An irreverent but true video on Alcoholics Anonymous.

shit dog!

There is virtually very little empathy in 12 step meetings. It's all about condemn, reprimand and mock.

Obsessive OP, could you be fucked, please, to provide a summary of these consecutive 8-minute videos?

I went to Al-Anon as a teenager. The group was pretty helpful. Psychoeducational. We had a leader with a license though. Many years later I went to a few meetings and was surprised at how weird the whole thing was. My local chapter was suddenly broke because somebody stole all the money from the safe - why weren't they putting the money in the bank? Then I found out that the group was also burgled less than a year before.

At least 3 guys tried to get in my pants in the first month. I didn't have sex with any of them.

My new Al-Anon group had drifters from NA and AA. Since it was an open meeting, nobody could tell these blowhards to leave or to shut up. They definitely dominated the conversation. When I was done with the group, I mentioned in a meeting that the addicts' dominating the group was pretty similar to how victims of addiction were talked over and ignored in their daily lives. Of course I was told this was inappropriate.

Then I went to a new group. It was suburban, but snobby. And again, it was clear that despite protocol, that two people ruled the roost at this meeting. The "discussion" always turned to them. And the newish rules about cross talk mean that there can't be any meaningful discussion of anything. Everything is just your opinion, your experience. Pure solipsism.

At this suburban meeting, I asked two people to sponsor me, and they both turned me down without an explanation, which is when I stopped going to the meetings. For some reason to this day, 9 years later, they still send me their update newsletters.