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Dionne Warwick on gay people: “… It’s the lifestyle you’ve chosen to live and that’s your choice”

Oh, HELL no!!

by Anonymousreply 5503/13/2019

[quote][bold]You say “preference” and “lifestyle,” and I know some people still use both of those words. But a lot of gay people think they were born this way, that it wasn’t a chosen lifestyle or a preference. Do you think a gay person could be born gay?[/bold]

[quote]Absolutely. It’s not only the way you’re born, it’s the lifestyle you’ve chosen to live and that’s your choice. I can’t define what it means or how it happens or why it happens or when it happens. It just is. I look at it that way.

Her reply makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 103/11/2019

Oh calm down, it's not as if she referred to a linebacker in a wig as "sir".

by Anonymousreply 203/11/2019

She’s elderly. It doesn’t matter what she thinks. Her niece and her grand niece overdosed and drowned in hotel bath tubs. She has bigger issues than gay people.

by Anonymousreply 303/11/2019

Jennifer Hudson...

by Anonymousreply 403/11/2019

She's 80 years old. Your not gonna change the way she thinks and she's not saying anything against gay people. If OP is fishing to cancel Dionne Warwick, your many years too late.

by Anonymousreply 503/11/2019

This old bull dagger is playing dumb.

by Anonymousreply 603/11/2019


She was out there standing up for gay people before anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 703/11/2019

R1 I agree, but she's clearly made an effort to step away from hatred and fear. Whether she didn't quite understand the distinction being made or deliberately side-stepped it, I think she deserves a little slack. She's been an ally for a long time, that's good enough for me.

by Anonymousreply 803/11/2019

Why wouldn’t everyone choose to be gay?

by Anonymousreply 903/11/2019

Dionne is right. Some people are born gay and some people choose to be gay.

by Anonymousreply 1003/11/2019

Is she save a little prayer for us?

by Anonymousreply 1103/11/2019

r8 Agreed. And honestly, I was expecting something way worse before I read what she had actually said.

by Anonymousreply 1203/11/2019

I’m not even a Warwick Stan, but basically It seems like she’s saying “gay people are born gay, and openly gay people live by choosing to accept their naturally-occurring orientation. As a straight person, I can’t pretend to understand all the complexities and nuance of the gay experience - the how’s and why’s etc., but it’s a part of the human condition. It just is a fact of life.”

Even the most PC hothouse flower would struggle to find anything offensive in that sentiment - thoughbi would put forward that it does seem like even generally supportive Black people of a certain age really struggle with a tin-eared approach to expressing themselves on anything to do with gay issues.

by Anonymousreply 1303/11/2019

There is nothing offensive about the comment. She agrees that gays are born that way. One could argue what she means by adding chosen lifestyle to that. It could be that she means whether you live openly as gay man or stay in the closet. That's most definitely a choice.

by Anonymousreply 1403/11/2019

[quote]but basically It seems like she’s saying “gay people are born gay, and openly gay people live by choosing to accept their naturally-occurring orientation. As a straight person, I can’t pretend to understand all the complexities and nuance of the gay experience - the how’s and why’s etc., but it’s a part of the human condition. It just is a fact of life.”

That’s how I read it, too. She’s just less verbose and/or articulate about it. She certainly doesn’t have anything against gay people. Her using her AIDS charity as a piggy bank is far, far more troubling to me.

by Anonymousreply 1503/11/2019

If it weren't for gays, she'd still be looking like Patrick Ewing in drag...

by Anonymousreply 1603/11/2019

I think she agrees that we are born this way and choose to live the lifestyle out in the open versus being closeted or sham marriages. It is refreshing to her seeing everything more open and honest.

Not seeing as how this is supposed to make her a villainess. She is 80 and witnessed the shift.

by Anonymousreply 1703/11/2019

She gave perfectly fine response.

by Anonymousreply 1803/11/2019

Maybe she is saying this.

Yes, you are born gay, but whether you live life as an out gay person is the choice. Remember this woman is a 100 years old. In her day, many, many gay men just chose to live their lives as straight men or did the whole confirmed bachelor thing. Those gay men, who lived their lives as gay men, especially back then, made a hard, but courageous choice. Talk to an 80 year old gay man and they will tell you what life was like.

And to some degree we all are making choices about our lives, even today. I could choose to marry some frau and knock her up and live a perfectly fine suburban life, but I chose to home on Monday night posting on DL.

by Anonymousreply 1903/11/2019

Her response was fine.

There's a Dionne Warwick troll on Datalounge that even makes fun of her verbosity.

Saying you're born that way and you've also chosen it was an acknowledgement that gay people are born gay and not everyone chooses to be open about themselves and act on it except for those who do.

by Anonymousreply 2003/11/2019

Even if she meant it in the outdated, less than PC way?

Bitch is 80. She's of her time.

I don't feel a need to cancel her over this.

by Anonymousreply 2103/11/2019

I think gays are so hung up on the word “choice.”

You don’t choose where your heart leads you, but you do choose whether to follow it, so to that extent, yes, it’s a choice.

by Anonymousreply 2203/11/2019

R3 Whitney was her cousin not her niece.

by Anonymousreply 2303/11/2019

The woman who sang on that's what friends are for..the AIDS song?? I find it hard to believe.

by Anonymousreply 2403/11/2019

Dionne’s been confused by her own choice to be a person of color... , she wasn’t born a dumb blonde... she’s struggled to achieve it.

by Anonymousreply 2503/11/2019


by Anonymousreply 2603/11/2019

[quote]She was out there standing up for gay people before anyone else.

No she was not. In fact she used up to line her own pockets during the AIDS crisis. Her "charity" as it turned out through investigation caught up with her on vacation in Brazil whereby she hid from the cameras after it was discovered 90% of the money donated went to her as salary and expenses. And I am not exaggerating the percentage.

by Anonymousreply 2703/11/2019

Dionne: “That’s What Friends Are For 🎶”

Elton: “Yeah.”

by Anonymousreply 2803/11/2019

[quote] Bitch is 80. She's of her time. I don't feel a need to cancel her over this.

Bitch was canceled by the gay community long before her golden diaper years.

by Anonymousreply 2903/11/2019

She’s not worse than Cissy and you know it.

by Anonymousreply 3003/11/2019

They say we choose our parents..

by Anonymousreply 3103/11/2019

R26-I got your number

by Anonymousreply 3203/11/2019

Fuck Y'all......Miss Dionne is a GODDESS.

by Anonymousreply 3303/11/2019

[QUOTE] Your not gonna change the way she thinks and she's not saying anything against gay people. If OP is fishing to cancel Dionne Warwick, your many years too late.

I suppose you're also too late to do anything about your shitty, barely literate grasp of grammar and spelling.

I embedded assistance in my response, if you're smart enough to figure it out. Which is doubtful.

by Anonymousreply 3403/11/2019

R32, call me

by Anonymousreply 3503/11/2019

I agree with the sentiment that part of being gay, is a "lifestyle". There are many men having sex with men, that would never say they are gay. Being gay is a highly charged political label, that, once accepted, through coming out, becomes a "lifestyle".

Said lifestyle requires courage and strength. Many in the closet, especially in the not-too-distant past, could never muster. That is why being gay is one facet of a person that should be celebrated.

by Anonymousreply 3603/11/2019

Gay is to homosexual what gender is to biological sex.

Not all men who sleep with men are gay. And some gay men sleep exclusively with women.

Just like not all women have vaginas, some women have penises.

by Anonymousreply 3703/11/2019

Her nostrils are even more cavernous than mine!

Is that a lifestyle she has chosen?

by Anonymousreply 3803/11/2019

Her sister molested Whitney. It's all a damn mess.

by Anonymousreply 3903/12/2019

What Dionne is saying is just a obfuscation of the old “Love the sinner. Hate the sin.” line that Christians have been spouting for years. She’s admitting that that yes, you are be born gay. That however doesn’t mean for her you aren’t still sinning. Christians believe that just being a descendant of Adam is enough to damn you to Hell so being born gay isn’t contradictory to their belief. The fact that you are a practicing homosexual and don’t fight it and resist your natural, sinful nature is a a choice and one for which you will be condemned.

Dionne isn’t dumb and she knew and said exactly what she meant.

by Anonymousreply 4003/12/2019

R40. I just want to understand your logical. So you are stating that Christians think people are born gay but choose to act on it. Your statement is inaccurate. Most chrisrians believe children are born with no sexuality but they become indoctrinated due to their environment. Miss Dionne opinion is hers and she does not speak for millions of Christians.

by Anonymousreply 4103/12/2019

R41, read it again, I said that Christians believe that children are born into original sin, or the sin of Adam. I did add that being born gay, or in their eyes a sinner, isn’t contradictory to their belief, which it is not. Christians believe simply being born human means you are corrupt and the nature of human existence is to be sinful. This is why the immaculate conception of Mary is so important. She had to be born without sin so that she could then be the mother of Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 4203/12/2019

Fuck that bitch! Did she choose to be born a female? Do straight people choose to be born heterosexual? NO, they don't. The only thing she chose was to end up a con artist old cunt.

That said, I've always assumed she was a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 4303/12/2019

Listen gays, I was high when this queen called me. I love you as you love me. Nothin more or less. That’s it.

by Anonymousreply 4403/12/2019

I don’t care what she says. I’d still like to eat her black cunt.

by Anonymousreply 4503/12/2019

Tomato tomahto. I think she’s tremendous. She’s a big bag of crazy like EVERYONE in show business and she brought attention to AIDS when it was in dire need to do so. And I fucking LOVE her music. I give her a pass on this 100%.

by Anonymousreply 4603/12/2019

Oh, STFU you little SJWs.

by Anonymousreply 4703/12/2019

I don’t see anything wrong with anything that she said. If you guys are gonna choose to take it up the poop chute then you’re just going to have to learn to live with comments you don’t like. Dionne is not standing next to your bed saying, “Take that big dick up your honey canal.” Not is Dionne looking over your shoulder while you are on Grinders saying, “Let that one come up your butt.”

by Anonymousreply 4803/12/2019

Is she not a big lezzie? She sure looks like one, esp if she had a flannel shirt.

by Anonymousreply 4903/12/2019

Technically, historically, etymologically, "Gay" is a political identity and political identities are choices.

Miss Warwick is correct. PLUS she also said people can ABSOLUTELY be born gay.

by Anonymousreply 5003/12/2019

Other than breeders being repugnant I can't imagine why someone would choose to be gay.

by Anonymousreply 5103/12/2019

As long as she doesnt try to make me over, she’s okay by me.

by Anonymousreply 5203/12/2019

I completely disavow the misunderstanding of the simple statement that a lifestyle is a lifestyle.

It's not like I said that BEING GAY was a choice. But, baby, all the rest is a choice. Boas, big pecs, coloratura husbears, brunch, poppers, caftans, screeching and superb facial hair.

Isn't being fabulous a choice for you?

Unlike for me, where being a brilliant songstress and iconic divalicious entertainer of historical importance is as much what I am as your being gay (or whatever your choice of terminology is) is for you.

Of course I don't count the customized dee-signer sexualisms of unique personhoods the kids are inventing for themselves today. How could I?

Now quit bothering me and focus on how many young immigrant women are going to be disappearing in Vegas soon, with JanJack moving in. You don't think she lost those appetites she developed with that billionaire ex in the desert, do you. Maybe somebody will make a movie of it. At least Michael only sniffed 'em, instead of snuffing them.

And I am not re-sponsible for the loonies here who happen to be my fans. They can't help it. But they could buy my latest albums. Some fans they are.

by Anonymousreply 5303/13/2019

[quote]In 1967, she also released “(Theme from) Valley of the Dolls” from the cult film of the same name after Judy Garland, originally set to sing the track, was fired.

by Anonymousreply 5403/13/2019

What an old bag

by Anonymousreply 5503/13/2019
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