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Gavin Newsom suspends Death Penalty in Calfornia

Thanks a lot, asshole. Voters already decided this issue and now we have more fodder for the GOP.

by Anonymousreply 5203/13/2019

Yea, how dare he not engage in state sanctioned murder himself.

by Anonymousreply 103/12/2019

"now we have more fodder for the GOP."

Yeah. As if the GOP needs an excuse to be assholes.

This whole "Oh noes! What will the Republicans think" bullshit is bullshit.

They're going to think whatever the Orange Turd tells them to think.

by Anonymousreply 203/12/2019

If it was applied fairly but it's not. Cops can't even get the right address half the time, let alone solve a crime. And then when the states block DNA tests and people from the Innocence project, it makes you wonder wtf we're thinking.

by Anonymousreply 303/12/2019

California has voted on this numerous times but Newsom has gone against the popular vote and this in liberal California.

by Anonymousreply 403/12/2019

Kill, [italic]kill, KILL!!![/italic]

by Anonymousreply 503/12/2019

Good for him!

by Anonymousreply 603/12/2019

The last time California did this, the Manson Family (and Sirhan Sirhan, for that matter) all got off the hook.

by Anonymousreply 703/12/2019

Another "progressive" fascist who believes he's been elected to save the masses from themselves.

by Anonymousreply 803/12/2019

R7 They died in jail, or are still serving their sentence, having been repeatedly denied parole. This is "off the hook"?

by Anonymousreply 903/12/2019

Gang leaders rejoice.

If anything we don’t execute people fast enough.

by Anonymousreply 1003/12/2019

"California has voted on this numerous times but Newsom has gone against the popular vote and this in liberal California."

Californians also voted against gay marriage, remember? We lost the "popular vote" because most people are stupid

by Anonymousreply 1103/12/2019

"If anything we don’t execute people fast enough."

You should move to Saudi Arabia, you would love it there.

by Anonymousreply 1203/12/2019

I think he'll let Leslie Van Houten go.

by Anonymousreply 1303/12/2019

The Einsteins in the G.O.P haven't figured out that it's not a deterrent, and has no effect on the crime rate.

Sad to see so many right-wingers here.

by Anonymousreply 1403/12/2019

R13 God I hope so.

And fuck the death penalty. It doesn't work, and it's completely unfair. Good for Gavin.

by Anonymousreply 1503/12/2019

Good for him.

The death penalty is barbaric and it doesn't belong in the modern world.

OP = psycho, get your head checked.

by Anonymousreply 1603/12/2019

Umm... There'll be another proposition to vote it back in.

by Anonymousreply 1703/12/2019

[quote]The death penalty is barbaric and it doesn't belong in the modern world.

Until it's one of R16's loved ones who are brutally and viciously murdered. Then it's fry the fucker!!

by Anonymousreply 1803/12/2019

It doesn't matter because even when California convicts got the death penalty, California almost never carried it out. California hasn't put anyone to death in ages, not even scumbags like Richard Ramirez who murdered a bunch of people and was able to die a natural death.

by Anonymousreply 1903/12/2019

[quote]and was able to die a natural death.

Behind bars.

by Anonymousreply 2003/12/2019

R17 He's only suspending it while he's in office. Only California voters can repeal the death penalty and every measure to do it has failed.

by Anonymousreply 2103/12/2019

R20 Never having to work a job, never having to pay rent, never having to put food on his table, etc....living off taxpayers and able to live out his life to its natural end unlike his many victims.

by Anonymousreply 2203/12/2019

Is he giving up hope of being president or does he think this will be like his marriage license decision as SF mayor and popular opinion will catch up to him? If he's doing this because he believes it to be the right thing, he's risen in my estimation, and not because I necessarily care about repealing the death penalty. I've long thought he's a cynical opportunist, and it would be nice to be proven wrong.

by Anonymousreply 2303/12/2019

Aside from the fact that it’s morally wrong for the State to execute someone, it also costs more to execute a person than it does to keep them in prison for life, so there is a practical benefit to the general public in suspending executions, as well.

by Anonymousreply 2403/12/2019

This is huge. I don't know what his motivation was, but it doesn't matter.

by Anonymousreply 2503/12/2019

I think the world leaders in capital punishment are the US, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and China. Most of our European allies have outlawed execution, and some will not extradite people to the US if they face the death penalty here.

by Anonymousreply 2603/12/2019

Mexico will also not extradite to countries seeking the death penalty.

by Anonymousreply 2703/12/2019

California's current death spiral has fuck-all to do with the GOP.

by Anonymousreply 2803/12/2019

Good for him.

by Anonymousreply 2903/12/2019

Love Gavin!

by Anonymousreply 3003/12/2019

Good for him.

by Anonymousreply 3103/12/2019

[quote]now we have more fodder for the GOP

Oh no! The GOP would never have said ANYTHING bad about Democrats anywhere until Gavin did this! Now we're doooomed!

by Anonymousreply 3203/13/2019

The trolls in this thread seem to be unaware that a lot of states never reinstated or quit using the death penalty--including some really red ones like North Dakota. Gavin's just following the lead of Oregon and Washington.

by Anonymousreply 3303/13/2019

Gavin's looking better now without the guido slicked back hair.

by Anonymousreply 3403/13/2019

This is why Trump will win California in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 3503/13/2019

Lol r35.

Anyway, fuck off OP. He is doing the right thing. There is no reason for the death penalty, life in prison is a suitably harsh penalty for the worst offenders. The state does not need to kill people, many innocent people have ended up on death row. You can't reverse it once you kill them.

by Anonymousreply 3603/13/2019

Please, Trump isn't winning CA and hopefully will have resigned by 2020.

by Anonymousreply 3703/13/2019

I’m so sick of worrying about what the republicans think.Do they spend half a second worrying about us? Let democrats act like democrats.Good for him!

by Anonymousreply 3803/13/2019

R38, it could mean a lot at the next election, especially since so many voters, including Democrats voted in favor of the Death Penalty.

by Anonymousreply 3903/13/2019

America isn't the EU. It's ancient Rome. The death penalty is still popular among our violent and vengeful populace.

Christianity isn't really New Testament in America.

by Anonymousreply 4003/13/2019

I wonder if the OP is the same person who posted about Joe Biden/Bernie Sanders. It’s funny that when it comes to politics, you have some people who ignore or know nothing about the past and then you have others who know the history but are just stuck in the past. Middle America has taken in about 75 seasons (literally) of law and order and CSI since the 1990s. The numbers are moving on the death penalty quickly. It’s not an issue the people vote on it anymore

by Anonymousreply 4103/13/2019

[quote] This is why Trump will win California in 2020.

Wow, are you delusional.

by Anonymousreply 4203/13/2019

Even the GOP is over the death penalty debate. We all know it doesn't deter crimes, is really expensive for states, and is racist in the way it's used.

Much of the GOP doesn't support it actively any more. The big conservative think tank that used to support the death penalty closed up shop a few years ago

by Anonymousreply 4303/13/2019

Pushed ignore on OP and half the thread disappeared. What a weirdo.

by Anonymousreply 4403/13/2019

This is really driving the good peace-loving Christians of America crazy.

by Anonymousreply 4503/13/2019

[quote]R38, it could mean a lot at the next election, especially since so many voters, including Democrats voted in favor of the Death Penalty

Oh, garbage. That's just nonsensical. Gavin Newsom isn't on the ballot in 2020 and this isn't an issue that drives national elections.

by Anonymousreply 4603/13/2019

Lethal injection has a high botch rate. Also, the necessary drugs are difficult for Departments of Correction to obtain since the manufacturers have put in place end user agreements forbidding the use of their drugs in executions.

by Anonymousreply 4703/13/2019

Good for him.

by Anonymousreply 4803/13/2019

The death penalty does not deter crime and it costs a lot more than just imprisoning people for life. There's no upside.

by Anonymousreply 4903/13/2019

"The death penalty is barbaric and it doesn't belong in the modern world."

Shut up, asshole. You want to talk "barbaric?" What those murderers did to their victims is the very definition of barbaric. You murderer-loving cunts are the scum of the earth.

by Anonymousreply 5003/13/2019

[QUOTE]And fuck the death penalty. It doesn't work

It doesn’t work because these motherfuckers get convicted and sit on death row for 20 years. And there’s too many states who don’t even practice it anymore.

by Anonymousreply 5103/13/2019

R47, I’m not in favor of the death penalty, but why don’t they use Fentanyl? Or just opium? It’s working so well on the outside.

by Anonymousreply 5203/13/2019
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