Lee Daniels creating Gay Superhero movie

We already have one

Kick Ass

Good for him. If you want to see a certain type of character in movies, don't wait for others to do it or complain when they don't.

I applaud him for this.

Nobody will watch it unless it is about lesbians.

Super Bitch

Gaysploitation

"Its not my next one, but it's in the pipeline"

We have all heard that story in the entertainment industry, wake me when it is actually under production.

Lee Daniels isn't the guy to make an action flick.

Agree R8. Based on the three films of his I've seen, he's a crappy director.

People would definitely watch a gay superhero if they are kick-ass and masculine. No one will watch a femme gay as superhero, it's ridiculous sorry. Look at Super Drags from  Netflix, it was cancelled after one season.

He has to be quick, because Disney already has a Hulkling and Wiccan on the pipeline as well, though most people aren't aware of that.

Why reinforce stereotypes?

Think about your comment r10. "This can only be made if the gay hero is indistinguishable from a straight hero, if he is at all noticeably gay it is trash"

“Noticeably gay?” He can be noticeably gay regarding his same-sex mannerisms. No need to make him some stereotype in mannerisms.

You could have a great one.

Constantine from the eponymous show and now Legends of Tomorrow is bi, but had a gay storyline.

And, Matt Ryan is handsome with no stereotypical mannerisms.

R12 and R13 are homophobes. They think masculinity is exclusive to heterosexuals.

I've never said the character needs to be indistinguishable to straights, but that they need to be masculine. Maybe you don't know many, but most gay guys I hang out with are masculine.

No one will believe an effeminate and delicate man is a kick-ass superhero, even if said man were straight. People will believe that a masculine and strong man can kick ass, simple. His being gay should be a detail. That was my point. Hulkling and Wiccan are successful as Young Avengers because of these characteristics.

The videos posted upthread shows this. Even the actor calls it comedy, because that's all this will ever be.

I meant: e can be noticeably gay regarding his same-sex love interests. No need to make him some stereotype in mannerisms.

[Quote][R12] and [R13] are homophobes. They think masculinity is exclusive to heterosexuals.

Snort, what bullshit. Obviously some gay guys are masculine, but a lot are not super masculine. There is nothing wrong with that, and your insistence that they couldn't be heroes is pathetic.

Your need to desperstely worship at the altar of masculinity is sad.

R9, agree. He’s a horrible director. Great dresser though. I saw a premiere of his at Sundance, and he was wearing a great outfit. He should switch to fashion design.

R17 Get a clue, Gertrude! It's not our fault you're a prissy effeminate gay man. Stop hating on people just because they behave the way you wish you did, but can't. You were bullied at school, we get it. Get a therapist already. You must be one of those whiny queens complaining about masc-to-masc ads, while secretly only messaging the masculine dudes for sex. I know you're type. Go get yourself your daily manipedi and fuck off.

NO ONE will buy a wimpy effeminate guy, gay or straight, kicking ass, the end.

Yep, there is certainly a big queen here r19.

The thing is if it’s a fem guy, audiences will only view him a joke. Society doesn’t view fem males as heroic or kick ass.

Just like he was going to create a gay action hero film with Alex Pettyfer?

Marvel’s X-Men have confirmed Iceman & Pyro are gay, and they may certainly return in upcoming movies in the Universe. So.

[quote] The thing is if it’s a fem guy, audiences will only view him a joke. Society doesn’t view fem males as heroic or kick ass.

That's because they're not. It's not offensive or derogatory to state the truth. If fem men (gay or straight, as there are effeminate heterosexuals) could kick ass they wouldn't grow up scarred and suffering from mental health issues, they'd have solved it by kicking the ass of the ones bullying them. Isn't it obvious? I know people will say because of my previous comment that I'm a bully, but I have defended femme guys from bullying during high school and would do it again if I had the chance.

Reality won't change, though. If fem guys begin standing up for themselves and beating the crap of bullies, then you'll have your superhero film.

You do like hearing yourself talk don't you.

Exactly r24, this movie has been talked about for years. Why I will believe it when I see it.

Marvel keeps chugging along, and I think eventually we will see Wiccan and Hulkling. It took them like 20 movies to make one starring a girls these things move slow.

It would have to be a comedy if that guy is cast

[quote]Marvel’s X-Men have confirmed Iceman & Pyro are gay, and they may certainly return in upcoming movies in the Universe. So.

The problem with that is the retconning required.

For good, bad, or indifferent, Daniels would be creating a character that was gay from inception, not re-writing previously established characters and ignoring past stories.

Good mindset r3

R27 I take your point, but to render Iceman and/or Pyro gay today it’s less retcon and more ‘reset/reboot to factory settings’.

Pyro was conceived as a coded/glass-closeted gay mutant from inception back in the early ‘80s, and this only got let behind because of the AIDS crisis and because he was a lesser mook character to start with; likely considered beneath the notice of writing staff kept changing so fast that continuity became a dirty word.

As for Iceman, he’s had like three ‘coming Out’ stories seeded since the early ‘90s. Jean told him to his face that he’s gay.

People just forget (or are encouraged to) certain inconvenient ‘details’ about popular characters that might make them a threat.

Deadpool is bi.

R4 Wonder Woman is a lesbian??

Wasn’t Kick-ass gay?

After watching Professor Marston and the Wonder Women, about the creator of Wonder Woman one can only read Wonder woman as bisexual and with a huge lesbian vibe to it.

The concept of wonder woman is an island of warrior women who completely hid themselves away from any penises. It's pretty fucking gay.

Not a movie but there's a Batwoman series supposed to come out this year.

[quote]People just forget (or are encouraged to) certain inconvenient ‘details’ about popular characters that might make them a threat.

r29 - I agree. Characters like Constantine have had much of their own backstories ignored to make them more palatable to a wider audience.

Even Deadpool, who is supposed to be "pansexual" or whatever, makes jokes, but doesn't actually engage in non-heterosexual action.

R35 yeah starring Ruby Rose.....on the CW.

That Hari Nef creatures looks like a boy with a wig. Gamestop she-hulk before the radiation.

[quote] Deadpool, who is supposed to be "pansexual" or whatever, makes jokes, but doesn't actually engage in non-heterosexual action.

Word. To a certain extent this is true of Gamit (Marvel’s X-MEN) more often than not. Occasionally he gets a writer who’ll give him a flirtatious or suggestive relationship with a male, but the quotidian is all “Ma cheré“ all the time.

Already been done and better than Daniels would do it.

Lee Daniels is a horrible director, on par with Sister Tyler Perry. He's been talking about doing some gay themed action/superhero film for years, but I doubt it will see the light of day.

I don’t want a stereotypical superhero

We don't need a stereotypical hero.

We don't need to know the way home.

R10 they'd watch a femme gay superhero but only if it was a comedy starring a drag queen; maybe Laganja Estranja with her earth-shattering death drops, Valentina because her homicidal fangirls would riot, anti-hero Sharon Needles, or Willam pursuing a drug cartel that murders her fellow prostitutes.

No more stereotypes.

At the end of a 12-minute conversation at the Time 100 Summit that glided past the most conspicuous issue in his career — the fate of Empire in the wake of the Jussie Smollett case — Lee Daniels offered a few new details about Superbitch.

That memorably titled project is also known as the Daniels-shepherded gay superhero movie. He announced it in January in an Instagram post that featured the film’s progenitor, a performer who posts videos on the social network. He said he will produce and put several million dollars into the modest-budgeted film, but will not direct, scouting instead for an up-and-comer to step behind the camera.

After moderator Van Jones of CNN asked in the waning seconds of the conversation if the “rumor” about the project are true, Daniels exclaimed, “It’s true!” He elaborated, “It’s called Superbitch. I found him on Instagram of all places. He does backflips and he has a cape and he does karate and, oh my God, he’s going to be a hero!”

While “I’m not putting that much money behind it,” Daniels noted, “a couple million dollars for a gay superhero movie is pretty f–king exciting!”

Jones replied, “With a name like Superbitch, you ain’t gotta promote it.”

After Jones offered a laudatory introduction, he and Daniels spent the bulk of the session recalling the oft-told tales of how Daniels has bucked convention at every turn. “I was disruptive at birth,” Daniels said. As he sought to get his career on track, he looked for financing sources wherever he could find them. “Some of it was drug money,” he shrugged. “You do what you do.”

He can fight

I can see it now

That’s hot

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