Mrs. Dan Savage ... can some DL bodybuilders weigh in here?

Why does he keep posting here? Does he like listening to people rag on him? Negative attention is better than no attention at all? He looks freakish.

Eww.

What a weird thing for an aging gay man to be into. I don't get it. Looking good and fit--sure. But that?

Hubby was on Maher's show last night, dressed in a tight, form fitting tee. The other male panelist/guest/host were all dressed in shirts and ties.

Gay perpetual adolescence is so endearing, no?

Yea, r4, I thought the same thing.

r4, Dan promoted his new cause on Bill Maher with the T-Shirt.

I don't care what he was promoting, R6. Savage and the Missus are always trying to look "hot" and end up looking like hot messes.

The nerdy looking guy from Bloomberg was infinitely hotter than Savage could ever hope to be and he wasn't every trying.

r4 / r7 I prefer hot messes like Dan and Terry, who are out there being "messy" gay rights activists, over an anonymous coward.

hydroxycut

he is obviously sufferring from ptsd from a damaged childhood............probably bullied endlessly and is overcompensating today. He looks awful and I cant stand his husband either. They are both the embodiment of the downside of the gay community.

Terry has mentioned in interviews that he was bullied as a kid.

If Dan is some kind of counselor, why doesn't he counsel his husband to get some help for his body dysmorphia?

At 50 it’s time to get over your childhood bullying. Not sure what the whole body OCD and drama dressing is about. Midlife crisis is supposed to end at some point with an acceptance of age and appreciation of other interests.

What contest is she prepping for? Tired Old Queens of Wilton Manor?

Gross vein ridden old bitch .

Nasty. He really doesn't look clean, down there, or anywhere else. I'm betting he smells.

he was hot about 10 years ago. now he just looks like another aging circuit queen

whatever, his 24 year old bf likes it. I like Dan even if he is a bit messy at times, but I have a pretty strong dislike for his husband and his bf

bf approves

it's like he has decided that it's not enough for gay sex to be meaningfull and fun and fulfilling for him personally but an act of rebellion to heteronormative culture and sonething to be displayed publicly

The pic at r20--wow. Desperately clinging to youth. Grisly.

How can you tell R22 ? Its so filtered Im surprised their faces are still visible.

Young, young, YOUNG!

R8 would rather be a fag than afraid

I hope their kid asks to have his identity changed. How fucking humiliating. You don't think he gets shit for these antics?

Agree R3 Miller looks horrible.

Has Dan Savage offered his opinion about Terry's new look in his column?

Savage did a bit where he described how much he hated Terry's new moustache, just wondering what he now thinks of this lumpy, leathery, vein-y mess.

I would guess he is using HGH from his skin and possibly Clenbuterol to keep his body fat low.

He needs to stop getting his HGH from TJ, because whatever he is buying isn't working. His skin looks tragic.

ooohhhh!!! he has penises all over his clothes! how subversive and non-heteronormative! the queer hero we have been waiting for!

R31 Finally! Someone who understands me!

Kill it with fire

Wonder what his 'roid withdrawals are going to be like. Yikes!

Ghastly. I wouldn't fuck him with Dan's dick.

He has gotten 2, 629 likes on Instagram with people leaving him comments about how hot he looks. When did really big veins become a "thing"?

Now that I think about it, Dan Savage's opinion doesn't count. He still can't drive and relies on Terry to drive him everywhere, so it's not like he's going to leave Miller. Nope, Savage is stuck with hideous, hulking monster.

Well at least he left something to the imagination.

That is seriously disgusting. Gross.

Why the fuck can't Dan drive? Also, in the day of Uber and Lyft and I'm sure Dan could afford to hire a driver for longer hauls if he wanted, why does he rely on Terry? Jesus they are both totally fucked up, but Dan comes off looking worse, frankly.

^^Well, he has to give him something to do.

R41 I thought that's what Terry's bf, Tom, was for

Dan is a writer, I do not think he has any actual counseling certification.

His comments about intergenerational sex in The Stranger still squick me out.

They are both freaks. How long until Terry has a heart attack or stroke at this rate?

It rhymes with “Bristol Death”.

I fucking love Terry.

I want to do him and I hope I look that good when I reach his age.

Was Terry "plainer" before and maybe the less 'famous" out of this couple and is experiencing "from duckling to swan" syndrome? I haven't seen that type of shredding that isn't a result of "interfering with nature" aside of doing exercise and not being a glutton.

No one knows why Dan Savage still does not know how to drive.

Yes, Terry was plainer in the past.

He was really cute when he did his "reveal" however many years ago. Dan got a ton of attention for having such a hot husband. He looked sort of...wholesome...with a lovely naturally worked out body. Total fucking opposite from the mess he is now.

so... is Dan dating Tom, too?

Is The Attic still open for business?

[quote]Hubby was on Maher's show last night, dressed in a tight, form fitting tee. The other male panelist/guest/host were all dressed in shirts and ties. Gay perpetual adolescence is so endearing, no?

OMG that was not a tight form fitting tee, that's a normal size fit for anyone who buys for their size. The oversized tee died out decades ago you silly old queens. Pretentious gays living in an age bubble is endearing, no?

He's on: Test. Probably trt doses. A dry compound: perhaps Mast, Tren if he's on cycle (trying to grow bigger), maybe Bold or Primo, but he looks "full" and sculpted (meaning his muscles are retaining glycogen stores) so I'm willing to bet Mast.

Agree with R52. This pic suggests even more. And probably a diuretic. Even when he shouldn’t be taking it.

I thought Mugler had been a sufficient morality lesson years ago.

I still like Terry's nipples a lot.

r51, I think the point was that all the other panelists and the host were dressed like grownups.

I would imagine some type of PReP and other anti-virals from the looks of things.

Flintstones vitamins

steroids dissolves all the skin fat to get that muscle definition. It looks awful when you go to extremes

Does not what she's talking about ^

A DL specialty

You are beautiful, keep it up Terry!

However, I am worried about the chemicals.

Go back to natural Terry.

Terry, you are a Sigma male therefore, you will go your own way.

But droids are not your friend. Peace to you both. Xoxo

Terry is a classic Sigma male who unobtrusively dominates the relationship. Dan, believe it or not, is the submissive or 'beta' partner.

It works well for them. Best of luck to you guys.

OP's photo reminds me: are they ever going to bring back that special beef jerky at Trader Joe's?

r59 you don't know what you're talking about, dear.

Def HGH look at his face - HGH gives you cromag forehead.

R61 That would be, "peace to all three of you" Incredibly privileged and heteronormative of you to refer to them being in a two person relationship when they're obviously not

Ewww...

He looks like really self-absorbed beef jerky!

But you don't single out the so many heerosexual compeitive male bodybuilders over 45 who live their lives obsessed with their looks. They outnumber gay muscle men by far. R4

What is this need to pathologise gay men?

R69 One could argue that he gets extra scrutiny as a cofounder of a nationwide campaign for LGBT youth. And for being married to a celebrity.

And for dressing like a 20-year-old club kid from a small town.

Nailed it R71, lol.

There is nothing sexier than a guy completely covered in veins.

It’s great to see the body’s inner workings on the outside, like those anatomical models that have a top you can lift off and all the guts are showing. Leaving things to the imagination is for other people that are not as cool as me.

R69 In a word: jealousy

R74 Doubt it.

T-shirts and singlets should not be worn beyond 40 for a man. Maybe at home and the yard, but otherwise, no.

The arms look like veiny over circumcised penii.

Heterosexual bodybuilder, but it is only gay men who are pathologised.

[quote]T-shirts and singlets should not be worn beyond 40 for a man.

Are you 89 years old and obsessed with the antique fashion rules of you long dead mother r76?

I seriously wonder if anyone, anywhere finds Mrs. Savage desireable or sexy? 10 years ago he was just barely do-able. Well, if it makes him happy I guess there’s no harm. Question for any DL docs- is there anything detrimental to his health from the diet and supplements required to look this way?

Mrs. Dan goes for a walk in his Seattle neighborhood this weekend.

At this point he's basically a human Sasha Baron Cohen character.

Dumb steroid soaked attention whore.

I suppose he looks better than that Beefy Noodles dude who injects silicone into his monster balls. But not by much.

I doubt he has a clue how awful he looks to normal people. Whenever I see that I think: meth, steroids, HIV. Sorry, but that is the damn truth.

[quote]I seriously wonder if anyone, anywhere finds Mrs. Savage desireable or sexy?

I do. To this day I just don't understand the DL hatred of him. He looks GREAT! Especially for his age!

I just chalk the hatred up to the caftan girls being annoyed and jealous because they can't purchase the latest earrings from HSN due to their limited monthly check.

Terry is a naturally attractive man and if he were to forgo whatever pharmaceuticals are giving him those disgusting popped veins and scaly skin, he would still look great. In fact I think he once had the kind of classic corn-fed looks that would have kept him looking sexy well into his later years. But he's ruined all that, and if he keeps on his current path, he's going to look absolutely horrific by his early 50s.

His taste in clothes I can forgive, because he clearly enjoys outrageous couture, so why not?

[quote]Terry is a naturally attractive man and if he were to forgo whatever pharmaceuticals are giving him those disgusting popped veins

Actually, that's achieved through water deprivation. Bodybuilders do that before a show or a picture shoot. You don't like the look. But, there are many others who do.

Wait. He's not in his early 50's yet?

FYI:

[quote]By drinking a higher amount of water you trick your body into flushing more when you cut back, which results in your muscles looking tighter. The combined effects of carb-loading, salt avoidance, and water depletion will suck as much fluid into the muscle tissue as possible.

He looks every day of 60.

Aww... Terry's bf is making Instragram stories about how much they love each other

Dan's writing God-awful opinion pieces in the NYT. Using this logic he should release dick pics of himself, Terry and Tom. Also how ridiculous to say that everyone should do it, except him cause he's not famous enough. Oh, and why not mention the Tumblr page? It seems relevant

He's entering Madonna territory.

Ageing is especially hard for people who have lived superficial lives.

R93 that's what is weird. He has raised a child and started a widely acclaimed advocacy org. Then seemed to have some bdsm/queer liberation midlife crisis

"Then seemed to have some bdsm/queer liberation midlife crisis."

Well put.

Dan's made it pretty clear he doesn't want a fat man, so he's probably the one pressuring Terry to roid himself up and get bigger as he started getting older and saggier. So he knows Dan is constantly looking at his waistline and he's the less successful one in the marriage, so he tried to break out of that by becoming this aged manwhore.

So Dan is sizephobic? That's as violent as rape and racism. How does he still have a career and an intact reputation?

The OPs picture look like something lying in a tray in a butcher-shop window.

R98: Are you saying he needs to be stamped with an expiration date?

[quote] You don't like the look. But, there are many others who do.

I love that look!!!

Terry dresses like an extremely low-rent version of David Rose in "Schitt's Week" (except with more color).

[quote] OMG that was not a tight form fitting tee, that's a normal size fit for anyone who buys for their size.

R101 LMAO! spot on!

What is the point of all the effort?

Does it make the man more alluring?

Does one masturbate into it? Or have a conversation?

He makes me sad.

Dan has talked about being overly casual. He lives in Seattle, a city known to be extremely casual. He's also never worked anywhere except the Seattle Weekly. It's probably a very casual work place. I know someone who worked at The Bay Guardian and people came to work in pajamas and wetsuits. He's like those straight guys who wear sports branded clothing everywhere or the women who wear yoga pants everywhere. We live in a world full of slobs. I wish it weren't so, but I don't think it's proof of arrested development.

Dan, Terry and the twunk bf should start an OnlyFans page where they take turns fisting each other. It's what all the sex positive people are doing!

Oh please r106. He started wearing tight t-shirts that showed off his biceps as soon as he and Terry hit their 40s and started working out and seeing results. Terry, of course, went the roids route to get even bigger, whereas I think Dan just likes having some muscle.

Dan's commented on his show MANY times about how he thinks if you're fat you should just go on a diet and lose weight because no one wants to date you otherwise.

R107 is Dan involved with Tom? It looks like Terry is dating Tom but I don't think Dan is romantically involved with Tom

Who said anything about romance?

Terry is a dumb attention whore and Dan is just an asshole who thinks casual sex fixes everything.

R110 ok. I'm not convinced all three have sex together. I think Tom and Terry's thing is seperate even though he lives with them

So Dan likes to watch? I think it's one big dogpile

Dan has a problem with fat people? He needs to get over it and make love to fat people.

He finds them disgusting.

I like guys to be fit, but that veiny, 0% body fat look is just gross.

Hard pass.

[quote]Dan has a problem with fat people? He needs to get over it and make love to fat people.

[quote]He finds them disgusting.

Ahhhh.... so THAT'S why he is so hated her on Datalounge.

r117 have you gained weight?

Dan doesn't just have a problem with fat people, he seems to have a problem with anyone who isn't what he finds attractive.

Fatties are the WORST

I applaud Dan for having standards

I hope you get sat on by a fat person, r120

You're a fattie aren't you R121

I work out daily and every hour I say to myself "you can't eat that".....over and over and over.

You can do the same.

Savage uses roids too, but still looks older than his supposed age of 54...

I think he’s tremendous!

Savage is much hotter than the other one, who looks like stale trade.

Daddies don't cradle their mugs.

This will be sad when senility hits.

sad, he hot w/o the roid mess, he mus know they kill the liver and heart, theyr like speed, bummer to get off of, …. he mus be off the deep end. thought dan was more smart than to let terry go that way......is dan ok?

R128 Can you imagine living with Terry? He seems ridiculously high maintenance. I'm sure Dan is happy that he stays busy posing naked and having a much much younger boyfriend to occupy his time and leave Dan alone to write

Mmmmm my pussy is dripping

R127 Who cares about senility when you've got great tits?

I've always found Dan Savage to be a smug jerk. Also, I can't stand his lisp. If you're going to be in public speaking, go to a fucking speech therapist and correct your speech impediment! Those who feel already "too special" to need to fix anything are always monsters. See: Barbara Walters and Rudy Giuliani for example.

Does Dan still do drag? Or did he just use that as a gimmick early in his career then drop it and become butch when he no longer needed its shock value.

Cute

I'm sorry, but this is pretty desperate behavior.

she's hideous

He has over done the muscle building obviously but you bitches would still do him and you know it.

Leather daddy or leather MARY!?

Nice bod, but the Narcissistic Personality Disorder ruins the look for me.

I think it's time he lets us all see his porn work in the purportedly destroyed Boat Daddy.

R129 My ex-husband frequently embarrassed me too. But what can I do? I don't own him.

lucky fukker, gets to suk on that hot cunt of his blonde tom Finlandia lover.

Shredded Grampa!

Grandpa's piles are itching.

I am SERIOUS, y'all!

ide trade my poodle to suk on the voluptuous tittys and floppy asshole of miss terry....YOWZA

He’s so embarrassing. I guess Dan was secretly hoping Terry would be dead by now. You just know Terry’s not the type to go away easily....maybe Dan could slip some antifreeze in Terry’s protein shakes.

So much jealousy here on this thread. Why don't many of you get a life, (YOUR OWN LIFE) rather than criticizing someone else's and the choices/decisions that they have made for themselves. He's LIVING his life and dreams while many of you waste yours clacking on a keyboard and eating bon-bons.

Terry, call me back bb, I need to eat the inner lining of ur anus really bad, for its soft and famous, k?

60 will be rough for Terry.

When mutton poses as lamb, mutton would do well not to pose next to lamb.

in above pic, is that terry's adopted son?

No it isn't

R150, I want to slap the gay out of that tongue.

I actually think Terry looks really hot - although he could do with a couple of % higher bodyfat to lose that 'extreme' ripped look, it would actually make him look better. And his nipples ARE sensational (nice dick too).

However he just comes across as such a desperate attention whore and that is really NOT hot. I would love to know what his son thinks of his dad flashing his tits 'n' ass all over instagram.

I do really like Dan Savage - listened to his podcast for years now and I almost always agree with what he says. However I do find it annoying that he never seems to acknowledge his 'thruple' relationship, even when it's pertinent to the calls on SavageLove. I feel like perhaps he's not into it as much as Terry is.

R154 I don't think they are a throuple. Terry and Tom have both acknowledged that Tom is his BF. But never include Dan in that. Terry and Dan have a monogamish marriage plus Terry has a live in BF. I also find Dan's refusal to talk about it irratating. Especially because he always tells others to "come out" as poly.

His teats are just as real as Christina Hendricks dammit.

Him and danny boy are the most awesome couple in Gaytown….

Elegance has a name!

Now he thinks he's Christ?

the best guess I can come up with is that he is using play-dough to get the look he has acquired.

He drinks 6 raw eggs and half a pint of bull semen each morning. He also injects himself with HGH before bed each night.

He eats rainbows and unicorns.

Wonder if his adopted son will comment on Insta at R158.

What happens in the next stage of a midlife crisis of such proportions?

Are they actually legally married? Sometimes people say they are when they are not. So T stays for the attention of being the Mrs. and Dan keeps him around cuz he is cheap? Does Tomboy pay rent in cash or just with his body?

I'm sure Tomboy just pays rent with his ass.

Dan Savage is snotty, judgemental and a bully. In the documentary-Do I Sound Gay?- he said that any gay male that's not attracted to effeminate gay males is misogynistic.

Every leather daddy needs a tasteful tote/murse!

It looks like Dan's tanktop at OP was designed by Vonda and Shonda from "Super Showcase" on SNL

I like me a muscular man, but the "ripped beef jerkey" look is a bit...much.

Terry must be a gaping sinkhole of attention seeking neediness, I wouldn't be surprised if Dan hooked him up with that equally narcissistic twunk just to get away Terry away from him.

Terry's teeth are nasty looking. He seriously needs braces.

He has mule teeth.

The typical DL'er. Especially posting on this thread...

Ol' Jerky Nips is back ...

watch out boys. Terry and his BF are in Palm Springs and posting thirst trap photos on Insta

I want to lick every inch of Terry's body.

Too many veins.

When I think "leather daddy," I think "Bea Arthur goes to International Male"

I'm afraid it's quite obvious that, to resort to a DLism, a lot of posters on this thread type fat.

Whatever Terry's neediness, in a world where far too many people let themselves go to seed after 50 or even 40, his work (and it's hard, hard work) to stay in shape is to be applauded. He and Dan look good in t-shirts? Great. I'm sure they enjoy a lot more hot sex than those bagging them.

I doubt Terry enjoys anything R178 I imagine the constant desperate attempts to cling to his fading youth and beauty are pretty much all consuming now.

"Whatever Terry's neediness, in a world where far too many people let themselves go to seed after 50 or even 40, his work (and it's hard, hard work) to stay in shape is to be applauded."

It's not like he's got anything else to do with his time. He doesn't have a fucking job (other than being a paid shill for shit on Instagram), hubby makes good money, baby boy has fled the coop and how many times can you redecorate the house before it gets boring. He's like some wealthy suburban haus frau: nothing but time on his hands.

R180 I heard Dan on an interview recently saying their son still lives with them. I think Terry's Bf lives there too

The things their poor son must see and hear living in that house.

Hysterical frau ^

Dumb Fuck ^

Dora Dumbfuck ^

He's spending the weekend with pornstars at a porn event

It's a sobering moment when one's trainer goes to seed. But life moves on!

trentons hot as fuk, u nuts?

I would suk Millers asshole and tits off any damn day.

Terry hanging out with a human garbage bag like Trenton Ducati is yet more proof he's a dumb slut.

Dora Dumbfuck ^

jus by looks, ducati is hawt as fuk

most of the beautys are horrid inside, yes

R191 Don't troll because you're obviously no good at it. Depending on who you ask and believe Trenton may be an actual monster.

I've never understood the hate for Dan Savage. Reminds me of our current climate of the extreme left hating the left (instead of focusing on all the fuckfaces on the right).

dan and his hubby miller are divine fun guys.

jealousy is a hideous animal.

This is 500x more attractive than his usual You're So Vain, You're So Veiny look.

Oh hey look, he can wear clothes.

How do we tell ms Miller to stay off social media? No one wants to see that. I’m guessing the followers are there to ridicule. Maybe suicide is an option🤞

jealous ones: he is where he is cause so many men want to eat him....

I thought Terry was super hot when he first started his midlife crisis, but now he looks gross.

love is love, i guess

There's nothing more cringy than a parent having a public midlife crisis

dam, ide eat his tits and asshole till the clouds cum rollin by

they say he hella fun in public toilets, buck nekkid, takes all mouths and cocks

Insane ^

Or Anonymous In Kansas City has returned

I could care less bout his hemmy roids, his body is hot and ide feast on it all nite.

mind ur own business jealous haters....u look bittter

R206 I support Terry, and the hate against him, from bitter unfuckable old queens, is hilarious and tragic. But it doesn’t blind me to the fact that Terry frequently looks ridiculous and cringy.

AIKC...so glad your back, spreading your butt corn craziness around DL. It’s obvious that you have gone off your meds...don’t kill any of your patients

[quote]watch out boys. Terry and his BF are in Palm Springs and posting thirst trap photos on Insta

Isn't Terry afraid he'll be confused with Tom Bianchi if he goes there....because he IS going there....soon.

hanging with all the porn boys in palm springs

^ He looks great!

We all know where this is headed, He's gonna do porn.

his tits and ass still command top dollar. awesome to fuk

If he's hanging out with Trenton Ducati it will be bareback porn probably with some message about how if you don't bareback with poz guys you're a terrible person.

rude

where how do I hire terry?

Would be an honor to rim ur dirt ass out sir....I do anything u demand.

Someone’s been skipping leg day.

Even with those muscles she still looks nellier than a fruitcake.

A completely candid shot — I wonder if Terry even knew there was a camera in the room.

Those chicken legs are just bizarre. Yuck.

Gross, has he starting inflating his nuts like those creepy bear guys that were big news a few months ago?

His giant nipples make my pussy excitation yesss mommy

more titty and hole pix plz sir, more.

I must admit, he is a bit handsome, and bold for being so out there sexually and hot.

His face is changing from the steroids, you can see it.

Love the tits, im all about that, bigger nips the better.

New to this individual. What does he do for a living? Does he had a regular job to go to?

I’m worried that this young man won’t have earned all his social security quarters at retirement.

he can retire, he is very well off from his....clients.

That isn’t just hgh . Lots of normal people use hgh and don’t look like freaks . He’s clearly using anabolic steroids and testosterone . hgh probably too , but that’s not why he looks like that . In massive doses hgh gives the cro magnon look but that’s not what he’s got going on . He’s aging and destroying his body and it’s sad .

why is his skin business booming then?

lol @ r227

(But in case you’re serenely unaware, “young” Terry is 48.)

He has good muscle tone for his age. But it just proves that sexual attraction is based on many elements.

Terry's self-awareness is a bit of a buzz kill.

Terry in 2011:

I'll give him this, his kept boy is a hot piece of ass.

Terry went to the symphony in this.

Does Tom of Finland have a spring Bea Arthur collection now?

He's just a few years away from entering his Advanced Style phase.

He looks like beef jerky left out in the sun.

Terry in five years?

posing

I guess it is an addiction to, in addition to the steroids, etc, an addiction to attention and some sort of inner need to know that people are noticing and commenting on him. Well, Marion, if that is the kind of attention you wanted, you sure got some..

So arrogant and vain and so deluded.

It’s sad to see someone who can’t handle aging.

TrimSpa - definitely TrimSpa.

[quote]It’s sad to see someone who can’t handle aging.

I think it is even sadder to see how so many give up after a certain age, and yet, criticize those who want to live their life and be the best that they can be at any age.

Without the support of his husband, would Terry have become a webcam sex worker?

Nothing says "leather daddy" like a Tom of Finland murse

R244 There are men who age well without looking like a funhouse mirror

[quote][R244] There are men who age well without looking like a funhouse mirror

You see? The operative word is FUN. A plant ages well.

For people here over 40 and hating, may I ask why you don't work out?

R249 - I’m over 40 and work out. I just don’t take all the supplements, testosterone, HGH. There’s a difference in being fit and healthy and then looking like this bulging, veiny nitwit crying for attention.

Do you think he's dying his body hair yet?

I bet he smokes a lot of pot.

He's got a great bod. But it's pics like this that make you want to punch him in the face.

That's actually pretty mild for him, R253.

Not getting the logic of anyone being critical of his narcissism must come from someone who "doesn't work out".

Why, R253? What is it about that image that you don't like?

"For people here over 40 and hating, may I ask why you don't work out?"

What Mrs. Savage does has nothing to do with health, R249. Like so many other roided out idiots out there, there's a very real and distinct possibly the roid usage, yoyo dieting, and deliberate liquid deprivation may be causing him irreparable harm, maybe even leading to premature death.

Just because someone "looks good" in your eyes and being an extremely photogenic Instaho, R249, doesn't automatically make them hale healthy. Bitches be droppin' like flies.

It's because he looks stunted. Peter Pan-ish.

You would think at his age, having raised a child, that his pursuits in life would be a bit more elevated.

[quote]You would think at his age, having raised a child, that his pursuits in life would be a bit more elevated.

Maybe, it gas always been a dream of his to be a fashion model? I mean... President Daddy Bush was skydiving well into his 80's and 90's. There are a lot of seniors who are taking ballet classes and performing. Older men have had dreams of becoming porn stars--and are doing that. On and on....

They're actively living their lives. What should they be doing? Only going to libraries and museums?

"gas" s/b "has"

R258 - I hear ya. Terry's living out loud. But he's painted himself into a corner by making sexual attractiveness his defining quality.

If only he did try skydiving or ballet. That would at least give him a skill-based talent.

I wish he would skydive without a parachute.

Is this him?

R235: Do NOT sully the good name of Bea Arthur with Mrs. Savage and her TERRIBLE fashion choices. I won't have IT!

Terry is our Jackie O.

She's so EDGY!

Terry must be so exhausting to be around.

He could be Andy Cohen's hot mess brother. Or maybe alter ego. Have they ever been seen at the same time?

R266 probably why Dan likes that he has a boyfriend. Lwt someone else deal with his ego

R268: I've always said Tom's a husband sitter so Dan can get shit done.

Terry's tailleur in R265 would fabulous on a 30 something.

R269 LOL That is probably pretty accurate.

Have not been following Savage's exploits. From what I'm reading on this thread it appears he and his husband have taken on a younger guy to be a "thruple"?

As for the husband, that's likely HGH and/or a really strict diet. It's an "I lift weights" body not an "I am an athlete" body, which you do see, naturally, on plenty of guys his age.

The difference is that 90% of those guys are not on IG. Or not showing off on IG, anyway. They may have accounts the way everyone else does, to take photos of pretty sunsets or their kids, wives and dogs and all that.

It takes a high level of narcissism to be that old and doing that shit. It's like the 23 year olds, they think they're going to get discovered and become big time models or actors so you can forgive them.

But this dude knows better.

But he was "discovered" by gays, and has become a gay "circuit" celebrity, for a certain crowd, and gets plenty of endorsement offers, so I guess his mid life narcissism flip-out has worked.

R272 Dan's relationship to the 20 something boytoy seems unclear. He apparently lives with them but doesn't really ever mention Dan on social media, but Terry and Tom are always expressing their love for each other online. I think it's not a throuple, but Dan's husband got himself a boyfriend. He refers to Tom as his boyfriend but Dan never does.

Terry and Tom have been boyfriends for a couple years now. Even have matching tattoos. Funnily enough, Dan feels like the third wheel now.

Dan beefed up a lot and seems to take an interest in staying fuckable. So who has HE been fucking the last years while Terry fucks Tom?

R276 rando pornstars and gogo boys that recognize him as a gay celebrity? or Jake Shears?

[quote]But this dude knows better.

?????

Changing times, R272. We older guys are not going out the way that many of our fathers did. We want to live life to its fullest to the very last second. That would include remaining fit and having sex. There are at least a few threads on her about buff seniors, etc. Are some going overboard? Maybe.

Kill it with fire

Their poor kid. When is it going to come out as trans?

I think it's weird that Dan's entire brand is confessional personal stories. About his Marriage and his family. About being monogamous. And then about not. And about being monogamish. Urging poly people to talk about multiple partners to lessen the stigma. And railing about monogamy being a harmful expectation. But he has been completely silent about his personal life in the last two years. He doesn't mention his husband has a boyfriend. Or that they are a throuple, or not. He doesn't talk about how they let their son know that Daddy's new boyfriend was moving in with them. It's just super weird. Why be quiet now?

Your own lack of respect for the son. It? Really? And what would make him trans? Just dumb on your part.

The kid coming out as trans is the only way it can get more attention than his slut parents, idiot.

Obviously the son wants no attention because we know nothing about him and he has no public profile.

R283 Have you seen what his dad wears in public and online? I think there's probably a reason he has never been photographed with them in public as an adult. Pretty sure it's comfortable staying away from the attention. He is in his early 20s in living at home with all of them. But he's never in any Instagram photos etc

After all the attention and fanfare, Dan and Terry are exposed as two basic narcissists who adopted an innocent kid and pulled him into their failed social experiment. I actually feel for the kid. But at this point, it's more than likely the kid grew up to be a budding narcissist himself. What a fucked up household.

Is it true that bodybuilders eat sugary things before a competition because sugar makes their veins pop out more?

R286 They (especially Terry) have become laughable in their middle ages, with the sudden muscle gain and the Narcissistic ego trip and exhibitionism. Also, Terry's thin skin and self importance is funny. but they seem like they were good dads in their kid's formative years

"...they seem like they were good dads in their kid's formative years"

Okay. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt there.

[quote][R286] They (especially Terry) have become laughable in their middle ages

Laughable? Terry still gets paid bookings. It even looks as if they are increasing. Dan is still booked pretty much everywhere. They're constant conversation here on DL. If anyone is laughing I'd say that they were. They're laughing all the way to the bank.

R290 That's "Sure, Jan" worthy

That's what makes it especially sad. With all that success, they both seem sad and desperate.

I find Dan Savage to be snotty and judgemental anyway. He has said that gay males that are NOT attracted to effeminate gay males are MISOGYNISTIC.

R196 : This is how you dress for an office if you have skills to pay the bills and aren't geriatric.

The constant need for validation is exhausting. And sad.

I feel like Dan has lost a lot of his magic. He was legit a superstar in the gay world. But his reactions and work over the last several years have been off. He is no longer shocking and his insight into gay life seems less on point than it used to be.

[quote]The constant need for validation is exhausting. And sad.

Alas,,, everyone wants to feel loved and be desired...

R297 I guess some of us just try to find that closer to home than a public instagram thirst campaign

Dan Savage's own narcissism is displayed by his insistence on a career in public speaking without ever bothering to go to a speech pathologist to fix his lisp/speech impediment! It's really hard for me to listen to him.

Barbara Walters and Rudy Giuliani are two other monsters with noticeable speech impediments who must feel too brilliant and special to work at getting rid of their AWFUL vocal production!

I wesent your wepulsive wefewence to my disabiwity, w299! What a wetched wevolting wesponse!

Child Protective Services will hopefully take the son away. No child should be subjected to that narcissism and neglect. I always thought when you had a kid that they became the center of your world. I didn’t realize they were “parents” but that’s truly disturbing, and I’m a gay man with a general disdain for little kids.

Their son is in his 20s

Oh I didn’t know the son was that old. I wonder if he’s embarrassed by Dan and Terry.

when their son was young Terry looked completely different, he wasn't working out all the time and they were in a monogamous relationship. Terry didn't want to be photographed or talked about a lot by Dan. As soon as their son became a teenager Terry went through some kind of midlife crisis and start living like a 20-year-old. He started working out nonstop. They became open sexually. They started getting into BDSM. Terry started posting photos of him in their attic with porn stars on to Tumblr. And he started modeling and becoming an Instagram ho. Then they started dating 20 year olds

Gross, he's gone way past looking good into freakish. Classic body dismorphia. Husband needs to sit him down and have an intervention.

R304 they were never in a monogous relationship, and Dan's always been kind of domineering, so maybe it's Terry coming into his own. Dan was in his early 30s and Terry only 23 when they met and instantly became a couple. Dan writes in his book(s) of telling him early on that he planned to adopt a baby in a year or two so Terry better get on board or get out, and how he pressured Terry to make their relationship open early on -- even though it made Terry sad.

Dan also wrote about how his friends disrespected Terry and gossiped about him being a golddigger. Gorgeous Terry, finally fed up, said, "Dan. If I were a golddigger, you'd need a lot more gold."

R306, coming into his own? It's a classic midlife crisis. Terry was, for all intents and purposes, a housewife and stay at home dad. The kid grew up and Terry turned into an instaho with body issues and a boytoy his kid's age.

I have a friend who has a stepmother younger than us (her dad manufactures airplane parts so $$$$$ and this is wife #4). It's awkward as fuck between them. DJ must be so happy his dad is shacked up with someone his age.

R306 maybe he is lying, but Dan said they were monogamous the first 10 or so years. then just a handfull of threesomes. then monogamish. then full on open. and now poly

Terry was such an iconic 90s boy, PNW style. Gorgeous beautiful guy. Still super young looking in his early 40s. Maybe at that point he decided muscled & polished would ultimately age better than his lifelong granola look? Cute guy nonetheless

Beautiful man

R309 i thought he was super hot until about 5 years ago

Gotta scroll down, but drop dead adorable pre-muscle little-seen Terry pic here. He's always been absolutely stunning.

R312 very hot there!

uh oh. did something happen? Terry's boy just put his instagram on private

Maybe Terry replaced him with a younger dumber model.

Well, Terry IS a model, r272.

Still.

Wow! He really ruined himself with the steroids! He was passable as cute before, now he’s a monster. Maybe he’ll die soon.....that heart could give out on a strenuous work out or steroid binge.

R285: Go back 2 years on Instagram and one does slip through. He still lives at home, the only requirement according to Dan is that DJ HAS to vote while he lives with his parents still.

I’d do the son any day!! But the dads are just gross now.

Dan writing another pro-poly piece where he tells people to "come out" as poly. But he's not doing it himself. Not talking about his husbands long term partner

R320 - He's trying so hard to stay relevant. Do most Millennials see Savage as a dinosaur now?

Dan is 54. He would stay relevant to young people (not Millennials - who are not young) by being their college professor (and good at it) or by having a big fat dick and being a daddy to fuck them.

Terry is beautiful, I wish he lived in my neighborhood.

Seriously, the man puts in the work to look like a damn God and does it with humor and spirit.

I remember Dan and Terry from the Center meetings and they look better as they age.

R323 Center meetings?

center of The Attic?

Dan is starting to approach his creepy husband's level of tediousness.

I don't have a problem with his age, however his style in exhibitionism may be a litttle distateful... If he worked on it he could make more easy on the eye.

Headed to the opera with a T friend

If that couple walked into the Grand Tier I would never go back to the MET. It would be the last straw, destroying any lingering class to the whole fragile affair.

When you see bodybuilders showing off or drawing attention towards their crotches they make it in a way that makes them look empowered; they lead and we drool over their masculine figure. This man does the opposite, he looks a little desperate for attention; he gives away too much and puts his crotch anywhere he is. He loses power that way.

good news, boys. he will be at IML next weekend! If you want to hook up with the most uninterested throuple ever then you know where to be.

At least we don't have to weep for the future... this guy is more representative of the past....

Well, that's not leather but.... He's got balls rocking that!

he is on brand this weekend

Humorless Dan and the walking piece of aged out beef jerky he shares his 401k with. Tragic cautionary tale.

I recognize that tattoo

At this point, I recognize that flaccid cock

getting milked

That Kyle Brandon dude is twisted as fuck so on top of being a pretentious asshole Terry is into some weird shit!

Terry's version of leather always takes place in a setting as sterile as a hospital theater.

I imagine if one of his "bois" got a spot of cum on his leathers he'd freak out.

Looks like he's having fun at IML

Part 2 of the video

Let's be the milking session.

I am the Ibiza Del Mar lounge mix.

I don't care how sex-positive they raised their son to be knowing there's a video online of his dad being tied up and machine milked (and who knows what else) by an S&M psycho must be humiliating for him.

Aaaand this is why I always refer to that shop as “Mrs. Leather.”

How long till the Onlyfans/JustForFans cameos or even her own personal porn fan site endorsed by her husband?

I noticed Dan isn't at IML. In the past Dan wrote about them always going together and it being a big part of Dan's sense of community. Or something like that.

Hanging with pornstars

Porn slag describes both of those plastic trash bags now R348

R348 - Which one is the porn star?

The milking machine seems 1 malfunction too close to castration.

That may be another kink for that freakshow Kyle Brandon R351 I just hope someone let Terry know...not really.

R350 After seeing the milking video, I'd say they both are.

Previously unreleased security footage of Mrs. Dan at IML.

Is that actually Terry hooked up to the milking machine?

R355 Yes. His tattoos are visible. Also he liked the tweets from his personal Twitter account

I'm no prude, but this is a bit unseemly.

Terry seems to be the poster boy for unseemly these days R357.

What's he gonna post next? A proctology exam?

I have read DL for years (it started with a Kay Lenz thread) This Dan Savage Terry Miller saga has put me over the edge. My gay brothers, why do feel the need…they love each other, have a son, are open books, loud and proud. Look at your cattiness, trumps rednecks aren't killing America, it's your privileged judgementalness that has killed America, gay pron, done with DL

judgementalness?

I am simply concerned for his fat dick in a cow milking apparatus. I mean, really. Safe?

Terry jumped the shark.

I proudly voted for Donald Trump and adore these guys. Would I live like them? No way.

Do I think they are campy and cool? Hell yeah!

campy and cool?

You sound "special" R364

r360, WWKLD?

What Would Kay Lenz Do?

I love Terry and his get -ups.

Again, not my lifestyle, but so what.

I like looking at them.

Speaking of grossly depraved behavior, R364...

I know that Terry was bullied when young, as was I, and I think his spirit resonates with me.

Question : why doesn't our bullying ever end? It seems as if we are permanently targeted.

R370. I think more of the hate comments come from triggered women who can’t shut the fuck up. They come on DL, comment on everything gay and how disgusting and perverted we are. They are obsessed with Dan and Terry.

Really, if you’re a gay man with issues over Dan or Terry, you’re probably pathetic enough to make up threads about your tiresome family or why can’t you sell your awful second hand furniture at top dollar.

Jesus Christ, stop being tedious old queens.

Terry just put a pic of Tom on his instagram stories and called him his "super cute boyfriend" I guess they are out of the poly closet now? they are officially a throuple

R372 they've been less closeted than Clay Aiken

They are both phony, vain, and gross. I once met them both at a book signing for their "It Gets Better" book that my friend wrangled me into going to. They both struck me as insincere and elitists. This same friend once ran into Dan in Seattle at a shop and told him she was a fan of his column/podcast, and he was a complete asshole to her.

Terry's escalating hunger for attention and sexual stimulation is eventually going to annoy Dan and/or draw enough unwanted attention that he'll bail.

R375 Oh no, Dan lives for this stuff. He is a kingster and a sex columnist after all. He's just also an introvert and prefers to do it from the sideline. But he gets off on all of Terry's antics and porn and hooking up with other people. I don't think Dan is dating Terry's new boyfriend as well, I think he just loves that his husband has a boyfriend.

there were a bunch of photos from Folsom years ago with Terry dressed in leather Daddy drag and walking two subs around. One of them was a young guy the two of them were fucking at the time, their short term boyfriend. And the other one was a guy in complete rubber gimp suit including mask but he was the exact same height and weight and body type is Dan. I'm pretty sure Dan was being led around in a gimp suit. He's not this innocent straightlaced guy that this thread is making him out to be. He was in a couple of the hard-core bondage group sex attic for men pictures too

Dan enjoys being the main attention whore R376 if Terry starts to get too much attention Dan will start to resent the sideshow attraction stepping in the ring master's spotlight.

This is how two narcissists conduct a relationship.

It must be exhausting.

R376: Husband sitter, folks. Husband sitter. Get your husband one today!

I think the worst thing Dan ever did was to stigmatize PrEP when it was first being rolled out. He said you would have to be an idiot to take it. It is upsetting that a young gay men probably heard him say that and then decided against taking PrEP. And then Terry posts the photo below a year or so ago. What happened? Not idiots anymore? And Dan has never really atoned for that terrible, terrible advice. And he's a sex columnist? He sames like a judgmental asshole obsessed with money.

Let's face it Terry is most likely a cumdump for his porn star buddies a few of which are openly poz so PrEP may be a necessity in his case.

I still think R177 has the most under-rated comment/photo on this thread...

[quote]When I think "leather daddy," I think "Bea Arthur goes to International Male"

Then you'll love today's photo entry, r383.

Why does that outfit seem somehow offensive?

Terry looks FUNin his mid-life crisis sex gear. His dress-up outfits for the opera and red-carpet are equally tacky as the fetish wear but, unfortunately, all pathetic and not fun. He looks like the aging queen one would avoid at such events.

R384 - Did they finally put him in a padded cell?

Terry doing his part to celebrate the progress the gay community has made and is continuing to make.

What he’s doing is a middle age gay syndrome. I have a friend who has abandoned a lot of activities to spend endless time working out and posting up to 5 shots a day on Instagram where he has a considerable following. I suspect he is using androgenic aides as well. My arm chair analysis is that it’s an obsession and denial mechanism akin to the basics of substance abuse. He and those who support and enable him seem to think he’s some kind of role model and looks great. I think he’s in trouble.

Is your friend's name Jake, R389, and is he a doctor?

r389 it happens because they (Jake and Terry) weren't able to be the objects of desire whores back in their 20s because they were too busy staying in the closet and being nerdy.

Now that they have muscles and some validation from followers, they're acting out

One is too short or the other is too tall.

Terry is seeking a validation that will never fulfill him. He’s a sad, lonely, unhappy wretch and this will end in tears. (but also laughter and joy for many of us!) My prediction is suicide within 3 years. I’ve seen a couple of people in my circle go through this, and one left the car running in a closed garage, and the other ODd on pills. Terry is such a sad pathetic representation of an aging gay man.