Jussie Smollett - Can He Recover From This Mess?

I think he's pretty fucked. But I do agree with this tweet. Aside from the awfulness of doing this in the first place, I'm angry at how stupidly he did it: writing checks, planning via texts. He's a regular Chris Watts.

In 2009, everyone thought Chris Brown would never be heard from again. In 2019 he still tours the world and makes tons of money.

I think Jussie will still be able to get work, but he better start admitting to his lies, drug use and poor mental health.

He’s finished.

I’m seeing some vague sympathy for him after Trump’s comments. Compared to Trump, what he did is mild, I guess.

The public is pretty forgiving. Look at Mel Gibson and Chris Brown.

He'll be back.

He's a psychopath. As far as he's concerned, he's done nothing wrong, nothing. As far as he's concerned, it's the Nigerian dudes' fault for all of them getting caught, rather than his being the problem, in the first place.

Gibson and Brown were MUCH bigger stars though

No. He could have recovered if he had not done the Robin Roberts interview.

R9 I didn’t see that interview. Hmm

I found it.

He's good-looking so I would say he'll get another chance.

We need a body language expert to weigh in on his demeanor. He tells a good story, but is he acting?

R12 Ted Bundy was good looking and that didn’t help his defense.

I agree with R7

he'll NEVER admit he did anything wrong.

Interesting.

I think he's fucked. People who managed to come back like Mel Gibson and Chris Brown were basically A-list. Jussie was close to irrelevant.

No, Jussie has always been on thin ice with the black community because he's openly gay, and they're definitely not going to support him after this. he won't have any audience left.Even the people that swear R Kelly and OJ are innocent are not with him. Black men don't like that gay shit

Stfu R18. Stop going on racist stereotypes about the black community.

r16 line stinky

I started watching the first few minutes of the GMA interview and he had way too much detail in his story which tells me he's full of shit.

Okay I've only just joined in on this. I've read the most recent thread but I need a question answered gents...what happened to the Subway?

R19 Umm, have you been avoiding all the urban boards and the like? R18 is being 100% truthful and accurate.

I have seen almost 50 YouTube vids of straight black men clowning him for what he did and they are straight up ugly. They hate him.

Ugh. Only made it 8 minutes into his interview. What a bleating, self absorbed twat. Even if he hadn't done anything wrong, he has the kind of personality that makes me want to punch his face.

What was he thinking? What? I know we gone has asked this in multiple threads, but in what world would this plan somehow translate to a salary bump? I know it’s druggie thinking but this seems extra crazy.

We gone = everyone.

WTH autocorrect? That was an extra odd autocorrect.

It is NOT 2009 anymore, R2. Bill Cosby is in prison as we speak. Harvey Weinstein is facing the possibility. Others like Spacey/Lauer/CK/et. al. might never do any time, but at the very least, their careers are finished. R. Kelly is completely fucked at long last.

Chris Brown may have skated by so far (just like all those other guys did for too long), but even if he stays out of any future legal trouble, his career will still come to an end in short order. People won't quietly tolerate other artists doing collabs with scum like him anymore. That shit is OVAH.

Jussie Smollet's career will also end—because NO ONE disagrees that staging a made-up crime and lying to the cops about it is wrong. His story will continue being used on Fox News/other wingnut media forever as "proof" that racism and homophobia aren't "real" problems. The rest of the media will move on because it's not news anymore. One C-list actor with issues faking a hate crime for attention is a random, oddball story. It has nothing to do with broader systemic problems like Chris Brown's domestic abuse does.

No because he will never admit he orchestrated this hoax. If somehow he came to his senses and did admit it, he would have to do a super extraordinary apology tour that included all the groups targeted by his hoax (blacks, gays and Trump supporters) and possibly a trip to the White House to meet with Trump ...just doing an interview with Oprah isn't going to cut it.

I've got ten bucks that says he'll continue using virtue signaling. "I was mentally ill. How dare you indict me?"

He'll make a wonderful Billy Flynn in the third class touring company of CHICAGO.

Have we heard from Rev. Al Sharpton yet? I mean Jussie's whole story is soooooooooooo Tawana Brawley.

He should be finished.

Why does the truth bother you, R19?

I really wish Susan Dey would comment on this. Yet, she remains silent.

Chris Brown has a solo act. It's easier to come back when you're alone.

Smollett has to be hired in a production (that also needs to be insured and has to curry favor with advertisers who don't want boycotting calls from the public). Yes, he does some solo work on the side, but he's more of an actor in his career.

He's fucked.

Dinner theatre material.

I think he’s gone too. That Grey’s Anatomy actor who called the gay actor a f—— is gone.

Let’s take away racism, homophobia etc He was barely famous before so this is what is going to define him. He also (probably) sent a terrorist letter to his work making him uninsurable. So his acting career is likely over.

If he stays in Chicago he can get a job as a bar back at Progress Bar and work his way up to bartender. He'd make good tips.

R37 You beat me to it. He wasn't very famous until now and he's not going to even be very infamous a year from now.

The story isn't much more than one-note now and it'll be a footnote before much more time has passed.

Jussie we hardly knew ye.

I think suicide is his only option.

Interesting article.

Is there still such a thing as dinner theater? I thought it went the way of summer stock.

I'm sympathetic because I think he has mental health issues. So I'd say possibly he could make a comeback, if he gets his head straight and explains exactly how this happened. Perhaps, everyone deserves a second chance. No one got hurt, except himself.

Who is that cross eyed tranny in R1?

And if he was white with mental health issues, R43?

R43: No one got hurt? The resources of the Chicago Police Department - not to mention the Daily Mail - could have been deployed to better effect over the last couple of weeks if they weren't investigating an allegedly false claim.

So, yeah, I'd say the taxpaying citizens of Chicago - who have some real problems to deal with - got hurt.

He can escort. There's probably a lot of generous guys who would help him out for a little trade.

[quote] Is there still such a thing as dinner theater? I thought it went the way of summer stock.

We have a lot of them down here in the retirement villages.

He would look good in leather shorts.

R46, Jussie is not a dangerous person anything like the right wing terrorist Christopher Paul Hasson, who was arrested yesterday, the same day Jussie turned himself in. But of course Jussie gets all the attention as if he was the greater threat.

Jussie should practice cleaning his shower...with the soap dropped out of his hands. His prison mates will all want a crack at him.

The longer it goes on I would say no. If there is a trial and he is convicted, definitely no.

I have a feeling the comedians are going to have many laughs about his situation. As if... he didn’t realize he had a big rope around his neck. CooCoo!

I want to put him over my knee and give him a good spanking.

I still disrespect Mel Gibson and Chris Brown

This is an unusual one. If he sent the letter then I think a lot of actors are going to object to him getting a role on their shows, how do they know production isn’t going to be shutdown because he doesn’t like his salary and there’s crushed ibuprofen in the mail again.

[quote] The resources of the Chicago Police Department - not to mention the Daily Mail - could have been deployed to better effect over the last couple of weeks if they weren't investigating an allegedly false claim.

So true. We had to get by on 50% fewer stories about Meghan Markle over the past several weeks. It's been TORTURE. Thanks, JUSSIE.

No, he is done. He would have been lucky to have a career post-Empire, most actors don't get a second act. What producers would invest with him on a project?

put the son of a bitch in jail and throw away the key !!!!

We'll always have that impressive cock shot in the bathroom. He'll always have that to sell.

So now he has an undiagnosed drug problem...

The cast of Empire want him off the show so he was written out of the final two episodes. How can they not feel betrayed? No one will want to work with him after this. He brought all of this on himself and he'll have to accept the consequences.

I hope that Taraji kicked him in the balls and told him to get the fuck off the set. Its early in the year, but he’ll no doubt win DUMBASS of the year.

kind of expect he will vindictively Me Too poor Lee Daniels or some shit.

The interesting thing about this situation is everyone involved is African American. He can't cry discrimination if he's fired from the show because the creators are black. His fellow cast members are black. The men who allegedly attached him are black. The African American community feels deceived because they were on his side and now he's angered them. Being gay is secondary here. In other words, he's fucked.

Have we had the Larry King call ins yet? One of you who is better @ writing and funnier than I needs to get busy

Maybe his “drug problem” contributed to his years and years of anti-white bias. 🙄

At this point he'll be lucky if he gets cameos in cheapie direct-to-DVD movies that get buried on Netflix and Hulu. His career is finished. I think this is only the beginning. I believe his life will crumble apart more and more until his very untimely death, likely of an overdose (either intentional or unintentional). It's a shame. He could have had a good life and a decent career if it weren't for this.

Why isn’t Jussie labeled a racist?

He committed fraud for (in his delusional mind) personal gain and damaged the case of every abuse/assault victim of color and/or non-str8 orientation from here on out. This will be grist for the mills of all righty nutjobs.

Next, please.

Everyone forgets one really important point about this whole sorry affair: When the police told him they found two suspects, but (intentionally) did not say it was the two Nigerian/Americans, Jussie immediately said "that must be them" because he thought they were two randoms. When he found out it was the two brothers, he changed his tune immediately and said "I'm not sure". But he was completely ready to let two unknown people get arrested, tried and jailed for what easily would have been 20 years, all to get victim points and a few more dollars on his crappy show.

I just read this morning that Lee Daniels nephew was attacked for being gay earlier this year and he told the cast about the incident. Speculation is Jussie staged this thinking he would become some kind of hero to the LGBT community.

Jussie pissed of blacks and gays. You can piss off one group and recover, but you can't piss off both. Especially not in this current climate where everybody is on edge. And it was for a stupid reason. Jussie is done.

The word “stereotype” is officially dead as of now.

Jussie is so stupid. He won’t be back on Empire. Imagine what his next stunt will be once he has NO income.

He's a racist and a bigot. Why should he be given another chance? He's shown what he is, if he was anything but black he'd be crucified by now.

He should take the jailtime. At least he’ll get 3 free meals a day.

Thankfully some of the staff is intelligent and don't buy this bullshit. He done.

No one knew who he was before this. No real, harmful crime was committed. Now he's a household name. He's already way more (in)famous than he has any right to be.

No harmful crime was committed??

Is Jussie a top or a bottom?

Jussie, m'love....

You REALLY fucked up. shugah...

[quote]No real, harmful crime was committed.

[quote] No one got hurt, except himself.

I disagree. A few were hurt;

-The LGBTQ(RSTUV...) were hurt because incidents like this DO happen. When anyone pulls a stunt like this. or like when a waiter complained that a customer wrote "faggot" on the an unpaid bill which subsequently proved false, it hurts all of us. Should all of these incidents be taken separately? Yes! But, they aren't. Someone wrote up thread about how harmful this will be to gay Black men. It sure will be!

-The Chicago Police Department: Yep, they have their shit but there are those that are trying to clean it up. So, this has harmed that effort but it gives opportunity for the mess that was already there room to spread further.

Does anyone find how they worded that Jussie would not be in the last two episodes weird. It just seemed weird to me they said they would remove the character Jamal from the last two episodes. It is almost as if they were trying to draw a distinct difference between Jussie and Jamal.

R77 but no Subway

I doubt he will serve any time. He will write a recovery book and be on Ellen hawking it this time next year. Expect lotsa hugs and tears.

I think he's done. The only thing that I can imagine him doing is joining the staff of some acting school to teach.

Has Brychere commented yet?

LOL!!!

R89 love it

Hes also one of those "im gay but open to women" guys. He gave an interview where he said something about maybe one say he may love a woman.

He is a compulsive liar. Maybe he's not even gay?

What was he hoping to achieve anyway?

R92, maybe he's also not even black?

He's done. He wasn't that famous to begin with.

Leave it to wife beater Terrence howard to sing the boys praises......

I don't think he deserves jail time. He's ruined. That's enough.

And what about the next person that creates a hoax R97?

Everyone is salty at the moment but memories are short. And he's attractive. His lawyers will paint a sympathetic picture. He won't go to prison. People will want to give him a second chance. He'll be back to work in a year or so.

R99 He’s not attractive. And he is a sociopath. Compulsive liar. He’s done. Thank god. He is scum. No one is going to hire him.

Then nobody should go to jail for faking hate crimes.

I hope that Kevin Spacey’s career starts up again before this moron gets anymore TV work.

I hope they have more evidence then just the check.

Jussie is a god damned phoney! Fuck him. Jailtime and restitution. Pay back those hours investigating this hoax. Asshole.

That photo at R41 would make the Dalai Lama wanna punch this bitch's face.

[quote] I hope that Kevin Spacey’s career starts up again before this moron gets anymore TV work.

It is horrifying that anyone would think a comparison between Jussie and Spacey is justified. Spacey did not merely tell a lie. Spacey is a depraved monster, he molested boys and men causing lifelong psychic, emotional and economic trauma.

So has wife beater Terrance commented yet? Empire must be a toxic set with these nutjobs on there.

[quote] Spacey is a depraved monster, he molested boys and men causing lifelong psychic, emotional and economic trauma.

He did? I think you're reaching a bit.

Yes. The community will OJ him because Chicago police have corruptly handled so many police shootings of black men. Any jury will nullify charges.

It is a wrap for Jussie, especially since he was not really a star.

Please she is gay as the day is long-- people say this shit to sound more 'manly' and cool--- please.

R106. Unclutch your pearls. You can reach for your smelling salts when the two team up for a buddy pic on Netflix.

THe irony is he will soon be gay bashed and nobody will believe. him. The Boy who cried fucked in the ass by a Wolf!

I think he is on the Dana Plato Plan.

Theyr in discussion of how much prison time she will do. She wants to stay as long as possible, she known as a nympo for thug meat cumwads up in her...drippiin down her skinny ass legs..

You’re gross r115

R115 is clearly a rightwing troll. DLers don’t speak in such uncouth language.

Somewhere up in heaven, Sammy Davis Jr. is shedding a quiet tear at the realization that he is still America's favorite effeminate black Jew.

He made all his buddies in the liberal news media look like unprofessional hypocritical idiots.

They aren't going to lift a finger now to rehabilitate his image.

His hole will be stretched out wide! You go, Jussie!