addiction to cell phones 20) Fading desire to be labeled as “White.” 21) Concept of social construction of race mainstreamed 22)The rise of victim culture and SJWs 23)DNA 24)Decline of life expectancy in the US 25) The decline of health indicators in the US and the rise of obesity and Type II Diabetes

by Anonymousreply 258April 6, 2019 6:29 PM

The inability to punctuate and put Rs in front of numbers when on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 259April 6, 2019 6:30 PM

R259 He's early stage dementia don't mind him.

by Anonymousreply 260April 6, 2019 6:33 PM

The inability of pompous queens to realize that they do not matter or accept the reality of what actually DL is.

by Anonymousreply 261April 6, 2019 6:42 PM

Someone put that squealing mess at R258 out of its misery

by Anonymousreply 262April 6, 2019 6:43 PM

R258 - Well put. You are the voice of sanity here.

by Anonymousreply 263April 6, 2019 6:44 PM

Kill yourself, cunt. No one will miss you.

by Anonymousreply 264April 6, 2019 6:44 PM

A voice of sanity wouldn’t list ‘autistic kids everywhere’ as a cultural shift

by Anonymousreply 265April 6, 2019 6:46 PM

The preemptive declaration of not being a frau says it all

by Anonymousreply 266April 6, 2019 6:47 PM

R265 - Blah fucking blah.

by Anonymousreply 267April 6, 2019 6:47 PM

They are everywhere, it is reality. You’re the one placing a value on it.

by Anonymousreply 268April 6, 2019 6:48 PM

Swallow it Charlene

by Anonymousreply 269April 6, 2019 6:48 PM

They’ve always been everywhere, dunce cap

by Anonymousreply 270April 6, 2019 6:49 PM

Elderly

Alt right

Frau

by Anonymousreply 271April 6, 2019 6:50 PM

Missing the point, moron. Lol

by Anonymousreply 272April 6, 2019 6:50 PM

Have the abortion, dearie

by Anonymousreply 273April 6, 2019 6:50 PM

The worst cultural shift has been giving a voice to uneducated people. Yuck!

by Anonymousreply 274April 6, 2019 6:52 PM

I admit I did forget you are 2 days older than god which would make some timeless things new shifts within your lifetime

by Anonymousreply 275April 6, 2019 6:52 PM

Look up the word “epidemiology,”moron, then try placing the word “autism” next to it in the Google machine. Jaysus…Lol

by Anonymousreply 276April 6, 2019 6:54 PM

I was watching "Shadow of a Doubt" recently and I was intrigued with how the old telephones worked. The characters in the movie would pick-up the earpiece and just start talking without dialing anything. An operator was already on the other end. They told the operator who they wanted to call and she would connect them to the other party.

There was a no privacy. They even appeared to know the operator by name. I bet those small town operators knew everybody's business.

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by Anonymousreply 277April 6, 2019 6:55 PM

Autism isn’t a cultural touchstone, dearie

by Anonymousreply 278April 6, 2019 6:58 PM

Maybe try an ESL class, dearie. Op didn’t mention “touchstones.” Clearly, the words “nuance” and “sociology” are lost you. Really? Lol.

by Anonymousreply 279April 6, 2019 7:02 PM

[quote]Never being totally off work. You used to leave the job at 5 or 5:30 and not think about it until the next day.

[quote]your father would work 30 years for one company, get a gold watch and a pension and that was that

[quote]Working hours seem to have changed a lot over the course of my lifetime

This is the first thought that came to mind when I saw the topic of this thread: the loss of balance between work and free time, which has not coincidentally happened as unions declined. Likely, R146's father was a paying, card-carrying member of a labor union, and was proud to be. Unions guaranteed a good salary (one parent could make enough to support a family of four), benefits (like health insurance), and a retirement; today, it takes 3 full-time jobs to support a family, which no longer includes putting the kids through college or even enough for an annual family vacation, let alone home ownership or saving for retirement.

When I was in high school (the early 80s), the store where I held a part-time job attempted an "on-call" program where employees were expected to be available at the manager's beck and call and to be able to report to work within 30 minutes of receiving a call — and the employees rebelled and said "no way." When management got more and more aggressive about it, the employees got together and talked about forming a union, which scared the hell out of management and they backed down immediately. As an independent business owner, I would never attempt to institute such a policy, and I don't even like it when my employees stop by the office on their day off, but employee after employee has told me that in previous jobs, they were expected to be available 24/7 and if they didn't respond to a voicemail or text within minutes, were fired. I've had friends get a call in the middle of a Saturday or Sunday evening dinner and have to leave immediately when their boss called.

I check email all the time, but that's because I own the place; again, unless it is an absolute emergency, I wouldn't think of calling, texting or emailing an employee and think I was going to get a response before the next business day. Likewise, I don't tolerate goofing off or wasting time during the workday, which is now accepted that personal issues and just plain distractions are simply part of the job. One of the first discussions I have with new employees is that I respect their time and I expect that they will respect mine, and if I'm paying them to be working, they should be working (and not on social media, talking on their phone, or generally wasting time). It's been surprising that so many new young hires think that it's acceptable to spend an hour or more of their work day on Facebook, Instagram or what have you. It takes some getting used to, but I've ultimately found that once an employee realizes that work time respect is a two way street, they appreciate it.

And somehow, the planet keeps spinning, but I've been told my views — at least on this topic — are anachronistic.

by Anonymousreply 280April 6, 2019 8:22 PM

Men being forced to control themselves around women wearing leggings.

by Anonymousreply 281April 6, 2019 8:57 PM

Mainstream indifference towards: Masturbation, drug use (illicit and prescribed), anal sex, porn, atheism, cremation, academic rigor, merit, bailouts for crooks, endless war, education costs, affordable housing, infrastructure, Russia, China, rural communities, for-profit prisons and hospitals, rapacious/predatory capitalism, too-bigs-to-fail, monopolies, duopolies, anti-trust, conflicts of interest, price-fixing, payola, bank robbery by bankers, capping interest rates, clean water, safe food, leadership, anonymity, privacy, discretion, restraint, social ostracism, shame, decorum, dress codes, tattoos, addiction, employee/employer loyalty, etc etc etc. There's a lot that's changed in a generation if you think about it.

by Anonymousreply 282April 6, 2019 9:35 PM

Mass mind control.

by Anonymousreply 283April 6, 2019 9:36 PM

[quote]And somehow, the planet keeps spinning, but I've been told my views — at least on this topic — are anachronistic.

I say the people that say that are full of shit, or people who want to just screw around at work or both.

As a union member, and union rep, I’d be proud to work for you. Imagine, a business owner who gets it, that it’s a two-way street. Never thought I would see it.

by Anonymousreply 284April 6, 2019 10:24 PM

Hopefully I don't come off as mean, but I see kids who have learning differences being coddled. They get extra time for a test. They can take a test in a private room. The parents insist on it. When these kids enter the real world, they're not going to be able to take extra time on a work project or choose which room they are going to work in. They need to be learning mechanisms to cope with the demands of the real world. I hope this is happening in schools.

by Anonymousreply 285April 6, 2019 10:27 PM

Why are people seeing through their phones? Instead of seeing Adam Levine perform at the Super Bowl, they are looking at their cell phones as they raise them over their heads to film him. How do they know they are catching Adam Levine in the lens? Same thing at the Olympics. The athletes walk into the stadium behind their flags at the opening ceremony. Instead of feeling this moment which may never happen again, they are raising their phones to film the people in the stands. I just don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 286April 6, 2019 10:34 PM

Instead of experiencing in the special moment it is more important to them to record it so they can show someone else they were there.

by Anonymousreply 287April 6, 2019 10:37 PM

experiencing the special moment

by Anonymousreply 288April 6, 2019 10:38 PM

One of the most noxious customs of the good old days was when people actually invited you over to their home to view their vacation movies. I loathed those events. Times have not changed, except now everyone is foisting their videos of their latest excitements on you whether you are interested or not.

Social Media is the worst thing that has happened in 100 years IMO.

by Anonymousreply 289April 7, 2019 3:36 AM

R280 I would love to work for you. I am unemployed.

by Anonymousreply 290April 7, 2019 10:10 AM

R287 Last night we went for drinks with a friend of my partner's. They've known each other since HS. The friend makes good money but isn't really tuned in to anything that isn't basic consumerism. She asked us, when we go to see a play or an opera, if it makes any difference whether the cast is known or not. Like, is it really good value to pay extra to see someone who is a name. What do they have that the others don't? Difficult to explain. We did, but she remained sort of skeptic. The few times she's been to the opera, she got the cheap seats because she feels it's better value.

She asked me how I picked an opera to go see. Among other things, I told her I may listen to a recording of the opera beforehand to see if I like the music. That idea seemed totally new to her (I guess, why hear the same thing twice?)

by Anonymousreply 291April 7, 2019 10:18 AM

[quote] Webster Definition of fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime ...that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Here’s a quote from Trump : [italic] “I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough – until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.” [/Italic]

Trump has called the Press “The enemy of the People”, called for the arrest of political opponents; said he would not recognize the validity of an election if he didn’t win it; and asked for personal loyalty oaths from political appointees.

He’s a fascist.

by Anonymousreply 292April 7, 2019 6:03 PM
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by Anonymousreply 293April 7, 2019 7:08 PM

Bodily functions being discussed openly.

by Anonymousreply 294April 8, 2019 3:23 PM

[quote]One of the most noxious customs of the good old days was when people actually invited you over to their home to view their vacation movies.

Back in 2000, i returned from vacation and posted my photos on yahoo, then sent a e-mail to everyone with the address. If people wanted to see them, they looked, if not, they were free to ignore them.

That worked best for me -- I never did MySpace or Facebook.

by Anonymousreply 295April 8, 2019 3:36 PM

R294 When did this particular shift happen? Cause I remember it from the 1980s. I'm sure it was happening before. Maybe early 1970s? After the break provided from the Victorian period. Because this was also happening in the 16th century, not to mention the Middle Ages, and likely the Romans...

Bodily functions being discussed openly is a trend that comes and goes...

by Anonymousreply 296April 8, 2019 3:41 PM

Body functions? Mid-90s, when the Victim Cultures (who love to wallow in shit) ended The American Century.

by Anonymousreply 297April 8, 2019 3:43 PM

Sorry, forgot OP meant IN YOUR LIFETIME

by Anonymousreply 298April 8, 2019 3:45 PM

Clown-colored hair.

by Anonymousreply 299April 8, 2019 3:46 PM

Devolution has been the trend. How did this become acceptable? Tolerance so well-intentioned and well-meaning has begun undermining the liberality from which it sprang in the form of political correctness: Multiculturalism an anathema, for example.

by Anonymousreply 300April 8, 2019 3:56 PM

It seems so bland, but the rise of unscripted television. "Reality" TV was an inexpensive way for exploding cable TV stations to offer new programming in the late 90s. During the 2006 writers’ strike the American TV networks amped up the development of unscripted shows to circumvent unions and cut costs.

Who would have guessed that a seemingly benign shift in what television programmed would have such a profound impact on American culture? Whether it was games – Survivor/American Idol, style – HGTV/E! Entertainment, or opinion – FOX news/MSNBC, TV and its messaging has been reinvented in the past 2 decades.

And remember that part of SM is a spin-off of “reality” programming. Instagram, Facebook and YouTube create their own celebrities and bolster those created for TV, like the Kardashians.

But the sad thing about all of this is the public outcome of a culture of equivocating. Because “reality” TV needs to pad and pump up its content, we’ve all come to accept that there’s a little bit of lying to it. Whether it’s fake bad singer eliminations, or Joanna and Chip pretending they don’t know which house the buyers will choose, Or Ari insisting “BREAKING NEWS” on a week-old story, the fix is always in.

And we have come to accept it, or simply look the other way. It’s why we have a “reality” TV star in the White House. It’s why a family of nothings are the biggest celebrities in the world. And with a couple of decades of Simon Cowell and others, off-handed cruelty is a quality that even 10 year old kids pull off with little effort.

The whole “reality” movement has become a huge social ill, but because the MSM creates it, they’re not about to take responsibility for the damage.

by Anonymousreply 301April 8, 2019 4:18 PM

Trump works as satire. We live in an age of satire. He is where he is for a reason. Some of us may not like it, but he is a mirror. There is lesson to be taken, benign for now -- he is a warning. It is still a great country.

by Anonymousreply 302April 8, 2019 4:35 PM

We're scum and we know it.

by Anonymousreply 303April 8, 2019 4:39 PM

Most of us in LA stopped hiking and camping when we reached our teens. If we became parents, we might have started again for the kids, but generally, the mountain areas around the Basin were empty save for children. Now, everyone wants to go on hikes, with the new immigrants forever getting lost or falling off of cliffs.

by Anonymousreply 304April 9, 2019 12:43 PM

The coarsening of women.

by Anonymousreply 305April 9, 2019 3:23 PM

How frank and up front people are about their sexual proclivities. No embarrassment.

by Anonymousreply 306April 9, 2019 4:11 PM

When I was a teen, parents didn’t buy cars for their kids. Kids got jobs to buy a used car. Beetles were popular. We’d all pile into a car and go out to friends houses, to the movies, to a diner or a house party.

You never see carloads of teens anymore

by Anonymousreply 307April 9, 2019 4:47 PM

[quote] The worst cultural shift has been giving a voice to uneducated people. Yuck!

I trace this back to “Take Thos Job and Shove It” and “I’m an Okie from Muskogee.” Both songs celebrated dumbassery

by Anonymousreply 308April 9, 2019 4:55 PM

When I was a teen (1990s) parents bought cars for their kids, but they were used cars that were 10 years old. Not the brand new cars that these spoiled brats get today.

by Anonymousreply 309April 9, 2019 4:58 PM

R179 is either a fool or a mole.

by Anonymousreply 310April 9, 2019 5:03 PM

The popularity of ABBA. When they were on the scene their music was played on AM radio & at children’s parties. It was up there with Captain & Tenille and Starland Vocal Band.

Which reminds me of another cultural shift — FM radio. Rock n roll started on AM radio. In the late 60s, FM radio was a place where you could hear “album music” - not just single released records for the Top 40. In fact, I’m not sure how many rock albums were sold before the advent of FM radio, sure, the Beatles and Rolling Stones sold albums, but would a band like Cream or Moody Blues sell an album without FM radio?

by Anonymousreply 311April 9, 2019 5:15 PM

Yes, I remember the "top 40" stations were on the AM band in the 60s and 70s. In my memory, FM stations seemed to be for hard rockers.

by Anonymousreply 312April 9, 2019 11:30 PM

@ABC7

Woman calls 911 after thinking Roomba was burglar locked in her bathroom

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by Anonymousreply 313April 10, 2019 1:41 PM

Earrings used to be longer

Caftans used to be floral

by Anonymousreply 314April 10, 2019 1:44 PM

Elder here. When I was a child in the mid-1960s, everything in the culture changed overnight. The predominant aesthetic went from the 1950s (bouffants, conservative dress, etc) to mod/hippie all of a sudden. The music went from doo-wop to acid rock. America went from straitlaced to "do your own thing." I think it happened around 1964, a combination of the Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, drugs and the Beatles. But it was radical and fast.

Think about it - "Bye Bye Birdie" was in 1962. The Summer of Love etc was 1967, a mere five years later. It doesn't happen that way anymore. The 90s were 20 years ago and everything looks basically the same.

by Anonymousreply 315April 10, 2019 1:52 PM

R197: Yeah the whole toll setup was interesting on phone systems. For example the town of North Providence, RI - if you live on one end your telephone services would come out of the Pawtucket calling area which incurred a toll if you called Warwick or East Greenwich. It was ludicrous. At one point the cost of having Foreign Exchange service worked for me so I put in a line through agreement with a BBS provider in East Greenwich and had it forward to the EG line. I got use of the line for my modem, I found out the forward would just continue to put calls through into a hunt group that had been setup.

Oh and in the early 1980's - the phone companies hadn't yet gotten their heads around the amount of fraud being committed against them. And most of the telecom setup was still electromechanical. It wasn't until the late 1980's and early 1990's when the digital switches started being deployed with Out of Band call setup.

by Anonymousreply 316April 10, 2019 2:27 PM

The Beatles were the first big change the '60s brought to my life, r315. I started buying their records in seventh grade, and by the following year, my eighth grade nun was shrieking constantly at me and a couple of other boys to "get the bangs outa yer eyes" (in full Boston Irish accent). And my hair got longer, my pants got bell-ier, and I started smoking pot in 11th grade. I didn't actually drink until I was 24, as drinking was now deemed uncool.

by Anonymousreply 317April 10, 2019 3:07 PM

I have been watching The Andy Griffith show on Netflix to get away from all things Trump. On one episode Barney and Andy were in a room full of women. Barney said, "All the women in here are dogs, if you put a quail in the center of the room they would probably all start pointing." I burst out laughing thinking OMG if that was said today. Sadly we all thought it was funny at the time.

by Anonymousreply 318April 10, 2019 3:12 PM

Oh let’s not even get into the cultural changes in TV shows.

I saw an episode of Adam-12 the other day that actually had the N-word in it! I’m still trying to get help to get my jaw off the ground.

by Anonymousreply 319April 10, 2019 3:42 PM

Unisex birth control that doesn't involve latex

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by Anonymousreply 320April 10, 2019 3:47 PM

[quote]I saw an episode of Adam-12 the other day that actually had the N-word in it! I’m still trying to get help to get my jaw off the ground.

That is just something we never, ever said, even in the '50s.

by Anonymousreply 321April 10, 2019 3:49 PM

The progression of computers has been fascinating. What once was made with tubes and miles of wire has shrunken to the size you can hold one in your hands. And the first transistor was a huge thing around 3x4x3 inches. Now their down in the nano range.

And recall MS-DOS - all text baby. Now we've got fairly slick GUI's for everything. Granted more annoyances with things like say Windows 10 but it will get better and better.

by Anonymousreply 322April 10, 2019 4:01 PM

Everybody is in such a hurry today. Everyone is speeding or running in and running out of places.

Slow the fuck down and enjoy life.

by Anonymousreply 323April 10, 2019 4:20 PM

In the 90s, being busy was something to brag about even though most who did were just busy bragging...

by Anonymousreply 324April 10, 2019 4:29 PM

R319 the n word used to be allowed on regular television until some point in the early 90s when censors banned the word.

There’s an episode of Family Matters where a white student writes the N word on Laura Winslow’s locker. When it originally aired you saw the word. After rules changed they couldn’t show the word written any longer whenever the episode was rebroadcast.

by Anonymousreply 325April 10, 2019 4:34 PM

[quote] think it happened around 1964, a combination of the Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, drugs and the Beatles

Nothing to do with the Civil Rights movement, desegregation and inner city riots?

by Anonymousreply 326April 10, 2019 4:34 PM

Newspapers described black people as Negroes until the early 70s.

African American caught on in the late 90s.

by Anonymousreply 327April 10, 2019 4:36 PM

I have a reprinted newspaper from 1963, the day of the JFK assassination that I bought n the early 90s.. First, all black people were referred to as “colored” and it had nothing to do with anything in the story. Like this “Louise Wilson, a colored maid, said she heard a sound outside and looked out the window.”

“John Reynolds, a colored janitor, saw a man running down the street.”

I’d completely forgotten that! It was in the mid to late 60s that there was a big push by the African American community to stop mentioning race in newspaper stories unless it was absolutely necessary, as in if someone had amnesia and needed to be given a description. It really jumped out at me in the 90s, but I also remembered that I always read that an African American person was “colored” if they were talked about in the newspaper.

Even the “Man on the Street” interviews in the NY Daily News, which published a photo of the people giving their opinion would identify someone as “Simon Grey, a colored waiter.” It was insane.

Another thing I noticed was how many parochial schools and nuns were around in NY in 1963. There were photos of classes with a nun in a full habit. “St Thomas the Apostle’s fifth grade class won the Catholic school spelling bee.”

“Sister John Mary takes her class from Our Lady of Sorrows to visit patients at St Veronica’s Hospital.”

In just a few years most of those schools would close down and/or be consolidated.

by Anonymousreply 328April 10, 2019 4:58 PM

I remember 1968 as the year it was no longer cool to say "colored." Instead, "black."

by Anonymousreply 329April 10, 2019 5:04 PM

In LA, I don't remember them using "colored in the mid to late 60s (when I leaned to read), only "Negro."

by Anonymousreply 330April 10, 2019 5:10 PM

Just a question, what is the correct word or phrase to use today? I've been told by some black people to use Black, others say to use African-American, and now Person of Color seems to be en vogue, but I have never actually met anyone who uses it. Black seems the easiest to use because it pairs best with white people being called white, and most everyday people I've met seems to prefer it. Also, Person of Color seems like a trap because in the course of a conversation, especially about racial issues, it would easy for the brain to shorten Person of Color into colored.

by Anonymousreply 331April 10, 2019 5:20 PM

Whereas before, some restaurants used ferns to separate tables and booths, now many use hydroponic systems for the same thing, and to grow their own herbs.

by Anonymousreply 332April 10, 2019 5:22 PM

The policing of language.

by Anonymousreply 333April 10, 2019 5:46 PM

Chain restaurants & fast food. When I was growing up all restaurants were owned by local people. You had to make a reservation for a certain time on a certain night. No reservation, no seating. You had to dress appropriately. Women had to wear dresses, men had to wear suits. Children were only allowed in the daytime on holidays like Mothers Day, or at a daytime wedding. No children at night. There was often a piano player or Friday and Saturday nights. People only went out to eat on birthdays, anniversaries, holidays, day time religious occasions (First Communion, Confirmation, etc), weddings, graduations. It was a special occasion replete with perfume, after shave, visits to the beauty parlor or barber. My mother’s friend owned one of the restaurants in town. On Saturday nights the owners of all the restaurants would send relatives or employees to drive around the parking lots of the other restaurants to count the number of cars. It was really competitive. The food was endless. Relish tray, rolls, shrimp cocktail, consommé, appetizer, salad, dinner, dessert & coffee. (Shrimp cocktail with all dinners...it wasn’t considered an appetizer).

There was a fast food burger joint in my town, but it was also locally owned. No Burger King or McDs yet.

by Anonymousreply 334April 10, 2019 6:38 PM

How old are you r334?

by Anonymousreply 335April 10, 2019 6:45 PM

R335 Exactly, did his town not at least have diners, where people could take children after dark, that did not take reservations, and would be closer to the chain restaurants of today.

by Anonymousreply 336April 10, 2019 6:49 PM

The play zone for children. I've read articles about how that has drastically been scaled back. When I was a kid in the 1970s, a group of us would go all over the place. We'd go 5-6 miles to swimming spots, go deep in the woods, walk to the center of town, ride our bikes all over town, etc. We were all over the place in the summer. We'd then come back for lunch and head out again for the day. Now kids basically stay at home, in their yard, or on their streets. Parents know where their kids are all the time thanks to cell phone monitoring. Then we wonder why these overprotected children need constant coddling when they're adults.

by Anonymousreply 337April 10, 2019 6:59 PM

Kids are in their basements, R337, playing video games & watching porn.

by Anonymousreply 338April 10, 2019 7:29 PM

That’s my biggest gripe. How many KIDS, literally KIDS, watch porn now.

by Anonymousreply 339April 10, 2019 7:35 PM

Everything done by all of these devices shown in this 1991 Radio Shack ad can now be done by one device -- your phone.

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by Anonymousreply 340April 10, 2019 7:40 PM

I'm with R49 This whole I'm offended thing is being pushed by women and sissies. I first noticed in 2012 when I was talking to this girl at work completely normal about nothing and I noticed she was making a face. I asked her what was wrong and she said "It's your tone". I remember thinking WTF. Little did I know.

by Anonymousreply 341April 10, 2019 7:53 PM

You must have used the same tone with her in 2012, r341, that you're using with us here today.

by Anonymousreply 342April 10, 2019 7:57 PM

I think that the demise of originality is definitely a major cultural shift... shifting away from people having an imagination.

by Anonymousreply 343April 10, 2019 7:58 PM

R342 Grow up and get some fortitude.

by Anonymousreply 344April 10, 2019 8:01 PM

No, no r342, I think he’s right.

We can all tell you “have a tone.”

by Anonymousreply 345April 10, 2019 8:15 PM

^^Shit, meant r344.

Joke ruined.

by Anonymousreply 346April 10, 2019 8:15 PM

r344 sounds...[italic]offended[/italic]. Woman or sissy?

by Anonymousreply 347April 10, 2019 8:21 PM

[/italic]Woman or sissy?

by Anonymousreply 348April 10, 2019 8:21 PM

Russians went from the mortal enemy to our best buddies, apparently.

by Anonymousreply 349April 10, 2019 8:23 PM

As in WW2, r349

by Anonymousreply 350April 10, 2019 8:24 PM

What is R341 doing on a gay site?

by Anonymousreply 351April 10, 2019 8:39 PM

Exuding "tone," r351.

by Anonymousreply 352April 10, 2019 8:40 PM

R315

2008 is very different from 2013. Great changes in that five year period.

by Anonymousreply 353April 10, 2019 8:50 PM

Uh oh. The queers are offended. I see you all identify as sissies.

by Anonymousreply 354April 10, 2019 10:31 PM

R351 And I am gay.

by Anonymousreply 355April 10, 2019 10:36 PM

Back in the 60s and 70s, everyone walked to the right. They drove on the right, they walked grocery aisles on the right, they walked malls on the right. Now I see people walk directly into someone else's path, and don't even acknowledge it. They leave their grocery carts in the middle of aisles, preventing those on the right AND the left to navigate it. Walking a mall is like dodgeball; I am exhausted after a shopping trip.

Don't get me started on distracted drivers....

by Anonymousreply 356April 10, 2019 10:55 PM

r354, you are NOT r342.

by Anonymousreply 357April 11, 2019 12:15 AM

Fat people. Everywhere. Like, REALLY fat people. Years ago, a truly obese person was a rare sight. The size of so many people these days is startling.

by Anonymousreply 358April 11, 2019 1:41 AM

The rise of Satanism.

by Anonymousreply 359April 11, 2019 1:54 AM

R353, it sure as hell all *looks* the same.

by Anonymousreply 360April 11, 2019 3:37 AM

You can’t describe someone as colored, but now you can describe them as a person OF color.

by Anonymousreply 361April 11, 2019 3:56 AM

R357 oops. haha.

by Anonymousreply 362April 11, 2019 4:01 AM

You can't wear nothing but thick veils of WHITE silk, layered one on top of the other.

by Anonymousreply 363April 11, 2019 5:39 AM

This.

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by Anonymousreply 364April 11, 2019 2:32 PM

Cat videos!

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by Anonymousreply 365April 11, 2019 11:48 PM

The celebration of holidays has changed. I don't shop at stores which force their employees to work on Thanksgiving Day. We are told we should say "Merry Christmas" to people of other faiths. Memorial Day is a day of merriment. Holidays have been turned upside down.

by Anonymousreply 366April 14, 2019 11:18 PM

You don’t hear very many great new love songs anymore in pop music.

by Anonymousreply 367April 15, 2019 12:14 AM

I’m a Millennial and I still remember using floppy disks in elementary to play games (and it took like 7 damn discs) or save single written word documents from giant PCs. I remember the release of Window2k being a big deal, and PlayStation 2 coming out.

I also owned and loved a Sony Walkman and many cassette & VHS tapes as a kindergartener. Now they’re retro.

by Anonymousreply 368April 15, 2019 4:32 PM

DJs being considered musicians.

The total collapse of Pop Music.

by Anonymousreply 369April 15, 2019 6:32 PM

Notre Dame burning.

I realise now I moved to Paris to be near Notre Dame.

by Anonymousreply 370April 15, 2019 6:49 PM

People I might otherwise consider respectable human beings considering Ariana Grande a respectable human being. I'm unfollowing anyone who includes her in their 'chella stories.

by Anonymousreply 371April 15, 2019 7:11 PM

^Just the fact she headlined is disgraceful, she doesn't need more exposure for her lazy, artless, brain death pop music and she isn't even an outstanding live performer. St. Vincent or even Grimes are more worthy festival headliners.

by Anonymousreply 372April 16, 2019 11:56 AM

The popularity of JPop in the West ceding to KPop.

Back in the weeaboo days you couldn’t tell us NOTHIN.

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by Anonymousreply 373April 18, 2019 8:15 PM

[quote]You don’t hear very many great new love songs anymore in pop music.

I don't hear any.

by Anonymousreply 374April 18, 2019 9:07 PM

Uneducated youth having so much power.

by Anonymousreply 375April 18, 2019 9:12 PM

The rise of dogs

by Anonymousreply 376April 18, 2019 9:15 PM

Dogs are the new 2.5 children.

by Anonymousreply 377April 18, 2019 9:22 PM

My dogs are my kids!

by Anonymousreply 378April 18, 2019 9:30 PM

People dragging their dogs with them everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 379April 18, 2019 9:39 PM

I don't get the "New Lesbianism". I mean, Lesbians have vaginas, it's our thing, right?

by Anonymousreply 380April 18, 2019 9:49 PM

[quote]No more clunkers on the road. Used to be lots of cars that had obviously survived a wreck, or with peeling paint, or just plain really old. I even couldn't find them in the backroads of Tennessee a few years ago, no jalopies.

Same here in England.

Also you rarely see restored period cars driving around anymore. You used to see them quite a lot.

by Anonymousreply 381April 18, 2019 9:54 PM

Men wore hats. After JFK appeared hatless at his inauguration, men stopped with hats and only started wearing them again recently.

Baseball hats became accepted in the 90s. Now hipsters are trying to bring back fedoras, etc

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by Anonymousreply 382April 18, 2019 9:57 PM

Apologies if these were mentioned earlier and I missed them:

The notion of personal privacy seems to be as antiquated as writing letters and putting them in the post, or paying bills by check/cheque.

Some retail businesses request/require ID when a customer pays by credit card. Some stores require ID when a customer attempts to pay his monthly statement in person with cash.

Retail used to live and die by customer demand. Now retail removes things or institutes some policy that is restrictive and posts prepared pabulum script: "Sorry you find our improvements unsatisfactory." Removing features that helped the customer are not improvements.

by Anonymousreply 383April 18, 2019 10:00 PM

[quote]Baseball hats became accepted in the 90s.

Before that.

I was wearing them all the time in the '80s.

When I came to live in London circa '88, people would stare, not quite stare...look twice, when I wore one. Now they're so normal here.

by Anonymousreply 384April 18, 2019 10:15 PM

Sales started at 25% off, then went to 50% off, then 75% off. I used to buy Xmas stuff at Pier One for 90% off.

Now I get 5% off with a target card. I get emails screaming about 11% off or 17% off. The only time you see 50% off is when it’s an “up to 50% off” sale and good luck trying to find the one thing that’s 50% off.

We had a hardware store that sold some really nice Christmas stuff. Nice cards, gifts, etc. I used to go in there 5he day after Xmas and buy stuff for the following year. One day around 2002 I walked in and the new owners, Pakistanis, were pulling all the Xmas stuff off the shelves and packing it away. That was the first time I ever saw that. Now. Christmas stuff is never 50% off online.

by Anonymousreply 385April 18, 2019 10:19 PM

[quote]prepared pabulum script

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 386April 18, 2019 10:48 PM

The shift in people putting naked pictures of themself out there.

I know this is because of the internet and smart phones, but just a generation ago, it was a much bigger deal to expose yourself like that. BITD, it woud have terrified most people to think nude photos of themself were circulating publicly.

by Anonymousreply 387April 18, 2019 11:05 PM

*would

by Anonymousreply 388April 18, 2019 11:06 PM

I posted this in another thread, but it’s relevant here.

When did people become so familiar? My name is, let’s say, Brian Smith.

I’ve had a lot of work done at my house recently, and also had to go to a couple of different doctors.

Not once did anyone call me “Mr. Smith.” Everyone, and I mean everyone, immediately said, “Brian.” What if I went to see Dr. Charles Jones and said, “how we doin’ Chuck?”

Realistically, chances are I’d tell them to call me by my first name, but it’s rude to assume.

by Anonymousreply 389April 18, 2019 11:09 PM

[quote]When did people become so familiar?

A LONG time ago.

Sometimes if I'm speaking to someone at the bank or similar, they ask if they can call you by your first name...I feel a bit of a cunt saying NO. But in that sort of situation they should call you by your last name.

by Anonymousreply 390April 18, 2019 11:12 PM

I agree, r390. But it also goes beyond that. When I was a kid, I had to call any adult Mr. or Miss/Mrs. If I couldn’t pronounce their last name, it had to be Mr. Frank (or whatever).

Nowadays my friend’s son and his ilk call adults by their first names! Never would’ve happened when we were young.

by Anonymousreply 391April 18, 2019 11:20 PM

R117, I think a lot of the tastemakers died of AIDS.

Speaking of which, I've seen HIV go from a frightening rumor, to certain death, to no big deal in my lifetime. (I am 44).

by Anonymousreply 392April 18, 2019 11:29 PM

R117 -- there hasn't been much true technological innovation in the past twenty years either, since the Jews took control of STEM and stuffed the industry with second rate rate white guys and dull immigrants who wouldn't challenge them as they looted.

Boeing was always bad with asshole white guys in charge, but now they can no longer make planes, satellites or any of the products with which they once led the way.

by Anonymousreply 393April 18, 2019 11:34 PM

r386 That was not my post, but I don't see anything wrong with it. What's your issue?

by Anonymousreply 394April 18, 2019 11:53 PM
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by Anonymousreply 395April 19, 2019 5:13 PM

Who would think, R387, so many people are willing to show themselves naked. It's astounding to me. Now I wonder if several "Playgirl" type magazines would have been sustainable 40 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 396April 19, 2019 11:33 PM

[quote] But it also goes beyond that. When I was a kid, I had to call any adult Mr. or Miss/Mrs. I

My parents made me call my grandparents by their last name. “Grandma and Grandpa Jones” and “Grandma and Grandpa Smith.” When mug husband told my son to call his grandmothers “Grandma Jane” and “Grandma Betty” I was a little horrified. We were never allowed to address our grandparents by first name.

by Anonymousreply 397April 19, 2019 11:46 PM

The only t8ne we were allowed to call adults by their first names is if we put aunt or uncle in front of their names. So my mother’s best friends were Aunt Barbara and Aunt Bonnie and their husbands were Uncle Mike & Uncle Joe.

by Anonymousreply 398April 19, 2019 11:49 PM

Um having HIV is a big deal. It’s not a death sentence but it’s a major health issue.

by Anonymousreply 399April 19, 2019 11:52 PM

You got dressed up for church

You got dressed up when you went into town

You got dressed up when you went into a department store

You got dressed up to go to a restaurant

You got dressed up to go on a plane

You got dressed up to go to a play or to a symphony. Even if it was the local high school play.

You got dressed up for Easter, Christmas & thanksgiving.

by Anonymousreply 400April 19, 2019 11:52 PM

My mother had a thing about us NOT calling people who weren't our aunt and uncle, aunt and uncle.

by Anonymousreply 401April 19, 2019 11:52 PM

Drinking during the day was acceptable.

by Anonymousreply 402April 20, 2019 12:27 AM

HIV is still a huge deal. People are still dying of it in the United States, and it has huge impacts on health and Quality of life. It still Carries a huge social stigma; after all, it is an STD. Most people still would not willingly have sex or date someone with HIV.

by Anonymousreply 403April 20, 2019 9:09 AM

I’m sure this has been mentioned, but the atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes that are rampant. I’m on Facebook and it hurts my brain to read some of those posts. Even in corporate emails you’d think some of the senders are functionally illiterate.

Admittedly, written communications have become much more prevalent today than years ago, so we’re seeing more things in print as opposed to hearing them, so that may be a factor.

Datalounge is truly the exception. While there are some who make grammar and spelling errors, they’re usually pointed out, but the overwhelming majority of posts contain no such errors. Another reason I like coming here.

by Anonymousreply 404April 20, 2019 11:32 AM

The death of real quiet. I grew up in the suburbs in the 80's and even in urban areas general silence was the norm. Everyday stillness could be pierced by someone turning a TV or radio on, or the phone would ring, or a siren would go by, and that would be it. TV and radio had moments of silence between things. You'd sit in quiet in theaters before the feature began. It was "boring" but little did we know how good we had it. You'd go to malls or airports and the only noise was (maybe) announcements over loudspeakers or muzak which seemed obtrusive at the time but seem quaint in comparison to today, where ads and music are everywhere competing over each other and seem sonically designed to invade your brain at every second until you can't think. I know this all makes me seem old and out of touch but it's how I feel. Where do people fine repose today so their minds can form and build genuine thought?

by Anonymousreply 405April 20, 2019 12:48 PM

r405 reminds me I'm glad I don't have too much longer to live (I hope). The planet has become uninhabitable.

by Anonymousreply 406April 20, 2019 12:51 PM

R399, I guess I see the posts about "I'll just take Prep" and about Bug Chasers, and that makes me think some young men don't care, but, then not much has changed, then, has it?

by Anonymousreply 407April 20, 2019 5:08 PM

Humanity is always the same for the last million years r407

Life is a banquet. Happy now?

by Anonymousreply 408April 20, 2019 6:11 PM

Really, R405? Years ago I remember being in either Hone Depot or Lowes and the music was so loud and the overhead announcements nonstop. “Tom go to paint....hardware pickup!......Stan cone to the front!” I wrote an email to corporate about it. And on3 day it stopped. I’m not sure if cellphones made a difference or if irs because hardly anyone works in Home Depot/Lowe’s anymore.

I’m shocked at workplaces that allow people on their phones all day and night. Restaurants, supermarkets, shops...just everyone is on their phone all the time. That’s fine in your leisure time...I don’t care if you can’t muster up social skills outside of work, it’s your life. But at work, that shouldn’t be allowed.

by Anonymousreply 409April 20, 2019 11:50 PM

I'm a white guy and I have a really hard time with calling people black when they're all sorts of pretty shades of brown. And I will state I've always though the range of human coloration was beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 410April 21, 2019 1:45 AM

Hikes in remote places, R405.

by Anonymousreply 411April 21, 2019 10:18 AM

The talkies at the picture show. What a difference!

by Anonymousreply 412April 21, 2019 8:43 PM

In the late 90s, I had a very crappy job filled with mean people, so one day I had it and took the day off . i ended up heading for the hills and just drove and drove and drove until I ended up somewhere that looked pretty enough for a picture. I got out of my car, and there was just....Silence.

I had never heard silence before.

I have never heard it since.

by Anonymousreply 413April 21, 2019 9:13 PM

The tipping point where it became normal for people in movie theaters to talk constantly or text on their phones, and have people tell them to be quiet, and a verbal fight breaks out, over and over throughout the screening. Followed by people leaving the theater angry and going online to rant about you can't go to the movies anymore because this kind of behavior is rampant in every theater everywhere, and getting worse.

It's just hopeless at this point.

Seeing a movie in the theater/vowing to never see a movie in a theater again. There's a cultural shift in my lifetime!

by Anonymousreply 414April 21, 2019 9:21 PM

The best films to see on the big screen are the science fiction movies. You go when it is all fan boyz and gurls and never will you see a better behaved audience.

by Anonymousreply 415April 21, 2019 9:31 PM

Everybody lies as a matter of routine now. When I was young, it was a fairly rare thing.

by Anonymousreply 416April 21, 2019 9:45 PM

When I was growing up, everyone always got a new church outfit for Easter Sunday. Little girls got a new dress, and boys got a new suit, or slacks and dress shirt. Women would buy a new dress for Easter. Everybody dressed up for Easter services.

Now people wear jeans and sneakers to church. Today, moist women wear pants to church, which would have been a big no-no when I was a kid.

by Anonymousreply 417April 21, 2019 9:45 PM

[quote]Today, moist women wear pants to church, which would have been a big no-no when I was a kid.

Even today, it's better if they're dry.

by Anonymousreply 418April 21, 2019 9:47 PM

I'd like to hear from eldergays about what it was like when US colleges began to go co-ed in the 60s. Was it a welcome change? Was there much opposition to it? What was the prevailing attitude among faculty and students? Did campus life change dramatically?

by Anonymousreply 419April 21, 2019 9:55 PM

r419 Most colleges were co-ed well before the 1960s.

by Anonymousreply 420April 22, 2019 1:50 AM

R414 Just go to arthouse movies. Problem solved!

by Anonymousreply 421April 22, 2019 7:17 AM

Being called a bigot because you said men can't get pregnant and have babies.

by Anonymousreply 422April 22, 2019 8:07 AM

Social media has completely changed social interaction. Most younger people are emmersed online in a fake world of narcissism and one upmanship, I honestly think social media is one of the worst things to happen to humanity in the last 20 years

by Anonymousreply 423April 22, 2019 8:16 AM

[quote]Most younger people are emmersed online

They’re what now?

by Anonymousreply 424April 22, 2019 11:58 AM

I agree r323. I think Twitter, in particular, has done more harm than good.

by Anonymousreply 425April 22, 2019 2:00 PM

“A dingo ate my baby” is no longer an acceptable answer.

by Anonymousreply 426April 22, 2019 2:56 PM

Never was, r426.

by Anonymousreply 427April 22, 2019 2:57 PM

Lack of genuine human caring about each other.

by Anonymousreply 428April 22, 2019 5:01 PM

Oh fuck you, r428.

by Anonymousreply 429April 22, 2019 5:02 PM

New York City becoming a giant mini-mall with theatre.

by Anonymousreply 430April 22, 2019 5:21 PM

I only go to the Alamo Drafthouse for that reason.—no rude and trashy idiots taking calls, checking their phones, texting or talking during the movie.

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by Anonymousreply 431April 22, 2019 5:25 PM

R431 hit on another negative cultural shift: rude behavior being tolerated, encouraged, enabled, and even celebrated in public. Even in the 1980s when I was a child, my parents would have taken me out of the theatre for being disruptive. And we only had cell phones for making calls in cars and doing nothing else.

by Anonymousreply 432April 22, 2019 5:28 PM

Obviously, gay marriage (already mentioned). And now the growing mainstreaming of gender fluidity. With the recent admissions by celebs re how they are raising their own kids (Charlize, in the past week) look for this idea to become more accepted rather quickly.

by Anonymousreply 433April 22, 2019 5:39 PM

Women wearing ugly clothes that don’t flatter them, and their hair looks dirty and uncombed. Old women dyeing their hair pink, purple and blue.

Men wearing hipster beards we haven’t seen the likes of since the 19th century and the whole shaved head thing.

I briefly watched a show on St Patrick’s Cathedral and they showed people at mass including a short, fat man wearing a tent-like tee shirt with something written on it,, giant shorts and white socks. That’s a cultural shift from when I was a kid. Men and women dressed for church and tried to look good.

by Anonymousreply 434April 22, 2019 5:43 PM

[quote]And now the growing mainstreaming of abti-gay bigotry under the guise of Pomo g*nd*rist propaganda. With the recent admissions by celebs re how they are raising their own kids (Charlize, in the past week) look for gay rights to get rolled back completely if we don’t put a stop to it.

Fixed.

by Anonymousreply 435April 22, 2019 5:47 PM

Single motherhood becoming the norm.

by Anonymousreply 436April 22, 2019 5:57 PM

Deeming any societal norm that promotes mutual respect in public as “oppression” or a violation of civil rights.

by Anonymousreply 437April 22, 2019 6:00 PM

The psychotic obsession of SJWs to destroy the lives of anyone who mildly disagrees with them.

Just remember, you could be next.

by Anonymousreply 438April 22, 2019 6:02 PM

Adults who fetishize childhood so that everything having to do with either their kids or being a parent is the only thing that really matters in life.

by Anonymousreply 439April 22, 2019 6:03 PM

When I was growing up, you might get a small allowance and that was it. If your family was middle-class, you might get a used car when you turned 16.

Today, parents spend tens of thousands of dollars giving their kids everything they want. Expensive cars, clothes, credit cards, trips, Sweet 16 birthday parties. It's crazy.

by Anonymousreply 440April 22, 2019 6:14 PM

I had a job by age 13. If you wanted things, you got a job and paid for them. Girls babysat, boys mowed lawns, raked leaves, shoveled snow, delivered newspapers. You could mow lawns all dat Thursday and Friday and have 💰 💴 for the weekend. Go to the movies, buy candy, go to a diner with your friends.

by Anonymousreply 441April 22, 2019 6:28 PM

Never expected to be able to fly to Russian cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg with just a visa and plane ticket.

by Anonymousreply 442April 22, 2019 6:43 PM

Rampant greed/selfishness/indifference Quality or a helluva lot is down the toilet, service at businesses (locally owned and otherwise) tends to be a joke, corporations and rich people are fucking the rest of us from here to Neptune, everyone lies about all the time and it's taken as normal.

And we're all taking it, probably turning into the people we hate because on a societal level, selfishness feeds on itself and some of it's fueled because the poors fighting among themselves serves the rich people's best interests. No, I don't have any damn idea what to do about it. We need some sort of leader who's the love child of MLK and Bernie Sanders. If that person happens to come along, it might be smart to place a bet on that person being assassinated in less than a decade.

I've spent some time working in other countries, which have at least their share of serious shortcomings. To come back to the USA and see it with fresh eyes and a fresh perspective, it can look like a hideous, wildly fucked up joke.

by Anonymousreply 443April 22, 2019 8:38 PM

One of the biggest changes that we don't think about anymore are airports. Going to the airport used to be so easy and fun. You could stroll in with your purse and a cocktail and walk straight to your seat on the airplane. There was almost no security and you could walk up the gate, even if you didn't have a ticket. I made flights with 15 minutes till takeoff.

Ever since 9/11, airplane travel has been a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 444April 22, 2019 8:46 PM

I know several people who have to constantly travel by plane for their respective careers, and I don't know how they do it. I would go mad if I had to deal with airports and planes on an almost weekly basis.

by Anonymousreply 445April 22, 2019 8:49 PM

The mainstreaming of vulgarity. Especially on TV.

by Anonymousreply 446April 22, 2019 9:12 PM

VERY good point, r446!

by Anonymousreply 447April 22, 2019 9:30 PM

Most of the people who complain about vulgarity on TV are usually into some shady shit themselves. The fact that Bile Cosby is a convicted rapist and the father from [italic]Seventh Heaven[/italic] is a pedophile speaks volumes.

by Anonymousreply 448April 22, 2019 9:37 PM

R448 - Usually? Maybe some cases. But not usually.

by Anonymousreply 449April 22, 2019 9:38 PM

Vulgarity, sex and extreme violence in mainstream media.

by Anonymousreply 450April 22, 2019 10:03 PM

ALWAYS R449

Look at Ms Lindsey, for example

by Anonymousreply 451April 22, 2019 10:15 PM

We let Rap and gangsta culture take over. Now it's all a San Francisco shit storm. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 452April 22, 2019 10:38 PM

Rap and gangsta culture is from SF? WTF?

by Anonymousreply 453April 22, 2019 10:40 PM

R453 - No. The shit storm is San Francisco-esque because San Francisco is now synonymous with poop.

by Anonymousreply 454April 22, 2019 10:48 PM

Trans politics infiltrating everything.

by Anonymousreply 455April 22, 2019 10:55 PM

It was a big deal when our family went to McDonald's in the 60s. Sometimes it happened on the way home from the grocery store on a Friday night, sometimes on a Saturday lunchtime. My parents kept it secret until we pulled into the McDonald's parking lot. We were SO happy! Most of the kids in our middle-class neighborhood had never been to McDonald's, so we didn't brag about it.

I was allowed one bottle of Coca-Cola on Friday nights, that's it for the week. McDonald's and Coca-Cola on the same night was bonus time, I was giddy.

by Anonymousreply 456April 22, 2019 11:32 PM

People asking to speak to a manager so frequently.

by Anonymousreply 457April 22, 2019 11:35 PM

R456, thanks for sharing that. That made me feel so good for some reason. Very nice.

by Anonymousreply 458April 22, 2019 11:54 PM

Early in my youth, the Earth's tectonic plates shifted. But they seemed to have settled now.

by Anonymousreply 459April 23, 2019 12:00 AM

Oooh, were they Farberware?

by Anonymousreply 460April 23, 2019 12:05 AM

People forcing you to view their nasty sex lives or fantasy sex life at every turn.

by Anonymousreply 461April 23, 2019 12:40 AM

R456 / for us it was Howard Johnson’s.

Early 70s - my family rarely ate in restaurants - but we would drive past this one Howard Johnson’s every time we visited my moms aunt. Me and my sister would beg and plead to “please please please stop,” and about once every 8th time my dad would pull into the parking lot. We. Would. Go. Ballistic.

Back then they had those special kids menus you would keep - they were like a comic book or an activity page - and I remember one time we held them up against the long windows in the back of the station wagon to make people in other cars jealous.

by Anonymousreply 462April 23, 2019 2:32 AM

I used to go to IHOP every once in a while, but watching people eat 9/10 of their food and then decide to complain about it for some random reason and want it comp’ed, leaving the poor waiters no tip was just too depressing. It happened every time I went, and the poor managers complied, knowing that the grifter trash perpetrating the scam would make a scene or destroy their rating on Yelp, so free food for everyone. So gross.

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by Anonymousreply 463April 23, 2019 4:47 AM

"Press one for English. Para la prensa española dos."

by Anonymousreply 464April 23, 2019 5:45 AM

I get to talk to the press in Spain just by pressing 2? That’s quite a connection. Hope I don’t get charged extra. Joder....

by Anonymousreply 465April 23, 2019 6:21 AM

The death of radio and pop music in general. It used to be that those were the only ways I would discover new pop music. When musicians would drop an album, it would be a whole event. People would line up outside Tower Records for hours to get a copy of an album the day it debuted. Even mediocre musicians were selling millions of CDs, sometimes tens of millions.

Record companies became too greedy, increasing the price of albums and singles. Then came file-sharing sites like Napster and Limewire. Then the iPod. Then Youtube. Now everybody seems to stream music on their phone from programs like Spotify.

I don't even listen to the radio on my drive anymore. I just play music from my phone. I doubt kids these days ever even listen to the radio.

by Anonymousreply 466April 23, 2019 6:35 AM

Land whales everywhere. There was a girl in my freshman class I only remember as "the fat girl," but looking back, by today's standards she wasn't all that big. Maybe 160 pounds. Today she would be ordinary.

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by Anonymousreply 467April 23, 2019 10:19 AM

Same, r467. I can remember only two girls and one guy in my high school who were land whales. And I think with all three of them it was that genetic kind of obesity, unrelated to diet. Today, you see enormously fat teenagers, especially girls, everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 468April 23, 2019 12:12 PM

R468 It seems more young guys (20s) have beer guts.

by Anonymousreply 469April 24, 2019 8:12 AM

More rheumatoid and psoriatic arthritis

by Anonymousreply 470April 24, 2019 11:34 PM

and no more "ring around the collar" and "the heartbreak of psoriasis".

by Anonymousreply 471April 25, 2019 11:23 PM

Not sure if someone upthread mentioned this, but The Oscars

Use to be a BIG deal. Now, it hardly makes an impact.

by Anonymousreply 472April 25, 2019 11:49 PM

I rarely see teenagers with acne.

by Anonymousreply 473April 26, 2019 12:32 AM

The oscars is still a big deal.

by Anonymousreply 474April 26, 2019 12:33 AM

There weren't widespread Oscars parties when I grew up.

by Anonymousreply 475April 26, 2019 12:40 AM

R182

Raised as Christians and converted to Islam...

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by Anonymousreply 476April 26, 2019 10:30 PM

Bethlehem Steel

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by Anonymousreply 477May 19, 2019 1:04 PM

How the USA transformed from a WASP country to a Jewish country. Now craven, cowardly, greedy and sexually arid.

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