Americans getting shorter and fatter

The shortness is could be attributed to a more diverse population.

The fatness is mostly from women, who have exploded and are getting much fatter than men much faster than men. Especially now that the stigma is gone.

Fuck off you envious traitor. Always throwing Americans under the bus because you resent your station in life. So tired of you.

Bullshit, R1.

[quote]women, who have exploded

I would think their weight would be the least of their worries.

I'm 5'8, and the other day I walked past a bus stop in Queens, where about 30 people were waiting in line. I was taller than virtually all of them.

Obviously

Blame White Supper. Friends of my kids are allowed to have a diet that consists mostly of rice and cheese, or butter and pasta, or tater tots and ketchup.

If you mostly eat white rice, pasta, and potatoes, you will get shorter and fatter adults.

It's a big old world.

If people are getting shorter on average, you wouldn't notice it by saying you "tower over" people today, when you didn't 10 years ago. The grown adults who were alive 10 years ago are not suddenly shorter today. That's not how this works, OP.

Height doesn't matter. But obesity does. And its putting huge strain on US healthcare. Do you want to know one reason why the US can't have single payer healthcare? Because Americans are too fat, and when a healthcare professional dares suggest to a fat women that they lose weight they declare them guilty of "harassment".

R1 and R10 are determined to turn this into another "women are fat pigs who have destroyed the world" thread.

We've had thousands of those threads already. Care to stay on topic for once, or is this something you just can't help yourself on?

That is on topic, R11.

[quote] The shortness is could be attributed to a more diverse population.

True, but the US has been getting shorter since the Civil War. Height matters because it's a proxy for health--taller people tend to live longer

OK back to the topic

Women are getting absolutely HUGE!

I wasn't criticizing diversity or shortness! Just remarking. I love both.

White teenage girls -- I swear every single one I see these days is obese. They must be the fastest growing (pun intended) demographic.

R1 American men: 38% are obese; American women 41.5% are obese

The average weight of American men in 2015-16 was 197.9 pounds; for women, it was 170.6 pounds.

I'm not seeing any sources for the percentages repliers are posting. I went to the CDC > Obesity & Overweight > Adult Obesity Facts > Data, Trends and Maps and see bar charts for race and age but not sex for percentages and statistics.

It does matter: Public health officials can tell men to lose weight. No problem. When they tell women to lose weight. It's "fat-shaming."

And to reduce obesity in the US people will have to be told they are fat and that's not okay.

R19 Just scroll over the world map in R8's link; M/F stats,

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I read the topic title as "Americans getting shorter and fatter," which is why I supplied the CDC Obesity and Overweight URL. I did not know this was meant to be a "let's dump on fat women and post global URLs" thread. I'll bow my height-weight-proportionate self out and let you dish and extrapolate from small population samples.

I don't get the middle aged part, but men like shorter women generally. My brother in law is 6'2, my sister is barely 5'0. Their son is about 5'8-5'9.

As far obesity, that is a huge problem. I saw a teenaged girl the other day and she must have weighed 250. This was in Brooklyn too, so it's just in middle America.

The threads are mostly global, but other things matter too.

The idiot going on about women and fat shaming needs to get off this thread and stay off. It's obvious you're just taking misogynistic pot shots. If anything, women are scruinized far more than men for being overweight. We see it in fashion and dating all the time. How many times have they arrested some guy for murdering his wife, and in his complaints about her, he says he was no longer attracted to her because she gained weight.

This is basically what the average American white woman looks like.

Fat-shaming is good.

Duh, the influx of latinos and asians has lowered USA's average height stats.

So what, who cares?

No one cares about height.

But obesity is a national crisis.

In my neck of the woods (NYC), blacks and latinos seem to be more obese than white people. Whenever I take the subway, if an available seat looks too tight because of someone obese sitting next to it, it's more often than not a black person.

That's NYC, where white people are wealthy Clinton voters and PoC their cheap labor -- the Whole Foods set.

Out in Middle America -- the Walmart set -- it's different.

Three hundred pound white women with three obese children orbiting around her is common.

I can almsot smell her from here.

Our bodies know an Ice Age is upon us and is preparing us for survival.

OP = Oleg

I blame Amy Schumer who tries to make fat acceptable.

Americans need to sue the food industry for making them fat.

At some point American women will have to take responsibility for themselves.

Not saying overeating and lack of excercise is not a big problem for either sex, but many women gain weight during and after pregnancy; menopause can be a bitch too. In contrast, during their early years, women tend to obsess over calories. What excuse do men have?

[quote] but many women gain weight during and after pregnancy

Birth rates are lower than ever and obesity rates are higher than ever.

[quote]In contrast, during their early years, women tend to obsess over calories.

Not anymore. Go to any college. Women are huge now.

[quote]What excuse do men have?

Men can have periods, too. So if they can have periods, then they can have menopause.

Don't you dare fatshame me!

I get why being fatter is sadly on the increase but why are there less tall men?

There aren't. America is more diverse. More Asian and Hispanic Americans means a lower average.

No, the US has been diverse for quite some time, but the average height is trending down. Some of it is due to the types of antibiotics and steriods we inject into our livestock.

could you elaborate a little please r45 ?

[quote]No, the US has been diverse for quite some time

No, prior to the 1965 Immigration Act the US was basically 90% white / 10% black. Since then, America is getting increasingly diverse. With every passing second it is more diverse.

It's not static.

1965 - 2018 encompasses many generations. That's a considerable amount of time.

Here:

R27 wishful thinking

Yet another using anonymous strangers on the internet venting session for resenting the world for being born of color.

Try seeing yourself and others as individuals and get on some OCD meds already!

[quote]Americans getting shorter and fatter

On DataLounge, that's a crisis!

When I visited the US a few years back, I did notice many short, stout people waddleing around. It was disgusting.

I cannot get over how FUCKING FAT young people are today, on average, especially the girls. In my high school in the 1990s, we only had about four or five kids who were truly fat. Today you see fat kids everywhere. The girls in particular are fucking whales.

It's amazing how the media continues to act as though every teenage girl has an eating disorder when the opposite is true. Too bad. It would be better if they all did. Instead, every single one seems to be unrepentantly obese.

Not everyone looks or thinks like you do.

No, R55, the average American is increasingly looking like Chrissy Metz.

In my town in MA, I feel thin at 190lbs and 5ft9. The adults and especially children here are HUGE. It’s only when I visit cities that I feel like a fat cow. The food supply in America is disgustingly unregulated.

[quote]Some of it is due to the types of antibiotics and steriods we inject into our livestock.

Link please.

OP's rationale😂

Don't you dare criticize my weight!

My body is off-limits!

Is diabetes pills covered by Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid?

You know how the very elderly are so shrunken down and fragile-looking? I read that men can lose up to 2" of height between age 40-60 because of skeletal shrinkage and compression. Apart from the influx of short Latin Americans and Asians, it might also make sense that North American men and women with poor diets and a lot of extra weight are losing more of their height as their brittle bones struggle to hold their large frames upright.

I'm glad I spent most of my childhood malnourished due to poverty; it's so hard for me to put on weight because of that😍

Here in Europe the average for under 40s is 6 feet tall

How much of the stastical change is down to Megham MooCain? If she left the country would that alter statistics?

Come off it! On DL, gay men don’t give a damn about the women’s obesity health crisis. It’s about aesthetics.

^Obviously. The ugliness of obesity is nature's way of telling us "this is bad", r65. We're all shallow creatures.

R65.

Paying for the healthcare of people that are too fat to work should be something everyone cares about.

How many rich men do you know with fat wives?

Lots, R68.

Men marry for love.

Women marry for money.

R69 lives on disability

[quote]^Obviously. The ugliness of obesity is nature's way of telling us "this is bad", [R65]. We're all shallow creatures.

Straight men are often looking for curvy women because it's a sign of fertility. They like them big through the hips, roomy.

Ta.

Curvy =/= r72.

Marilyn Monroe was curvy.

R71, your comment is classist.

The average American woman now weighs over 171lbs.

Is that curvy?

*curvy =/= obesity

If she's tall it is r75.

Explain in more detail r69

What's to explain. Plenty of men who could trade in their wives for a slimmer model don't.

If she's 6'4', R77. Is she?

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The lady ^^^ needs to lay off the carbs and sugar.

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A few decades ago, Fatties like the one above wouldn’t dare to wear a two piece. Fat sows, the lot of them!

R84 Shut up

So Pierce is a homosexual and the porker is the beard!

OP, besides shorter and fatter, you could've included "Louder".

The average US man weighs in the 190s. Most men still look good in that weight range. Most women do not look good in the 170s.

R18

Where I live, it looks like the average weight is about 280lb for men and 240lb for women.

It seems like anything under 200lbs is becoming the exception rather than the rule.

It's depressing seeing the health issues a lot of these people are developing because of this this.

Tall people go to college and get professional jobs. Short people work in 'manufacturing' and other low-paying, low-prestige jobs.

Disagree about the shortness, I'm 5'6 and usually the shortest one but completely agree about the fatness.

It seems that the contention is that individual people are getting shorter. That has always naturally happend with age, to an extent, but aside from that, people do not get shorter.

The average height in a population, whose members are changing, may change, sure. That’s a function of diet, gender, and genetics. Maybe we’re getting a lot of female darfor orphans?

Its the food supply. All that genetically modified shit is wreaking havoc on our bodies and in 20 years or less we are going to see the real ramifications . Back in the 60s-70s a fat person was rare.We all ate the same foods from the same stores yet obesity wasnt a problem. Of course the majority of mothers cooked then. Most of my nieces and nephews have grown up eating take out and microwave crap,you couldnt get my sister in laws to cook on a bet. That coupled with lack of movement is a perfect storm of health problems among young people in the coming years.

I don't know about overall height, but it does seem like we're producing more people, male and female, with long bodies and really short legs who are stocky to obese.

That may be why people are looking shorter....

Shortness contributes to obesity statistics. Or haven't seen a BMI chart. If everyone in the country were an inch taller it would reduce obesity by BMI. Standards.

My sister is an academic and she's noticed this trend as well. She's short (5'3"), and told me that people her own age (mid-30s) tower over her, but her students are short.

Frankly, I'm tired of fat privilege: people who live in countries where food is plentiful enough and they can afford to gorge themselves while not having to walk miles for clean water or work in fields and go without meals, as hundreds of millions of people worldwide continue to do. Women who whine about "unrealistic" body images in the media and hector everyone about what "real women" look like and how damaging it is for little girls, yet fail to recognize or notice that they're damaging the self-image of slim young girls who are berated and told how unnatural and terrible they are for not being tubs of lard.

Fatties need to check their privilege.

Where do you live, R89?

R98

Near the MD, DC, VA borders.

Asians are getting taller and thinner. Will they inherit the earth?

R89 - R99. Ha!! I’m originally from the DMV area. Family is largely still there and in the South. I agree. I live in Colorado. I really believe that I would likely be pounds heavier if I lived back there. (Colorado has fat people too. Don’t get me wrong. But overall it’s healthier exercise and foodwise.)

Yes r80, she is.

The same reason we're getting shorter, and it's not just people from other countries moving in, it's all of us, is the same reason we're getting fatter. Poor quality food. Not just the crap fast food, all of it. It's grown in soil that has no nutrients, with chemicals put on it, then a lot of it is processed within an inch of its life. Don't even get started on the meat fish and chicken with the polluted water, the hormones, the bad farming practices, and again, processing. Of course there are other facets to this whole situation, but the abysmal quality of our food is a huge and downplayed issue.

No, R102. She's 5'4'.

My observations. Young guys are taller and heavier. Guys in their early 20's are huge bulky beasts over 6' and pushing over 240. The exception are the IG types that workout but are still huge. Young women the same age are humungous, all pushing well over 200. I work with Hispanic guys when in the field, I tower over them at 6'2", but these guys are in serious shape. My take is white guys and women will continue to get fatter and larger, the newer people coming into the country are shorter but more jacked.

IG types...Inspector Generals?

I love a man with some meat on his bones. Most women look better a little underweight however.

Well most of these young guys today have big dicks. So I guess we will have short fat guys with large appendages

Americans are simply becoming more Latino. They tend to be shorter and chubbier. More Asians are coming over too - they’re also generally shorter.

I don't mind shorter, since I l ike shorties.

The cause of the obesity crisis is soy being used as filler in nearly every single processed American food, from crackers to chicken fingers to salad dressing to orange juice. Soy is an estrogen mimic. If you do not have an estrogen imbalance, you should not be supplementing estrogen. A constant intake of a hormone you don't need is going to cause endocrine disorders and too much estrogen is going to make you fat. The US government pays farmers to grow soy. I remember in the 90s at some point looking at the ingredients on a package of shredded cheese and seeing that fucking sawdust was included and putting the package back. That sawdust and whateverthefuck else has been replaced with soy. American food has about a quarter of the nutrients it should have and the rest are all fucking soy. Go look at the ingredients of any non-raw fruit or vegetable sitting in your kitchen. With China now refusing to import our soy, this problem is going dangerously escalate. It's already exceedingly difficult to avoid soy in American food and drinks and may just become impossible. Pepsi, who owns NAKED juice, was sued for adding unlisted soy as filler to their non-smoothie drinks and they lost, but no one has done retesting to see if they actually stopped and, to my knowledge, no other products are being or have been tested for surreptitious inclusions of soy. I stopped eating anything with soy in it when I got sick from an adverse drug reaction. I developed allergies to all kinds of things and did an extended elimination diet to try to suss out what was causing the most problems. It was soy. As soon as I re-added bread baked with soy in the flour (which is almost all breads made here short of a few genuine sourdoughs), the muscle pain that had been fading resurged horrifically. Add in that almost all of this soy is genetically modified in ways we are not privy to and you can begin to see the scope of the problem.

One thing:

There's been a total acceptance among Democrats in the US of 'fat-shaming' as a worthy concept. And they to be either as complacent or actually supportive of 'BigAgra' and 'BigPharma' as Republicans. There is not one single Dem running for president who would dare say to a fat woman: "Your body looks disgusting. That's not what a human body is supposed to look like." It's nowhere near as bad on the European left. It also part of the reason the US can't have a single-payer system. Can you imagine if a professional in a US NHS told a woman to lose weight. Salon and every Democrat would pile on them. Just as none of them dare address white women's racism (instead of saying only white men are the problem).

So I'm not hopeful of any changes.

Shaming fat people isn't going to make them Lise weight you dumb cunts. They know they're fucking fat. Changing the countries terrible low quality food and people's relationship with it, plus bringing back exercise ( real exercise not gym exercise) is the only way. When was the last time any of you fucks walked anywhere?

Bitchiness as a cure for the obsesity epidemic.

Only Dr Datalounge could come up with that one.

R114

Bam!!

Thank you Dr Datalounge!!

Could you imagine OP somehow intersecting with peeps from Locust Valley, Manhasset & New Canaan? No, you can't because he is an ignorant rube no one envies

R115, you passed out yet? A reply around 3 pm when you get your carcass up off of the floor?

Snooze on

The shame fat people feel. 1000xs worse when I'm hating myself when in procrastination mode. It IS genetic though. Some are born more adaptable. Some just aren't.

Coming to think that not only are fat people lazy & self loathing it is their defense & demonization of anyone who might be out of control with a bad habit.

They're on it. "You could kill someone driving drunk!" You know what though, you fat slovenly whore? Don't need to modify an addiction for life. YOU NEED your addiction (food) to survive, so YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS FUCKED-For life. Quit drink & drugs & we're done. Walking in the Sun. A gift, actually.

R117

I am in Europe, my dear...

It is lunch time!!

We’re a total instant gratification culture- buy yourself into debt, fuck yourself into disease, eat yourself to death. If it doesn’t feel good, we don’t do it. People overeat, some over exercise but we white Americans overdo.

We need to relearn to suffer through pain and boredom and lack, and we just won’t.

I'm in a Southeastern college town. Young adults seem to be several inches taller than a generation ago. A number of college guys in the 6'4 to 6'8 range.

Does anyone else notice that young adult men have more body hair than a generation ago?

What DO you eat then, if soy is in everything and makes you SO sick? You sound like a nut. No different than any other zealot conspiracy theorist.

[quote]Changing the countries terrible low quality food and people's relationship with it, plus bringing back exercise ( real exercise not gym exercise) is the only way.

Can't do that though. Because that would require politicians to admit that being not is not something desirable and aspirational.

TLDR of this article: fat people will never lose the weight so fat shaming is pointless and the only solution is to prevent future generations from adopting bad eating habits and terrible food options.

[quote]the only solution is to prevent future generations from adopting bad eating habits and terrible food options.

Which is done through fat shaming.

The Huffington Post's take on obesity...

FAT CUNTS

R126 where did you get your medical degree you intellectual powerhouse?

[quote][R126] where did you get your medical degree you intellectual powerhouse?

It's not about medicine. It's about societal standards.

America has a HUGE problem with fatties and the UK isn’t far behind. I expect life expectancies to drop like a rock. Carbs and sugar baby!

[quote] TLDR of this article: fat people will never lose the weight so fat shaming is pointless

Not true. Shame has played a big part in the reduction in smoking.

Fat teenage girls should be lined up and mocked.

It's for the best, though fish wouldn't like it.

Shortness = latins and Asians.

Fatness = Our American soul is empty. We have nothing but consumption. Hardly surprising we overeat.

Retards.

[quote]"Fat-Shaming, not overeating, made me fat" -- Salon

It takes a while to get really fat so no sympathy from me. It’s not like they fell down and gained 600lbs instantly.

I was going to ask how the hell we’re getting shorter but then R134 cleared everything up for me.

This thread is literal violence!

Lindy West used to be at a much more reasonable weight.

Why is a gay man worried about how fat women are?

Why is a fish trying to police gay men's language on DL without being FF'd?

Hmm, doesn't make sense. Americans eat fuck tons of carbs. Glucose elevates IGF1 which increases body width (fatness) as well as height (during the growth phase). This why you see these giant linebacker physiques in the US.

[quote]Shame has played a big part in the reduction in smoking.

The skyrocketing prices of cigarettes had a lot to do with it.

Barring a health crisis or drug use, don't most people end up bring built like their same gendered parent?

[quote]Young guys are taller and heavier.

No, they're just heavier.

I can only speak for my family, but. Both my parents were quite short. I’m average height for a woman (5’6”) AND I’m thin). My two older daughters are all taller than me - 5’8”. Husband is 5’10”

I'm a short, fat slut.

Glad the straight fish at r147 could weigh in on a gay men’s board.

Your input is greatly appreciated.

Fat people like to tell me they are jealous because they think I can eat anything I want and stay in shape. I don’t know where they get that assumption. Just because I’m eating pizza or donuts in the office occasionally doesn’t mean I’m pigging out everyday, I’m also not sitting on my ass at home after work. I work at being in shape. It’s not lucky ‘genes.’ I’m tired of fatties telling me to gain weight.

R149, is being short and fat an exclusively GAY topic? The title of the thread didn’t indicate it was anything other than a general discussion. So hissy.

We don’t want you here. You’re not welcome and your opinions don’t matter, whatever the topic is.

Cunt.

Look at Ms. Thing R150. Shut your skinny ass up.

Growing up skinny and male made me wish to be "normal". Now I wish I could be thin again.

I’m a short, fat....slut

"I’m average height for a woman (5’6”) "

R147 5'6" isn't average height for a woman in the U.S., 5'4" is.

[quote]The skyrocketing prices of cigarettes had a lot to do with it.

They're only able to raise the price because an increasingly large majority of Americans think it should be raised.

Just try to make all junk food prohibitively expensive. That'll be the only time fatties ever get up and protest.

Are white Americans getting shorter?

Yes.

I love thicc men.

R159 Thanks, so, explaining the decline in height with immigration by other ethnicities does not hold water.

Maybe childhood obesity is causing kids to be shorter? Putting on a lot of extra weight before you've finished growing vertically might keep you from reaching your full height potential(?).

My DH loves a little extra something to hang onto!

R163, we’re talking about body weight and height, not your tiny meat.