Once Upon A Time in Hollywood Trailer

I thought it was about the Manson murders. Where's the blood??

no thanks

I guess he doesn’t want to give much away, but the studio won’t allow such ambiguity for long. In the months ahead we’ll have trailers and commercials showing everything.

Except for Robbie's slo-mo jump at 1:12, I find this trailer unexciting. Kind of awful, even.

I thought it was about events in Hollywood in the late sixties which included Manson.

Pitt looks terrible. Like an old botoxed lesbian. He needs to go away.

Why the need to announce what sequential number this is in Tarantino's filmography? Is there something significant about this being the 9th film? I don't recall his other films being so prominently numbered, although I guess The Hateful Eight didn't need to since the number was in title.

Tarantino claims he’s only going to make 10 movies.

It would be better if Margot Robbie even vaguely resembled Sharon Tate. Ugh.

She’s close enough.

Doesn't matter as younger people mostly have no clue who she was and what she looked like. And not to even mention the overseas audiences.

There's a lesbian actress who I saw recently who resembles Tate to a frightening degree... but she's about a decade older... I'm sure someone knows who I'm talking about, but her name escapes me.

[quote]Tarantino claims he’s only going to make 10 movies.

Then wouldn't it be great if he would just split this one in two?

decade older than Sharon was when she died, I mean...

Whoever they hired to play Bruce Lee is doing a good job!

The vast majority of the film-going public have no idea what Sharon Tate looked like or who she was.

Tanrantino did an amazing job of transforming parts of LA back to the 60s. I was lucky enough to see some of the locations and it was incredible. Hopefully the movie is good.

I think you should be crediting the production designer more than Tarantino.

It's Mike Moh from "Empire," R15, and I think there is some CGI involved because in real life, there is a slight resemblance, but nothing like in the trailer.

[QUOTE]I think you should be crediting the production designer more than Tarantino.

The production designer did the job that Tarantino asked him to do. It’s his vision.

Are we to assume the Rick Dalton character is at least a little bit based on James Garner? He was in a big western TV show and then starred in a film called MARLOWE with Bruce Lee, and even trained with Lee as a lot of Hollywood actors did.

"Make this section of Fairfax look like it did in 1969."

Ooooh what a genius.

Thanks R19

[quote] I thought it was about events in Hollywood in the late sixties which included Manson.

Um, that's exactly what this teeny glimpse of the film looks like. Perhaps you were thinking 1860s.

Looks very fun to me and very alive with the confusion and spirit of that time. A few clear references to the Manson family, the new encroaching on the old in spirit and reality. That was the late 60s. Pitt's 55 and he still looks great. That scene of him taking off his sunglasses and looking serious, I wonder if that's him seeing or learning about the murders.

I can't wait.

It’s Diora Baird

Agree, R24 I was a kid during that time and I think the movie looks trippy and atmospheric and great. Frankly I’m not interested in a strict retelling of the killings, but to see that time and place and scene captured would be cool. I wonder if we’ll get a whiff of the Dennis Wilson, John Phillips, etc. party scene.

Can anyone tell me what the very last line DiCaprio says is? I can’t quite make it out

Did Mike know play Ben fucking tourists in almost famous?

Ok that’s how my dictation interpreted “Did Mike Moh play Ben Fong Torres in Almost Famous?”

I heard there's someone as Cass, so the rest of that group should be around.

R29 Wow OK. I noticed they start the trailer with a riff from “straight shooter,” which is an early and sort of obscure mamas and papas tune. I’m a huge fan of theirs so I would love to see this. Maybe they’ll re-create the Laurel Canyon scene. Love and peace until it all went to shit.

Looks like we get a peek of Charlie, looking like a little weasel.

R30, me too. It's a shame Michelle hasn't been able to get a biopic going. Cass was an interesting woman.

That was Terry Chen, R28.

“the new encroaching on the old in spirit and reality. That was the late 60s”

Exactly right, very astute, as I said upthread I was a sort of aware kid at that time and that’s how it felt to me. I can still picture my very conservative father reading the daily news on the beach in August with Charlie splashed all over the cover. It was lurid and terrifying to me.

R32 Thanks, His delivery sounded exactly the same.

I think it looks great. But I love the idea of going to back to LA in the late 60s.

R31 A decent biopic would have to tell some probably ugly truths about that scene, is Michele really up for that?

[quote]Can anyone tell me what the very last line DiCaprio says is? I can’t quite make it out

It's a bit of a Laurel/Yanny situation online, but I personally heard, "Great fucking note." Others have heard, "Rick fucking Dalton."

Tarantino will maximize the sex and violence/gore to make movie-goers (ie, teenagers) care about a 60s period piece. Yuck.

R36, I read some of what Michelle wrote years ago when Carnie Wilson wanted to play Cass. It was pretty honest.

Why did they put Brad Pitt in this movie? He looks like he is 75.

We should all look so good at 75.

It's definitely "Rick Fucking Dalton."

Underwhelmed by the trailer but still hopeful.

We'll find out soon enough. Cannes is in May.

Some motherfucker in another thread already spoiled the whole movie!

Um, wasn't Sharon Tate pregnant at that time?

Tarantino's unending adolescence and his obsession with old, bad Hollywood is just tired out. He's just an awful person (had a meeting with him once) and he's been inflicting his horrifying and silly tastes on us for too long. This movie will bomb. No on cares about Brad Pitt at all anymore, and another film created by a smug white guy about smug white guys will go nowhere.

You don't have to like it, but I doubt it'll bomb. Fucking DLers are out of touch.

Leo looks horrible

First you're another squint-eyed stud,

Then someone's father,

Then you're crud!

Then you career from career to career--

I'm almost through my memoirs, and I'm here!

Tell us more about your meeting with him r47

The dialog is so unbelievably kitschy.

Yes, I know. Dialogue.

[QUOTE]Leo looks horrible

He’s aging terribly due to his lifestyle.

R47 Agree. He doesn't seem to realize that most moviegoers have gotten onto the fact that his ideas are unoriginal. This movie looks like total summer popcorn fare that will end up in the five dollar blu-ray bin by the end of the year.

LINE!

::snort::

I guess we’re seeing a suggestion of Spahn Ranch? Is the stuntman supposed to be Shorty Shea?

[quote]Once Upon A Time in Hollywood Trailer

Love to see what those two did in a Hollywood trailer once upon a time.

If Sharon’s sister approves of this maybe the murders aren’t shown at all.

Would she have been able to see it in advance?

Robbie in the pool is very Laurel Canyon, so yeah.

Pardon me, but who is the guy in the last shot who says "Ricky fuckin' Dalton" supposed to be?

Inglorious Basterds did quite well. I wouldn't bet against Tarantino.

[quote] maybe the murders aren’t shown at all.

It would be just like Quentin Tarantino to make a film about the Tate murders and not show the gory details!

Tate murders? This film is not about that.

thought I saw Cass in the trailer

I didn’t see Cass, who was of course the big mama. The very first blonde you see however is quite Michelle-like. Although maybe it’s meant to be Sharon.

It's Sharon.

[quote]Leo looks horrible

The closet ages.

I like Leo’s weary grizzled look. It seems to suit the character. I struggled for years to see him as anything other than a kid. Digging him and Pitt together in these roles.

Is Brad even trying to act anymore? What even was that?

Leo drinks the hard stuff

[quote]Leo drinks the hard stuff

The Haas Joy Juice.

r65 again, I think it was Cass in red/feathers right after the fight scene with 'Bruce Lee'

Leo has a big old pumpkin head.

I was excited to see Bruce Lee portrayed in the trailer, I didn't realize he would be in the film. He was a fascinating, talented person and a good friend of Tate's. I wonder what other figures of the 1960s will have roles .

[quote] I noticed they start the trailer with a riff from “straight shooter,” which is an early and sort of obscure mamas and papas tune

After the murders the police found the sheet music for Straight Shooter on Sharon's piano in the living room.

The movie very much features the Manson Murders but I doubt very much they'll be seen on the screen. The murders were a real wake up call to all of us who thought the freedom and liberation of that time could only bring us roses and lollipops. Too many people let their guards down completely in the name of whatever - too many people refused to judge others when judging needed to be done. Our rejection and derision of our parents' old fashioned caution and warnings took a real hit. We grew up a lot that summer. Sadder and wiser.

There was a screening tonight of a Sharon Tate movie (a thriller) starring Hillary Duff (!) and Lydia Hearst as Abigal Folger. I almost went for laughs.

BTW, that is Cass in that scene right after the Bruce Lee fight.

I have to admit that I find Brad Pitt very sexy in OP’s photo.

R77 lol you should've.

R77 I can't believe they cast Hilary Duff. Not only does the skanky bitch look nothing like Tate , she also can't act. If they were going to hire someone who can't act at least get some model who looks like her .

It's called The Haunting of Sharon Tate. My star fucker friend went because Patty Hearst was there.

Who says they don't make camp anymore? Most of it goes straight to DVD, but it happens (see: "Prodigy").

R80 since when is Duff a skank?

R78 you're entitled. Enjoy!

R83 Since she got knocked up with some hockey trashbuckets kid, moved to a smoking apartment complex in NYC and then sicced her boyfriend and social media followers on the guy next door for smoking in his own apartment. And also when she insulted the gifted Ms. Faye Dunaway.

R85 what did she say about Faye??

R85 She insulted Faye's looks when Faye expressed displeasure at Duffs casting in a shitty Bonnie and Clyde remake.

Anybody that dated Aaron Carter is trash. Besides Joel Madden when she was 16 and he was 25.

[Quote] Anybody that dated Aaron Carter is trash.

Hey!!

Well, it was only a one night stand but, yeah, I’m garbage.

New trailer

Direct link.

Better than the first one but still doesn't get me excited enough to see it.

Will it be like what he did with Inglourious Basterds where he revises history?

In this movie Sharon Tate overpowers the Manson gang with the help of the Orgasmatron from Barbarella.

Tarantino should have hired the Muslim Bruce Lee...his resemblance to Bruce Lee is unreal

Brad's still got it

I noticed Quentin managed to get his fetishes for feet and frying Nazis into the trailer.

I'm sorry, I think it looks fantastic. As a native Angeleno, I love that time period - I was born in 1980 so I missed out in. But I love hearing my mom tell me stories of how it amazing was LA was in the late 60s. And how Manson ruined it, quite literally overnight.

"Will it be like what he did with Inglourious Basterds where he revises history?"

That's the rumor. He's begging audiences to not spoil the big twist. I don't want to spoil but the rumor is that similar to IB, Quentin revises history in this new movie.

Sharon realizes she can do better than Roman Polanski and aborts his baby.

My prediction is that Tarantino will have Sharon survive the attack and then seek revenge against the Manson clan by hunting down each member and killing them.

Re: r92's trailer link: Leo is so fucking ugly at 0:41. It's hard to believe that at one point I actually had the hots for him.

Who else spotted DL favorite Lens?!

I was an extra in the movie when Pitt is driving in the convertible at Hollywood and Vine at night. But even I have very little interest in seeing this after the trailer. Just looks boring and no characters seem interesting. Maybe it's just a "I adore Hollywood" movie and QT giving us that for his canon. Pacino who can only play an old hymie at this point, hamming up the Hebraic angle as the agent. More anti-Nazi stuff to appeal to the Jews that sign QT's cheques. It's just predictable and boring. Cheesy dialogue. Leo comedic attempts look dreadful. Yet another movie with no true romantic relationship that is worth a damn. Django with the wife being rescued didn't give me any feelings at all either. Having said that, the mood of the piece and the time looks spectacular. But no, this looks poor.

Thank God for Scorsese's filmography and now i will watch Casino again. Now there's a movie.

I like the song in the new trailer. "Good Thing" by Paul Revere and the Raiders, an underrated 60s band, I always thought. Mark Lindsay is still around.

"Good Thing" was produced by Terry Melcher, btw. Another wink, like "Straight Shooter" in the first trailer.

I wonder how many women will be beaten up to a bloody pulp and how much gay rape will feature in the movie, those being vital staples of Quentin's esteemed filmography.

There's a reason why I called on twitter for him to lose funding on his movies last year when Uma released her article.

I'll still be seeing this because Lena D has a role in the flick.

It pains me to say it, but Leo cannot act anymore. He lost whatever versatility and subtlety he used to have. He has his bag of tricks that he pulls in every movie and that's it. I was hoping that he'd let loose a bit after his Oscar win, stop playing it safe, but if the trailer is anything to go by, it will be his usuall shtick. It's sad to see someone who had so much potential end up as a caricature of himself.

R109 I agree.

No spoilers, but Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is easily Tarantino’s feetiest movie #Cannes2019

#puke

Alex Billington @ Cannes

The biggest surprise of #Cannes2019 - Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood deserves to win the Palme Dog award. Seriously. 🐶🐶

🧚🏻‍♀️ @succubusbrat

Soooo once upon a time in Hollywood is basically an homage to tarantino’s filmography... the narcissism of Quentin...

Only Brat Pitt has been highlighted in these reactions so far.

What is the implication of palme dog? That its a bad film?

I wonder if the studio might actually get ballsy and push both Leo and Brad in Lead to try and get the rare double Lead Actor noms.

Kyle Buchanan ✔

There will be many, many hot takes to come on the new Tarantino but I don’t mind letting mine cool off on the counter a little longer. I know it’s more relaxed than I was expecting, and that DiCaprio is terrific, funny and poignant. The rest, I’m gonna mull over. #Cannes2019

Pretty sure Sony will try to fraud Pitt in supporting.

I assume Leo will out act Brad because Brad can’t act.

Such bullshit, all you queens here will pull out your size 4X mini skirts and vinyl go-go boots and be first online.

r122 shut your whore mouth breeder

It looks horrible.

The Cannes stuff so far is positive, if not raves.

“although Margot Robbie gives a sympathetic portrayal of Tate, Dakota Fanning is intimidatingly sinister as the Mansonite called Squeaky and Lorenza Izzo has a spirited turn as the mercurial Italian screen star Francesca Cappuccino”

The Guardian

Ramin Setoodeh

There are so many shots in #OnceUponATimeinHollywood where Tarantino shoots Brad Pitt driving a Chevrolet from behind the wheel. And I just kept thinking of how unsafe Uma Thurman felt making ‘Kill Bill.’ #Cannes2019

These early reviews are barely mentioning Robbie.

Tarantino's ninth feature is a hangout movie that takes a liberal approach to Hollywood history.

Grade: B

3/5 from The Upcoming:

Obviously, Pitt needs to go supporting if he wants to win.

No one this year wants to compete with Eddie Redmayne’s second Oscar winning role.

Could movie critics be going a little harder on it because it aims to depict *their* world (thinking they're in show business)?

@BrentALang

DiCaprio is easily the best part of #OnceUponATimeInHollywood. I'm not sure how this will play to audiences who aren't diehard fans of movie biz lore, Spaghetti westerns, and long-forgotten TV shows. I also suspect there will be controversies.

You can start the debate on lead vs. supporting actor Pitt, but I think both are lead. Pitt gives the more subtle perf that sticks with you, but DiCaprio shows more range. Likely DiCaprio, but this is gonna be a Pitt perf people are going to remember for years

Margot Robbie is very, very good. She does exactly what the role requires, but due to the nature of it I would be surprised if she gets a Supporting Actress nod. This makes more sense in context but it can't hurt Sony to try. No other real potential acting nods with this one.

The problem with Quentin Tarantino is the same problem with Woody Allen

The historicist aesthetic that each one of them has devoted themselves to (prewar American cinema and theater and postwar European art house for Allen; 60s and 70s grindhouse for Tarantino) is simply no longer relevant to the moviegoing public

I expect this film will do poorly.

The usual Tarentino flashy swill

Six minute standing ovation and no they don't do that for every film. In fact movies have been booed at their premiere in Cannes.

I am sorry to say that most movies currently playing in the theaters don't look all that compelling. This at least looks different and potentially fun.

Tarantino is on double-secret probation with me after the crappy final act of Django Unchained (which is why I skipped Hateful Eight). But I've always been a sucker for 60s Hollywood and all things Manson Family-related, so I'll give this a shot.

Holy crap Guardian gave it 5 stars out of 5.

Will this say "Special thanks to Harvey Weinstein" in the credits or did he have nothing to do with the movie at all?

Or, R137, you'll take a stab at it?

Once Upon A Time in Hollywood.

His ninth film.

Nine syllables in the title.

You decide.

I think DiCaprio looks terrific in this, and I'm not normally a fan. Middle age looks well on him. Likewise, Brad Pitt, who has turned into kind of a grizzled character actor, and I think it's a good change for him.

Well the reviews already give it away. Most of them give the whole fucking story away the idiots.

But one said "The usual revisionist history as in his previous work" or something to that score. Meaning he's going to change the Tate murder's outcome. Leo might rape Polanski as Pitt decapitates him.

Maybe Jay Sebring murders the girls from the cult.

Hopefully Lena Dunham gets wacked at one point either way.

Oh, is Lens Dunham in this? What is she playing? Hopefully, Abigail Folger and we get to see her viciously murdered.

I don't get why 50 year old fuggo Timothy Olyphant is playing 32 year old and gorgeous James Stacy. Timothy will never get a leg up in the role.

Here's a question: do all the #metoo actresses and loud SJW chicks like Brie, Chastain, Portman and the rest ... do they despise Tarantino and will they speak out against this or boycott or what?

I recall Chastain really hammering Tarantino after the Uma thing came out.

.......

R127, Eric Kohn writing for Indiewiire is one of those critics who openly dislikes Tarantino. When Tarantino asked that people not reveal spoilers, Kohn tried to make Tarantino look bad - despite the fact that other directors have done the same including another director at Cannes this year. Not one person on Kohn's twitter feed agreed with him. LOL! Still he begrudgingly gave Once Upon a Time a B.

Despite those with their knives out for Tarantino, it can't drown out the praise for the film.

Quentin lost a shit ton of weight. He looks good.

Kohn was agreed with by people loke Matt Zoller Seitz though, because they were going on at length about how people who dislike spoilers are watching films wrong. Tiresome.

93% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes 🍅

Consensus:

‘Thrillingly unrestrained yet solidly crafted, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood tempers Tarantino's provocative impulses with the clarity of a mature filmmaker's vision.’

Between the lines I hear cheezy

R146 Portman

Portman supported Polanski the rapist why would she hate Tarantino?

I never go to movie theaters anymore, but I honestly can't wait for this one.

Sharon Tate at the Cannes Film Festival, (1968) and Margot Robbie at the Cannes Film Festival, (2019).

Jeff Wells:

"If you want a fast-and-hard assessment of Quentin Tarantino‘s Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, which I attempted to convey two or three hours ago, it goes like this: Four-fifths of this half-century-old Hollywood fantasy is lightly amusing, in and out, yes and no, decent and diverting as far as it goes. But the final fifth is payoff time — a taut, time-clocky, here-we-go, edge-of-the-seat finale that is absolutely insane, exuberant, take-charge and fucking-ass nuts.

I could boil it all down and simply call the last half-hour a “happy” ending, except the craziness is so balls-out unhinged…I’m obviously having trouble describing it. I have my tastes and standards and you all have yours, but by the measuring stick of Hollywood Elsewhere the finale is really, really great. As in laugh-out-loud, hard-thigh-slap, whoo-whoo satisfying. Do I dare use the term good-vibey? And the very end (as in the last two minutes) is…naahh, that’ll do."

Quentin Tarantino's "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" stands a big chance in next year's Oscar race

I can't wait. I love most of his films and I have a very good feeeling about it from what i have been reading. He is a genius film maker.

Lol the review mistakes Pacino for De Niro

lol at this comment from awardswatch

[quote]How do u think someone like robbie got into the business in the first place? Its actually progress when her legs are only on show and not spread anymore.

Quentin Tarantino Snaps at Reporter When Asked About Margot Robbie’s Limited Role in ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’

“I just got married six months ago,” Tarantino said, as he nodded to his wife–Daniella Pick–who was sitting in the front row. “I’ve never done that before. Now I know why. I was waiting for the perfect girl.”

he gay

R155 that’s a little creepy

Hate that we now have to wait til July.

[quote] It pains me to say it, but Leo cannot act anymore. He lost whatever versatility and subtlety he used to have.

You just noticed this? He hasn't been able to act in over 20 years. He has no depth as an actor, he is now unattractive and yet he is somehow one of the biggest leading men in Hollywood. Whoever thinks Jews run Hollywood isn't thinking of this guy.

They're really trying to make Margaret Qualley happen.

Are the murders going to be in the movie?

Who or what does Margaret Qualley play, anybody know?

r168 Fictional character called Kitty Kat. Not much beyond that can be found in the press.

Why does Thurman at R147 look like a working-class German woman from a rough neighborhood who's had a very tough life (and chain-smoked for most of it) when she's in fact a pampered movie star?

Nobody is bringing up Weinstein???

The wife was acquired to distract from Weinstein problem.

Can someone spoil the movie? TIA.

It is funny how for 25 years Harvey and Quentin referred to each other as their "best friend" and now we pretend they had no association.

It is true that when Harvey got wind of the charges coming at him in those articles, Quentin was notified and suddenly had an engagement party in NYC. Everyone knows its to show him as a married righteous man now.

Didn't quentin on Howard Stern once say that the girl Polanski raped wasn't raped in his opinion and was a girl who liked to party? Says it all.

Can't wait to see this movie but Im worried about running time. Is it 3 hours long?

There is an 8 year old in the movie and confusion about her age r173

[quote]another film created by a smug white guy about smug white guys will go nowhere.

R47 Why so much hate for films that feature a predominantly white cast? I see this all the time on YouTube comments. All-black or all-Asian or all-Hispanic = wonderful! But mostly white = the devil!

It broke my heart last year when a Maine school did an "end of the year" video, but because the video was all-white students (Maine is 95% white) some of the comments were shaming the school for presumably only allowing white students and just saying awful things about them.

The far left has become very anti-white and anti-male, it seems.

The film takes place in 1969 when Hollywood was still predominantly white. They can't just stick in POC as major characters to appease modern sensibilities.

Additionally it seems like Bruce Lee's playing a significant role in the film. Also, Tarantino's the wrong director to come for. He may not be the most elegant filmmaker when it comes to racial issues, but he's given minorities of all races juicy roles to play throughout his career.

Homophobia in Hollywood and Fake Girlfriends for Leonardo DiCaprio at '5:00

Tarantino needs his next film to be an adaption of Pam Grier's autobiography. A great read.

there were a few snippets of the character sharon tate in the trailer and a brief one of manson. The movie is not primarily about the manson murders, it just factors in to an extent as the character, Sharon, is the next door neighbor of the Pitt/ Leonardo characters.......... this is why Sharon tates sister approved of this script as it brought out more of Sharon tate the human being as opposed to sharon tate, the murder victim. The trailer isnt all that appealing, hopefully the movie will be better.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tarantino showed Debra Tate a script that wasn't used for filming. Debra was such a fucking cunt when she thought Jennifer Lawrence was being consider to play Sharon and she went bitching to TMZ and other outlets even though Tarantino said Jennifer was being considered for another part.

Why did Quentin bring his wife Danielle onto the red carpet with Pitt and Leo and Margot, who stood there without their spouses or dates for the event?

I don't get that. Was Danielle in the movie or something?

She always has r170. She looks like Big Bird as well.

Can’t wait!

R182 it’s because she is his beard and the distraction from Weinstein questions. He wants to yammer about how changed a person he is.

R272 supposedly it's been entered on the Wikipedia page for the film under the plot summary

R182 He wants us to know that he has a WIFE and he's STRAIGHT he really is desperate for Oscar he started his campaign very early.

He has Oscar for his writing but not for his directing.

It's now August 8, 1969; Cliff and Rick return to the ranch and walk into a murder plot where Manson's female army have kidnapped Sharon and several others and prepare to massacre them in a ritualistic after party of sorts celebrating Hollywood violence by role-playing a live-violent exploitative film shoot of their own while murdering the hostages. Lee shows up to save the hostages and together with Rick and Cliff brutally defeat the Manson Family cult in a shoot out/kung-fu showdown. Sharon is saved and Rick and Cliff, despite their careers having not amounted to their ambitions, acknowledge it is the end of an era and that the Hollywood spirit will live on.

.... wow that looks stupid. But Leo and Pitt will be killing all the WOMEN in the cult I imagine in brutal fashion.

Talking about beards and desperation for Oscar Joaquin Phoenix comes to my mind he's now bearding with Mara and he's winning Oscar very soon maybe for 'Joker'.

Between Phoenix (Joker) and DiCaprio (for Once Upon ...) who has better shot at winning Oscar for next year?

Sharon Tate’s Sister Reacts to Margot Robbie’s Portrayal After SLAMMING Hilary Duff and J. Law

Meanwhile, when Jennifer Lawrence was rumored to take on the role of Sharon for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Debra said, “Not that I have anything against [Lawrence], but she’s...she’s not pretty enough to play Sharon. That’s a horrible thing to say, but you know. I have my standards.”

What a bs ending

[bold]Spoiler alert[/bold]

It's now August 8, 1969; Cliff and Rick return to the ranch and walk into a murder plot where Manson's female army have kidnapped Sharon and several others and prepare to massacre them in a ritualistic after party of sorts celebrating Hollywood violence by role-playing a live-violent exploitative film shoot of their own while murdering the hostages. Lee shows up to save the hostages and together with Rick and Cliff brutally defeat the Manson Family cult in a shoot out/kung-fu showdown. Sharon is saved and Rick and Cliff, despite their careers having not amounted to their ambitions, acknowledge it is the end of an era and that the Hollywood spirit will live on.

[quote]Between Phoenix (Joker) and DiCaprio (for Once Upon ...) who has better shot at winning Oscar for next year?

Girl, neither!

R193 I hope you are right.

Pitt is totally winning Oscar he's going to fraud himself to supporting category and win.

R185 Why the fuck would Tarantino need a beard? He is straight, you stupid cunt. Take your meds, you schizoid cunt.

I tell you why. The film has so many references in film knowledge in the first 2 hours that someone not a film fan would be clueless and even find it boring. So to prove they are all hardcore cinephiles the critics are all gonna asslick it. Kind of like The Emperor’s New Clothes. In fact, a lot of critics are just amateurs who can't find proper jobs and haven't really seen many films.

R196 Straight my ass.

Question:

Did you discuss with Polanski about dealing with tragedy in your film?

TARANTINO: No I didn’t.

Tarantino, DiCaprio, Pitt, and Robbie Talk ‘Once Upon a Time’, Manson, and More at Cannes

This man is an idiot.

Asked abt the film's depiction of violence towards women, Pitt says: "I don't see it as a rage against individuals, I see it as a rage against a loss of innocence...It was a sobering, dark look at the dark side of human nature & that pivotal moment was a real loss of innocence."

Many people on twitter said he's dumb.wtf

R196 hi Quentin.

tarantino is the Trump of movie making

That's not even close to being true. Uwe Boll's the Trump of movie making.

He’s a dope r201 but just parroting what he’s told to say.

The end sounds fucking dumb as shit. The “good guys” are murderers... hmmmmm

Wikipedia also says that DiCaprio's character is loosely inspired by Burt Reynolds and Pitt's by Reynolds' stuntman-turned-director BFF Hal Needham. The title references a section of the film where the only work DiCaprio can get is moving to Italy to star in spaghetti westerns.

TIGHT close-ups during the standing ovation.

Aaah hahaha r207 . How awful. The actors looked embarrassed. Guess Sony got it going. Sell that product!!!!

R207 OMFG! The Hollywood Elite are more fake and plastic than Madonna's face and cunt and teats and ass....

Those were some uncomfortably close shots... and they lingered for way too fucking long. Is this why we hear about these prolonged standing ovations from Cannes? Because they're shoving cameras in all the stars' faces?

r207 This comment is spot on:

[quote]Cameraman coming straight from a colonoscopy job.

[quote] the film's depiction of violence towards women

Killing crazy ass women about to butcher a pregnant woman and others? Anyone have a problem with that? I don't.

And, yes, Tarantino's wife is in the film.

The only thing that should matter to DL folks is that Lukas Haas is currently in Cannes.

How romantic.

Hell, I love Valley of the Dolls and have seen it many times and I STILL can't picture Sharon Tate in my mind.

She's forgettable, which made her perfect for that role.

[quote]Wikipedia also says that DiCaprio's character is loosely inspired by Burt Reynolds and Pitt's by Reynolds' stuntman-turned-director BFF Hal Needham. The title references a section of the film where the only work DiCaprio can get is moving to Italy to star in spaghetti westerns.

Reynolds was originally cast in a small but important part in the film but died before his scenes were scheduled to to be shot. Bruce Dern replaced him.

Of course he is R213. Leo never goes anywhere without his husband.

Wait Tarantino is gay? Why would he need a beard wife? He’s not a leading man.

Clint Eastwood made the spaghetti westerns, not Reynolds. They were Number 1 and 2 at the box office in the early 70's.

He’s a self hating gay in the closet.

R191 Debra Tate is not wrong about JLaw.

I can't imagine Tarantino with a boyfriend. That doesn't mean he's straight, of course.

Lawrence as Sharon Tate would have been a joke. The role requires a delicate beauty.

R217 Yes he is I don't know why he needs beard maybe it's necessary for winning best director Oscar?

Lawrence is fat and ugly but I wouldn't say Robbie delicate.

Why do you old queens obsess over this Sharon Tate bitch? Jennifer Lawrence and Margot Robbie are both ten times hotter than her and can act.

Jennifer Lawrence can't act and she's fat and ugly butch big boned and maculine.

If that's 1969, why is everyone's hair so short?

If it’s 1969 why are there “carrying my load” jokes.

The ending sounds bad :( “Re-writing history” was such a predictable direction for Tarantino to go in with this (especially after ”Inglorious” just a few years back...)

And it’s all the “Manson girls” at the ranch getting a bloody beatdown in the end? I’m fine with seeing that as they were all evil scum, but probably the *most* evil “character” in the Manson murders (besides Manson himself) was Tex Watson who did most of the murdering of victims and brutality himself with his own hands. He also was responsible for cutting the phone lines outside the Cielo Drive home before starting the murderous rampage...

Is Tarantino going to show Tex getting brutally murdered too (like he deserved)?

This revisionist history thing from Tarantino (especially when it comes to one of the only crimes to rock Hollywood to its core) seems very odd and self-serving and very much like a strange version of sucking up to Hollywood.

It’s like some weird Hollywood-ized version of “Atonement” without the self-awareness or introspection....

It sounds pointless.

BUMP!!

If 'Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood' is any good, then it is clear that Tarantino (a very unpleasant individual) has had a breakthrough; most of his movies are empty, self-important bores that go on forever.

Whoever had the bad business meeting with Tarantino upthread, please spill why he was an asshole and what horrible personality traits he displayed at the meeting!

Tarantino was dating Eli Roth don't know if he still is.

“Dating”, R233? I know they were buddies, but I honestly have never heard gay rumors about Tarantino. Foot fetish and drug rumors? Yes. Gay ones? Not so far...

Unless you have some specific gossip to share?

Good job, R104. Your simmering antisemitism is just barely visible this time. E for effort.

R234 is so invested! TRIGGERED!!!

completely agree with the poster about Charles tex watson. If you read everything about the Manson era it is really Watson who is the ultimate monster. He directly participated in the 5 killings at the tate residence and both of the La Bianca s. There were probably others. ALtho there have been various things in print and the media about who actually killed Sharon ane the others, it was Watson that delivered the fatal stabs and or gunshots. And he enjoyed himself while doing it. He joked that the tate victims were running around like chickens with their heads cut off. He also admited in his memoir that killing people doesnt effect him like other people. Charming. His photo ought to appear next to the dictionary definition of sociopath. In typical sociopathic fashion he maintains a very low profile in prison and mostly avoids the media. He is also of course a holy roller born again christian in prison. His one and only goal in life is to get parolled. God help us. He also managed to father 4 kids in prison thanks to communal visits and of couse they were all supported and raised with funds provided by the state welfare system. If retribution is part of the plot of this movie, it ought to be Watson that gets it,

I know next to nothing about this guy. I just looked him up and wikipedia says: "In high school he was an honor student and athlete, and worked as the editor on the school paper." Bizarre that with his background he would end up like this.

Hmmm, come to think of it, it is a bit odd how seldom Watson's role is discussed . Those with only a passing familiarity with the case might assume that the group consisted only of women directed by psycho Charlie. They were all terrible though.

JLaw wasn't up for the Tate role. She was probably being considered to play a Manson girl.

I bet she was up for Squeaky, which later went to Dakota Fanning.

R234 it is just one unhinged cunt who thinks everyone is gay.

Is Shorty Shea, who was a stuntman, part of any composite character? Has anybody said?

R240 JLaw does have that blank, wanton, slightly cruel look to her. She would have been good as one of the girls.

I want to see this film but I'm not sure if (SPOILER ALERT ) revisionist history is the best way to deal with this subject. I had hoped the film would confront the effects of the tragedy and really show how it changed Hollywood and ruined the spirit of that time. But if the spoilers I read are true, it's like it sidestepped reality completely. Then again, it might be cathartic to see the story as one wishes it would have ended. Margot was quite lovely in the trailer and I did like seeing a more grizzled Leo DiCaprio.

i cant believe this fucking hack used the Inglorious Basterds ending AGAIN in this. what a lazy cunt. and the producers green lit a movie that ends IN THE SAME WAY his old one ended?? no standards anymore.

[quote]Clint Eastwood made the spaghetti westerns, not Reynolds. They were Number T and 2 at the box office in the early 70's.

What part of "loosely inspired" do you not understand, r218? No one has said Tarentino made a documentary about 1960s/early 70s Hollywood. He mixes and conflates various Hollywood legends and stories from that time period as well as obviously throwing in a lot of obvious fiction.

But the relationship between the two male leads does seem very loosely suggestive of the relationship between Reynolds, who was the No. One Box Office star of the 1970s, and Hal Needham.

Oh wow Burt Reynolds and Hal Needham, I forgot about that. Really, what a rich, rich time, place and scene for QT to mine. Can't wait.

I bet he does a few recuts before release. And I do hope one is changes to that ending. I think the same thing as IB will make you feel at the end of the film like you wasted your time, as opposed to IB which was quite inventive and invigorating dare I say

I think Tex Watson’s key role in the murders (even the “Manson girls” have admitted that Tex did with “enthusiasm” and even overkill what some of them couldn’t or weren’t interested in doing at the murders sites—multiple murder sites at that. And didn’t Watson have military training?) has been downplayed in the media tellings of the murders because the press crafted this almost mythical narrative of “cult leader Charlie Manson and his hypnotic control over his murderous harem of hippie chicks”

The Tex Watson angle (that he was a more enthusiastic and aggressive murderer than even Charlie himself and basically “led” the scene and action at these murders) doesn’t fit with the “Charlie and his girls” storyline and is less sexy or whatever to the media retelling, so they ignore it.

It messes with the Manson as puppet master mystique maybe.

But by ignoring psycho former “all American” boy Tex Watson, they are ignoring a big part of the story and one of the main driving forces behind the horrific crimes that changed American culture and Hollywood in the late 60s....

Quentin Tarantino Might Make Once Upon A Time In Hollywood Even Longer

the filmmaker claimed he might stick a few things back in, noting that the full assembly cut of the film clocked in at 4 hours and 20 minutes.

‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’ Director Quentin Tarantino Angers Roman Polanski’s Wife By Not Consulting Her Husband

t Emmanuelle Seigner, Polanski’s wife, said in a French language post on Instagram that Tarantino was “using the tragic life of someone and then walking all over them” to tell a story.

Tate was murdered by members of the Manson family in 1969. Seigner said Tarantino should have spoken with Polanski about the film’s treatment of that event.

“I am just saying that it doesn’t bother them (in Hollywood) to make a film which takes Roman and his tragic story… while at the same time they have made him a pariah. And all without consulting him of course,” she wrote.

That interview reveals Scoot McNairy won’t be in the film unless Tarantino ends up putting his only scene back in (Malick gets more flack for this kind of thing, but Tarantino’s done it before with Cloris Leachman in Inglourious Basterds, Michael Jai-White in Kill Bill, and others I’m sure )

Wikipedia (which also has what appears to be a detailed plot summary) says Michael Madsen and Tim Roth have also been cut.

Tarantino's catching heat on Twitter now because Margot Robbie is third billed in this film and there are tons of people with the nerve to say or agree with the idea that he doesn't write good parts for women.

check this out

[quote]There were plenty of hard questions Quentin Tarantino could have faced as he greeted reporters for the first time following the Cannes premiere of “Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood.”

Did he change his approach to on-set safety after Uma Thurman alleged in February 2018 that the director pushed her to perform a “Kill Bill” stunt that left her permanently injured? Why did he cast Emile Hirsch, who pleaded guilty to assaulting a female executive in 2015, in his new film? Does he have any response to Rose McGowan’s claims, published in her 2018 memoir, that he repeatedly and publicly spoke about masturbating to her feet in the movie “Jawbreaker”?

In his latest film, why does Leonardo DiCaprio’s character idolize Roman Polanski, whose 1977 rape charge Tarantino once defended by deeming it “statutory rape,” saying the teenage victim willingly participated.

He snapped at someone at a press conference... but the movie was still well-received?! Where DO we draw the line?

But I’m chaaaaanged. I’m a maaaried maaaan!

R214 that's your problem, not hers

This is going to be a great film. So appreciate T's work.

Maybe if Polanski hadn’t been an iconic director like himself, Tarantino might have consulted him. He probably didn’t want anyone else with a strong vision influencing his own. Also, talking to Roman might have popped an even bigger can of worms than already is open.

Now Polanski hates him.

It's probably why Hollywood has never really touched Sharon Tate's story in any major film. That would require portraying Polanski in a negative light since he was a terrible husband to her. Roman is still admired by the film industry despite all his problems and yet Seigner wants to say they treat like a pariah. Sure, lady.

Seigner is gay Polanski a pedo.

Snubbed at Cannes! Not a thing for his masterpiece.

No Harvey Weinstein mmmmmmmmmmm.

Somebody told me this flick is the movie equivalent of Dallas - Pam's dream. Yikes.

He’s depressing and so are his movies.

Where are the disabled asian trans-womyn of colour???? This movie is LITERAL VIOLENCE!!!!

As a female Somalian midget who is transitioning into a Korean gay man of average size, I feel totally misrepresented and disrespected by the Hollywood community.

[quote]Does he have any response to Rose McGowan’s claims, published in her 2018 memoir, that he repeatedly and publicly spoke about masturbating to her feet in the movie “Jawbreaker”?

Well he certainly does own it doesn't he? In "Death Proof" he has a girl's feet on the dashboard during the credits and film, and now in new trailer he does it again. Must be a California thing or just he's just a simple pervert cause I grew up on Long Island and even at the beach I have never seen anyone driving around like that.

Palm Dog Award at Cannes: Brandy the pitbull wins for best performance by a canine in a film

R270 Wiki Feet

I bow down to my barefoot queen on her throne.

R272 Nope you are wrong he loves huge masculine feet like Jolie's, Maniston's etc

[quote] He also managed to father 4 kids in prison thanks to communal visits

r237, Hey Einstein! They're called 'conjugal visits' and they're forbidden in all California prisons. Again, you don't win anything for having an excess of opinions, especially on subjects about which you are [italic]completely ignorant[/italic]. Go read a fucking book, if you can.

Who is that, R273?

Yes, the foot thing is gross. I haven’t heard about Tarantino being a serial predator like Weinstein, but did he ever tell Harvey to knock it the fuck off and leave Uma alone?

It was upsetting to read that Brad Pitt knew (and was “upset” that Weinstein) allegedly harassed Gwyneth Paltrow and Uma Thurman told Quentin that Weinstein assaulted her (and other “powerful” men surely knew what Weinstein was up to (Damon and Affleck?) and *all* continued to work with/for Weinstein and many called him their “good friend”.

What kind of pussies are the men in Hollywood anyway? Or did they just all secretly agree with what Harvey was doing and did it themselves too when they got a chance?

It still amazes me that Weinstein was essentially an outsider in the biz originally (no connected parents to graft him in) and *nobody* in power tried to stop his own ascent to power when it was revealed what a corrupt asshole he was....

You’d think with Paltrow’s lifelong Spielberg connections that someone could have done something to stop Harvey or at least hinder his success in the business.

R273 Kristen Stewart

I do think Tarantino arrogant and a little pervy and disgusting but not a rapist or sexual assaulter he's far from being the worst person in Hollywood and I say that who hates his movies.

R276 The Brad Pitt thing is total fake story because Pitt worked with Weinstein after those alleged incidents and Pitt is a closet case he was never these women's bf/partner/husband.

Goop is also like Thurman one of Weinstein company's products she's not a victim she benefited so much from Weinstein and his movies she can't play the victim card.

Why Did Brad Pitt Do Two Harvey Weinstein Movies After Gwyneth Paltrow and Angelina Jolie Were Attacked?

I agree, R278; I don’t like his movies and I don’t think he’s the worst guy in the industry either. I don’t hate him. (I’m R276).

The industry itself is just *so* fucked up though and I knew Weinstein was bad but had no idea he was *so* corrupt that he was full on raping established actresses like Anabella Sciorra in her own home and then blackballing their careers because of it. He’s a full on criminal; it was like a horror movie hearing the full truth of what he did and how he fucked over Mira Sorvino and Ashley Judd’s careers too....

MILFtastic!

*Annabella Sciorra

Eva Green, Emily Watson and Samantha Morton to name a few who are really his victims and he hurt their careers but I just don't believe Thurman/Paltrow/Hayek etc . I don't believe any actress who starred in more than 1 Weinstein movie they owe their careers and awards to him and his company.

Brad Pitt comes off pathetic in that story and like someone with no backbone. What a pussy...

Did Jolie avoid working with Weinstein like she said, or was that a lie too?

I don’t know her filmography that well.

Sad but probably true, R284 :( Did any actress he wanted say “no” to Harvey and have their career survive?

(Do any actresses really have any power in Hollywood?)

R286 I don't know if Jolie's story is true or not because she's attention whore and has lied many times before but I think she only starred in Weinstein movie.

Pitt is delusional he thinks he was a teenager when 90210 was on Lol

Jolie's filmography is very weak except for two or 3 movies so I don't think she ever was a Harvey girl.

That’s a weird quote, R289, though I don’t doubt that both Pitt and DiCaprio probably suffer from severe forms of arrested development...

So sad Luke Perry is gone :(

I'm not familiar with Luke Perry's work which one of his movies you recommend?

I can’t speak for everybody, R292, but I especially liked Luke Perry in the first 2-3 seasons of “90210”, the films “Buffy the Vampire Slayer”, “8 Seconds”, and “Normal Life” (1996) with Ashley Judd.

“Normal Life” is pretty heartbreaking actually...

My guess is that some or most of the victims will actually have been killed by the time Pitt, DiCaprio, and the Bruce Lee character show up. This way, it makes them killing the Manson girls and Tex more palatable. But they save Sharon.

I believe one or all of the protagonists is dosed with LSD before the big fight, which results in some insane visuals.

Sounds like a shitty mess.

Isabelle Huppert despises Tarantino

Harvey and Lawrence Bender smiling in the crowd, Quentin's twin pillars.

Huppert and Tarantino couldn't agree on salary. Tarantino moved on to someone else. That's the entirety of their story.

Does anyone actually believe he's going to retire from directing after his next movie?

R275, I'm not the poster you addressed, but Tex Watson did father 4 children through conjugal visits. Those visits were ended in California in the 90s in part due to Sharon's mother's opposition.

R289, that is a strange quote. At first I thought it was DiCaprio because he would e been a teen in the 90s, but Pitt would have been in his 20s. He's older than Luke Perry.

I remember when E! did a True Hollywood Story episode about Sharon Tate/Manson murders- there was a clip of Sharon's mother angrily talking Tex having conjugal visits and they showed her confronting him at a hearing. I think she died soon after that.

That episode was pretty good. They interviewed several friends of Tate and Polanski. One was Steve McQueen's ex wife Neile Adams. Adams talked about after the murders happened, the celebs and their spouses were getting guard dogs, security fences, hiring bodyguards, and taking other measures for protection.

ANOTHER Tarantino revenge fantasy film. I’ve seen this movie without having seen this movie. It’s getting tedious.

I wonder if he'll ever do another modern-day, semi-realistic movie like Reservoir Dogs.

The Esquire article delves extensively into the idea of icons and idols people had growing up - especially filmmakers - and how that gave some kids solace and direction in life. When Pitt is referring to Perry as a teen idol he's talking about how the character Perry played was the kind of icon he and others had as teens. If you read anything about Perry it always refers to him as a teen idol. Not that Perry was a teenager but that the teenage boy mind idolized that rebellious heart throb type of character - you know as in 'icon". Not that Perry was an icon but that the character-type was iconic. I think Pitt knows how old he was when that show was on. I think Pitt knows his age is available to any breathing human.

Perhaps read the whole article and not just some out of context snippet. What was the point of that anyway?

are You paid by the word, r304?

Dig R304's pretzel logic. Pitt's publicist or over-invested fan?

If Tarantino does retire I want him to come out of retirement to do the ultimate Trump revenge film. Then he can rewrite history all he wants. Since I don't think we're going to get the history we really want from reality.

R305/R306, Do you want to discuss the film or not? Or are meaningless misconstrued soundbites more your cup of tea?

The film seems to be an interesting take on the fantasies we cull from our exposure to TV/film and how that shapes so much of our expectations in life - and how that can help us find direction and/or lead us down fruitless paths of disappointment and harm. Sorta like DL.

Discuss the film all you like, R308. Just don't twist yourself into knots defending Pitt's rather inane comment.

I've been wondering about the final scene historical revision. Why would Bruce Lee and Leo and Pitt be needed to "take down" all the cult in a massive Tarantino-esque brawl with blood and killing?

Manson was 5'1 and then there's Tex Watson. The rest were just young girls. How much battling will be needed lol?

R310 Manson and Tex weren't the only guys at the ranch.

They could battle the girls too.

The night of the Tate killings, Manson wasn't present. It was Tex, Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins, and Linda Kasabian. Linda did not take part in the murders, and the extent of Susan's violence is disputed (she probably held Sharon down while Tex stabbed her, and may have stabbed Sharon after she was dead). Take out Tex and Patricia, and there's not much fighting left to do.

Are the LaBianca's part of this movie?

I don't think they could be, since the LaBiancas were killed the night after the Tate killings, and this movie ends with the Tate killings.

R314 how do you know that?

You can read a synopsis of the film at Wikipedia, R315.

I think Emile Hirsch should have played Manson instead of Jay Sebring.

r316 well the whole movie is spoiled on that page. Cool.

Well now you know what the word “synopsis” means!

Yeah, I thought it was pretty evident in my post that you would be spoiled if you read the Wikipedia synopsis.

R319 R320 a synopsis doesn't necessarily have to give away the ending of the movie.

After reading the synopsis I wonder more about Margaret Qualley's character.

Don't be annoying, R321. My first post directly answered a question about the ENDING of the movie. I then directed that poster, perhaps you, to the Wikipedia synopsis. (By definition, a brief summary of something, an outline of the plot of a book, TV show, or movie.)

If you lack basic reading comprehension skills, that's not anyone's fault but yours. Now shoo.

SPOILER

The murderers never make it to 10050 Cielo- they are all taken out/killed at the home of Leo D. Tex is attacked - in the balls - by a bulldog; Atkins dies in a pool and Krenwinkel gets flamed. Sharon Tate and pals are all alive at the end. Utterly STUPID.

"If you eat pineapple it actually affects the taste of your sperm…for the better" Tarantino on The Graham Norton Show

He likes to drink that pineapple sperm, r325

R326 Yes right I don't why he beards is it because his fanbase are mostly male?

Tarantino lives to play with a large dildo Here Kurt Russell explains the closest ways of QT go to 1:30

How gore-y and violent and bloody is this movie? Qt loves violence but it seems only a small bloodbath at the end with the cult is the only killing.

True?

[quote] The rest were just young girls. How much battling will be needed lol?

They killed seven people. Beware of young girls.

The only ones killed are the murderers. Tate, etc. all alive afterward with zero sense applied.

Wow, what a great screenwriter Quentin is. Original and hip and a genius.

NOT.

Still can't wait to see it. LA in the late 60s will be a trip. I'm okay with Tarantino turning this into a fairy tale. Many people have had this fantasy wish. No worse than all the stupid comic book movies.

I read the synopsis on Wikipedia. It sounds tedious and guess what...he alters history again like Inglorious Basterds.

R334, I don't get why you such a problem with that? It's a movie, it's not a documentary and creative story telling is a great art form.

BUMP!!

I wanted to see Sharon go all Beatrix Kiddo from "Kill Bill" and slaughter the Manson gang.

Did anyone see the Esquire with pitt leo and qt on the cover? Incredible pictures of their photoshoot.

I think the movie poster is awful.

SPOILER

The end will be very bloody, and psychedelic.

The twist is that Pitt accidentally smokes an acid laced cigarette on the way to Spahn Ranch (where the Family have taken the "hostages" in a break with what happened in real life.)

We see the scene though Pitt's eyes, and people have compared it to a bloodbath featuring HR Puffinstuff. Given that Bruce Lee goes along with them, we get to see Bruce Lee murder Chuck Manson. Pretty cool.

Yawn

R340, you’re an asshole for posting the specific ending of the film, if indeed, your post is correct. So are all the others who gave away the ending.

Why not just allow for those of us who have been anticipating this film, find out for ourselves?

Only losers care about this movie and how it ends. Give us more spoilers please.

R343 that makes zero sense

The end of the movie sounds childish.

It looks the opening could be somewhat underwhelming.. I hope it holds true and doesn't have legs either. I wonder if an underwhelming box office for a pre-November release could hurt its Oscar chances ala "First Man" from last year? Tarantino is a huge asshole who has give too much of a pass for his bullshit.

r337 looks like this is pretty much what happens in the movie

The ads for the movie make it seem comedic. It's gonna BOMB.

It's not gonna bomb. People are gonna watch it, if only for the fact they're sick of superhero movies

💣.

$200,000,000.00 worldwide.

Most of T's movies are factually wrong. Why would anyone care to see this revenge gore crap.

Most of T's movies are factually wrong. Why would anyone care to see this revenge gore crap.

When good people are cartoonized into committing murders.

Not a good end.

He deserves to be laughed off the screen if he pulls this silly revisionist history "good guys kick ass" shit yet again.

[quote]Did anyone see the Esquire with pitt leo and qt on the cover? Incredible pictures of their photoshoot.

The pictures aren't anything special.

Wtf with the fucking neckerchief? Lololol

Tarantino looks like a ducking asshole.

I see he got a beard wife from Israel to appear normal and so we don’t focus on Weinstein. He poses with the ring like he’s a female. Punch and delete him.

Yasssssss! T needs to just duck right off back to hell.

His next film will the the R-Rated Star Trek.

I wish it would flop as karma for Tarantino's bullshit, but at best it's just going to disappointment.

Wonder if Tarantino still talks to Weinstein.

This sounds like a drag. I don’t want to think of dead Sharon. Or a cartoon of Sharon killing the Mansons.

Tarantino is a drag. This isn’t any exciting summer movie. This will do meh.

Brad is ten years older than Leo and looks better.

I can't wait to see this! I got my tickets for the first show at the Cinerama Dome, opening day.

QT drives me crazy sometimes, but I happy that I share this city with him. His saving of the New Beverly was a gift to us all. I first saw Pulp Fiction shortly after I moved to LA, and now here I am. I survived 25 years to see his ninth film.

A think like that.

*A THING like that, that should read.

Just came back from seeing it. It was alright. It really needs an editor. Too long with people nothing. As bad as the third season of Twin Peaks.

[quote]This sounds like a drag. I don’t want to think of dead Sharon. Or a cartoon of Sharon killing the Mansons.

Neither of those things happen.

The murders are a backdrop to the story, they aren't actually shown.

I adore S3 of Twin Peaks. I can't wait to see this!!!

Great new book CHAOS by gay writer Tom O'Niell - blows the old guard theories and it's even weirder than what we originally thought.

More like it just blows, r380

Over 5 million for Thursday previews. Performing above expectations.

Attention whore Debra Tate is praising the movie and Margot Robbie.

“She made me cry because she sounded just like Sharon,” Debra said of Robbie. “The tone in her voice was completely Sharon, and it just touched me so much that big tears [started falling]... I actually got to see my sister again...nearly 50 years later.”

Oh Deb...

Mary. She apparently got a check.

R375 I think so too. Even if this movie didn't happen, Debra would still be cashing in on the 50th anniversary interviews/specials. I don't think the other victims' families/relatives go to the media as much as Debra does. A nephew of Jay Sebring's attended parole hearings any time the Mansons came up for parole. When Susan Atkins was dying, the nephew did some interview with the media where he talked about being opposed to a compassionate release for Atkins. The families of Abigail Folger and Steve Parent have always stayed quiet. Then there was Rosemary Labianca's looney daughter who supported Tex Watson being released. I think she has stayed away from the media in recent years.

r376 That's because of Doris Tate. After Sharon's murder, Doris become a shell of her former self for a decade. Then one of the prosecutors of the case, Stephen Kay, told her about a petition for Leslie Van Houten's parole that was getting thousands of signatures. Even though Van Houten wasn't involved in the Tate murders, her release would set a precedent for the other members of the family to get paroled. It lit a fire in Doris and gave her a purpose again- fighting for victim's rights. She and Kay got her a piece in the National Enquirer (of all places) and they ended up getting some hundred thousands letters against the parole. She started appearing at every parole hearing for the killers and made herself visible in the media to make sure none of the convicted family got out. Once she died, Sharon's sister Patti took over. When Patti died, Debra decided to fulfill the role. Before Patti's death in 2000, Debra was never really in the public eye.

Wow -- it's really bad karma slamming a grieving family member, grief has no expiration date, for some it can last forever. Having your loved one get stabbed to death 16 times while eight months pregnant kind of gives you the right to make comments about it. WTF?

Oh give us a fucking break with your bullshit "bad karma" argument, r378. There IS no such thing--if there were, Donald Trump would certainly not currently be president of the USA.

Grief may have no expiration date, but that does not give anyone the right to spend the rest of your entire life carrying on about your grief, like Queen Victoria. Some people have used their grief over loved ones in order to garner cheap attention from the public (like Lisa Beamer) or to become the face of Nemesis and endow themselves publicly with righteousness (like the Tate women).

Fuck off.

R379 lives the rough trade. Mary!

r380 Your estrogen level is a bit low, better get your tank topped off. xoxoxo.

I can't wait to see this movie. I was a 19-year-old hippie and lived in Laurel Canyon with a bunch of other hippies when the murders happened. LA in the late sixties was a great time.

I'm not sure if there is another thread on this, but I'm conflicted on this movie. It was shot beautifully. Brad Pitt has become a fine daddy and looked great. It was a little slow in places, but it left me wanting to know more about the Tate murders. I'm going to to have to see it again.

Worldwide cume so far: $239,787,467.

A is for Autism starring R384

C is for Cunt starring R385.